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Re: hAP lite

Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:49 pm

MUM 2015 announcement, in Q3 there will be:

hAp
hAp ac lite (2.4 ghz 2 chain + 5 ghz 1 chain )
hAp ac (gigabit, 2.4 ghz high power 2 chain + 5 ghz high power 3 chain)

Will wait for it :)
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Re: hAP lite

Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:58 pm

Hello. Very nice router for home usage but it makes me sad without IPTV which became very popular nowadays. Is there any chance to have a "multicast" package support for this model in future?
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:26 pm

What about throughoutput comparison with rb2011 (if used only 100Mbit/s ports)?
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:53 am

Any know how to factory reset it... I locked myself out of one and can't reconnect.
Keep holding the button for 5 more seconds until until LED turns off, then release it to make the
RouterBOARD look for Netinstall servers (total 15 seconds) :D
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:50 pm

Will this work as a wireless client to an existing wireless network?

I have a need to connect a wired only device to my home network. I tried a "TP-Link WR702N" as wireless client but it doesn't work at all. I'm hoping this will work as a wireless client to a WPA2-PSK home network.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:01 am

Will this work as a wireless client to an existing wireless network?

I have a need to connect a wired only device to my home network. I tried a "TP-Link WR702N" as wireless client but it doesn't work at all. I'm hoping this will work as a wireless client to a WPA2-PSK home network.
Use CPE-mode in QuickSet.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:59 am

After the upgrade on version 6.27, does not work capstan client
Put the default firmware
 
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Re: hAP lite

Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:54 am

Good one for SOHO use. Just wondering limitation of user it can handle. Has anyone got any idea?
 
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Re: hAP lite

Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:35 am

What about metarouter on this board?

As I see there http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Metarouter
Currently MetaRouter can be used on
RB400, RB700 series, RB900 series, RB2011 boards
and Hap lite runs on RB941-2nD

But there is no option in for metarouter in winbox/web
 
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Re: hAP lite

Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:20 pm

What about metarouter on this board?
Are you joking? This board hardly has enough memory for the main OS. Mikrotik even prepared a special build of RouterOS (with limited functionality) for hAP lite, to fit the available resources. This board is definitely short of resources for the metarouter to work there.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:11 pm

What is maximum voltage, that can be put in hAP?
 
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Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:39 pm

5v only.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:22 am

What is maximum voltage, that can be put in hAP?
Supported input voltage: 5 V
read as "5V only"
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:05 am

When we are getting usermanager on SMIPS platform....
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:00 am

When we are getting usermanager on SMIPS platform....
That's taxing on the router... and SMIPS is about "lite" hardware.

So... Never?
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:37 pm

mikrotik please introduce some sxt like product with smips 5ghz and dual chain
limit features just to basic cpe

at approx $35 price that will make life of wisp easier
thanks
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:03 am

mikrotik please introduce some sxt like product with smips 5ghz and dual chain
limit features just to basic cpe

at approx $35 price that will make life of wisp easier
thanks
Yes this would be ubnt killer. And now 941 is mainly tplink killer!!!
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:27 pm

It's little strange but there's no settings for master-port as well as switch section in WinBox. While this normally can be change with CLI and it's used in default configuration, and I doubt this is such a memory limited feature. Is this marketing or just undone? UPD: Probably the last one cause all these are in the web interface.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:08 am

Bought one and did a test run for apartment installations. By our standards these tested perfect for our requirements. We just bought 44 more to install at apartments. Very happy with hap lite.
Thanks and Great job MikroTik!
 
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Re: hAP lite

Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:47 am

It's little strange but there's no settings for master-port as well as switch section in WinBox. While this normally can be change with CLI and it's used in default configuration, and I doubt this is such a memory limited feature. Is this marketing or just undone? UPD: Probably the last one cause all these are in the web interface.
Make sure you have upgraded your hAP and are looking in the correct menu:
[admin@hAP-lite] /interface ethernet> set 3 master-port=ether2-master-local
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:57 am

Hi everybody, I've probelms with hap access by winbox v.2.2.18, typical "could not get index: missing file!". I've read that is problem with this version. I've the last, rc6, and works, is it true or may be a problem with the hap lite firm? I've tryied to make netinstall and hap lite and map2n is very difficult to make netinstall, many seconds press..............., boring. Thanks and kind regards from Spain.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:59 am

Winbox 3 should be used with hAP lite
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:43 am

it's good for hap products
 
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Re: hAP lite

Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:48 pm

Main problem is reset button not work at all modem not responding and redirect to hotspot :( :( :(
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:26 pm

I have nothing against hAP lite RB 941, but why is not possible to buy RB951-2n. Yes it is more expensive. But RB941 is very low end. There is not full compensation for missing RB951. No other router has consumption up 3w. Only RB941 but this is slower, has very very small space 16MB, (after one week I have only 47% free space - 8,5MB and actalization file has 7MB :-( ) and so on.

Will be any RB with the same parameters as RB951-2n?
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:37 pm

I have nothing against hAP lite RB 941, but why is not possible to buy RB951-2n. Yes it is more expensive. But RB941 is very low end. There is not full compensation for missing RB951. No other router has consumption up 3w. Only RB941 but this is slower, has very very small space 16MB, (after one week I have only 47% free space - 8,5MB and actalization file has 7MB :-( ) and so on.

Will be any RB with the same parameters as RB951-2n?
Yes, see PDF: http://i.mt.lv/eu15.pdf
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:46 pm

Only RB941 but this is slower
It is, actually, faster. CPU 650MHz (hAP lite) vs 400MHz (RB951-2n) and dual-chain radio (hAP lite) vs single-chain radio (RB951-2n).

Check it yourself: hAP lite, RB951-2n
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:10 am

Only RB941 but this is slower
It is, actually, faster. CPU 650MHz (hAP lite) vs 400MHz (RB951-2n)
More Mhz is not more powerfull. See the Honzam's comparation.
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:49 am

Anybody can help me i tried many time to reset i hold button for 15 second and even more but still my router redirect to hotspot even to access main ip 192.168.88.1 and also i cant ping 192.168.88.1 at all. please help me any way i can reset hap lite directly on board if reset button not work like my situation !!
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:16 am

Anybody can help me i tried many time to reset i hold button for 15 second and even more but still my router redirect to hotspot even to access main ip 192.168.88.1 and also i cant ping 192.168.88.1 at all. please help me any way i can reset hap lite directly on board if reset button not work like my situation !!
to reset, do it like this:

- turn off hAP (unplug)
- push reset button and hold it
- plug power (turn on hAP)
- keep holding button until you see one of the LEDs flashing
- release button

you can also try to start holding the button right AFTER plugging power.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:14 pm

I have checked with two method first plug power and then reset and press reset and plug power and wait until led flashing and release same issue

after router boot up 192.168.88.1 redirect to this page

goo.gl/YNvcFg

and...
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:49 pm

I think there is must be some specific port to always go to admin panel regardless of any setting an changes.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:23 pm

try to netinstall your router using smips package http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Netinstall
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:33 pm

Hi everybody, I'm trying to configure CAPsMAN with two hAP lite as APs and it's impossible. I've a RB2011 as CAPsMAN controller, a mAP as first AP, no problem, other RB951 as second AP, no problem, but the two hAP lite, with the same configuration not run. I've installed the last version, 6.28 and firmware updated, but not running. Appears the message that CAPs is activated but not run and not see anything in RB2011. Any idea? Thanks a lot.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:08 am

Will this work as a wireless client to an existing wireless network?

I have a need to connect a wired only device to my home network. I tried a "TP-Link WR702N" as wireless client but it doesn't work at all. I'm hoping this will work as a wireless client to a WPA2-PSK home network.
Dot sure how TP-Link support bridging as wireless client. Check this article http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Wi ... tion_Modes you need to understand what is the issue to configure you device properly.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:34 pm

With ROS 6.28 was released RouterBOOT 3.23.

On hAP lite i see RouterBOOT 3.23, on RB951Ui-2HnD i see 3.22.
Here http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/RouterBOOT_changelog no information about version 3.23.

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Re: hAP lite

Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:34 pm

Just got my hAP lite at the USA MUM this week and can't wait to try it out.

What are you guys seeing for throughout performance on it?
 
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Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:06 pm

Throughput generally depends on configuration. So it can be somewhere between zero and 100Mbits per port. I saw it...
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:55 pm

One rb941 do pppoe, routing, 4 queue tree rules, 3 nat rules and 20mbit/s traffic and cpu runs max. at 10%.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:11 am

Why beeper occupies IRQ (and has usage count) if the beeper is not installed?
 
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Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:17 pm

Why beeper occupies IRQ (and has usage count) if the beeper is not installed?
It is good question :)
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sat May 02, 2015 1:25 pm

It seems like a nice Router. Having RouterOS with such a low price is tempting which leads me to buy this very soon.
But before buying it, I wanted to ask few questions from those who have it already:

1. My main purpose for buying it is using "hot spot" functionality. I saw npk packages available for this new architecture and hotspot was included. but how is the performance? Good enough for max 10 users with limited speed and total bandwidth?

2. since enabling hotspot creates some files on Router's limited storage (html files, etc), am i gonna have problems on storage capacity?

3. Is it possible to use/create some lightly modified hotspot pages? i need to make one in my language and little more info on the page.

4. Am I gonna have storage issues after few months (growing size of default enabled logs, if any?)?

5. Looking at Product's page, I see wifi tx is 20dbm for 6mbps (21.5 considering antenna). this is impressive when compared to RB951-2n and mAP-2n which are weaker and have twice the price. Is it as impressive as it seems? no typo on product page? :D

Sorry for asking lots of questions. Thanks in advance for anyone who read this far :)
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon May 04, 2015 2:32 am

هل يعمل كا اكسس بوينت عادي
Yes it does work as an 'normal' wifi access point .. indoor use.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue May 05, 2015 1:50 pm

Make sure you have upgraded your hAP and are looking in the correct menu
Yep, firmware wasn't the last one. Thanks!
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu May 07, 2015 3:32 pm

What I was surprised is free RAM amount right after I started the hAP. Look at it, it has only 7.7 Mb free out of 32, so I really doubt any services like VPNs, QoS and shaping, and even CAPsMAN support will work good and flawless on such a RAM-less device. But as a device for home use it is kind of good one.

I'd prefer to have two USB ports (and one of it should be full sized), so we can power the device and connect 4G modem at the same time.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu May 07, 2015 9:59 pm

I have nothing against hAP lite RB 941, but why is not possible to buy RB951-2n. Yes it is more expensive. But RB941 is very low end. There is not full compensation for missing RB951. No other router has consumption up 3w. Only RB941 but this is slower, has very very small space 16MB, (after one week I have only 47% free space - 8,5MB and actalization file has 7MB :-( ) and so on.

Will be any RB with the same parameters as RB951-2n?
the only advantage of 951-2n over 941 is poe input, in the wifi specs hap lite its better

hap lite
2.4 GHz
TX RX
1MBit/s 22 -96
11MBit/s 22 -89
6MBit/s 20 -93
54MBit/s 18 -74
MCS0 20 -93
MCS7 16 -71

951 2n

2.4 GHz
TX RX
1MBit/s 17 -96
11MBit/s 17 -88
6MBit/s 15 -92
54MBit/s 11 -73
MCS0 15 -92
MCS7 10 -70

wifi on 951 2n (same as cap 2n and map 2n) its very anemic, in both tx power an rx sensitivity

until hap (No lite) its with us if you need powerfull wifi go with 951 Ui o 951g if you need gigabit switch.

in the future hap AC lite will be anemic as the 951 2n but in 5ghz band in 2.4ghz expected to be ok

hap AC will be the star we many are waiting for, the only questions are: price, poe specs, switch functionalities, and power consumption.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu May 07, 2015 10:00 pm

What I was surprised is free RAM amount right after I started the hAP. Look at it, it has only 7.7 Mb free out of 32, so I really doubt any services like VPNs, QoS and shaping, and even CAPsMAN support will work good and flawless on such a RAM-less device. But as a device for home use it is kind of good one.

I'd prefer to have two USB ports (and one of it should be full sized), so we can power the device and connect 4G modem at the same time.

its 23 us only bro 8)
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu May 07, 2015 11:59 pm

its 23 us only bro 8)
Yes, and it is already too good for the price. Very suspicious, isn't it? I'm still waiting for some really bad thing to be discovered in such a nice toy as hAP lite :) I haven't tested it under huge load (say under general home NAT load), so I don't know for sure if the RAM is ok for home usage, but... anyway, let's hope!
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon May 11, 2015 5:30 am

Only RB941 but this is slower
It is, actually, faster. CPU 650MHz (hAP lite) vs 400MHz (RB951-2n)
More Mhz is not more powerfull. See the Honzam's comparation.
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The hAP lite is much faster than the 951-2n in my experience. Mikrotik tests the throughput on these machines is by utilizing all ports of the device. The 951-2n's maximum throughput 485.8 OR 97.16mbps per port. The hAP lite maximum throughput is 394.8 OR 98.7mbps per port.

This is more evident in 64 byte performance column...

