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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:40 pm

SXT ac does not have galvanic isolation and it supports only positive 48V. May be later we will add -48V support to some new products.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:50 pm

Seems you were not with cars for the time long enough to see the cars with positive pole on chassis. Anyway you are right. It is better to have all devices with the same grounding.
galvanic isolation solves all problems
If device has it then does not matter whether grounded is + or -
Ok, but do we know if MT routerboards are galvanic isolated? I don't think so. I've had several instances in the past where an occasional touch of a plus wire to the casing of and board housing cause sparks or the routerboard to be rebooted....

I think this new voltage with the different earth side connection is very important to us all and to know how it really is.... So if normis or any of MT can shine a light on this issue would be much appreciated....!
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:54 pm

SXT ac does not have galvanic isolation and it supports only positive 48V. May be later we will add -48V support to some new products.
oeps, my post just crossed yours...

But anyway, shouldn't it be mentioned now that these units can't be used in earthed situations together with -12 or -24V situations. Or ru just happy the unaware user is burning his stuff and has to buy new?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:10 pm

Is there anything in the works for an NV2 equivalent of 802.11ac?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:16 pm

Actually this whole "-" or "+" earth issue brings a whole line of weird issues to the surface now..

I am having one installation were my tower is actually at the same building as telcons mobile phone antenna systems.
It's there for years now, and I have even longer my tower at the same site with all kinds of MT antennas and devices.
Some two/three years ago I started to use shielded (ftp) ethernet cables to connect, and interconnect my devices which most of them were up to these days unearthed as well. Even my tower was unearthed for years and functioning fine.
But probably around the days of the introduction of ftp together with giga ports we were getting weird power related issues. So I ended up to earth all my antenna's, all my indoor gateway routers (like a rb1100AH in a professional cabinet, all earthed) and even the 24V volt battery backup system ("-" to earth) to an earth ring line that was conveniently deployed by an telco while installing their stuff........ 8)
But we actually never got rid of the weird issues and we found that several units better not be earthed or interconnected just to keep them running..... I lost several boards in short cuts were we didn't had a clue where they were coming from...
We even had qualified electrician look at the site, an ex radio engineer, but nobody had a clue....
In the end most boards were all connected same, where the antenna's mostly are not connected to any earth. That was the only working way...

Until I red the post of HaQs I never knew anything about different type of connections to earth....
So now I think I have to separate my earth connections completely from the telcons earth and hopefully it solves my problems.....

Why nobody else ever reported similar issue on this forum? Maybe because it is not very usual to have a tower location shared between wifi user and telco? Or the ones that do just happen to know? Or just were puzzled like me and never mentioned?

Anyway, I think it to be very irresponsible for MT if they now bring a line of product to the market that inherently will create issues if used in combination with their old and present line of products and they are going to be connected in a 'the book tell us to do so" type of manner (=all earthed). Users should at least be warned against probable issues!
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:25 pm

Is there anything in the works for an NV2 equivalent of 802.11ac?
hmm, Is it not? I don't know, haven seen an ac unit yet in real. But ROS 6.17 should be 'ac'-compatible. 6.17 on any other radio has NV2. Does your post mean the NV2 options are not available? Or do they just not work? Or is it inherent to the 8702.11ac protocol that tdma is not supported?

I am just anxious to know how the situation is. I was planning on buying some ac kit to deploy a new tower for a set of new clients. But if tdma is not working or available I am afraid that ac, even with its standard build in interference avoidances, still will suffer in a matter of years by all the other towers that probably are going to be converted into ac in the times to come...
I hated it to have to replace my units every so many years, so I'd rather wait until a product line is a bit more matured before I start to deploy.
Meaning at the same time I am walking behind the competition that asap push the new line of ubnt products in every corner of the country.

