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v5.2 released

by normis » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:49 am


What's new in 5.2 (2011-Apr-26 16:09):

*) fixed webfig;
*) console - fixed problem with supout file generation and export that
appeared in version 5.1, it was causing console to enter busy loop
on some boards;
*) ssh client - added source address and remote command options;
*) user manager - added /tool usermanager profile;
*) route - fixed problem with missing connected routes;

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Re: v5.2 released

by babbage » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:26 pm

Hello
Plz explain more about:
"*) route - fixed problem with missing connected routes;"

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Re: v5.2 released

by normis » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:28 pm

babbage wrote:Hello
Plz explain more about:
"*) route - fixed problem with missing connected routes;"


There was a problem, that some connected routes could suddenly disappear. This is fixed.
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Re: v5.2 released

by doush » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:59 pm

babbage wrote:Hello
Plz explain more about:
"*) route - fixed problem with missing connected routes;"


When you disabled an IP address and enabled it, no connected routes were populating in the routing table.

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Re: v5.2 released

by wirelesswaves » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:02 pm

Well after a long chat with my pal Rudy last night, I was somewhat encouraged to give 5.1 a bash.

This morning, it was on MT site, this afternoon, it was replaced by ROS5.2... So biting hard down on a stick I fired it up.

Now please, what is this, some new frequency!!! 2429 Mhz... I hope that is not a pre-amble of what is to come.

Come on MT, I am scared enough to try any further ROS systems since 3.3 and 4.16, give me some confidence back!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: v5.2 released

by napismizpravu » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:07 pm

Does not support Alpha AWPCI085HU miniPCI 500mW (Atheros AR5414, 802.11 a/b/g) in the RouterOS 5.2 RB433UAH. Scan OK, connect log: "failed connect, on 2452, authentication timeout". AP encrypted and unencrypted (R52H connect OK). RouterOS 4.3 works.

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Re: v5.2 released

by dssmiktik » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:19 pm

Mikrotik,

Thanks for the SSH command capability, I've been wanting this for awhile now.

However, like most things in RouterOS, I would like to see the ability to capture the commands output to fully use this feature.
Example:
:local resource [/system ssh address=<router> command="/system resource print as-value"]
<Parse $resource to get remote router's resource>

Oh, and I guess another thing is maybe to have the ability to specify a password at the command line if we choose to. This way we can run SSH commands unattended. This would allow a script to run a command remotely on another router if we choose to.

Anyway, these are the two features I would like to see along with SSH command to be of much use to me.

Thanks.
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Re: v5.2 released

by dssmiktik » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:27 pm

File -> Download does not appear to work on v5.2 Webfig.
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Re: v5.2 released

by ditonet » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:09 pm

RB450G just upgraded to ROS 5.2, strange values in Queue Tree, column PCQ Queues:
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Queues with these values are RED-type not PCQ-type.
On RB433AH everthing is OK.

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Re: v5.2 released

by SQx » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:51 pm

graphs - not working, on RouterBoard 750G v. 5.2

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Traffic and system resource graphing
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Re: v5.2 released

by Basdno » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:59 am

SQx wrote:graphs - not working, on RouterBoard 750G v. 5.2

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Display only:

Traffic and system resource graphing




Did you remember to enable/allow graphs from the IP you checked from? :)

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Re: v5.2 released

by petro25 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:19 am

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Re: v5.2 released

by petro25 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:38 am

Radio problems
Noise-97 sometimes in an operating time from for it interrupts communication
The similar occurs even indoors


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Re: v5.2 released

by janisk » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:34 am

dssmiktik wrote:Mikrotik,

Thanks for the SSH command capability, I've been wanting this for awhile now.

However, like most things in RouterOS, I would like to see the ability to capture the commands output to fully use this feature.
Example:
:local resource [/system ssh address=<router> command="/system resource print as-value"]
<Parse $resource to get remote router's resource>

Oh, and I guess another thing is maybe to have the ability to specify a password at the command line if we choose to. This way we can run SSH commands unattended. This would allow a script to run a command remotely on another router if we choose to.

Anyway, these are the two features I would like to see along with SSH command to be of much use to me.

Thanks.


this is why you can use keys to authenticate from routeros client and it will work in same manner as paswordless key authentication from any other ssh client.
you have to add key to '/user ssh-keys private' private key on local router and '/user ssh-keys' to add public key and off you go.