HAP LITE wins with 88.9mbps vs. 75.1mbps
 
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Mon May 11, 2015 7:52 am

The hAP lite is much faster than the 951-2n in my experience.
i hope that

because viewing the performance charts looks worrying that 941 at 650 mhz will be slower than 9512n at 400mhz, looks like smips architecture has lower ipc than mipsbe
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun May 17, 2015 2:19 am

Oh my God!

hAP = 2.4 ГГц, MIMO 2x2, 802.11n (b/g/n) + 650 MHz + 100Mbit + PoE (in/out) + USB
hAP ac lite = 2.4 ГГц, MIMO 2x2, 802.11n (b/g/n) + 5 ГГц, 1 канал, 802.11ac + 650 MHz + 100Mbit + PoE (in/out) + USB
hAP ac = 2.4 ГГц, MIMO 2x2, 802.11n (b/g/n) + 5 ГГц, 3 канала, 802.11ac + 720 MHz + 1000Mbit + PoE (in/out) + USB + SFP

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Re: hAP lite

Sun May 17, 2015 5:10 am

Oh my God!

hAP = 2.4 ГГц, MIMO 2x2, 802.11n (b/g/n) + 650 MHz + 100Mbit + PoE (in/out) + USB
hAP ac lite = 2.4 ГГц, MIMO 2x2, 802.11n (b/g/n) + 5 ГГц, 1 канал, 802.11ac + 650 MHz + 100Mbit + PoE (in/out) + USB
hAP ac = 2.4 ГГц, MIMO 2x2, 802.11n (b/g/n) + 5 ГГц, 3 канала, 802.11ac + 720 MHz + 1000Mbit + PoE (in/out) + USB + SFP

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any model with at least 64mb ram?
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun May 17, 2015 1:32 pm

Lalang2...why are you citing previous mail with this big picture ? Don't you think that your question could be enough ? I think that we all remeber what we have seen 2 inches above.
 
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Sun May 17, 2015 7:24 pm

Oh my God!

hAP = 2.4 ГГц, MIMO 2x2, 802.11n (b/g/n) + 650 MHz + 100Mbit + PoE (in/out) + USB
hAP ac lite = 2.4 ГГц, MIMO 2x2, 802.11n (b/g/n) + 5 ГГц, 1 канал, 802.11ac + 650 MHz + 100Mbit + PoE (in/out) + USB
hAP ac = 2.4 ГГц, MIMO 2x2, 802.11n (b/g/n) + 5 ГГц, 3 канала, 802.11ac + 720 MHz + 1000Mbit + PoE (in/out) + USB + SFP


any model with at least 64mb ram?

rb951-2n last shipments had 64mb of ram

I think hAP will be 64mb of ram nice replacement of 951-2n plus poe output, usb and dual chain to solve anemic wifi problem of 951-2n

I think hAP ac lite will be a tremendous disappointment because its single chain radio on 5ghz.

Finally hAP AC will be a disrupting AP on the market (if the price its rigth), its like the 951g plus poe output, 5ghz 3 chain radio and sfp port, a total swiss knife machine.

The problem its the date, 3q of 2015 hmm comming late to the party
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue May 19, 2015 10:38 pm

Just bought hAP lite because it is like a magnet when I purchasing a RB2011 to replace RB951G because upgrading internet to fiber. For around $20 i can't pass the deal. Anyway, it is a great device for the price, although many feature is still missing. The only problem is Wireless Performance, only covering like one room at best and relatively poor wireless performance.

I can't wait to replace all my RB951G and a RB2011 with hAP AC just because of the AC radio. Any idea what is the price range? I hoping it is same with RB951G (which i think is quite expensive for Non AC router). Mikrotik sure is very late to enter home AC market.

My suggestion is upgrade a port on hAP AC lite to gigabit, so it can be used as AP while still maintaining maximum AC transfer speed. I bought many XiaoMi Mini Router with Wireless AC (which i believe is Mediatek chips) and performs maxed at 100Mbps. Surprisingly for price of $30 it can cover great amount of area and stable AC performance.

And I think for a Home router, hAP AC don't need to include costly SFP cage and PoE out. I think better go with USB 3 ports and support for USB forwarding/Printer Host/Storage Sharing. Unless the SFP cage could be used to bypass the home gateway provided by the ISP (direct Fiber to hAP AC), I don't see the point.
 
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Wed May 20, 2015 10:10 am

It seems like a nice Router. Having RouterOS with such a low price is tempting which leads me to buy this very soon.
But before buying it, I wanted to ask few questions from those who have it already:

1. My main purpose for buying it is using "hot spot" functionality. I saw npk packages available for this new architecture and hotspot was included. but how is the performance? Good enough for max 10 users with limited speed and total bandwidth?

2. since enabling hotspot creates some files on Router's limited storage (html files, etc), am i gonna have problems on storage capacity?

3. Is it possible to use/create some lightly modified hotspot pages? i need to make one in my language and little more info on the page.

4. Am I gonna have storage issues after few months (growing size of default enabled logs, if any?)?

5. Looking at Product's page, I see wifi tx is 20dbm for 6mbps (21.5 considering antenna). this is impressive when compared to RB951-2n and mAP-2n which are weaker and have twice the price. Is it as impressive as it seems? no typo on product page? :D

Sorry for asking lots of questions. Thanks in advance for anyone who read this far :)
Your best bet would be to run the hotspot captive portal on another device, then bridge the wireless of the hAP to the interface of the device running the hotspot

I also got mine from a recent MUM. Quite useful as a tool you can keep in your laptop bag and power it off one of those battery packs for charging cell phones.
 
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Fri May 22, 2015 9:35 pm

Hello, I received today my first 2 Lite Router, for deploying in a home/house.
for me is a good router, but you need to think... is the cheapest mikrotik router and you can´t compare to another, and yes, it´s running RouterOS but a small version, you can do traffic shapping, but if you are asking about more functions, buy the 75x/95x....

Thank you for creating this routers, now is easiest to administrate big networks with many routers, or Metro LAN across Winbox
 
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Thu May 28, 2015 5:21 pm

Will it do VPN and custom firewall (filter, nat)?

We need a cheap router for casual remote support.
 
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Thu May 28, 2015 8:10 pm

It is working perfectly with this

You can do traffic shapping, priorities, L7, VPN (I am using one for IPSEC/L2TP client),
 
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Fri May 29, 2015 11:38 am

It is working perfectly with this

You can do traffic shapping, priorities, L7, VPN (I am using one for IPSEC/L2TP client),
The only thing I see there is lack of RAM and storage. I'm not sure how powerfull CPU is there in sense of VPN encrypting, or L7 detection, but L7 and shaping should like RAM, am I wrong? Not huge RAM, right, but I see some like 1-2 Mb free...

Anyway, if is it so good then Mikrotik would shoot himself in the foot by creating very cheap alternative that's not necessary bad for huge percent of users. I'm still waiting for ac-wifi full (not lite) version which will be the only of MT device capable of ac, of spf, of nice performance, of PoE and that should be pretty reasonable for the price.

If you ask me, I'd create wifi network with such full ac devices, just by setting up controller on something more powerfull like 2011 or 1009. If the wifi be stable it'll be killer scheme, for the price and value.

P.S. And I realy want to see some passive-PoE switches to power such a wifi network. it is kind a shame to have power-injectors only and no switches! CRS with passive PoE on all ports would be much appreciates!
 
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Fri May 29, 2015 5:46 pm

Got strange expression for this small device: it have no flash to downgrade ROS version!

Its flash storage is of 16 Mb in size, and right after start it says that only 7.5 Mb is free. So I can upload 6.28 firmware if I don't want to, say, use 6.29 (the firmware is 11,8MB in size). "Nice" feature, indeed. By the way I was able to install 6.29 by use "upgrade" feature of the device so I don't know how it used the flash for that.

I'd prefer to have some way to downgrade or upgrade firmwares.

P.S. Maybe it is somehow possible to clear flash before uploading files to it?
 
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Sat May 30, 2015 11:00 am

I'd prefer to have some way to downgrade or upgrade firmwares.
NetInstall, I think... but this isn't a good way, yes.
 
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Sun May 31, 2015 10:52 pm

Got strange expression for this small device: it have no flash to downgrade ROS version!
I think upgrades (and maybe downgrades too) are made from ram.
Just put the NPK into the main folder (instead of /flash) and there you go.
 
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Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:54 am

Got strange expression for this small device: it have no flash to downgrade ROS version!
I think upgrades (and maybe downgrades too) are made from ram.
Just put the NPK into the main folder (instead of /flash) and there you go.
May I please ask for which way can I do that? I used to use drag&drop files into Winbox window, and I suspect it goes directly into /flash.
 
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Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:41 pm

After a web update rb 941-2nd with ver. 6:28 to 6:29 router no longer works. When the starting lights on the ice ether 2 and does not reset and can not even try netinstal. Is this router can be accessed using the serial port that exists on the board and how, and what else to try?
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:12 am

I compared contents of the software and was disappointed.
What is there to be disappointed. It is a small device with little RAM. Do you miss NTP server on a home router? Than you can always chose RB951Ui-2HnD
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As Caci99 say:
It have 32MB RAM and only 16MB NAND. There is no space for LCD, NTP server, Calea, multicast and others...
It is low cost wifi router for home use. Only $21.95 !
If you need - there is RB951Ui or RB951G

if you need NTP
you can always use SNTP client ( system/SNTPclient)
There you can specify which ntp sever you need.
Hope this helps..
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:25 am

So, more flash and RAM would be great help for everyone, including home users who won't care for any technical details. Just in case next upgrade will be too big to fix into free flash space.

By the way, why I see 77 MiB free out of 16 Mib with no files on flash at all? I suspect that I see only directory that is devoted to user uploaded files (and the remaining space is used to store ROS somewhere outside of this "user upload" area.) but this way it is really hard to predict how much free space be there after the next ROS upgrade.

P.S. If it is possible to connect external USB flash as storage? Is it possible then to use it to store Upgrade ROS image?
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:32 am

I am saying for years that 32MB is not enough for 6.x. But mikrotik still produces new and new devices with 32MB ram. They rather make new architecture ROS fork and create a special new winbox in order to make it working without flash - for hAP - than use at least 64MB RAM and avoid many pain that users have to sustain.

ROS does not allow to use external drive as installation source. It even do not allow to put a metarouter image on it, if I remember well...
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:38 am

One of he most common mistakes of a beginner RouterOS user, is to install all the packages. You don't need even half of them.
You don't even need the routing package, it is only for OSPF/BGP, and home user doesn't need it on the hAP.

- LCD package is not needed for ANY RouterBOARD because they don't support the parallel port LCD modules that the package is made for.
- NTP package is needed only to run the server.
- you can't use CALEA on the hAP because it doesn't support external drives
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:59 am

One of he most common mistakes of a beginner RouterOS user, is to install all the packages. You don't need even half of them.
You don't even need the routing package, it is only for OSPF/BGP, and home user doesn't need it on the hAP.

- LCD package is not needed for ANY RouterBOARD because they don't support the parallel port LCD modules that the package is made for.
- NTP package is needed only to run the server.
- you can't use CALEA on the hAP because it doesn't support external drives
Something that needed to be written in bold font on Download page, isn't it?

Is is also may be wise to rename extra packages like LCD or NTP to some prefixed name (like "extra-NTP") so it may be easy differentiate them from built-in ones.

I know a guy who used to install "extra" packages over every new device it handle for his believe that external modules are "better written" and thus better at work that "internal". Silly, but he just love to install everything he can and after that to disable half of them.

I write this so maybe you do consider to explain these thins on your site and not just in a single thread on forum? For me as a customer it is a tricky to find out what are these extra packages and if I should care to download them, really.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:02 am

what is 'default' and what is 'extra' depends on the device. RB750 may not need Wireless, but others do need it.
for standard operation of a router without wireless - only the system package is needed.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:11 am

One of he most common mistakes of a beginner RouterOS user, is to install all the packages. You don't need even half of them.
You don't even need the routing package, it is only for OSPF/BGP, and home user doesn't need it on the hAP.

- LCD package is not needed for ANY RouterBOARD because they don't support the parallel port LCD modules that the package is made for.
- NTP package is needed only to run the server.
- you can't use CALEA on the hAP because it doesn't support external drives
This is not my case. I install always only the packages I need. I also do not understand why mikrotik preinstalls the not necessary packages during the manufacturing process and just disables them. There should be only packages advanced tools, dhcp, security, system and wireless-fp (if applicable) installed on the newly distributed devices and let the users to install additional packages if they need. But it is not so normally.

Above that I need only PPP mostly. And with this package combination the 32MB of ram is just not enough manytimes.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:12 am

what is 'default' and what is 'extra' depends on the device. RB750 may not need Wireless, but others do need it.
for standard operation of a router without wireless - only the system package is needed.
So why are you not selling the devices like that?
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:13 am

One of he most common mistakes of a beginner RouterOS user, is to install all the packages. You don't need even half of them.
You don't even need the routing package, it is only for OSPF/BGP, and home user doesn't need it on the hAP.

- LCD package is not needed for ANY RouterBOARD because they don't support the parallel port LCD modules that the package is made for.
- NTP package is needed only to run the server.
- you can't use CALEA on the hAP because it doesn't support external drives
This is not my case. I install always only the packages I need. I also do not understand why mikrotik preinstalls the not necessary packages during the manufacturing process and just disables them. There should be only packages advanced tools, dhcp, security, system and wireless-fp (if applicable) installed on the newly distributed devices and let the users to install additional packages if they need. But it is not so normally.

