Lets stick to spectral topic.

I got high hopes for Mikrotik to complete this project.  Cant wait for version 7 to come out and check for the AC spectral scan!

I got fed up waiting for mikrotik to implement this so i replaced a multihop link with 4 powerbeam AC 400's and never looked back. I'm getting over 110 mbits/sec end to end with a single tcp stream and 3ms latency @20mhz channel width v8beta14. In fact, it's so good, i'm getting ready to replace my whole network of 500+ customers. In this day and age, spectrum analysis is necessity, not a luxury especially with AC gear. Why mikrotik didn't implement this before releasing AC is beyond me. Somebody needs to get fired if you ask me. Very bad decision. 

I don't like to dig up old topic, but why are MTK guys waiting on spectral scan implementation?

Chirp .... Chirp ..... Chirp ......

Yeah, I am holding on but starting to buy other products, not because I want to but because we are outgrowing this product. If it had this feature I could keep on it. We will still use it in some areas.

RB6.37 RC with wireless package, still no spectral history. Will probably join others in abandoning MikroTik. This feature is a necessity.

RB6.37 RC with wireless package, still no spectral history. Will probably join others in abandoning MikroTik. This feature is a necessity.

Me too.

Still no news about this?

Can't wait for v7 to come and bring us this glorious tool

I will be banned for spamming

With 80mhz we need a spectrum analyzer. When can we have this feature. Its hard to find the best channel if we cant look. I use spectral scan all the time. Its so important.

LOL yeah but you know as well as I do, as soon as your competitor changes channels your gunna be right back out there on a service call,

Although this doesn't help most people with this issue, the hAP AC (full, not lite) can do spectral scan w/AC. (Therefore it seems the lack of the function is something to do with the chip itself rather than whether it is AC or N)

Well that's cool

It looks like the newer outdoor devices (NetMetal, SXT ac) use almost the same chip as the hAP AC full (just one model different, QCA9557 vs QCA9558). Perhaps MikroTik has silently added the feature to all the models that use this chip series? It might require a firmware upgrade as well. I am running 6.37.1 with the latest RB firmware, 3.34 for the model I am using.

(I know someone who has the hAP AC lite and this feature does NOT work on the lite. However the lite uses a very different chip than the full, whereas the NetMetal and SXT are just one model off)

Well, I know one thing for sure. Mikrotik will have a surprise for us. The new 6.37 has super fast wireless. With only 2 chains I can put 1 connection tcp at 300Mbps. Udp is over 400Mbps. This is a four-mile link. Nice work mikrotik.

Well, I know one thing for sure. Mikrotik will have a surprise for us. The new 6.37 has super fast wireless. With only 2 chains I can put 1 connection tcp at 300Mbps. Udp is over 400Mbps. This is a four-mile link. Nice work mikrotik.

Which routerboard? nstreme or nv2? Did you test ptmp?

6.37.1 seems to works little better also in PtMP scenario TDMA period size=auto 20 Mhz channel high noise enviroment

I hope Dallas words is not wrong and we can see soon spectral scan and gps synchronization

Although this doesn't help most people with this issue, the hAP AC (full, not lite) can do spectral scan w/AC. (Therefore it seems the lack of the function is something to do with the chip itself rather than whether it is AC or N)

This only works with the 2.4 GHz WLAN interface.
It doesn't work with the 5 GHz WLAN interface.

here in my business I downloaded all the MikroTik devices with AC because without the spectrum analyzer is unfeasible be used, it would be like driving with blindfolded, how to know the right channel?

You can guess and try according to the wireless snooper.

You can guess and try according to the wireless snooper.

just that's the problem, here in my city the spectrum is very polluted and the snooper is very limited, as it has many here who use 3,5,8,10,30,60,80,160mhz of channel-width with owners protocols often are not detected by the snooper, and every week I have to monitor the spectrum, so I downloaded all mantbox and other AC devices and put back the old equipment

I know that. Therefore I wrote "guess and try". But anyway you cannot effectively use ac in such environment. It is a big shame that spectral scan is still missing at ac devices. I have nothing more to add to it.

any news?

