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Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by terrysolid » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:15 pm

I am having a problem with Winbox where any drag and drop functionality is simply not working.

I cannot drag and drop files nor can I reorder items in lists. The problem occurs regardless of what version of RouterOS the router I connect to is running.

Running windows 7 ultimate 64 bit, this issue has survived a format and clean install so I suspect its an issue with Winbox.

Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by normis » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:16 pm

Works fine for me on same versions. Show us a screenshot where you try to drag. Maybe there is another issue
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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by Chupaka » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:22 pm

terrysolid wrote:The problem occurs regardless of what version of RouterOS the router I connect to is running.

so, the problem is only with loader v2.2.16? other loaders work fine?
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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by terrysolid » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:36 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVKxTz45LeU

A demonstration of the problem is above.

I've just tested with 2.2.15 also and the same issue persists.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by normis » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:39 pm

I have the same windows version but don't have this issue. Can you try another PC?
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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by terrysolid » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:53 pm

The other PC's I have run Win7 Home Premium 32 bit and XP Pro and have no issue.

I had the issue on this machine and ignored it for a while thinking it was some sort of software configuration issue, but yesterday I formatted and clean installed.

Literally all I have installed is drivers and a web browser, yet the problem is there again.

Perhaps some drivers are messing with a registry setting somewhere.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by mrz » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:02 pm

Drag & Drop does not work between processes which were started with administrator privileges and normal processes. Probably explorer is running as normal process, but winbox is started with administrator privileges.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by terrysolid » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:28 pm

The strange part is that it also seems to affect reordering of items. For example I cannot reorder items in the Firewall>Nat section.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by ciphercore » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:35 pm

Drag and drop of files is working for me in Windows 7 x64. ROS versions 4.5-5beta2.

I have UAC disabled.

I usually connect via "Mac telnet"

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by terrysolid » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:47 pm

I also have UAC disabled, accessing similar versions.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by siddolo » Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:51 pm

i also have this issue on winxp fresh installed

same winbox.exe at another pc on same routerboard work fine.

explorer.exe and winbox.exe run both as admin

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by normis » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:38 am

connecting with MAC address will bring you many problems. Drag and drop will not work, connections will time out. Use MAC to connect only in emergency cases.
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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by roadracer96 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:41 pm

FYI, I have the same problem. Win7 64bit. Only on Win7. XP works fine.

Doesnt matter if its mac-winbox or IP winbox. Cut and paste works, just not drag and drop.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by greek » Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:55 am

I have the same problem. WinXP Professional 32bit.

Problem with drag-n-dropping files I solved by using Ctrl+C and pressing Paste icon into WinBox window.

But sorting of ip-firewall rules is very big problem whithout d-n-d function. :(

Tested WinBox 2.2.15 and 2.2.16 (IP connection , MAC connection), admin account in WinXP.

I create new user in WindowsXP, relogin and start WinBox, but it did not solved problem.

But all is ok on another computer.

I understand, this is problem of our WinXP systems, but how to find and fix this problem i do not know.

ps: drag-n-drop work normal in Word, Excel and another applications.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by greek » Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:03 pm

I have created a film with a demonstration of two problems drag-n-drop functions: dragging items and files.

Problem with drag and drop files, I partially solved and showed it in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4cu_JEBAm4

To resolve issue with items, I propose a partial solution to the key combination Alt + Up and Alt + Down menu items moved up and down.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by schat » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:35 am

I noticed the same problem in my winodws 7 64bit.
If I log off as my user and login as administrator I can drag and drop fine.
I made my user part of the administrator group and tried it again with my user and I cannot drag and drop.
Some sort of security issue.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by mrz » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:41 am

schat wrote: noticed the same problem in my winodws 7 64bit.
If I log off as my user and login as administrator I can drag and drop fine.
I made my user part of the administrator group and tried it again with my user and I cannot drag and drop.
Some sort of security issue.


mrz wrote:Drag & Drop does not work between processes which were started with administrator privileges and normal processes. Probably explorer is running as normal process, but winbox is started with administrator privileges.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by schat » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:03 am

I dropped the newer winbox.exe file in the c:\windows folder and now I can copy the files fine.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by Krusty » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:47 am

same issue here, cannot drag & drop, cannot use alt + up or down

Im running Win7 Pro x64, UAC disabled, administrator account, I have tryied older mikrotik OS and also the newest OS, older winbox and also newest winbox

only one way I can run and work with winbox is using WinXP mode, whitch is anoying :/

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by FIPTech » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:10 pm

Similar problems here :

- Drag and Drop does not work

- Sub menus do not work (IP, IPV6, Routing, System, Tools).