Above that I need only PPP mostly. And with this package combination the 32MB of ram is just not enough manytimes.
Maybe the router is simply not fit for your purpose? If 32MB of RAM is not enough, you simply need a stronger device. hAP works fine for a home or small office environment, it doesn't need more than this amount of RAM.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:13 am

Here is some more info about the package functions:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Sy ... S_packages
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:22 am

Here is some more info about the package functions:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Sy ... S_packages
I'd really say it is tricky for newcomers to "feel" the way Mikrotik community member should live.

If home devices are for no-brainer setup and easy maintain afterward why not to renew site (at least for 'home' devices) so people won't need to read whole wiki (including outdated posts) to catch the idea behind ROS approach.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:33 am

Here is some more info about the package functions:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Sy ... S_packages
I'd really say it is tricky for newcomers to "feel" the way Mikrotik community member should live.

If home devices are for no-brainer setup and easy maintain afterward why not to renew site (at least for 'home' devices) so people won't need to read whole wiki (including outdated posts) to catch the idea behind ROS approach.
download package has been slightly updated to improve usability.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:39 am

I have some rb941s, they work so far good, even I am not excited by them, but for the price... This discussion about the preinstalled combined packages is quite other topic. Maybe you should reduce the content of combined packages, or stop using them at all and install only few individual packages as I suggested above.

The other thing, that for "normal home users the 32mb is enough" is partially true. But these users do not distinguish between mikrotik and tplink or asus or other "home" routers. They do not need to have mikrotik device as they do not need its versatility and feature richness. Of course, they cannot even manage it. We, who discuss here are quite different "users", dont you think?

I have read your opinions that home user do not need queues and many other things. So why such user should even buy mikrotik router if he can buy some tp-link even much cheaper than rb941?

Performance of 941 with firewall using fasttrack is really awesome, but these "home" users have to pay even for experienced installation and management of such device, so their final price for obtaining a home router is finally much higher.

Even sometimes I have other opinion to the things mikrotik does and how they are done, I am still big enthusiast and supporter of mikrotik way of life.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:51 am

I have some rb941s, they work so far good, even I am not excited by them, but for the price... This discussion about the preinstalled combined packages is quite other topic. Maybe you should reduce the content of combined packages, or stop using them at all and install only few individual packages as I suggested above.
I've just login to some 941 device I have setup for a friend of mine. I see the following packages enabled:

  • Advance Tools
  • DHCP
  • PPP
  • Security
  • System
  • Wireless-CM2
When I did such a setup on 951, I don't care if I should disable Advance Tools or Security since this is something I might find useful in a case of debug in a future.

But ok, the device says it has free RAM 9.1 MiB out of 32.0 MiB. I do disable Advance Tools, and the RAM now (after the reboot) free at 9.0 MiB out of 32 - no save at all.

What should I do more? I need PPP due to user connects via PPPoE, I also need Wireless since this is the only mean a person uses to connect.

What will I loose if I manage to disable Security and System? I have no idea, really.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:53 am

9MB is completely OK for the normal operation of the hAP lite.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:00 pm

9MB is completely OK for the normal operation of the hAP lite.
Yes is it, and mostly this is so. But as someone mentioned before if we need to work with huge sized certificates we may need more RAM. But ok, this is not the Mikrotik fault :)

But what can one disable and which functions will be disabled with it - this is the question. Security and System are good example. Please, may I ask you for an advice what happens if I disable System and what will happers if I disable Securty modules?
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:10 pm

You cannot disable system. Security only affects SSH and secure Winbox. See manual: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:System/Packages
Actually uninstall could be better than just disable. Will also free some space.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:15 pm

You cannot disable system. Security only affects SSH and secure Winbox. See manual: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:System/Packages
Actually uninstall could be better than just disable. Will also free some space.
Just tried, but it says I can not uninstall bundled package (which is reasonable). I'd love to so save some flash, but...

Ok, I've just disabled Security as well, and now see 9.4 MiB free )
 
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Exactly. Combined package is a great fault. You need to update or downgrade by separate packages to get rid of combined package.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:17 pm

Yes, to get rid of the bundle, next time you upgrade to a new version, do it by hand, using only the "extra packages" zip file, and upload only "system" + what you need
 
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Yes, to get rid of the bundle, next time you upgrade to a new version, do it by hand, using only the "extra packages" zip file, and upload only "system" + what you need
1) Just to check my mind: if I get "extra" zip, upload only "system", and reboot the device, the flash will be free from "main" solid image completely?

2) And if I add System, PPP, Wireless - I suppose to have much more flash free that I have now with solid standart image?

3) But the to do the upgrade I'll nedd todo that by hands every time, right? The update system won't download the same packages as already installed one by one?

4) Is there any way I can combine needed packages from "extra" to have one solid custom image? I need that to upgrade several APs at once.
 
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1. yes
2. yes
3. no, once you do this once by hand, next time auto upgrade will update only packages you have
4. no
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:43 pm

1. yes
Just tried. No good at all, the device image stay intact. Any trick that I forgot?
 
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you need a newer version. uploading current version will give result "already installed"
 
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you need a newer version. uploading current version will give result "already installed"
Do you have version archive so I can get older version for my device, downgrade it, the upload "system" from newer (current) version so I reach the same result without waiting for the next version :)

I ask about this also since it is quite uncomfortably to keep old ROS versions locally just "in case" if new one won't be good as intended.
 
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Can confirm this works. I've downgraded my router to 6.28 (which I found in the recent downloads on PC), then uploaded 6.29.1 system module only and after the reboot I got nicely stripped version of firmware. Thanks!

P.S.This should be a help for many users )
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:05 pm

Just in case: I see no separate package for CAPsMAN 2 for 941/hLite device. Is there any way to connect them to CAPsMAN 2 controller?

I wasn't planned that but as I have CAPsMAN 2 scheme in my lab and now got brand new 941 in hands I decided to compare how it doing in controlled network - and no luck here due to absence of the package itself. My it be available one day for smips architecture?
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:34 pm

wireless-cm2 package is in the hAP lite by default
it is also inside the all-packages.zip file (or "extra packages" on our download page)
 
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wireless-cm2 package is in the hAP lite by default
it is also inside the all-packages.zip file (or "extra packages" on our download page)
Yes, it is so, but I see no "CAP" button in CAPsMAN window when wireless-cm2 is installed. Without wireless-cm2 there is no CAPsMAN link in menu at all. At the same time I see "Manager" button in that window, so it looks like this device can only be controller, which is silly idea to believe ).

By the way, is there any way to check if it is CAPsMAN v2 or v1 package on any given device. In 941 I can see "2" in the package name but if I login to the RB device and see CAPsMAN in menu, how can I tell if it v2 or v1 enabled router?
 
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do you use Webfig, Winbox or console? make sure you don't have multiple wireless packages installed at once
 
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do you use Webfig, Winbox or console? make sure you don't have multiple wireless packages installed at once
Winbox only, and I have only system, ppp, dhcp and winreless modules enabled. There is no second wireless module of any kind. Should I supply screenshots? I've just disconnected the router but I'll start it again if any.
 
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wireless is the wrong package, you need wireless-cm2. Yes, please post a screenshot
 
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Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:37 pm

I was given this unit at MUM Australia last month. Janis told me it costs $22. Cheap was the first word that came to my mind.

I had to temporarily put it on my home network while my RB493G was out of action due to a bad power supply. I was really surprised to see it handles my home traffic fine. Even at only 5 volts.

I think it is a perfect tool in my travel bag...
 
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:56 am

wireless is the wrong package, you need wireless-cm2. Yes, please post a screenshot
Sorry, I was wrong. I was seeking 'CAP' button in CAPsMAN window while it was in Wireless (of course!).

As to me, CAPsMAN item used to mess my mind as I see both CAPsMAN and Wireless near each other ) I used to treat CAPsMAN as another "operation mode" for wireless (which is semi-right), so I tends to think that "connect CAP to CAPsMAN should be located under CAPsMAN".

Thanks, works great!
 
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:54 pm

MIkrotik would not produce ADSL product but I will realy like to see some.
Hate to have 2 devices ADSL(bridge) + Mikrotik at client place.
Or at least some Small POE powered VDSL modems, it seems there is not a POE DSL modem, maybe they're to power hungry for that?

I have 2 Huawei HG612's one doing VDSL and one doing ADSL, the damn things are bigger than the RB450G they connect to :lol:
 
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:34 pm

Just bought a brand new 941-2nd and updated it to the latest 6.29.1. And now have a two questions.

1) First, I'd tried to set port forwarding for uTorrent client. DHCP and UPNP are off, I did everything as it prompted by numerous instructions (via setting according UDP and TCP rules in 'ip'-'firewall'-'nat'), however torrent warns me that port is not open. Than I'd turned on UPNP and incoming connection start to work. After that, I'd cloned dummy rules (which are absolutely was the same I'd created by hands), turn off UPNP and torrent port become unavailable again. (Actually, rules was cloned in Winbox via 'Copy' button). Interesting, that UDP rule packet counter increasing and TCP ones freezes at zero. I'd tried to play with firewall filter rules, but unsuccessfully. Can you suggest me where to move further?

2) This might to seems silly, but is it possibly to switch off wireless part? If I disable 'wlan1' and 'local-bridge' interfaces, would it be enough to switch off hardware radio part?
 
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:51 pm

1) what rule did you use for this dst-nat??

2) in interface menu just disable wlan interface
 
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:34 pm

1) OK, here is it for TCP (same for UDP, the only differences in 'protocol' field):
chain: dstnat
Dst. Address: 10.xxx.x.xx (provider given)
Protocol: 6 (tcp)
Dst. Port: 54800
Action: dst-nat
To Addresses: 192.168.88.12
To Ports: 54800

2) Disabling wlan only seems is not enough as I still can see my wireless network name in the list of available WiFi from my notebook. (Though, it is not possible to actually connect to it.) But if I'm disabling also 'local-bridge' (which is tied to wlan AFAIK), my SSID disappears from local wireless networks list. My final goal is to switch off transmitter physically, not only make it unavailable to connect to.
 
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:40 pm

1) Providers IP is private range also, so your ISP also have NAT somewhere, so that might be issue - double NAT. You need to get Public IP or ask your ISP tu DST-NAT a port range to you. (like 100 ports)

2) try to chagne SSID and check if for any chance both (old and new) SSID is in your list.
If you see both your laptop have problems with refreshing the list or you have other AP with your old SSID somewhere.
 
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:16 pm

1) Provider had promised static and globally available IP. But that's not the point. If I turning on UPNP, port becomes open. The problem is obviously on router side.
2) I tried to refresh the list of available wireless networks a number of times. Look, the whole sequence:

All interfaces on -> SSID on the list, can be connected to
wlan off -> SSID still visible, but pop error on connect
local-bridge off -> SSID disappears from list

And no other AP with or without the same SSID still around.
 
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:37 pm

UPnP doesn't do anything mystical - in dst-nat you will be able to see what dynamic rules it creates, just compare them to your rules.

I just checked same with my hAp lite, and was not able to see such problem
 
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Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:05 pm

In first message I stated that I'd finally copied those rules from dynamically created (i.e. UPNP created) 'dummy' ones. Via button 'Copy' in Winbox. And had checked many times it identical in content. And UDP version of rules seems working (packet counter grows up).

BTW, which soft version is on your box? Is it 941-2nd?
 
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I'm having an issue with my hap lite. It appears to be very sensitive to power issues. Whenever power is restored and the UPS switches back from battery to mains, the wifi on the hap lite stops working properly. Nothing else connected to the UPS is affected (computer doesn't reboot. DSL modem doesn't restart, etc). The hap's log shows nothing strange, it doesn't restart or anything. BUT after mains is restored, all devices connected by wifi drop the wifi connection and doesn't reconnect. When manually trying to connect an iPhone again to the wifi, I am asked for a password (even though the stored password is correct and worked a few seconds ago) and then, after entering the password, I get "Incorrect Password". All my devices and computers do this. I disabled en re-enabled the wlan1 wireless interface but the "Incorrect password" problem still persist. So far I've only found two ways to fix the problem. Clicking "Reset Configuration" on wlan1 and redoing the wifi configuration is one way that works. The other way is to completely remove power and reconnect it.
I can understand that there might be some strange power artefact when the UPS switches back to mains (even though nothing else is affected), but I find it strange that only the wifi stops working on the hap.

I'm going to try using an iPhone charger's USB instead of the factory supplied power adapter tomorrow and report back.
 
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Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:10 am

In first message I stated that I'd finally copied those rules from dynamically created (i.e. UPNP created) 'dummy' ones. Via button 'Copy' in Winbox. And had checked many times it identical in content. And UDP version of rules seems working (packet counter grows up).

BTW, which soft version is on your box? Is it 941-2nd?
I had 6.30rc13 at the time of the test with wireless-cm2 package.
your NAT observations are mystery to me, sorry! :)
 
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Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:50 pm

Anyone tried this hAP lites already?

We have tried 2 units within CAPS mode, CAPSMAN on RB951G-2HnD all running V6.29.1 (with wireless-cm2) and the results of the hAP lite were as terrible as the RB751U plaged units RB751G-2HnD: very unstable wireless connectivity

Results:
Lots of Latency spikes up to 10seconds or more
Throughput depending on latency on average 1Mbit/s

We repeated the test with another RB951G-2HnD unit as CAP-Client with exactly the same CAP configuration and all tests fine. (using 2 SSID's, 1 untagged, other tagged with EAP)

Results:
Steady latency of 2-3milliseconds
Stable throughput maxed out at 30Mbit/s down and 3Mbit/s up (the configured throughput maximum for our test)

Anyone being able to share his/her results?
 