No news. Waiting for v7 (waiting for Godot)

Any official answer from Mikrotik?
Wait for V7 or?

The real reason we need a spectral history is to is to see if we need to move our backhaul or AP antenna away from the interference.

We are waiting more than 2 years for spectral scan

We are waiting more than 2 years for spectral scan

And still nothing

This is what i am saying about 2 years ago,
Wireless is Not Longer the Main thing for Mikrotik.

Why they offer Omnitik AC about 3 years later den SXT AC?
Why we have no spectral Scan in AC devices
Why there is no 802.11ad SXT or Somthing Else?

They Put all there Manpower in Routing like CCR and CHR and they offer more an more Low-Cost devices, like HAP Lite, like LHG (Why this Client is Not AC with Fast-Ethernet like SXT Lite 5ac?)



Mistry7

Ubiquiti slayed Mikrotik with affordable wifi devices. Maybe that is the reason ubnt have working spectral scan with same hardware - two years ago...

Right, and Why Ignite have 802.11ad outdoor System, build with a 802.11ad USB3 Modul?
There is free spectrum, It is easy to Build GBit Links over 800-1000m

Spectral Scan seems to be unimportant for Mikrotik

Why RF Elements is selling there Horn Antenna so often? Interference are the Main reason, and we have no spectral Scan to see the interference.

Mistry7

any news? i recently bought six dynadishes to make ptp links and discovered this awfull truth!!!! moving to another brand?

any news? i recently bought six dynadishes to make ptp links and discovered this awfull truth!!!! moving to another brand?

Seems to be The only way
Mikrotik did not answer, so we Never see this features

2 years later waiting..
Here I removed all the APs and AC stations and put the N equipment and when necessary I happened to use other brands (I am seriously thinking of changing everything to another brand, because I need more througtput),
Because 2 years later mikrotik AC technology does not work properly, power, spectrum among other functions

Still no news?

Mikrotik is so far from competitor cambium is on another planet: remote spectral scan on client, gps sync, ecc and Ubiquiti is very close to do gps sync....

I really hope im missing something, but after seeing the potential of /int wire spectral-scan on some of our slightly older MT equipment (ie hAPac and Sextants) , we just deployed 12 x new OmniTik5 AC poe's (48v poe ones, not the older OmniTik 5ghz) For a client, and i went to run (6.39.2) :

/int wire spectral-scan wlan1-5g
failure: this device can not do spectral scan

??? is this true on this new device? (is it the AR9888 cant HW support it? then if so why was this radio used for such a new product?)

any info would help, thanks!

We hope it is one internal Road Map for Mikrotik, but we know nothing.
What we know is, that it is not working with all Mikrotik AC Equipment

Any official update from Mikrotik on AC spectral scan?

No news as of yet.

Sad is that Mikrotik is silent. No official statement since 2014

Come on, MikroTik, this is URGENT!

Stop wasting time adding new non-important features and fix Spectral Scan now!
Your 802.11ac devices are useless in heavy noise environments until this is solved. 3 years and nothing yet...

Or maybe you should send your engineers to spend some hours picking clean channels for every customer on the world. In this case, I expect an engineer here this Monday and won't pay for it. PM me and I will send address.

I agree we still really need this , esp. on some of the latest RB hardware / products it's surprising it's not still supported.

Even an expected date or some kind of official comment would be helpful.
Thanks

+99
Get fired wifi / radio team now & employ new.... It's disgusting. 3 years ago upgraded base stations & waste lots of money. Mikrotik AC spectral scan & nstreme for ac not exists still must use 802.11 N mode.

Mikrotik has not focus on Wisp Outdoor Devices any longer

Why we See new SXTsq as a/n device until other releases AC Wave 2 devices?
It is the Same with spectral Scan.

802.11ad is announced But i did Not believe we See this devices in 2017

The issue isn't with Mikrotik's programming capabilities. Unfortunately they are choosing to be tight lipped as to why this feature is absent. Qualcomm realized how important this feature was and started limiting it's support in their chipsets to more expensive chips that are for "enterprise".

