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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:05 am

I'm using RB751U-2HnD with "Quick Set" v5.15.

Idea is great but seems completely buggy here.
Every time I use it, it change parameters in "Address menu", DHCP... etc.

How to deactivate it?
It is supposed to change these settings. Either use only Quickset, or don't use quickset but configure manually. You can't mix custom config and quickset.
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:38 pm

I'm using RB751U-2HnD with "Quick Set" v5.15.

Idea is great but seems completely buggy here.
Every time I use it, it change parameters in "Address menu", DHCP... etc.

How to deactivate it?
It is supposed to change these settings. Either use only Quickset, or don't use quickset but configure manually. You can't mix custom config and quickset.
This do not work. I try on different RB751U-2HnD with same result. I give you an example:

I set the local IP address (Address List) with "Quickset" and Quickset put by default the WiFi interface (was set to the bridge manually). I change the name but result is the same all the time.
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:44 pm

I set the local IP address (Address List)
# Quickset does not have address-list;
## What Quickset menu is set on your router?
CPE? AP?
### What is configured for Configuration?
Router? Bridge?

If it is bridge, wireless interface is added to bridge together with Ethernet ports. IP address is added to interface and applied for entire bridge.
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:23 pm

I set the local IP address (Address List)
# Quickset does not have address-list;
Address list in IP Menu
## What Quickset menu is set on your router?
CPE? AP?
AP
### What is configured for Configuration?
Router? Bridge?

If it is bridge, wireless interface is added to bridge together with Ethernet ports. IP address is added to interface and applied for entire bridge.
Router

In Address List ("IP" menu), local IP is set with bridge interface (or eth2... will have the same impact)

When I set LAN IP Address in Quickset, this will change the setting in IP menu by WiFi device.
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:44 pm

Just had a RB751G-2Hnd delivered, plugged it in, it worked first time, checked the wireless, it was great, logged in to unit, ran quickset, change SSID and Security and set password.

Tried to find wireless, no wireless showing at all, reset to factory, it was fine, tried again same thing.

When I checked the manual settings after running Quickset, I found it had changed the protocol setting to nv2 nstreme, setting this back to "any" and the wireless re-appeared and could log on again and everything was fine.

When I used bridge mode I had to do a little tweeking to enable all 5 Ports to work as a switch and the unit to work as an access point.

So for anybody having problems with quickset check the protocol setting under Interface wlan1 -> Wireless -> Advanced
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:32 pm

I have a RB751G too, and I am not able to activate the switch ports. Currently I have only port 1 connected to my router, and wlan active. But I want to have the 4 GB ports to work aswell. It is configured using Quickset as AP and in Bridge Mode.

How shall I activate the remaining GB ports to be part of the switch?
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:57 pm

I have a RB751G too, and I am not able to activate the switch ports. Currently I have only port 1 connected to my router, and wlan active. But I want to have the 4 GB ports to work aswell. It is configured using Quickset as AP and in Bridge Mode.

How shall I activate the remaining GB ports to be part of the switch?
Go to Interfaces and decide which port you want as the master port, then select each of the other ports in turn and choose in the the drop down box labelled Master Port the port you decided was going to be the master.
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:28 am

Thanks. I managed to make it work.
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:41 pm

Why there is no PPTP L2TP in QuickSet? :shock:
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:45 am

Why there is no PPTP L2TP in QuickSet? :shock:
client or server? give us some recommendations on required settings, and we will make it. which section do you want it in? home ap, ap, cpe, bridge?
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:56 pm

I'm Sorry.
Why there is no PPTP L2TP client in QuickSet?

Because there are 5 basic types the connection Internet -
1. Static IP
2. Dynamic IP
3. PPPoE
4. PPPTP (Dual Access)
5. L2TP (Dual Access)

I didn't understand at what here WiFi?
PPTP L2TP doesn't depend on that what network – wire or wireless.
Thanks.
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:33 am

to make a PPTP tunnel, you need to have an address already. This will not replace "address aquisition". You still need that DHCP client
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:36 am

Sure.
And all routers of the world support without problems - DHCP + PPTP L2TP (Dual Access). But not Mikrotik (I mean Dual Access).

I am connected to one of the largest providers of Ukraine. Vega Telecom.
I have the following settings:

1. DHCP- client Dynamic IP (by my MAC-address)
2. + PPTP (Dual Access)

PPTP:
1. My Address vpn = matrix.vpn (NS name instead of IP)
2. My Login
3. My password

But in QuickSet there is no simple PPTP L2TP, not to mention Dual Access PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP.
And without QuickSet too it is very difficult to adjust PPPoE, PPTP L2TP Dual Access. Because Mikrotik supports only simple PPPoE, PPTP L2TP.
Though on all other routers it is adjusted in couple of clicks and works on Dual Access PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP.
This will not replace "address aquisition". You still need that DHCP client
I do not see problems.
PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP - As an option for Static IP or Dynamic IP.
And Static IP can be empty for PPPoE. (PPPoE without IP)ю Exists PPPoE and without IP or with Dynamic IP.

So most clearly and logically and universally
And You add a button Clone MAC
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:57 pm

thanks
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:06 pm

What about encryption settings? As far as I know, Dual Access is used only in Ukraine and Russia. This is a very specific requirement. I guess you can make it with a custom Webfig skin.