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Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:56 pm

I had 6.30rc13 at the time of the test with wireless-cm2 package.
your NAT observations are mystery to me, sorry! :)
If you face a serious trouble, mostly it means the reason of it simply stupid. My provider actually gives me a local IP instead of static. All ports were closed all the time on incoming traffic. :shock: uTorrent network state detection obviously working incorrectly by showing open port when it was actually closed. That's misleads me from real trouble source. Thanks anyway for your kindness and willingness to help.
 
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Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:42 pm

I'm having an issue with my hap lite. It appears to be very sensitive to power issues. Whenever power is restored and the UPS switches back from battery to mains, the wifi on the hap lite stops working properly. Nothing else connected to the UPS is affected (computer doesn't reboot. DSL modem doesn't restart, etc). The hap's log shows nothing strange, it doesn't restart or anything. BUT after mains is restored, all devices connected by wifi drop the wifi connection and doesn't reconnect. When manually trying to connect an iPhone again to the wifi, I am asked for a password (even though the stored password is correct and worked a few seconds ago) and then, after entering the password, I get "Incorrect Password". All my devices and computers do this. I disabled en re-enabled the wlan1 wireless interface but the "Incorrect password" problem still persist. So far I've only found two ways to fix the problem. Clicking "Reset Configuration" on wlan1 and redoing the wifi configuration is one way that works. The other way is to completely remove power and reconnect it.
I can understand that there might be some strange power artefact when the UPS switches back to mains (even though nothing else is affected), but I find it strange that only the wifi stops working on the hap.

I'm going to try using an iPhone charger's USB instead of the factory supplied power adapter tomorrow and report back.
I tried the iPhone charger and I still have the broken wifi issue. I switched "Wireless Protocol" from "Any" to "802.11" and all my devices reconnected.
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:21 pm

Got any plans for NTP package for smips? (I mean, to have ntp *server on hap lite)
 
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Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:08 pm

Hi

I am trying to use hAP lite as CPE but I only get 2 to 3 mb download and upload
has enyone use hAP as CPE and get good trouthput
the AP I am connect hAP to is a unifi AP

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Wds link between two badly placed 941s with -70dbi signal gives me 30mbits with 60% ccq.
 
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Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:17 pm

Hi

I can't get this to Work if I setup the hAP lite as client and router it is working ok but I want to use the
DHCP server from my Wireless Network and not in hAP
Is there anyone that has set this up so when I set a computer in the wired plug on hAP I get a ip
from the DHCP server in my Wireless system and not from the hAP

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So just disable the dhcp server in hap and bridge the involved interfaces together.
 
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Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:50 am

I think it is a perfect tool in my travel bag...
That's my thoughts too. Going to buy one for this exact purpose.
 
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Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:56 pm

there is not speaker in that router so you hear the beeps when it boots? am i right?
 
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Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:08 am

I'm having high latency between 2 hAP lites. Any ideas?
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=98319


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Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:04 pm

Has one less Ethernet port, but two Wireless chains instead of One. It is also cheaper and has faster CPU.
With two chains is it possible to use the hAP lite as WLAN AP and WLAN client at the same time?

Because I would like to buy the "hAP lite" for traveling. I would like to let the hAP connect to the foreign WLAN and then connect all my devices with my own WLAN.

Thanks :-)
 
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Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:36 pm

Has one less Ethernet port, but two Wireless chains instead of One. It is also cheaper and has faster CPU.
With two chains is it possible to use the hAP lite as WLAN AP and WLAN client at the same time?

Because I would like to buy the "hAP lite" for traveling. I would like to let the hAP connect to the foreign WLAN and then connect all my devices with my own WLAN.

Thanks :-)
Noup is not possible. Radio can work in one state in one time. So if work as AP, CPE mode is disabled and cannot be used and backward.
 
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Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:31 pm

Does the hAP lite support MESH networking? I would like to setup several of these in a mesh sensor network. thanks.
 
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:08 am

Does the hAP lite support MESH networking? I would like to setup several of these in a mesh sensor network. thanks.
That is not related with hAP Lite. RouterOS support MESH topology, and is available in hAP Also. So you can use hAP lite for MESH networking. :D
 
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Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:34 pm

My hAP Lite arrived today, and I have configured it and its currently running my home ADSL link via the bridged ADSL modem on eth1. Works rather well, infact so well I am impressed considering how much it costs and it's specs.

Now I can reconfigure my RB450G and attempt to play around with vlan's and hook it to my RB260GS which arrived today too.

I think I will be buying a RB951G in coming weeks and probably a few more RB260GS/P's. You might see some questions from me on configuration of vlan, trunk, tagging between units.
 
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Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:21 am

Hi

i just got two of these units and i am have a hard time trying to set them up as remote gateways to my antamedia hotspot

could you help with the setup manual?

i will like to get the unit to be the remote gateway to a fiber modem at the remote location with that setup i will be able to display the login page from the antamedia hotspot server.


if this is not the place for this post could you tell me where it should go.

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Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:12 pm

Hi,
I have this device about a week and I must say that for this price work good but I updated it to latest version and still have problems with wifi speed.The signal I have always very good but the interne speed somethimes work great and then after some time the speed from 9000 kbps drop to 2408 kbps.I try several wifi settings but is still the same.Can you fix this isue?
Also I like to if we can give me access to rc versions because I have some problems with latest version with scripts?
 
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Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:35 am

how does the wireless signal compare with the RB951Ui-2HnD ?

hAP could be a cheaper alternative for hotel room wifi.
 
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Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:00 am

RB951Ui-2HnD has small metallic antennas inside. hAP lite has PCB antennas on the board. RB951 should have slightly better coverage, but for a hotel room, hAP Lite would be better, because it is smaller, and coverage is already more than enough. RB951Ui could be too strong for one room only.
 
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Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:55 pm

Is there hardware switch chip in hap lite, like Atheros8327 in 951G?

thanks
 
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Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:35 pm

I had to temporarily put it on my home network while my RB493G was out of action due to a bad power supply. I was really surprised to see it handles my home traffic fine. Even at only 5 volts.
I'm considering to get one for myself, but I'm still undecided because I read somewhere that wifi coverage is not so good. Can you tell me your experience?
 
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Can't spend few bucks to buy it and try? I can tell you it works fine as home Ap.
There is anything like "coverage" as wifi is bidirectional it relies on both sides together. One side single cannot ensure anything.
 
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Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:04 pm

I had to temporarily put it on my home network while my RB493G was out of action due to a bad power supply. I was really surprised to see it handles my home traffic fine. Even at only 5 volts.
I'm considering to get one for myself, but I'm still undecided because I read somewhere that wifi coverage is not so good. Can you tell me your experience?
I'm buy this a week ago. This device is small, but powerfull enough to deliver wifi on my home 200m2 (divided by 8 area with cement+stone partition). My house is 1 floor which consist of:
3 bedroom+ 1 diningroom+ 1 family/guestroom+ 3bathroom. Plafond of each area made from wood layer tripleks 3-5mm.

I also have tplink modem adsl 8960n with 5 dbi mimo antenna, the wifi signal is same power n range. My tplink n mikrotik are placed on top middle of my house at family room. These device placed on 2meters high.

So this hap lite 1.5dbi have equall power and range with tplink with 5 dbi.
Mikrotik is using enterprise device standart, but tplink using consumer device.
Good to buy this device for 21usd only, include power adapter 5v -0.7A, RouterOS Lv4.

If you want to cover larger venue, you can consider ubiquity device (unify ap) more simple setting with higher price, but not as feature complete as mikrotik.

Here is comparation ping time of: tplink 8960n vs hAP Lite on same PC Client.
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hAP lite 37% better than TPLink 8960n [emoji106]
 
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Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:46 pm

Anybody can help me i tried many time to reset i hold button for 15 second and even more but still my router redirect to hotspot even to access main ip 192.168.88.1 and also i cant ping 192.168.88.1 at all. please help me any way i can reset hap lite directly on board if reset button not work like my situation !!
to reset, do it like this:

- turn off hAP (unplug)
- push reset button and hold it
- plug power (turn on hAP)
- keep holding button until you see one of the LEDs flashing
- release button

you can also try to start holding the button right AFTER plugging power.
I did something bad and I can´t join to the routerboard. With this procedure I recover the access to my hAP lite MUMco edition :)
jejeje

Thank You Normis,
 
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New case for hAP lite.
Very NICE Mikrotik :wink:
hAP Lite RB941 2nD TC
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:35 am

Looks like the side stands are not removable. It won't look good when put horizontally on the desk. Imagine that the tough cables will not let it stand stabile. But yes, it looks nice and I like it.
 
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RB951Ui-2HnD has small metallic antennas inside. hAP lite has PCB antennas on the board. RB951 should have slightly better coverage, but for a hotel room, hAP Lite would be better, because it is smaller, and coverage is already more than enough. RB951Ui could be too strong for one room only.
Thanks Normis,

Have performed some basic tests and it is an impressive unit for the cost. Wifi is acceptable for an average house.
I am guessing it is ok to power the hAP from my main RB751U-2HnD usb port as it has been working happily?
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:23 pm

Really loving the new look on this device. All we need now is DSL capability to make it super awesome! :)
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:33 pm

A routerboard xDSL modem would be awesome! :D

Enough with that crappy modems that most ISPs give! Not to mention the fact that most of them are 'backdoored' with that TR-069 bs :P
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:15 pm

A routerboard xDSL modem would be awesome! :D
xDSL is a technology from the day before yesterday.
I don't think Mikrotik has any market prospects in this area.
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:49 pm

By that logic, fast-ethernet is a technology from the day before yesterday as well.

Does that mean that all fast-ethernet routers (like hAP Lite) do not have any market prospects? :P

In my country there isn't any real alternative to ADSL & VDSL for example.
Not all countries have cable or fiber internet access.

I really despise it when people 'downvote' feature (or hardware in this case) requests just because they don't need them personally.
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:25 pm

I really despise it when people 'downvote' feature (or hardware in this case) requests just because they don't need them personally.
I didn't mean to offend you, sorry if I did.
The reason I wrote that is not because I don't need xDSL devices personally, but because I don't really believe any vendor entering xDSL market just now can take market share large enough to justify the development effort required.
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:02 pm

I didn't mean to offend you, sorry if I did.
None taken. :) It's just that I generally don't 'downvote' (in quotes, since it wasn't really a proper feature request) stuff that I don't use or care about, unless they will interfere with my workflow. So when I see people being negative about other peoples' requests I just don't get it. Sorry if I was offensive too, I just get frustrated when this happens.

Many users have routerboards behind DSL modems as bridges and use PPPoE client to connect to the internet.
And many more new users start to adopt this setup since the modems/routers the ISPs give are really bad most of the time and routerboards are just awesome!
I have personally set up numerous routerboards with the above configuration and it works flawlessly!

So I believe Mikrotik is indirectly already in that market, it just needs a modem to attach onto a routerboard to sell it as one complete device instead of having to use the ISP's modem (which nowadays even comes with a completely locked firmware and cannot change it to bridge mode ugggh :-x ).

I am sure that many users will go for it! I know I would!
Less devices in the office/home, less cables, less power consumption and a single plane of management (aka Winbox awesomeness!).
Generally it's for the best :D
 
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Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:54 am

A routerboard xDSL modem would be awesome! :D
xDSL is a technology from the day before yesterday.
I don't think Mikrotik has any market prospects in this area.

totally agree i think gpon its much more important, of course xdsl has a millions of users but its legacy, upload speeds on adsl are very limited, even docsis 3.0 can be much better, vdsl its fast but has very low distance requeriments

i think its too late to invest on xdsl

i think its better to invest on gpon form a vendor perspective, its a techonology starting, the future its fiber

in my country all dsl installed plant are adsl 2+ anexm no vdsl on any flavors, but gpon is starting to deploy
 
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Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:47 pm

A routerboard xDSL modem would be awesome! :D
xDSL is a technology from the day before yesterday.
I don't think Mikrotik has any market prospects in this area.

totally agree i think gpon its much more important, of course xdsl has a millions of users but its legacy
+1 :)
 
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Hi,

any new news info when start sell hAP ac and hAP ac Lite ?
 
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New case for hAP lite.
Very NICE Mikrotik :wink:
hAP Lite RB941 2nD TC

Is anyone else disappointed by this? I love the hAP, but this forces it to be a vertical device, which I rarely ever see actually used -- at least not in the hundreds of users I support.

I loved the original hAP case, but this is too consumerish for my tastes. Just my opinion.
 
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Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:36 am

I do like the idea of a DSL option, but I think the odds of it happening are pretty slim. Although..... the chipsets for it are out there and -completely- developed, so maybe it would be a simple addition after all?
 
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New case for hAP lite.
Very NICE Mikrotik :wink:
hAP Lite RB941 2nD TC

Is anyone else disappointed by this? I love the hAP, but this forces it to be a vertical device, which I rarely ever see actually used -- at least not in the hundreds of users I support.

I loved the original hAP case, but this is too consumerish for my tastes. Just my opinion.
Me for example. And I wrote that already on this forum.
 
