ok so far i have everything working fine but no luck with lftp my normal ftp server i got running behind my rb750 is working fine when using normal ftp and using windows ftp clients but when i use lftp it hangs when doing nlist! my firewall rules are working fine and there is no problem whatsoever with any of my other programs any idea?

Disable connection helpers (Ip/Firewall/Service ports), and activate lftp Passive connection (see ftp:passive-mode in http://lftp.yar.ru/lftp-man.html )

That should help.