So yes, MT; tdma on ac? When? How? Or, why not?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:39 pm

SXT ac does not have galvanic isolation and it supports only positive 48V. May be later we will add -48V support to some new products.
As it is unnecessary in SXT

-48V power supply is used only in bigger base point

Also, this functionality has been greatly appreciated by 2-3 products:
CRS with more SFP fiber to aggregation NETMETALs fibers
in NETMETALs
maybe in QRTac
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:20 pm

SXT ac does not have galvanic isolation and it supports only positive 48V. May be later we will add -48V support to some new products.
As it is unnecessary in SXT

-48V power supply is used only in bigger base point

Also, this functionality has been greatly appreciated by 2-3 products:
CRS with more SFP fiber to aggregation NETMETALs fibers
in NETMETALs
maybe in QRTac
"Unnecessary in SXT", because normally nobody connects these to ground... but what if someone now decides to follow manual and does connect it?
And what happens when ftp cable is used, that obviously has to be on ground. And if not, it still interconnects two boards. If the board is not galvanic isolated, and the other end isn't neither but opposite ground, what than? Fireworks? Or just a bit of smoke......

The literature actually states that on both ends of the ftp cable both the equipments should be earthed to achieve 1Gb port status.

So, although SXT-ac might not really need to be earth connected to work, the moment you want to connect it with ftp cable to get the most out of the throughput you will have an issue....

I think this really needed to sort out properly otherwise MT is going to see a lot of comments coming their direction.... :(
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:50 pm

Is there anything in the works for an NV2 equivalent of 802.11ac?
hmm, Is it not? I don't know, haven seen an ac unit yet in real. But ROS 6.17 should be 'ac'-compatible. 6.17 on any other radio has NV2. Does your post mean the NV2 options are not available? Or do they just not work? Or is it inherent to the 8702.11ac protocol that tdma is not supported?

I am just anxious to know how the situation is. I was planning on buying some ac kit to deploy a new tower for a set of new clients. But if tdma is not working or available I am afraid that ac, even with its standard build in interference avoidances, still will suffer in a matter of years by all the other towers that probably are going to be converted into ac in the times to come...
I hated it to have to replace my units every so many years, so I'd rather wait until a product line is a bit more matured before I start to deploy.
Meaning at the same time I am walking behind the competition that asap push the new line of ubnt products in every corner of the country.

So yes, MT; tdma on ac? When? How? Or, why not?


Both NV2 and Nstreme are stated to work on ac products! :)

Product info from Routerboard.com:
SXT ac

The new AC standard is here, with up to 866Mbit over the air datarate, 256-QAM modulation, and 80MHz channels. 802.11ac opens up new possibilities and speeds never possible before.

The SXT ac is a new member in our 802.11ac product lineup, currently two models are available — with regular 28 degree antenna, and the SA model with a 90 wide beam- width sector antenna. Also supports 802.11a/n mode and is compatible with all legacy RouterBOARD devices, including Nstream and Nv2 protocols. Both devices come with Gigabit Ethernet.


http://routerboard.com/RBSXTG-5HPacD
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:49 am

When R11e AC is going to be available?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:34 am

nstream and nv2 seem to be available on 802.11ac. I have options for it and tabs in winbox. I don't have a second board yet to see if it functions.
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:03 am

I don't even have a 1st board to try :)
But you can click Apply and if some combination is not allowed it should warn you, altough I'm sure it is supported, there is no reason not to.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:34 am

SXT ac does not have galvanic isolation and it supports only positive 48V. May be later we will add -48V support to some new products.
oeps, my post just crossed yours...

But anyway, shouldn't it be mentioned now that these units can't be used in earthed situations together with -12 or -24V situations. Or ru just happy the unaware user is burning his stuff and has to buy new?

In -12V, -24V or -48V case negative line and 0V (zero potential) line are isolated from board ground common (secondary) ground by transformer so there is no risk to "burn" your board. The same is already done in RB800 : it has galvanic isolation and can function with both positive and negative voltages. You can buy one and see how it works :)
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:15 am

Price and time of sale to the public of R11E ac is worrisome.
This is also 2×2? Or 3×3?

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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:43 am

Thank you for information.
Solved one question.

Best regards.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:57 am

Really good news!
r11eac is seems based on AR9882 2*2, what about AR9880 and 3*3? I saw replies on other forums that compex ar9880 3*3 solution don't work yet with mikrotik. And it is damn expensive :(
Would this card (r11eac) work with 912-series (external mini-pcie), not only with rb800/900 board?