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Re: hAP lite LAN 3 green LED is always ON

Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:28 pm

The green LED of LAN 3 is always ON without using it. even after resetting the router and after installing the last ver of netinstal it still on.
Any clarification Pls.
 
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Does anyone has a problem about internet upload speed on hap lite?

My hap lite has a problem with upload timeout even on default configuration

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=95720
 
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Hi everyone!

I have a problem with my internet connection. Does HAP Lite support the PPPoE protocol (login and password)?
 
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Yes, of course. Right from the QuickSet page:
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Yes, of course. Right from the QuickSet page:
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Ok, thanks. When I'm enterring my login and password of PPPoE-connection, the "pppoe status" shows that "couldn't connect to pppoe-server". All other specifications - default.
 
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Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:15 am

Is the ISP internet cable plugged into the first port of the device?
 
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Is the ISP internet cable plugged into the first port of the device?
of course
 
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Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:03 pm

Then I suggest to contact the ISP for help. If the router can't reach the ISPs PPPoE server, while being correctly plugged in, something may be wrong on their side. PPPoE is simple to configure.
 
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Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:32 pm

Maybe I've done smth wrong? Should i take some other paragraphs or it is enough if I enter my login and password?
 
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Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:33 pm

It is interesting that old hAP lite is in archived products (with label NEW) :)
Now on market are only RB941-2nD-TC ?

Old cases will be replaced?
Why not sell both versions at the same time? Thanks
 
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Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:18 pm

I am glad I got my hands on the 'old cased' hAP!

It fits like a charm behind my laptop screen. The new design is cumbersome. :(
 
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What kind of problem is it?
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Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:58 am

I like the "old" case more than the new one. We tend to mount them in plastic boxes on a pole or pylon, and the new one is very cumbersome to work with. I also hate the netis products that "got creative" with that stupid "tower" format. It's a router, I don't wanna see it on furniture, i'd rather have it stuffed it behind on a wall.
I can see the need to have it standing vertically. Maybe a detachable stand like this one is the best answer to that problem, and mounting the led's "windows" on the edge of the case, so they're visible from side and front.
If that's not an option, hopefully the routers will be available in both formats. I definitely know which one I'm getting :)
What do you think, guys?

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Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:03 am

I am glad I got my hands on the 'old cased' hAP!

It fits like a charm behind my laptop screen. The new design is cumbersome. :(
I, for one like that he new version. They seem more stable on the desktop and in vogue. Kudos to Tik! :D
 
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Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:36 pm

I don't wanna see it on furniture, i'd rather have it stuffed it behind on a wall
One of the reasons many manufacturers go with the standing design, is to encourage people to use the device in open space, to improve your wireless signal and decrease noise. When hidden behind walls inside a metal cabinet, next to your electricity breaker, the wireless connection will not be great, and the user will just complain :)
 
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Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:37 pm

I understand.
But why do not preserve in the production of both versions hAP lite? And let users choose whether ...
 
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Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:50 pm

The new hAP Lite Tower is great !! More nice looking then prevous old style hAP. :)

@normis any news about hAP AC and RB 3011? We are tired waithing for that products.
 
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Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:47 am

Really wish they'd have both. The new one is way too consumer looking. Is that really the market here?
I thought the original hAP Lite was -perfect-.
 
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Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:30 am

Really wish they'd have both. The new one is way too consumer looking. Is that really the market here?
I always assumed hAP Lite is a pure entry-level consumer device. Cheap and with limited resources on board. And QuickSet, while not perfect, allows to quickly set it up by a non-professional in a typical consumer scenarios.

PS. New case is nice.
 
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:58 pm

One of the reasons many manufacturers go with the standing design, is to encourage people to use the device in open space, to improve your wireless signal and decrease noise. When hidden behind walls inside a metal cabinet, next to your electricity breaker, the wireless connection will not be great, and the user will just complain :)
You're right, but not everyone uses it like this :)
I use it as a "really powerful cheap managed small switch" for ip cameras, and the old design is just about perfect for this application. Anyways, I'll probably move to the 5 port version if this one is not available anymore. Hopefully you're not "up-downgrading" that one too :).
 
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Having the sphere antenna characteristics, there is no need to have the box in the standing position.
 
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Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:30 pm

Having the sphere antenna characteristics, there is no need to have the box in the standing position.
If it needs to stand, chances are, you will put it outside a wall cabinet, on a desk somewhere. Having a wall mountable unit, increases chance of use inside a metal wall cabinet, next to electricity breaker somewhere.

I already said, this is just one possible reason for this trend.
 
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Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:20 pm

How to reboot the Hap Lite?
 
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Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:52 pm

i miss the beeper
 
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Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:54 pm

On my device WLAN port works unstably with optical modem - is it know issue?
 
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Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:07 pm

We are happy to announce our new low cost home AP, the hAP lite:
http://routerboard.com/RB941-2nD

Recommended list price is $21.95
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Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:00 pm

Hi,

Could anyone recommend me a Wireless device for home usage? WiFi signal should cover approx 120m2 of a single floor in a house, with concrete walls.
I was thinking about hAP lite, but someone mentioned poor WiFi coverage and suitable to cover only a single room?
Any other suggestions?

Thanks.
 
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Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:22 pm

I'm actually really happy with the coverage, but it's probably a good idea to buy one of the APs with higher antenna gain if you're not sure. The hAP lite has ~1.5 dbi and the RB951G-2HnD / RB951Ui-2HnD ~2.5 dbi. There's also the new wAP with 2 dbi.
 
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Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:24 pm

this difference of 1dbi from hap lite and rb951ui-2hnd means that can bypass more walls in a house? or is better in an open area?
 
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Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:51 pm

Wireless connections and walls are always problematic, but higher antenna gain can give you better results. You won't magically bypass more walls, of course. If it's possible you should just buy more APs and let the clients roam between them.
 
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Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:24 am

Hi,

I bought 5 "hAP Lite" boxes to test a while ago.

However I havent been able to test them yet, simply because I cant get the micro-usb plugged into the power socket, and since there is no PoE power option on these boxes I simply cant get them to start.

I feel like I will break the powersocket on the box if I push harder, and it just wont go in. It might be just me not applying enough force, but it doesnt take force to plug in my Mobile phone on its charger f.ex, so I didnt dare to apply anymore force.

I also tested on more boxes in case it was just the first that could have had an defect on the socket, but same problem with all 5.......

Has any1 else had this problem???

Can this be a productionbatch with bad usb powersockets, or am I simply to stupid( :mrgreen: ) to get it powered? :lol:

It hasnt been a big problem for me (Henche why I havent asked until now), since I normally are using hAP and 951Ui-2HnD. But sometimes suppliers are out of stock and/or some customers also just need a very simple AP so thought id check them out.
And its a bit sad that they just sit on the shelf collecting dust now, so thought Id ask!
 
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I have few hap lite devices without any problems with power plug. For poe you can use step down converter to 5v easily.
 
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Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:39 pm

Hello. Have anyone tested WIFI speed? I tried two phones and got 16-18 Mbps download. Connection speed was 50-60 Mbit / 20 MHz. And how to get the channel width 40 MHz?
 
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Wifi speed is way much faster than the ethernets can reach. Reaching 100mbits throughput constantly over wifi.
 
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Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:03 am

Blowhard :-)
 
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Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:09 pm

I also have a problem with speed but then I try some better wi-fi usb adapter no problem with speed anymore.All I can say it is a great router for home use.True that I have some problems with quick setup(I use pppoe connections) when I use netinstall but maybae is a bug in software because when I setup it I can connect but the bridge to the ports not working.
Maybe It would be a good idea to add more options to quick set like chose dns hosts because the most problems is with not working scripts.
 
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Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:48 pm

Blowhard :-)
Not at all. You are not able to reach it too? I see it normally when backups run, for example. Quite common situation.
 
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:05 am

For me, I think hAP lite is a perfectly suitable for on-the-road needs, more than for a household with more demands that are likely to stretch its capacity. Viewed in this way, standing up does no more useful purposes than 'sitting down' of the original case.

As for being the traffic cop at home, I'd have thought it requires more crunching power than a hAP lite can deliver with reasonable performance if you demand more of the home traffic cop. While I can also see a hAP lite may be more than adequate for a single person household. I mean no disrespect.

(speaking under a consumer-oriented hat). Cheers
 
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For me, I think hAP lite is a perfectly suitable for on-the-road needs, more than for a household with more demands that are likely to stretch its capacity. Viewed in this way, standing up does no more useful purposes than 'sitting down' of the original case.
mAP 2n is much-much better for on-the-road needs. The only advantage of hAP lite is it's price tag, but I doubt that would be a deciding factor for an average frequent traveler.
 
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:17 pm

I was given an hAP Lite at last MUM in Melbourne and did not know about mAP2n specs at all. So thanks for that info. Cheers.
 
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Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:40 am

mAP2N is "Lite" version from hAP Lite.. So performances on hAP Lite and mAP2N is not equal. Note that !
 
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Got one Hap lite. Before that was simple pci 100mbit lan-card. You can see internet service provider`s settings from the first pic of the attached files.

This internet service provider refer certain MAC addresses to OpenDNS and static IP-adressess. I`ve called to them and they matched Hap lite`s ether1 mac-adress on their system.

Then I setuped Hap Lite using Winbox. You can see setup process on the pictures of the attached files.

After that as You can see I got internet-connection and internal network bridge.

All was OK and after 2-3 hours Hap lite stop giving away the internet while the connection with it was OK.

Turned on PC and launched Winbox I connected with Hap Lite and rebooted it. As you can see on the last of attached pictures it was not helpful.

The only solution was to use Hap-Lite`s ether1 mac-address with my PCI-lan card (lan-card picture), then I got DNS and external IP. Put back internet service provider`s wire to Hap Lite ether1 I got internet, but the story repeated again after 2-3 hours.
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pautinqch,

I guess you have to configure DHCP-client on your WAN (ether1) port. Chances are you have to do that even if your IP address never changes (i.e. "static"). It looks like your ISP blocks any traffic from you as soon as DHCP lease (which you obtained when connected your PC directly to your ISP's cable) expires, unless DHCP-client asks to renew the lease.
 
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Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:47 pm

hi , i want to limit the speed and traffic of my wireless users (4 user), does this model can ?

i hear that this model does not support user manager, is it true ?
 
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Speed limit is question of queues so no need for userman.
 
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Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:26 pm

Speed limit is question of queues so no need for userman.


thx , what is about limit traffic ? i want to limit internet download and upload for each user , for example user A could use 1 gig traffic for each month and user B 1.5 gig and...
 
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Ok. For this case you would need userman. Look for some other (not smips) routerboard.
 
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Ok. For this case you would need userman. Look for some other (not smips) routerboard.
Can use integrated traffic per user in Hotspot without user menager. :)

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In bytres total only need to enter traffic per user and reset counters monthly.
 
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Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:21 pm

Hi,

is the hAP lite enough powerful for internet link 50Mbit/s / 5Mbit/s used by the five home users?

Thank you in advance.
 
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Hi,

is the hAP lite enough powerful for internet link 50Mbit/s / 5Mbit/s used by the five home users?

Thank you in advance.

ohh yes

keep in mind a too complex configuration can change the situation
 
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Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:38 am

Is it possible in RouterOS that I will create two vpn clients (e.g. openvpn) for only two individual users? The rest of the users should use the standard route.
 
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Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:17 pm

Hello
I brought RB941-2n.
But I noticed that I cannot connect with some (cheap) phones and tablets.
I’m not sure about the reason but there is an issue with this board and some phones.
 
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Hello
I brought RB941-2n.
But I noticed that I cannot connect with some (cheap) phones and tablets.
I’m not sure about the reason but there is an issue with this board and some phones.
RouterOS 6.32.3 ? Wlan 2GHz-B/G/N, 20/40MHz ?
 
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Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:07 pm

Change to 20 MHz only and see the difference! Some phones dont understand 40 MHz. ;)
 
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Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:11 pm

Change to 20 MHz only and see the difference! Some phones dont understand 40 MHz. ;)
Also if you are in Europe or somewhere that allows the use of channels 12,13 make sure you're not actually using them, some devices forget that not everywhere prohibits their use.

HP stream7 comes to mind here but there's plenty more than that.
 
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Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:06 am

dannym, what country setting and center frequency you have specified?
Are you using wireless security? If yes make sure that you have enabled only AES and not TKIP.
 
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Thank you. I selected Latvia, and automatic frequency, also WPA2 Security, I unchecked TKIP, and now everything seems to be perfect. Thanks :)
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:32 pm

Hey.I hawe an interesting problem with hAP lite new model(RB941-2nD-TC), the old models that were lying on the desktop, mangle rules and queue tree are working properly and that great. On the new model , stand upright ,can not to configure my queue tree correctly. I tried upgrade to new sw and os v3.24, but nothing helps. Normis please help, or anyone. :D :?
 
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On the new model , stand upright ,can not to configure my queue tree correctly.
Just remove fasttrack rules from your firewall configuration.
 
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I dont have fasttrack rules.It is crazy but simple queue and queue tree wont work.
 
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No one have any problems with new model?(RB941-2nD-TC)??
 
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Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:32 am

Hi guys,

I've had the hAP lite RouterBOARD 941-2nD unit up and running for about two days. ROS 6.34rc27, firmware 3.29, no extra packages installed. Basic config 1xWAN, 1xSSID, NAT, 1xOVPN, nothing fancy.