I feel that Winbox is using special system calls to manage its window because it is the only software giving me problems.

I'm using a clear install of Windows 7 32 bits, and Actual Multiple Monitor, a multi monitor desktop management software similar to Ultramon.

I have three monitors, so a window management software is mandatory for efficient administrative work.


Another problem we have with Winbox is that the passwords are stored in cleartext in the winbox.cfg file stored in the %APPDATA% directory. I tried to portabilize it running it from a launcher and copying back and forth the winbox.ini file from the portable directory to %APPDATA% but it is not a very safe solution and it is complexe (but working).


I would ask two things for next version :

- Normal system calls so that all window functions are working normally, regardless the host system or running window management

- Portability (so that we can run Winbox from a Truecrypt virtual disk)


Thanks for listening.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by synologic » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:41 pm

Same problem here, using Actual Window Manager 6.7.2.
Menus will not show, winbox when closed will not exit (have to kill via task manager).

I have added it to exceptions and all is fine now, took me a while to realise what the problem was :)

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by FIPTech » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:32 pm

For me it does not work if i add it to AWM exception list.

Same problem after exit it does not close, need to kill the process.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by fragtion » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:09 pm

Same issue here with Actual Multiple Monitors. Took me ages to find out AMM was the conflict. First I tried cleaning registry and winbox cache, and was left baffled. Let's hope this is addressed in some way...

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by Ixo » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:45 pm

This is old topic, however it's been 2-3 years now and the problem is still the same. Winbox does not work along with Actual Multiple Monitor application.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by Chupaka » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:54 am

you mean, developers of Actual Multiple Monitor still not fixed their application not to prevent WinBox from its normal work? :) do they know at all? ;)
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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by fragtion » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:19 pm

Chupaka wrote:you mean, developers of Actual Multiple Monitor still not fixed their application not to prevent WinBox from its normal work? :) do they know at all? ;)

touché... winbox uses a non-standard UI, it seems far more likely that it is winbox at fault... I guess it's also worth mentioning that no other application I use has this sort of conflict with AMM

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by mrz » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:44 pm

Contact AMM and report them a bug.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by FIPTech » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:48 pm

It seems to me that Winbox is using a non standard window management, bypassing normal Windows API.

I reported this a long time ago and spent some time with AMM to find a solution without success.

If winbox is non standard, well why not if it's more reliable / performant, but something simple could be done i think to avoid compatibility problems with windows management software.


Did someone try other management window softwares with Winbox ? No problems ?


Perhaps Mikrotik could give some informations about their window management system (or what is non standard in it) so that we can report that to AMM and try to get it working.

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by imaljko4 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:39 pm

mrz wrote:Drag & Drop does not work between processes which were started with administrator privileges and normal processes. Probably explorer is running as normal process, but winbox is started with administrator privileges.


Yes, in my case, this has solved the problem.
I had to start winbox without Administrator privileges. After that drag and drop was working fine!!

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Re: Winbox 2.2.16 on Windows 7 - Broken drag and drop

by wipper » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:01 pm

terrysolid wrote:I am having a problem with Winbox where any drag and drop functionality is simply not working.

I cannot drag and drop files nor can I reorder items in lists. The problem occurs regardless of what version of RouterOS the router I connect to is running.

Running windows 7 ultimate 64 bit, this issue has survived a format and clean install so I suspect its an issue with Winbox.

Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.




I Have the same problem but I uses Windows 8.1 as soon as I run actual multiple monitor on then I cannot click on IP tree, IPv6, Routing, System and Tools. The rest works fine.
if I turn off (Exit Actual Multiple Monitor) then it works fine.

Anyone have this problem solved yet with these winbox 2.2.1.6 and actual multiple monitor ?

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