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Re: v5.2 released

by BobcatGuy » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:16 am

Use caution on upgrade to 5.1 or 5.2, I cannot recall which one did this, BUT*****************************
Somehow through the upgrade process the Virtual AP's did not work, so I removed all of them. Had just he main AP which i called basement AP, whic I clearly recal setting up after the upgrade since I had to disable wireless package so that the 100 %CPU issue didnt come up, which I found to be when additional Virtual AP's are added thag is when the cpu goes to 100% When adding a Virtual AP, the MAC address is 00:00:00:00:00 where before when there was no problem, the MAC would fill in automatically with the MAC of that wireless card.

Save time, if it is all 0's it will set your board to 100% cpu, and all interfaces in list will not show up. ( yes a BUG) still in 5.2 verified, and drove 20 Km's with note book to fix that board again.

But this is NOT why I am pissed.. I had 5.1 running with the main AP set to basement AP, where before I had the main ap and 2 virtual ap's Ie My own Private AP, MainFloorAP and BasementAP.

Needless to say the basment and main were on seperate bridges, and my private ap was on my private bridge, even called PRIVATE. On the upgrade to 5.2 SOMEHOW that only AP that I set up, called basementAP SOMEHOW switched from the bridge I set it to, being Basment bridge, and after the upgrade it was on the Bridge called PRIVATE.....

so, needless to say, that wasnt what I wanted, my tenants roaming my network, which has alot of sensitive data, and has full access to other networks.

MT Fix these issues, how can you put 5.2 as a stable version on the download page if its been released this same day?

Fix the Virtual AP issues.

And for anyone wantign to test it, set up 3 ap's named " AirMatrix-SK " " BasementAP " and "MainFloorAP" put them on theier seperate bridges with 2 or 3 ehter ports, have DHCP on basement ap and main ap, but none on private bridge. is it because the names end with AP? I dont know, but it will put the board, in my case a 493, to 100% and then interfaces will not be listed. To fix, disable the wireless package, reboot, may require a site visit, some times it boots, sometimes it doesnt.

Grrrrrr

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Re: v5.2 released

by janisk » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:33 am

please send supout.rif to the support.

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Re: v5.2 released

by mangust » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:19 pm

RB750, V5.2.

Cant see the stat of the "slave" interfases:
WAN - out interface
LAN - is the Master Port, all other slaves.

Is it Ok ?
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Re: v5.2 released

by kirshteins » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:33 pm

mangust wrote:RB750, V5.2.

Cant see the stat of the "slave" interfases:
WAN - out interface
LAN - is the Master Port, all other slaves.

Is it Ok ?
Yes, switched traffic is not going though the CPU.

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Re: v5.2 released

by wirelesswaves » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:41 pm

Nomis, please make 5.1 available on the web site again, for ROS, X86 and 100 series.. Rudy says its fine, but I wont install 5.2 to anymore clients having seen frequency 2429 appear.. (see above post)

Ps, what is this I read that NV2 doesnt work on X86, I am currently using NV2 on wrap2E, which is X86 based. (it seams to be working OK ( apart from usual dropouts similar to other RB variants))

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Re: v5.2 released

by normis » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:43 pm

wirelesswaves wrote:Nomis, please make 5.1 available on the web site again, for ROS, X86 and 100 series.. Rudy says its fine, but I wont install 5.2 to anymore clients having seen frequency 2429 appear.. (see above post)

Ps, what is this I read that NV2 doesnt work on X86, I am currently using NV2 on wrap2E, which is X86 based. (it seams to be working OK ( apart from usual dropouts similar to other RB variants))


v5.1 contains many problems. v5.2 works fine. I don't know what rudy says.
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Re: v5.2 released

by siprox » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:19 pm

i try ros 5.2 with nv2 protocol this morning on rb433ah, ptp with other rb433 on 5ghz freq, work fine until this night with the same setting before, and unstable on version 5.0 & 5.1, the problem is control frame time out, im happy finally nv2 stable on my machine. tomorrow will try on other machine workk on 2,4ghz freq, hope this stable to. thanks MT.

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Re: v5.2 released

by sobrado » Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:41 pm

wirelesswaves wrote:Nomis, please make 5.1 available on the web site again, for ROS, X86 and 100 series.. Rudy says its fine, but I wont install 5.2 to anymore clients having seen frequency 2429 appear.. (see above post)


RouterOS 5.1 is available on the web site yet:

http://download.mikrotik.com/routeros-mipsle-5.1.npk (RB100 series)
http://download.mikrotik.com/mikrotik-5.1.iso (x86)

However, why do you want to downgrade to this release? Normis is right, there are many important bugs fixed on 5.2. I cannot fully understand your post about the 2429 MHz frequency. Have you sent a supout.rif file to Mikrotik support? Is it related with a frequency shift, right? You have another channel at 2464 MHz, again 2 MHz over the standard channel frequency but said nothing about it. It seems like upper channels are shifted, without more information it may be related even with a faulty wireless adapter.