BTW (about t-shirts)- mikrotik logo with "routing the world' is more recognizable and certanly needed :lol:
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:06 am

Really good news!
r11eac is seems based on AR9882 2*2, what about AR9880 and 3*3? I saw replies on other forums that compex ar9880 3*3 solution don't work yet with mikrotik. And it is damn expensive :(
Would this card (r11eac) work with 912-series (external mini-pcie), not only with rb800/900 board?
Because I believe that he's flicking a R11E ac to RB912UAG-2HPnD-OUT, the information will be very concerned about.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:30 am

Really good news!
r11eac is seems based on AR9882 2*2, what about AR9880 and 3*3? I saw replies on other forums that compex ar9880 3*3 solution don't work yet with mikrotik. And it is damn expensive :(
Would this card (r11eac) work with 912-series (external mini-pcie), not only with rb800/900 board?

BTW (about t-shirts)- mikrotik logo with "routing the world' is more recognizable and certanly needed :lol:

Compex wle900vx 3*3 is working on rb912, not cheap but ar9888 and working on 3 chains in ROS.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:06 am

License level is 4 and Netbox doesn't have USB
Thank you, Normis. I've already seen you fixed the description.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:18 am

You say these products are now available, where can I purchase them? I need to upgrade some backhauls ASAP. Also, there's a new Mini-PCI card, 802.11ac, high-power, that I can fit into a rb800. Any ETA on that? I bought a couple on ebay, 3 chain with MMCX connectors, but the card is so big it won't fit because of pins and the clamp bar that holds the cooling fan.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:21 am

You say these products are now available, where can I purchase them? I need to upgrade some backhauls ASAP. Also, there's a new Mini-PCI card, 802.11ac, high-power, that I can fit into a rb800. Any ETA on that? I bought a couple on ebay, 3 chain with MMCX connectors, but the card is so big it won't fit because of pins and the clamp bar that holds the cooling fan.
You need to be careful when purchasing miniPCIe ac cards, some of them are wider than normal, which means they don't fit in RouterBOARD products.
The SXT ac and Netbox ac products are on their way to distributors worldwide, many of them should have received them already.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:15 am

when RB11e AC will be send to distributors ?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:15 pm

AC products starting to appear on Bulgarian distributors. Still they are 'coming soon' but getting closer now with expected dates to be available.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:10 pm

From SXTac Datasheet: "802.3af/at supported (Mode B. requires crossover cable)" ... Does this mean that it will only link at 100Mbit when using 802.3af/at? Because Wikipedia says that "Mode B delivers power on the spare pairs".

But there are no spare pairs when using Gigabit
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:45 pm

AC products starting to appear on Bulgarian distributors. Still they are 'coming soon' but getting closer now with expected dates to be available.
https://www.interprojekt.com.pl/advance ... 25_07_2014
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:06 pm

Just ordered 4 SXT AC units from distributor :) , it's needed because one of our internet feeds has been upgraded to 200Mbps.

Will give updates once i have received them.

Rudy : i tried contacting you for a while, email me please mennowz at gmail dot com

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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:17 pm

Maybe this will make us closer to 802.3af, 802.3at common support? :)
SXT ac supports real 802.3af/at standard.
Yup I saw it :)) Thanks for this!
I mean in all future products :)
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:53 am

You say these products are now available, where can I purchase them? I need to upgrade some backhauls ASAP. Also, there's a new Mini-PCI card, 802.11ac, high-power, that I can fit into a rb800. Any ETA on that? I bought a couple on ebay, 3 chain with MMCX connectors, but the card is so big it won't fit because of pins and the clamp bar that holds the cooling fan.
You need to be careful when purchasing miniPCIe ac cards, some of them are wider than normal, which means they don't fit in RouterBOARD products.
The SXT ac and Netbox ac products are on their way to distributors worldwide, many of them should have received them already.
Yes, I was able to get one model to work, but the bigger one that is wider, with the much better MMCX ports is too wide. Dang!! Question, why the heck are you guys making the R11E-AC card a Mini-PCIe, instead of all the standard PCI cards? Does it support faster speeds on PCI or something?