The issue is it has spontaneously rebooted several times already. Last ones being:
dec/30/2015 01:20:26 system,error,critical System rebooted because of kernel failure
dec/30/2015 01:20:26 system,error,critical Out of memory condition was detected
dec/30/2015 01:20:26 system,error,critical router was rebooted without proper shutdown
dec/30/2015 09:28:27 system,error,critical router was rebooted without proper shutdown by watchdog timer
I kept an eye on free memory and it usually fluctuates between 7-10MB. Can't imagine how to improve this situation other than by removing three disposable base packages (hotspot, ipv6, mpls - requires netinstall fashioned reinstall).

I have an OVPN server + certificate installed, though not actively used yet. This could eventually be blamed for extra memory consumption. What really annoys me though is an error message coming like once every hour telling CRL update failed due to low memory. I wonder, is there any option to disable CRL updates? If not, why not? They're pre determined to fail on low resource devices like this anyway.

Will try to remove certificates first and observe the unit for a while. If it crashes then disable OVPN server and observe again.

The router, under normal circumstances, shouldn't struggle to record uptime better than 8 hours, right? I am not stressing it at all, quite contrary it is idling for most of the time.

Cheers,
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+1 for NTP server extra package. It can't be that resource hungry, can be? Negligible peanuts.
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To Engineers @ Mikrotik ... +10 to "respect" for layout routing :-) :-)
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:45 am

On ROS 6.3.3, After resetting the configuration in winbox, i couldn't get the default configuration.
The only way to have it it's using netinstall.
Is this feature missing in 6.33.3 ?

Thanks
 
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Update to my previous post. I have netinstalled ROS 6.34rc30, excluding unneeded packages, replaced regular certificates with self-signed one to avoid CRL errors.

No spontaneous reboots or erratic behavior since then. With OVPN server on. That's promising shift.

Free RAM 8.4MB, free storage 7.6MB.
 
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Why does not update its IP router Claude.
Do you have a problem router server.
Please help me.
 
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IP router Claude himself two days ago has not updated
 
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Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:07 pm

I need help please advise
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:08 pm

Do router server is disabled
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:09 pm

Has anyone checked if the new RB-941-2nd-tc also have option for metarouter removed in winbox. I have ordered mine and still waiting for it to arrive so can't check jet.
I know that flash and ram are limited on this one. But for basic openwrt 3MB of flash and 8mb ram is enough.
And since router OS will be taking care of the WiFi I can even drop wifi encyptions and everything related to WiFi.
 
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Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:36 pm

Don't expect you can run metarouter on hap lite.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:12 pm

@rrwakc: no metarouter option is available in Winbox for RB-941-2nd-tc. I checked with my unit. It's also been mentioned earlier in this thread iirc.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:14 am

@rrwakc: no metarouter option is available in Winbox for RB-941-2nd-tc. I checked with my unit. It's also been mentioned earlier in this thread iirc.
That post was for the older version(without -tc) and I was hoping they changed it for the new version.
I wanted to be able to create a travel router replacemnt for my wr703N including with the elinks browser installed for keeping hotspot sessions open.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:43 pm

@rrwakc ok, i see. I wasn't really aware of any differences other than case/housing design. My unit has -tc printed on the sticker and doesn't have metarouter router option. The router can have 6MB or less free RAM during normal/light operation, so not really any head room for advanced stuff I am afraid.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:29 am

What is the best setup for wifi on the HAP Lite?

I have two of them running as CAP device but i have issues with the wireless connections and i`m not sure what to enable and what not

Do in need to enable HT RX Chain / HT TX Chain ?

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=103701
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:16 am

Congratulations Mikrotik! You've managed to sell me on plastic cases. I love how easily the hAP series devices disassemble. 10 seconds with a thin metal spudger and you're in. No hidden snap-clips to break, no screws into plastic (ugh!), there's adequate ventilation and wall-mount slots. I laughed when I saw how you took the hAP casing and turned it into a hAP-lite with creative sticker use. Your $30 (Canadian pesos) router has better physical design than my $80 Linksys that I'll be replacing soon.

Edit: Apparently my HAP-lite is old stock and I just found a picture online of the -tc variant. Wow. That is an ugly piece of kit. Sorry Mikrotik, I don't buy the "users complain if they're dumb" argument. I hate it when companies stop selling me products I want to buy in the name of protecting me from my own stupidity.

Keep up the industrial design. Not all of us want expensive unventilated unservicable turds that can't be wall mounted that "look at home in the living room".

I'm curious about the unpopulated headers on the RB941-2nD.

There are two four-pin headers LD204 and LD205 which I presume are for LEDs. /system leds only has the one controllable LED in it though. So do these headers work (Could I solder on additional LEDs?), and if so is there a way to make RouterOS aware of them?

I also see a four-pin header marked TX, RX, 3V3 and GND, which looks a lot like an rs232 header. Again, if I was to solder pins to this is the board physically capable of driving an rs232 port, and if so would it be possible to enable it in RouterOS for general use or console access to the OS?

(I will probably never do either of these things, but the curious nerd in me wants to know)
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:11 pm

Hi

I'm also curious about the tx rx 3v3 gnd. I bought two 941 2nd tc and tried to upgrade both to 6.33.5. One upgraded without a problem, the other did not - it's not accessible, im unable to reset it and can't get it to work with netinstall. The led's blink as supposed to, but when it should be in netinstall mode - nothing happens.
I thought I give serial connection a try - but i would appreciate confirmation that these headers are for rs232.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:29 pm

Anybody can help me i tried many time to reset i hold button for 15 second and even more but still my router redirect to hotspot even to access main ip 192.168.88.1 and also i cant ping 192.168.88.1 at all. please help me any way i can reset hap lite directly on board if reset button not work like my situation !!
to reset, do it like this:

- turn off hAP (unplug)
- push reset button and hold it
- plug power (turn on hAP)
- keep holding button until you see one of the LEDs flashing
- release button

you can also try to start holding the button right AFTER plugging power.
I just bought a hAP ac router. I couldn't log into it's default IP @ and had to go through this factory-reset-like procedure... not so great first impression on a new product I'm afraid... hopefully just "bad luck"
 
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:50 pm

Use winbox and connect by mac address.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:13 pm

I just bought a hAP ac router. I couldn't log into it's default IP @ and had to go through this factory-reset-like procedure... not so great first impression on a new product I'm afraid... hopefully just "bad luck"
You are confusing MikroTik RouterOS (which is the operating system) with the Routerboard brand (which is the hardware you bought).

You can't judge the hardware based on the default configuration of the OS (which works perfectly fine btw - if you follow the instructions)
It's like judging a new laptop by the pre-installed crapware it comes with by its vendor!

Most likely you didn't follow the instructions and connected your computer on the first port which is the 'wan' port using the default configuration.

Eitherway, doing a netinstall on a brand new routerboard is standard procedure for me.
Like when buying a new laptop and re-installing Windows (or Linux) from scratch :)
 
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Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:16 am

I had never needed to netinstall new device. I always install the version I need with only selected packages that I need, remove the default config and make own configuration. No reason for netinstall unless the device is bricked or otherwise misbehaving.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:55 pm

Please bring back the old case design. The new standup case looks so silly. Also, does not wall mount well.
 
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hAP lite

Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:32 pm

I dont like also the new case
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:53 am

I just bought a hAP ac router. I couldn't log into it's default IP @ and had to go through this factory-reset-like procedure... not so great first impression on a new product I'm afraid... hopefully just "bad luck"
You are confusing MikroTik RouterOS (which is the operating system) with the Routerboard brand (which is the hardware you bought).

You can't judge the hardware based on the default configuration of the OS (which works perfectly fine btw - if you follow the instructions)
It's like judging a new laptop by the pre-installed crapware it comes with by its vendor!

Most likely you didn't follow the instructions and connected your computer on the first port which is the 'wan' port using the default configuration.

Eitherway, doing a netinstall on a brand new routerboard is standard procedure for me.
Like when buying a new laptop and re-installing Windows (or Linux) from scratch :)
I did follow the very simple instructions step by step :) The factory reset procedure solved the issue (did not connect to another port...). I'm not judging the HW. Actually I'm pretty satisfied with it after spending some time exploring the configurations. It's a pretty impressive small box.

I was only referring to the first experience with the new product and I'm sorry but every single time I buy HW, regardless of the nature, I expect it to work without having to go into forums to find out what's wrong. I'm not happy when my first experience with a Product that I'm not yet familiar with requires troubleshooting. I don't think anyone does.

But again, this is the only negative point I've found so far. Otherwise pretty satisfied :)
 
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Re: hAP lite

Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:19 pm

Hello, I have rb941-2nd. Is there some kind of mod to make a additional usb port for lte modem?
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:50 pm

Please bring back the old case design. The new standup case looks so silly. Also, does not wall mount well.
hAP lite's wireless is very low powered, and keeping the device vertical somewhat improves the signal. May be that's why they redesigned its' case and made it vertical.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:48 pm

hAP lite's wireless is very low powered, and keeping the device vertical somewhat improves the signal. May be that's why they redesigned its' case and made it vertical.
Not to be argumentative, but do you expect users to keep it in the right orientation? I found a seller who has the older case design, so I'm happy to be getting them.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:10 pm

It seems - old design is back :-)
http://routerboard.com/RB941-2nD
It is in current products, not in archive.

Thanks Mikrotik
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:15 pm

Vox populi, vox fabrica :) :) :)
 
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Re: hAP lite

Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:53 pm

I love the hAP Lite. It's so economical. It works great as a simple wired AP. Currently testing 2 of them in place of 1 RB951Ui-2HnD and having great results. Sadly, the lack of POE-IN is limiting if you don't have a power socket nearby. The worst thing is that all of the suppliers in my country only has the -TC so wall mounting is a bit of a pain.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Fri May 06, 2016 3:45 pm

Is it possible to implement a better antenna ? By opening and weld a 5dbi antenna for example?
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon May 09, 2016 1:50 pm

Sorry, but I no more see how post a new topic...
I have Fiber or xDSL line > RB3011 (NAT/masquerade) > Ubiquiti CPE with no problem with NAT for DVRs, hAP lite port 80.
Only port 8291 for winbox it seems impossible to access from external. I am sure, based on tests, that it's Ubiquiti that stops it, but WHY?
HAP ports setup is OK also because as default. Winbox and hAP FW last versions. Where is the stop then? Thanks to all
 
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Re: hAP lite

Mon May 09, 2016 2:01 pm

Sorry, but I no more see how post a new topic...
I have Fiber or xDSL line > RB3011 (NAT/masquerade) > Ubiquiti CPE with no problem with NAT for DVRs, hAP lite port 80.
Only port 8291 for winbox it seems impossible to access from external. I am sure, based on tests, that it's Ubiquiti that stops it, but WHY?
HAP ports setup is OK also because as default. Winbox and hAP FW last versions. Where is the stop then? Thanks to all
You can't make topics in the Accouncement section. Please make a new topic in one of the other sections
 
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HELP!!!! Re: hAP lite

Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:40 pm

Good morning, I am new with respect to Mikrotik, and bought a HAP-2nd RB941-TC Lite and I've tried everything to make it work with 2 Wan ports and a Lan and Wifi. Follow various procedures router configuration-OS and everything seems ok, but does not work the 2 wan ports. Someone with this model managed to configure 2 wan ports with fail-over or loadbalance?
 
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Re: HELP!!!! Re: hAP lite

Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:56 pm

Good morning, I am new with respect to Mikrotik, and bought a HAP-2nd RB941-TC Lite and I've tried everything to make it work with 2 Wan ports and a Lan and Wifi. Follow various procedures router configuration-OS and everything seems ok, but does not work the 2 wan ports. Someone with this model managed to configure 2 wan ports with fail-over or loadbalance?
please be more specific as to what kind of problem you are facing when configure multi-wan
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:02 pm

Remove the ports from switch / bridge to have them alone. Otherwise you cannot use them independently as wan ports.
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:18 pm

Remove the ports from switch / bridge to have them alone. Otherwise you cannot use them independently as wan ports.
In Switch, all ports are whith state as: "vlan mode disabled" and the bridge is the Wireless whith the Lan. 
 