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$ ifconfig iwi0 chan
iwi0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        lladdr 00:0e:35:a8:7e:79
        priority: 4
        groups: wlan egress
        media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (DS1)
        status: active
        ieee80211: nwid "WaveLAN Network" chan 3 bssid 00:60:1d:f0:07:4c 42dB 100dBm
                chan  freq      properties
                   1  2412 MHz  -
                   2  2417 MHz  -
                   3  2422 MHz  -
                   4  2427 MHz  -
                   5  2432 MHz  -
                   6  2437 MHz  -
                   7  2442 MHz  -
                   8  2447 MHz  -
                   9  2452 MHz  -
                  10  2457 MHz  -
                  11  2462 MHz  -
                  12  2467 MHz  -
                  13  2472 MHz  -
                  14  2484 MHz  -
        inet 156.35.97.196 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 156.35.97.255


My advice is using ROS 5.2 (as Normis suggests) or downgrading to RouterOS 4.17. It makes not a lot of sense moving to a ROS release that is known to have serious bugs. If you were happy with ROS 4.x, then 4.17 is a good choice for you.

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Re: v5.2 released

by ToMikaa87 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:04 pm

5.2 still has the througput issue.

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Re: v5.2 released

by wirelesswaves » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:27 pm

Nomis, and the other respondant.

Because 2429 is not even a valid channel!!! So why is it there!... The card is not that clever, its down to the person that did the coding, and if they have screwed up with channel spacings, then it makes me a little hesitant to go on an upgrade the network.

There have already been many situations where one of my cpe's has successfully logged on to an adjacent channel, some 20dB down on the real carrier frequency, so its a worry now with regards the integral code...

Offset, does not come into the equation, as far as I am concerned there is no reason for the card to report the same SSID on a frequency that is not a valid channel under any circumstances.

Nomis, what is the story relating to NV2 on X86 based products, I obviously missed the notification yet, it appears to be running on a wrap2e, so what goes?

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Re: v5.2 released

by petro25 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:47 pm

Noise-97 sometimes in an operating time from for it interrupts communication
After reboot noise level-116

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Re: v5.2 released

by babbage » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:51 pm

normis wrote:
wirelesswaves wrote:Nomis, please make 5.1 available on the web site again, for ROS, X86 and 100 series.. Rudy says its fine, but I wont install 5.2 to anymore clients having seen frequency 2429 appear.. (see above post)

Ps, what is this I read that NV2 doesnt work on X86, I am currently using NV2 on wrap2E, which is X86 based. (it seams to be working OK ( apart from usual dropouts similar to other RB variants))


v5.1 contains many problems. v5.2 works fine. I don't know what rudy says.



Normis, do you mean there are more problems fixed in v5.2 than what is mentioned in changelog? You have only 3 fixes mentioned!

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Re: v5.2 released

by margarine » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:51 am

Dear Mikrotik..
i recently upgraded my rb750 from v4.16 to 5.2
in usermanager there is big problem for me..
i've been using credit for my customer, but after upgraded to 5.2 i cant find credit from 4.16. where can i find it?
what should i do my credit in 4.16 can show up in 5.2...
i cant remember all the credit for my customer. but i've backup from my last 4.16
i hope that you can help me...

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Re: v5.2 released

by jero » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:39 am

normis wrote:What's new in 5.2 (2011-Apr-26 16:09):
*) fixed webfig;
*) console - fixed problem with supout file generation and export that
appeared in version 5.1, it was causing console to enter busy loop
on some boards;

My RB-750G is working now !!!! It was freezing several times a day.

Now, apparently, is ok.

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Re: v5.2 released

by WirelessRudy » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:45 am

normis wrote:
wirelesswaves wrote:Nomis, please make 5.1 available on the web site again, for ROS, X86 and 100 series.. Rudy says its fine, but I wont install 5.2 to anymore clients having seen frequency 2429 appear.. (see above post)

Ps, what is this I read that NV2 doesnt work on X86, I am currently using NV2 on wrap2E, which is X86 based. (it seams to be working OK ( apart from usual dropouts similar to other RB variants))


v5.1 contains many problems. v5.2 works fine. I don't know what rudy says.