In short Mikrotik decided to keep costs down and pad profits by using the chips that do not include this feature. If this ever changes, you will have to buy new equipment anyways. Stop waiting, vote with your wallet and jump the ship. Mikrotik is so far behind in the wireless market.

Either that, or someone from Mikrotik can get their butt's in here and tell us/add support for these features in a Compex or JJPlus card and you can start using M11Gs.

The issue isn't with Mikrotik's programming capabilities. Unfortunately they are choosing to be tight lipped as to why this feature is absent. Qualcomm realized how important this feature was and started limiting it's support in their chipsets to more expensive chips that are for "enterprise".

In short Mikrotik decided to keep costs down and pad profits by using the chips that do not include this feature. If this ever changes, you will have to buy new equipment anyways. Stop waiting, vote with your wallet and jump the ship. Mikrotik is so far behind in the wireless market.

Either that, or someone from Mikrotik can get their butt's in here and tell us/add support for these features in a Compex or JJPlus card and you can start using M11Gs.

@rtacheny,based on your experience, where to look for good AP's/WiFi devices that deliver better results ? Probably I'm going to use MT devices for routing only, at least till MT get back into expected level.

If chipsets are the problem, then why Mikrotik is not offering us the choice to buy an AC product with a chipset that supports spectral scan. I'm sure most ISPs will gladly pay for it.

Every time I got a "topic reply notification" I hope that someone from Mikrotik have some gret news. But sadly, this waiting is killing me

Every time I got a "topic reply notification" I hope that someone from Mikrotik have some gret news. But sadly, this waiting is killing me

There is only one advice at the moment if your Wireless is working in noisy invoirement, don't by Mikrotik AC Products!

Or just opt out of the notifications from this thread...

Mikrotik, what about this model - https://mikrotik.com/product/lhg_5_ac ? Does it have spectral history? I see non-atheros chip used in it: IPQ-4018-0-180DRQFN-MT-00-0

IPQ is Atheros-Qualcomm.........
And i have SXTsq AC here with IPQ4018
no spectral scan......

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=128310#p632411

IPQ is Atheros-Qualcomm.........
And i have SXTsq AC here with IPQ4018
no spectral scan......

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=128310#p632411

Ok thanks, looks like mikrotik ignoring obvious basic requirements for the modern equuipment to make it cheaper. The most nearest competitor has spectral scan in all AC devices + able to do live spectral scan. Have to stay with N equipment but really time to start looking for something modern from competitors (and very sad about that)

IMHO, the fact than Mikrotik do no talk about this, do not announce any plan about this is very negative fot MK, beacuse a lot of clients are having decisions migrating some equipments to other maker, in the absence of solutions about this and other issues (openvpn over udp, gps sync and lot of them).

If we knew some plans (positive or negative) about this questions we have the position to wait or not for this solutions, but the long silence for plans of any type is frustrating.

In own case, we bet strongly for MK years ago, but lastly we are switching some solutions for other makers to our regret

Ok thanks, looks like mikrotik ignoring obvious basic requirements for the modern equuipment to make it cheaper. The most nearest competitor has spectral scan in all AC devices + able to do live spectral scan. Have to stay with N equipment but really time to start looking for something modern from competitors (and very sad about that)

Sadly, we have been solving it since 2014....
Now mikrotik have 802.11AC wave2 chip in LHG5ac and sxtsq AC. But the problem persists in new hardware....

Spectral scan is supported

For ath10k/AR98xx based cards, use:

ip link set dev wlan0 up
echo background > /sys/kernel/debug/ieee80211/phy0/ath10k/spectral_scan_ctl
echo trigger > /sys/kernel/debug/ieee80211/phy0/ath10k/spectral_scan_ctl
iw dev wlan0 scan
echo disable > /sys/kernel/debug/ieee80211/phy0/ath10k/spectral_scan_ctl
cat /sys/kernel/debug/ieee80211/phy0/ath10k/spectral_scan0 > samples

Source https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/use ... ctral_scan

Spectral scan is supported
Source https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/use ... ctral_scan

We know about ath10k features, we are using our own wireless driver, where this implementation isn't as straight forward as on ath10k
Best regards,
Antons B.
Mikrotik