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Re: HELP!!!! Re: hAP lite

Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:44 pm

Good morning, I am new with respect to Mikrotik, and bought a HAP-2nd RB941-TC Lite and I've tried everything to make it work with 2 Wan ports and a Lan and Wifi. Follow various procedures router configuration-OS and everything seems ok, but does not work the 2 wan ports. Someone with this model managed to configure 2 wan ports with fail-over or loadbalance?
please be more specific as to what kind of problem you are facing when configure multi-wan

is configured on eth1 (wan) with the name of 01net, eth2 (lan) with 02lan in bridge with the wlan, eth3 (wan2) as 03gvt and eth4 (not used) as ether4. It turns out that when the wan 01net falls, users no longer have internet access over the wan 03gvt even though on the routes the pcc
 
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Re: hAP lite

Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:03 pm

my export here: 

[admin@MikroTik] > export
# jun/16/2016 15:36:39 by RouterOS 6.35.4
# software id = Y6T3-ZYUP
#
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=E4:8D:8C:DD:BF:D2 auto-mac=no comment=defconf name=bridge
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] band=2ghz-b/g/n channel-width=20/40mhz-Ce country=brazil disabled=no distance=indoors frequency=auto mode=ap-bridge ssid=\
    MikroTik wireless-protocol=802.11
/interface ethernet
set [ find default-name=ether1 ] name=01net
set [ find default-name=ether2 ] name=02lan
set [ find default-name=ether3 ] name=03gvt
/ip neighbor discovery
set "01net" discover=no
set bridge comment=defconf
/interface ethernet switch port
set 0 default-vlan-id=1
set 2 default-vlan-id=2
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] authentication-types=wpa-psk,wpa2-psk mode=dynamic-keys wpa-pre-shared-key=1566650310 wpa2-pre-shared-key=234523543
/ip pool
add name=dhcp ranges=10.1.1.3-10.1.1.254
add name=vpn ranges=192.168.89.2-192.168.89.255
/ip dhcp-server
add address-pool=dhcp disabled=no interface=bridge name=defconf src-address=10.1.1.3
/ppp profile
set *FFFFFFFE local-address=192.168.89.1 remote-address=vpn
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=02lan
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=wlan1
/interface l2tp-server server
set enabled=yes ipsec-secret=dsdfgsdfgsg0310 use-ipsec=yes
/interface pptp-server server
set enabled=yes
/interface sstp-server server
set default-profile=default-encryption enabled=yes
/ip address
add address=10.1.1.2/24 comment=defconf interface=02lan network=10.1.1.0
add address=192.168.1.2/24 interface=03gvt network=192.168.1.0
add address=192.168.25.2/24 interface=01net network=192.168.25.0
/ip cloud
set ddns-enabled=yes
/ip dhcp-client
add comment=defconf dhcp-options=hostname,clientid interface=01net
add default-route-distance=0 dhcp-options=hostname,clientid interface=03gvt
/ip dhcp-server network
add address=10.1.1.0/24 comment=defconf gateway=10.1.1.2 netmask=24
/ip dns
set allow-remote-requests=yes servers=8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4
/ip dns static
add address=192.168.1.2 name=router
/ip firewall filter
add chain=input comment="defconf: accept ICMP" protocol=icmp
add chain=input comment="defconf: accept established,related" connection-state=established,related
add chain=input comment="allow l2tp" dst-port=1701 protocol=udp
add chain=input comment="allow pptp" dst-port=1723 protocol=tcp
add chain=input comment="allow sstp" dst-port=443 protocol=tcp
add action=drop chain=input comment="defconf: drop all from WAN" in-interface=01net
add action=fasttrack-connection chain=forward comment="defconf: fasttrack" connection-state=established,related
add chain=forward comment="defconf: accept established,related" connection-state=established,related
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop invalid" connection-state=invalid
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf:  drop all from WAN not DSTNATed" connection-nat-state=!dstnat connection-state=new in-interface=01net
/ip firewall mangle
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting comment="SITE POR LINK" connection-state=new dst-address-list=LINK0 in-interface=bridge new-connection-mark=\
    Sites0
add action=mark-routing chain=prerouting connection-mark=Sites0 in-interface=bridge new-routing-mark=Rota0 passthrough=no
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting connection-state=new dst-address-list=LINK1 in-interface=bridge new-connection-mark=Sites1
add action=mark-routing chain=prerouting connection-mark=Sites1 in-interface=bridge new-routing-mark=Rota1 passthrough=no
add action=add-dst-to-address-list address-list=ftp_con address-list-timeout=6h chain=prerouting comment="FTP FORA DO BALANCE" dst-port=21 in-interface=\
    bridge protocol=tcp
add chain=prerouting dst-address-list=ftp_con in-interface=bridge
add chain=prerouting comment="OUTRAS PORTAS FORA DO LOADBALACED" dst-port=443,5000-6999,8080 in-interface=bridge protocol=tcp
add chain=prerouting dst-port=443,5000-6999,8080 in-interface=bridge protocol=udp
add chain=prerouting comment="ACEITA REDE" dst-address=192.168.0.0/24 in-interface=bridge
add chain=prerouting dst-address=192.168.1.0/24 in-interface=bridge
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting comment="MARCA CONEXAO ENTRADA PARA VOLTAR PELO MESMO LINK" connection-state=new in-interface=01net \
    new-connection-mark=01net_conn
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting connection-state=new in-interface=03gvt new-connection-mark=03gvt_conn
add action=mark-routing chain=output connection-mark=01net_conn new-routing-mark=to_01net
add action=mark-routing chain=output connection-mark=03gvt_conn new-routing-mark=to_03gvt
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting comment="BALANCEANDO CONEXAO" connection-state=established dst-address-type=!local in-interface=bridge \
    new-connection-mark=01net_conn per-connection-classifier=both-addresses-and-ports:3/0
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting connection-state=established dst-address-type=!local in-interface=bridge new-connection-mark=01net_conn \
    per-connection-classifier=both-addresses-and-ports:3/1
add action=mark-connection chain=prerouting connection-state=established dst-address-type=!local in-interface=bridge new-connection-mark=03gvt_conn \
    per-connection-classifier=both-addresses-and-ports:3/2
add action=mark-routing chain=prerouting comment="DIRECIONA MARCACAO PARA ROTEAMENTO" connection-mark=01net_conn in-interface=bridge new-routing-mark=\
    to_01net
add action=mark-routing chain=prerouting connection-mark=03gvt_conn in-interface=bridge new-routing-mark=to_03gvt
/ip firewall nat
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat comment="defconf: masquerade" out-interface=01net
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat disabled=yes out-interface=03gvt
/ip route
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.57.1 routing-mark=Rota0
add disabled=yes distance=1 gateway=192.168.56.1 routing-mark=Rota0
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.57.1 routing-mark=Rota1
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.56.1 routing-mark=Rota1
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.57.1 routing-mark=to_01net
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.56.1 routing-mark=to_01net
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.56.1 routing-mark=to_03gvt
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.57.1 routing-mark=to_03gvt
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.56.1
add distance=2 gateway=192.168.57.1
add distance=1 dst-address=8.8.8.8/32 gateway=192.168.0.1 scope=10
add distance=20 dst-address=8.8.8.8/32 type=blackhole
add check-gateway=ping distance=1 dst-address=192.168.56.1/32 gateway=208.67.220.220 scope=10
add check-gateway=ping distance=1 dst-address=192.168.56.1/32 gateway=200.160.2.3 scope=10
add check-gateway=ping distance=1 dst-address=192.168.57.1/32 gateway=208.67.222.222 scope=10
add check-gateway=ping distance=1 dst-address=192.168.57.1/32 gateway=8.8.8.8 scope=10
add distance=1 dst-address=200.160.2.3/32 gateway=192.168.1.1 scope=10
add distance=20 dst-address=200.160.2.3/32 type=blackhole
add distance=1 dst-address=208.67.220.220/32 gateway=192.168.1.1 scope=10
add distance=20 dst-address=208.67.220.220/32 type=blackhole
add distance=1 dst-address=208.67.222.222/32 gateway=192.168.0.1 scope=10
add distance=20 dst-address=208.67.222.222/32 type=blackhole
/ppp secret
add name=vpn password=dudako346456
/system clock
set time-zone-name=America/Sao_Paulo
/system routerboard settings
# Firmware upgraded successfully, please reboot for changes to take effect!
set cpu-frequency=650MHz protected-routerboot=disabled
/system scheduler
add comment=mundolimpo.ddns.net interval=5m name=sdfgsdfgsdfgsdfg.ddns.net on-event=earagrr.ddns.net policy=read,write,test start-date=may/18/2016 start-time=\
    10:54:22
add comment=mundolimpogvt.ddns.net interval=5m name=agadfgafdgvt.ddns.net on-event=adgasdgadgt.ddns.net policy=read,write,test start-date=may/18/2016 \
    start-time=10:54:31
/system script
add name=dfdfasdfo.ddns.net owner=admin policy=read,write,test source="# DNS Din\E2mico usando No-IP asdfasdfasdfasd.ddns.net pela GVT (3\AAporta 03gvt) do Rou\
    terBoart Mikrotik\r\
    \n# DNS Din\E2mico usando No-IP mundolimpo.ddns.net pela NET (1\AAporta 01net) do RouterBoart Mikrotik\r\
    \n\r\
    \n\r\
    \n#--------------- Altere os valores abaixo com suas informa\E7\F5es corretas ------------------\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# Conta de Usu\E1rio e Senha do No-IP\r\
    \n:local noipuser \"SFasdfnet\"\r\
    \n:local noippass \"dSDFASDFo150310\"\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# Especifique o endere\E7o do seu no-ip a ser usado\r\
    \n#:local noiphost \"\SDFSDFASDFo.ddns.net\" = NET\r\
    \n#:local noiphost \"m\SDFASDFt.ddns.net\" = GVT\r\
    \n:local noiphost \"mSDFASDFASDF.ddns.net\"\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# Coloque aqui o nome de sua interface WAN (INTERNET)\r\
    \n#:local inetinterface \"01net\"\r\
    \n#:local inetinterface \"03gvt\"\r\
    \n:local inetinterface \"01net\"\r\
    \n\r\
    \n#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\r\
    \n# N\E3o mude mais nada daqui em diante!\r\
    \n\r\
    \n:global previousIP\r\
    \n\r\
    \n:if ([/interface get \$inetinterface value-name=running]) do={\r\
    \n# Get the current IP on the interface\r\
    \n   :local currentIP [/ip address get [find interface=\"\$inetinterface\" disabled=no] address]\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# Strip the net mask off the IP address\r\
    \n   :for i from=( [:len \$currentIP] - 1) to=0 do={\r\
    \n       :if ( [:pick \$currentIP \$i] = \"/\") do={ \r\
    \n           :set currentIP [:pick \$currentIP 0 \$i]\r\
    \n       } \r\
    \n   }\r\
    \n\r\
    \n   :if (\$currentIP != \$previousIP) do={\r\
    \n       :log info \"No-IP: Current IP \$currentIP is not equal to previous IP, update needed\"\r\
    \n       :set previousIP \$currentIP\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# The update URL. Note the \"\\3F\" is hex for question mark. Required since is a special character in commands.\r\
    \n       :local url \"http://dynupdate.no-ip.com/nic/update\\ ... rentIP\"\r\
    \n       :local noiphostarray\r\
    \n       :set noiphostarray [:toarray \$noiphost]\r\
    \n       :foreach host in=\$noiphostarray do={\r\
    \n           :log info \"No-IP: Sending update for \$host\"\r\
    \n           /tool fetch url=(\$url . \"&hostname=\$host\") user=\$noipuser password=\$noippass mode=http Dst-path=(\"no-ip_ddns_update-\" . \$host . \".t\
    xt\")\r\
    \n           :log info \"No-IP: Host \$host updated on No-IP with IP \$currentIP\"\r\
    \n       }\r\
    \n   }  else={\r\
    \n       :log info \"No-IP: Previous IP \$previousIP is equal to current IP, no update needed\"\r\
    \n   }\r\
    \n} else={\r\
    \n   :log info \"No-IP: \$inetinterface is not currently running, so therefore will not update.\"\r\
    \n}"
add name=SDFASDFASDF.ddns.net owner=admin policy=read,write,test source="# DNS Din\E2mico usando No-IP \AS\ASDasd.ddns.net pela GVT (3\AAporta 03gvt) do \
    RouterBoart Mikrotik\r\
    \n# DNS Din\E2mico usando No-IP sasdasdASDo.ddns.net pela NET (1\AAporta 01net) do RouterBoart Mikrotik\r\
    \n\r\
    \n\r\
    \n#--------------- Altere os valores abaixo com suas informa\E7\F5es corretas ------------------\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# Conta de Usu\E1rio e Senha do No-IP\r\
    \n:local noipuser \"mundoASDFASDFt\"\r\
    \n:local noippass \"\ZFA\SDFsdf10\"\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# Especifique o endere\E7o do seu no-ip a ser usado\r\
    \n#:local noiphost \"asdfasdfasdf.ddns.net\" = NET\r\
    \n#:local noiphost \"sdfasdfasdfasdfas.ddns.net\" = GVT\r\
    \n:local noiphost \"sdfasdfasdfat.ddns.net\"\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# Coloque aqui o nome de sua interface WAN (INTERNET)\r\
    \n#:local inetinterface \"01net\"\r\
    \n#:local inetinterface \"03gvt\"\r\
    \n:local inetinterface \"03gvt\"\r\
    \n\r\
    \n#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\r\
    \n# N\E3o mude mais nada daqui em diante!\r\
    \n\r\
    \n:global previousIP\r\
    \n\r\
    \n:if ([/interface get \$inetinterface value-name=running]) do={\r\
    \n# Get the current IP on the interface\r\
    \n   :local currentIP [/ip address get [find interface=\"\$inetinterface\" disabled=no] address]\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# Strip the net mask off the IP address\r\
    \n   :for i from=( [:len \$currentIP] - 1) to=0 do={\r\
    \n       :if ( [:pick \$currentIP \$i] = \"/\") do={ \r\
    \n           :set currentIP [:pick \$currentIP 0 \$i]\r\
    \n       } \r\
    \n   }\r\
    \n\r\
    \n   :if (\$currentIP != \$previousIP) do={\r\
    \n       :log info \"No-IP: Current IP \$currentIP is not equal to previous IP, update needed\"\r\
    \n       :set previousIP \$currentIP\r\
    \n\r\
    \n# The update URL. Note the \"\\3F\" is hex for question mark . Required since is a special character in commands.\r\
    \n       :local url \"http://dynupdate.no-ip.com/nic/update\\ ... rentIP\"\r\
    \n       :local noiphostarray\r\
    \n       :set noiphostarray [:toarray \$noiphost]\r\
    \n       :foreach host in=\$noiphostarray do={\r\
    \n           :log info \"No-IP: Sending update for \$host\"\r\
    \n           /tool fetch url=(\$url . \"&hostname=\$host\") user=\$noipuser password=\$noippass mode=http Dst-path=(\"no-ip_ddns_update-\" . \$host . \".t\
    xt\")\r\
    \n           :log info \"No-IP: Host \$host updated on No-IP with IP \$currentIP\"\r\
    \n       }\r\
    \n   }  else={\r\
    \n       :log info \"No-IP: Previous IP \$previousIP is equal to current IP, no update needed\"\r\
    \n   }\r\
    \n} else={\r\
    \n   :log info \"No-IP: \$inetinterface is not currently running, so therefore will not update.\"\r\
    \n}"
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set [ find default=yes ] disabled=yes
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/tool mac-server mac-winbox
set [ find default=yes ] disabled=yes
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Your credentials in your scriptsare visible. Remove them
 
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All credentials are fake like sdfadfasdf
 
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All credentials are fake like sdfadfasdf
Are you sure about this one :
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it isn't dudako346456
 
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it isn't dudako346456
OK, sorry for the insistence.
 