Rudy says the v5.1 wireless part as far as 802.11a/n and nv2 is concerned works fine. Since 5.2 changelog is not showing any wireless related fixes but according this topic 5.2 has many new (or unsolved old ones) other issues reported Rudy says on a 802.11a/n network 5.1 is fine. I am not influenced by any of the issues mentioned on this 5.2 topic so Rudy is happy with 5.1 unless MT tell me that hidden wireless features not mentioned in changelog for 5.2 are performed.
And since Rudy also expects many more new ´stable´ versions to come Rudy just sits and wait to see what they will bring. For now 5.1 is fine for me. No doubt at the end of the year I will run 5.8 or so.... :shock:

Rudy upgraded rb122's, 133C's, 532(A)'s, 433(AH)'s, 411's, 333's, 1 rb600 and one 493AH all from several 4.x and 5.xrc versions to 5.1. Most upgrades done remotely over wireless. In total 220+ units....
First time ever not had one single issue! That's why Rudy is so happy with 5.1.. :D

Simon; http://download.mikrotik.com/all_packages-x86-5.1.zip
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Re: v5.2 released

by tanjil » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:54 am

same problem occured on 5.2 version .. its not fixed yet

cant reboot the Os properly.. it takes 10 or 20 mins time ... after restart the router /sys log Kernel failure....
how to solve this...

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Re: v5.2 released

by petro25 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:00 am

Very much I want to see in the following version grathing for radio

1) Noise level
2) Signal level
3) Speed of connection
4) Quality of tx of rx

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Re: v5.2 released

by dssmiktik » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:42 am

janisk wrote:this is why you can use keys to authenticate from routeros client and it will work in same manner as paswordless key authentication from any other ssh client.
you have to add key to '/user ssh-keys private' private key on local router and '/user ssh-keys' to add public key and off you go.


Thanks :) I just checked the Wiki and got myself educated on this new feature.
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Re: v5.2 released

by dominicbatty » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:58 pm

I think there may be still be routing issues in v5.2 associated with routing marks. I've only just noticed this and it might also be apparent in prior versions, I'll check next week but perhaps someone could clarify what is happening below.

If I mark all "OUTPUT" traffic from the router in the mangle rules with a new routing mark of "A"

We then have two routes ....

0.0.0.0/0 without a routing mark using interface "int1"
0.0.0.0/0 with routing mark "A" using interface "int2"

If I log all traffic leaving the router using a SRC-NAT logging rule matching to anything with routing mark "A". I then see entries in the log file stating in interface:(none), out interface: "int1".

I know the traffic is correctly marked with routing mark "A" as if it wasn't. the SRC-NAT logging rule would not trigger but it is selecting the route without a routing mark instead of the one marked with routing mark "A" so it appears something in the routing selection is not taking into account the routing mark.

Does this sound correct ... according to the packet flow a routing decision is made before the SRC-NAT as far as I can tell?

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Re: v5.2 released

by fewi » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:17 pm

What are the distances for your routes? The routing mark route should have a lower distance than the generic default route, otherwise it would be treated as ECMP.
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Re: v5.2 released

by dominicbatty » Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:57 am

the distance for the routes, routing mark and non-routing mark are both 1. I thought that ECMP was done by having multiple gateways under a single route and then it selecting them in turn? I tried increasing the distance of the default route but this does not seem to have any effect.

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spurious interfaces

by glucz » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:41 pm

I reported a problem previously that interfaces disappear in winbox, but can be seen through the terminal
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Now I noticed a few spurious interfaces that cannot be removed through the terminal and since the interfaces are missing in winbox, they are virtually invisible and unremovable.

I saw the missing interfaces starting in version 4.x, but these extra interfaces are new in 5.x

I tried to delete them in many different ways, and I show one in the attached screenshot. The one I'm trying to remove is l2tp-0 ... since all my server interfaces are dyamic, static ones are definitely there via some kind of bug.

... one more note: these interfaces will remain in the router after a reboot as well - which is not suprising since they are static.

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Re: v5.2 released

by voxframe » Sun May 01, 2011 1:29 am

Is anyone else noticing a SERIOUS CPU jump on routers that are in moderately well used (~100 clients) environments???

I use the 450G boards as PPPoE servers with RADIUS backend. And on 3.30 and 4.xx the CPU idles around 10% on heavy load. But after upgrading to any 5.x version the CPU is always 60-100%. Nothing else has changed except for the upgrade, and when I downgrade everything goes back to normal.

I have confirmed this on every single routerboard we have. (100+)
The CPU usage is MUCH higher, without any good reasoning behind it.

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Re: v5.2 released

by glucz » Mon May 02, 2011 11:06 am

I had 3 high CPU usage related crashes on 5.2 within the past 2 days on 2 different x86 routers. I couldn't do a supout in the first 2 cases and forgot in the 3rd case, but I did make a profile screenshot. A reboot was required in all cases. There were about 30 users logged in with 3mbps traffic. Normal CPU usage in those cases is 5-8%.
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Re: v5.2 released

by normis » Mon May 02, 2011 12:44 pm

wirelesswaves wrote:Nomis, and the other respondant.