Also, when can we expect R11E-AC, I have tons of PtP's using RB800's that I've been swapping out with AirFiber 5Ghz because there was nothing else to support faster rates on 5Ghz. I'm DYING to test out the R11E-AC cards with my existing RB800 boards as an upgrade. Quicker, and possibly faster rates. I'm hoping Nstreme with AC will provide the good old 1ms solid pings like we got with XR5 cards.

Also I have a feeling RB800 will be better with AC than the Netbox and other integrated products, due to the faster 800Mhz CPU and PowerPC
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:32 pm

@wispwest; What outdoor housing do you use for these rb800's? I'd like to use them more too, but due their size I have to buy a complete cabinet just to house these. The rb4xx extended board series has plenty of outdoor boxes available. But just too small for rb800...
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:09 pm

@wispwest; What outdoor housing do you use for these rb800's? I'd like to use them more too, but due their size I have to buy a complete cabinet just to house these. The rb4xx extended board series has plenty of outdoor boxes available. But just too small for rb800...
I think its made by kam-fab. ODE-MTK. Nice metal enclosure white box with a hinged door that swings open.I hate those other boxes with 10 screws you have to take out everytime.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:54 pm

Question, why the heck are you guys making the R11E-AC card a Mini-PCIe, instead of all the standard PCI cards? Does it support faster speeds on PCI or something?
(mini)PCI-E is the industry standard these days. (mini)-PCI es getting extinct. Current wifi chips do NOT support PCI, only PCI-E.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:39 pm

Do the 802.11ac products support 256QAM with narrower channel widths? What is the highest supported superchannel frequency? Need some PtMP gear for the upper half of licensed 5.9-6.4 GHz band that doesn't cost a small fortune; current 802.11n Atheros chips (in both MT and UBNT products) support max 6100MHz but the only channels still available to be licensed in my area are all above 6100 - any chance to go higher with the new 802.11ac products?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:56 pm

I've beta tested AC products already for 'another' manufacture ;-) and y'all need to also realize that you can also get more throughput using same 20/40 channel widths with AC compared to N. Its not a whole lot, but 10-20%. Where this would benefit is bands where we use smaller channels, like 900 and 2.4 10mhz channel's.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:08 am

From SXTac Datasheet: "802.3af/at supported (Mode B. requires crossover cable)" ... Does this mean that it will only link at 100Mbit when using 802.3af/at? Because Wikipedia says that "Mode B delivers power on the spare pairs".

But there are no spare pairs when using Gigabit
No, it will work at Gigabit in any case. The above text means that it supports both A and B modes, but when using B mode, you need a crossover cable.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:01 am

I've beta tested AC products already for 'another' manufacture ;-) and y'all need to also realize that you can also get more throughput using same 20/40 channel widths with AC compared to N. Its not a whole lot, but 10-20%. Where this would benefit is bands where we use smaller channels, like 900 and 2.4 10mhz channel's.
I expect the new chipsets to have more CPU/Memory power to help handling the nv2 overhead.
The 802.11af/.at is a great move. But I would like to see a more rugged/shielded SXT-SA.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:45 pm

A comment from one of the biggest distributers in the US:

"Where the new Mikrotik items are concerned, this equipment has yet to be released for distribution and pricing even remains unclear, so I will follow up on that part of your inquiry as soon as more information becomes available. Several customers have expressed an interest, so I hope to have more of an answer sooner vs. later, of course."
 
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Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:27 pm

A comment from one of the biggest distributers in the US:

"Where the new Mikrotik items are concerned, this equipment has yet to be released for distribution and pricing even remains unclear, so I will follow up on that part of your inquiry as soon as more information becomes available. Several customers have expressed an interest, so I hope to have more of an answer sooner vs. later, of course."
My Distributor in Germany has received a batch of SXT AC so I will start testing next week.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:40 am

I'll ask again :

when RB11e AC will be available ?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:17 pm

others coming soon
Will there be an U-5HnD equivalent or perhaps a SoHo model coming out soon? I don't want to buy a few U-5HnD units and an 802.11ac model comes out soon after.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:44 am

A comment from one of the biggest distributers in the US:

"Where the new Mikrotik items are concerned, this equipment has yet to be released for distribution and pricing even remains unclear, so I will follow up on that part of your inquiry as soon as more information becomes available. Several customers have expressed an interest, so I hope to have more of an answer sooner vs. later, of course."