Of course we will consider adding a generic PPTP client to the Webfig, but as in other places of RouterOS, it most likely will not support DNS names
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:31 pm

What about encryption settings? As far as I know, Dual Access is used only in Ukraine and Russia. This is a very specific requirement.
Dual Access - It simply.
It just other route to vpn-server. Encryption Here does not play a role.
See - The Orange Frame - 2 route - DualAccess and Classic (with red cross)
Dual Access support on Mikrotik it would be remarkable.
And it is even better that classical PPTP, L2TP and Dual Access PPTP, L2TP was supported in QuickSet too.
In fact there is not present in general any PPTP, L2TP in QuickSet.

I guess you can make it with a custom Webfig skin.
WinBox would like certainly, instead of WebFig.
Of course we will consider adding a generic PPTP client to the Webfig, but as in other places of RouterOS, it most likely will not support DNS names
It is very sad that "it most likely won't support DNS names" :?

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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:33 pm

Yes, maybe "you" don't need encryption. But people outside of Russia, where this function would not be made for accessing pirate movie servers, but for other purposes, Encryption could be very important. This would mean many other configuration options. We need to consider needs of all users, and make the interface optimal for everybody.
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:39 pm

Encryption for Dual Access does not differ from the standard PPTP, L2TP.
It is optional.

Dual Access - It just other route to vpn-server. Here all differences

I have studied this theme thoroughly.
On different routers and Windows Linux Unix - and I Also compared with Mikrotik
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:45 pm

Please clarify - what is the thing that you can't do already in Winbox?

Can create PPTP, can make create default route. Only support for DNS name is missing now ?
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:56 pm

support for DNS name is missing now - It not the main problem.



The main problem is a wrong route to a vpn-server. (Mark - Red Cross)
Can create PPTP, can make create default route.
In it and a problem, that a route by default to vpn-server to create it is possible.
But it will not work never.
And route by default to vpn-server has Distance=0, and it cannot be blocked my static route.

Only if to use Rules tab - but these are crutches.
And not everyone will guess about the Rules tab.
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:00 pm

You need this route, how will you reach the server ?
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:10 pm

Remote Address from my VPN-client -10.128.4.9 (matrix.vpn)

Route by Default to VPN-server 10.128.4.9 - through Interface WAN1-pptp
And a correct route to VPN-server 10.128.4.9 (for Dual Access) - through IP 10.0.37.1

10.0.37.1 - It is a Gateway which is received on DHCP-client

This is the DualAccess. It is very simple
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:19 pm

I do not see where is the problem.

1) /32 IP address is assigned by PPTP/L2TP server (DAC route created after), and connection could not be established without it.



2) What kind of traffic do you need to pass over tunnel and over DHCP [non-encrypted] link?

As now when add-default-gateway is not added,
- all traffic is forwarded over PPTP/LT2TP tunnel;
- in case tunnel connection brakes, all traffic is forwarded over DHCP connection.
How do you want to route your traffic?
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:32 pm

Route by Default to VPN-server 10.128.4.9 - through Interface WAN1-pptp
In a typical setting pptp-client (IP_vpn-login-password)
Internet does not work.
The TX-traffic is Ok, and RX-traffic is not present.
And later 1 minute - There is a break PPPTP of connection.
Because it is Dual Access.

And a correct route to VPN-serever 10.128.4.9 (for Dual Access) - through IP 10.0.37.1
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:35 am

You need this route, how will you reach the server ?
This default route to the vpn-server wrong for Dual Access.
Simple PPTP routing --------- 10.64.83.130 ----------------------------------------------------- 10.128.4.9 .....internet

This route is correct
Dual-Access PPTP routing --- 10.64.83.130 --10.0.137.56 ---------------------10.0.137.1-- 10.128.4.9 .....internet


10.64.83.130 - My IP from vpn-server
10.128.4.9 - vpn-server IP

10.0.137.56 - My IP from DHCP
10.0.137.1 - Gateway (Route 0.0.0.0/0), Which is received from DHCP

It is simpler to me not to explain, I can simply show as Dual Access works.
I have 2 Internet and RB750 and Real Static IP.
I am tired of beating on a wall of misunderstanding, that there is such a Dual Access
It is obviously specified on a screenshot:
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:30 pm

Thank you for the clarification.
I see the problem now.

PPTP server route conflicts with route to PPTP server.
For proper setup, your ISP could configure loopback [or different] address for local IP of tunnel.

Assume you are using 1.1.1.1 to connect to PPTP server, for proper setups it should be different from IP address that will be used by tunnel. Because as soon as tunnel is established /32 IP addressing is configured,
x.x.x.x/32 - one end address [server];
y.y.y.y/32 - second end address [client].
1) For proper setups your ISP should use different address for PPTP server connection and for established tunnels.
2) The feature you are asking for: PPTP tunnel reachable over interface (WAN1) according to your screenshots, PPTP server is not designed to be used in local networks, for such purpose PPPoE is created (to reach PPPoE server over interface in broadcast domain). PPTP server could not be reached by interface, ip routing is required for it.

Currently there are two solutions,
- use routing-mark setup as you are already using;
- ask ISP to change IP addressing to proper scheme (different address for PPTP server itself, and PPTP address used for tunnel communication).

Perhaps we will add this feature to Quickset, when we will make it for tunnels (but not in the near future).

P.S. DNS resolving for tunnel address might be added in near future.
 
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Re: Quickset (new in v5.12)

Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:00 pm

Hi

QuickSet is great however it keeps appearing even after we have routers (CCRs) fully configured and operational

I'm scared someone will click Apply without thinking and wipe out our custom configs

How does RouterOS flag that a config is loaded and the Quickset menu should no longer be displayed?

(This is on 6.x up to 6.22)

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