Because 2429 is not even a valid channel!!! So why is it there!..


There is no such thing as "valid channel" if you enable "Superchannel", which you have done. Set it back to manual-txpower and these other frequencies will be gone. Superchannel mode allows you to set any frequency you want, it doesn't list any "channels".
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Re: v5.2 released

by benmikrotik » Mon May 02, 2011 3:25 pm

Is usermanager working on this release?

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Re: v5.2 released

by normis » Mon May 02, 2011 3:27 pm

benmikrotik wrote:Is usermanager working on this release?


yes
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Re: v5.2 released

by yogii » Mon May 02, 2011 6:45 pm

hi..

i have plan to buy ROS DOM, but i doubt about level, is there different of ROS level 4/5/6 about performace? or other?

thx a lot. :)

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Re: v5.2 released

by dadaniel » Mon May 02, 2011 11:28 pm

ToMikaa87 wrote:5.2 still has the througput issue.


I am also having throughput issues with 5.2 on RB750G. I only get ~30Mbps of my 100Mbps connection. No problem with 4.17

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Re: v5.2 released

by bwigham » Mon May 02, 2011 11:59 pm

normis wrote:
benmikrotik wrote:Is usermanager working on this release?


yes


I don't think "yes" is correct.

I've found this software no were near stable enough to be used in a live environment.

I have had to re-install the software and re-entered all my users manually twice this week at 4am when there’s nobody online. Then I’ve got customers trying to create an account and purchase credit. I have lost a lot of customers because the account won’t create because of ‘primary key not unique’ errors. Then when they do create an account and purchase credit, it’s completely random whether or not the profile will get added. Since last weekend, I’ve been sitting waiting on emails coming in from PayPal and when they do, I have to check and make sure the account got the profile added ok. If it hasn’t, I then try and add the profile manually - though it doesn’t work most of the time, again with the ‘primary key’ error.
The only way I could get through this week was to create a load of accounts with profiles (did this the last time I rebuilt the database), delete the faulty account and setup one of the pre-made accounts with their details.

I’m not sure if the older versions work without these issues, but if they do I would advise anyone thinking of using this version for anything other than testing, to not do it..!

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Re: v5.2 released

by benmikrotik » Tue May 03, 2011 3:08 am

normis wrote:
benmikrotik wrote:Is usermanager working on this release?


yes


I'm gonna try it this weekend.

I've read that the "time start on first log on" was removed. Why? I am using voucher/prepaid accounts with this option enabled.

This option is very important so time only starts when user logs in.

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Re: v5.2 released

by siprox » Tue May 03, 2011 6:50 am

benmikrotik wrote:
normis wrote:
benmikrotik wrote:Is usermanager working on this release?


yes


I'm gonna try it this weekend.

I've read that the "time start on first log on" was removed. Why? I am using voucher/prepaid accounts with this option enabled.

This option is very important so time only starts when user logs in.


yes, same question from me?, why this function removed?. we stuck on v.4.17 now.. im very glad v.5 userman, can breaking the voucher on to more than 3 voucher per paper, will saving the papers.

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Re: v5.2 released

by timberwolf » Tue May 03, 2011 8:50 am

dadaniel wrote:
ToMikaa87 wrote:5.2 still has the througput issue.


I am also having throughput issues with 5.2 on RB750G. I only get ~30Mbps of my 100Mbps connection. No problem with 4.17


@dadaniel:
Could you please provide further information on your problems in a separate thread, including your setup?
Than someone might be able to help you, and you can always send a supout file to MT.
Please stop posting unspecific problem descriptions in various unrelated threads.
V5.x may have an effect on your setup, but that doesn't necessarily mean, that there isn't a configuration problem in your setup.

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Re: v5.2 released

by normis » Tue May 03, 2011 9:26 am


yes, same question from me?, why this function removed?. we stuck on v.4.17 now.. im very glad v.5 userman, can breaking the voucher on to more than 3 voucher per paper, will saving the papers.


this function didn't work in any version before. including v4.17, that's why we removed it, until it can be fixed. so basically it doesn't matter for you if you use v5.2 or v4.17
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Re: v5.2 released

by rpingar » Tue May 03, 2011 10:02 am

still bridge filter dosn't show any stats,
does it work and have only stats update problem or it doesn't work at all?

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Re: v5.2 released

by normis » Tue May 03, 2011 10:07 am

rpingar wrote:still bridge filter dosn't show any stats,
does it work and have only stats update problem or it doesn't work at all?

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