I see a few more mentioning it will be available in about a month. Can you recommend anyone, or does anyone know of any place WITH stock? I have some PtP's that need upgraded now, I'd be more than willing to pay extra for international shipping! :)
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:07 pm

Got my first batch of SXT AC and SXT AC SA.
802.11af works fine. The non SA Version does not have a shield painting inside.
So for ptp on a loaded tower some additional shielding might be neccesary.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:09 am

They all said they contacted MIkrotik and it will be 8 WEEKS before the Netbox5's will start shipping, that's 2 months, great. I need upgrade some PtP's now. Only thing that's available is the SXT-AC's, which is the only item anyone has been able to get hands on.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

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They all said they contacted MIkrotik and it will be 8 WEEKS before the Netbox5's will start shipping, that's 2 months, great. I need upgrade some PtP's now. Only thing that's available is the SXT-AC's, which is the only item anyone has been able to get hands on.
It could take a while until everyone receives their shipments. SXT ac was shipped first, this is what I meant. Netbox is still not at the distributors.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac / 953GS-5HnT ?

Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:55 am

does the 953GS-5HnT have galvanic isolation? can it function with both positive and negative voltages?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac / 953GS-5HnT ?

Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:58 am

does the 953GS-5HnT have galvanic isolation? can it function with both positive and negative voltages?
no, it does not, negative is the ground.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:26 pm

Testing results are in, from SXT-AC

- I wish they would've made a larger version dish of this one, like the other sextants that are 19 or 22dbi.
- Data rates: 580/192
- Signal -61/-67
- REAL TCP Throughput:
802.11 - 50/20
Nstreme - 104/50
NV2 - 74/38

I can push UDP 198M with NV2, but real TCP tests only show ~70M. Also, with TX rate of 580, I expected a lot more than just 101Mb! They should've used PowerPC instead of Mibsbe, I've never seen more than 120M with Mipsbe, doesn't matter if the rates are 580, or 866, if it can only handle true 120M then that's all your going to get!
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:08 pm

You are doing something wrong.
i had 3 ptp ac configs:
802.11
nstreme
nv2
the signal was set to -52/-55
The worst result was with 802.11 (internal test ~150/150 udp)
strange, but for me the best was with nstreme: 50/50tcp ccr->stx(ac)-//-sxt(ac)-1100Ahx2 and at same time torrent download,when i get stable 20MB/s. no disconects, etc.
config was simple - ptp bridge via quickset (wds bridge)
with nv2 was little bit worse than nstreme, but i keep in mind, that test was in the lab enviroment.
tomorow i will put this ptp link in the production environment, so i will post results...
cheers
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:20 pm

New AC products:

RB911G-5HPacD - http://forum.mikrotik.com/download/file ... w&id=17848

RB922UAGS-5HPacD -
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:25 pm

New AC products:

RB911G-5HPacD - http://forum.mikrotik.com/download/file ... w&id=17848

RB922UAGS-5HPacD -
Waiting for the boards with .af powering.
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:31 pm

They all said they contacted MIkrotik and it will be 8 WEEKS before the Netbox5's will start shipping, that's 2 months, great. I need upgrade some PtP's now. Only thing that's available is the SXT-AC's, which is the only item anyone has been able to get hands on.
No more waiting required. We have the NetBox5 in stock now as well as all the other new Mikrotik 802.11ac products.

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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:38 pm

when will the rb2011 box come with 802.11ac ?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:53 pm

Got my first batch of SXT AC and SXT AC SA.
802.11af works fine. The non SA Version does not have a shield painting inside.
So for ptp on a loaded tower some additional shielding might be neccesary.
Is there any SXT shield kit available?
 
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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:18 pm

Sorry for replying to an old topic, but I made the blue "Route the world with MikroTik" wallpaper larger so it fits on my phone's screen. Here it is in case anyone else wants it:

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Re: Newsletter 60: 802.11ac

Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:24 pm

Very excited about the AC SXTs....we will be testing them for an event in NYC Mid-Town Manhattan...if they can survive that level of interference then I am sold :D

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