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Does anyone have this model working with 2 wan and the failover an loadbalance working?
 
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It's not a problem of modele but of setup

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It's not a problem of modele but of setup

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Can you please tellme were my setup is wrong please
 
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Can you please tellme were my setup is wrong please
Several things:

1. You are not using HW switching (no port has master-port options set), so this settings seem wrong. They should do nothing at best:
/interface ethernet switch port
set 0 default-vlan-id=1
set 2 default-vlan-id=2
2. Your 02lan interface is a bridge member, so the following configuration snippet is wrong. Never assign IP address to the bridge members, you should only assign it to the bridge interface itself.
/ip address
add address=10.1.1.2/24 comment=defconf interface=02lan network=10.1.1.0
These might not be related to your problem, though. The config in general looks messy, you probably do not understand what you're doing. I suggest you removing your current configuration and starting building new one from scratch, one feature at a time. Also please make sure you understand what exactly you are trying to achieve.

Talking about hAP lite in general- it is definitely possible to setup this tiny thing for dual-wan. I have one in my lab at home, it's incredibly flexible despite the price.
 
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Can anyone send me an functional export of a harp lite with 2 wan a lan in bridge wit the wifi and the loadbalance and failover functional?
 
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Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:26 am

I have AP (groove, L4) with home LAN & internet access. Now I would like to add another AP which can bridge LAN to this WiFi and work as AP + isolated AP (for guests) at the same time. Is hAP lite OK for such task?
 
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It is. The question is what will be the physical result in terms of wifi connection...
 
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Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:17 pm

I have AP (groove, L4) with home LAN & internet access. Now I would like to add another AP which can bridge LAN to this WiFi and work as AP + isolated AP (for guests) at the same time. Is hAP lite OK for such task?
Yeah hAP Lite can do it
 
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i have configured 705 routerboad hostspot but i unable to limit bandwidth.
 
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... And what is the relation to the hap lite?
 
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Hap
 
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Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:06 am

Please make a new topic with your question about the hotspot on your RB750
 
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Can this box be use to do a Dual WAN? Switch/ over/ Failover and /or Bandwidth Bonding? - Is that a function of the Router OS Level rather the box? Please guide. Thanks.

We have a 1 or 2 machines at a remote dusty workshop type location (where the DSL is crappy & the backup 3G USB modem is nothing better either) where putting anything expensive or complex (subject to maintenance) is out of the question.
 
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:53 pm

If possible to do the above, I'd love to partake in this as well. Thanks.
Can anyone send me an functional export of a harp lite with 2 wan a lan in bridge wit the wifi and the loadbalance and failover functional?
 
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Can this box be use to do a Dual WAN? Switch/ over/ Failover and /or Bandwidth Bonding? - Is that a function of the Router OS Level rather the box? Please guide. Thanks.

We have a 1 or 2 machines at a remote dusty workshop type location (where the DSL is crappy & the backup 3G USB modem is nothing better either) where putting anything expensive or complex (subject to maintenance) is out of the question.
It is. But always take into account that all ethernets share common 100Mbit lane to the CPU and the CPU is not the fastest ever at all...
 
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Can this box be use to do a Dual WAN? Switch/ over/ Failover and /or Bandwidth Bonding? - Is that a function of the Router OS Level rather the box? Please guide. Thanks.

We have a 1 or 2 machines at a remote dusty workshop type location (where the DSL is crappy & the backup 3G USB modem is nothing better either) where putting anything expensive or complex (subject to maintenance) is out of the question.
It is. But always take into account that all ethernets share common 100Mbit lane to the CPU and the CPU is not the fastest ever at all...
Thanks. True. The performance wont be phenomenal, but the location does not have the bandwidth anyways. So, at the cost of a consumer router I'd prefer the HabLite.

Is there a guide or Settings sample for Dual WAN that you can guide me towards? That way I can get my hands wet on Router OS and maybe my next one will be a higher variation from the product line.
 
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I think it's in the manual. Have you seen it? Also the Google gives the hit on the top.
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Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:22 pm

If possible to do the above, I'd love to partake in this as well. Thanks.
Can anyone send me an functional export of a harp lite with 2 wan a lan in bridge wit the wifi and the loadbalance and failover functional?
The bridge is trivial, the fail over is not difficult, but multi WAN is a thorny issue regardless of what router you select. You cannot simply configure the router to route traffic to either WAN indiscriminately, because it breaks stateful protocols such as HTTPS and others. You must sit down and manually make decisions as to what traffic will normally use which WAN, either by traffic type, source, or target; and then configure mangle rules and discretionary routing tables to ensure that all of this type of traffic goes to the same WAN all the time (subject to fail over). Everyone has to make these choices for himself depending on his own traffic characteristics, which is why there is no cookbook answer to this problem.

Since this topic is not specific to the hAP lite, you should search the forum for other threads that deal with it, and discuss it there.
 
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If possible to do the above, I'd love to partake in this as well. Thanks.
Can anyone send me an functional export of a harp lite with 2 wan a lan in bridge wit the wifi and the loadbalance and failover functional?
The bridge is trivial, the fail over is not difficult, but multi WAN is a thorny issue regardless of what router you select. You cannot simply configure the router to route traffic to either WAN indiscriminately, because it breaks stateful protocols such as HTTPS and others. You must sit down and manually make decisions as to what traffic will normally use which WAN, either by traffic type, source, or target; and then configure mangle rules and discretionary routing tables to ensure that all of this type of traffic goes to the same WAN all the time (subject to fail over). Everyone has to make these choices for himself depending on his own traffic characteristics, which is why there is no cookbook answer to this problem.

Since this topic is not specific to the hAP lite, you should search the forum for other threads that deal with it, and discuss it there.
Thanks. Also, is there a chart for the various models that compares/ shows WAN to LAN throughout performance so people may choose appropriate device?


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Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:10 am

is there a chart for the various models that compares/ shows WAN to LAN throughout performance so people may choose appropriate device?
Not all in one place, I think, but at routerboard.com every device has a data sheet that shows bit and packet throughput for various configurations. In general, you get what you pay for.


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is there a chart for the various models that compares/ shows WAN to LAN throughout performance so people may choose appropriate device?
Not all in one place, I think, but at routerboard.com every device has a data sheet that shows bit and packet throughput for various configurations. In general, you get what you pay for.

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Of course, but wouldn't a product matrix + benchmarks be favorable for prospective and existing customers (and the Product seller/ Maker) so that they can easily choose the product of the right fit and scale. Going through each data sheet is like saying that we wont have a unified view on our product portfolio.
 
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Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:41 pm

Regardless of the arguments for its desirability, none exists as far as I know. There is a unified guide available across models as far as radio signal strength and distance, but none that I know of for routing power. The only cross model indicator I know of in that regard is the unit price tag. Someone else may know of a guide that I have overlooked.
 
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Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:48 am

I have more than 200 of this boxes installed.
It works quite good (2 dbi of gain on the antenna would be much better...).
But I have to say that the power connector is not a good choice.
I have more than 10 with problems because of this...
You have to look for a better option.

Thanks.
 
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Tue May 15, 2018 6:39 pm

Just got one, I haven't tested it out yet but I like the form factor a lot.

It's great for temp. use / live event / field testing or troubleshooting. No need to worry whether there's spare outlet, great for IoT. If there's a USB port it will work.

I did think about mAP but this has just enough RJ45 ports for simple port mirroring, or act as a switch to control several things together, ie LED display panel.

I really hope it has Gigabit Eth ports, as some of my gear must use them, otherwise it won't even connect and get an IP address. Is it the price point or the 5V USB supply keeping GbE ports away from it? I would really like to hear.

I work in a SI company offering professional audio/video-engineering solutions, so I think this is a great product for field deployment, as well as a great tool to learn the underlying protocols, how my things actually works
 
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Just got one, I haven't tested it out yet but I like the form factor a lot.

It's great for temp. use / live event / field testing or troubleshooting. No need to worry whether there's spare outlet, great for IoT. If there's a USB port it will work.

I did think about mAP but this has just enough RJ45 ports for simple port mirroring, or act as a switch to control several things together, ie LED display panel.

I really hope it has Gigabit Eth ports, as some of my gear must use them, otherwise it won't even connect and get an IP address. Is it the price point or the 5V USB supply keeping GbE ports away from it? I would really like to hear.

I work in a SI company offering professional audio/video-engineering solutions, so I think this is a great product for field deployment, as well as a great tool to learn the underlying protocols, how my things actually works
Lowest cost MikroTik cased unit with gigabit and multiple ports is hAP ac2. There are none powered by USB +5V. Go to https://mikrotik.com/products/group/wir ... and-office#! and use the filters in the left column to choose gigabit.
 
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Wed May 16, 2018 6:46 am

Just got one, I haven't tested it out yet but I like the form factor a lot.

It's great for temp. use / live event / field testing or troubleshooting. No need to worry whether there's spare outlet, great for IoT. If there's a USB port it will work.

I did think about mAP but this has just enough RJ45 ports for simple port mirroring, or act as a switch to control several things together, ie LED display panel.

I really hope it has Gigabit Eth ports, as some of my gear must use them, otherwise it won't even connect and get an IP address. Is it the price point or the 5V USB supply keeping GbE ports away from it? I would really like to hear.

I work in a SI company offering professional audio/video-engineering solutions, so I think this is a great product for field deployment, as well as a great tool to learn the underlying protocols, how my things actually works
Lowest cost MikroTik cased unit with gigabit and multiple ports is hAP ac2. There are none powered by USB +5V. Go to https://mikrotik.com/products/group/wir ... and-office#! and use the filters in the left column to choose gigabit.

Yes I'm aware of that, I use a hAP ac (1) at home actually. Just want to know why USB power and GbE don't mix together, is it because of the price, or technical challenges like 5V simply not sufficient for GbE? Since it seems all USB-powered only have FE available (mAP, mAP lite and hAP lite)
 
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Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:28 pm

Just want to know why USB power and GbE don't mix together, is it because of the price, or technical challenges like 5V simply not sufficient for GbE? Since it seems all USB-powered only have FE available (mAP, mAP lite and hAP lite)
Power consumption of GbE chipsets.
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Ever wondered why there is no passively cooled 10G switches?
It is only a matter of time. As things get smaller power consumption will eventually decrease and passive cooling will be possible.
 
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Just want to know why USB power and GbE don't mix together, is it because of the price, or technical challenges like 5V simply not sufficient for GbE? Since it seems all USB-powered only have FE available (mAP, mAP lite and hAP lite)
Power consumption of GbE chipsets.
Ever wondered why there is no passively cooled 10G switches?
Oh I see......hope they'll release one with USB-C in future
 
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Just got one, I haven't tested it out yet but I like the form factor a lot.

It's great for temp. use / live event / field testing or troubleshooting. No need to worry whether there's spare outlet, great for IoT. If there's a USB port it will work.

I did think about mAP but this has just enough RJ45 ports for simple port mirroring, or act as a switch to control several things together, ie LED display panel.

I really hope it has Gigabit Eth ports, as some of my gear must use them, otherwise it won't even connect and get an IP address. Is it the price point or the 5V USB supply keeping GbE ports away from it? I would really like to hear.

I work in a SI company offering professional audio/video-engineering solutions, so I think this is a great product for field deployment, as well as a great tool to learn the underlying protocols, how my things actually works
Lowest cost MikroTik cased unit with gigabit and multiple ports is hAP ac2. There are none powered by USB +5V. Go to https://mikrotik.com/products/group/wir ... and-office#! and use the filters in the left column to choose gigabit.
Thanks for that Link & Filter. Atleast something positive in terms of "Product Filtering"
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:26 pm

@xbliss, performance varies A LOT with different rules and setups. There used to be no numbers at all since it can vary so much. For example the charts are published for zero or 25 ip filter rules. However the load on the cpu is not linear and you can't really extrapolate and say "ok, so 13 rules will give me double the bandwidth". It doesn't work that way. Mainly because not all traffic goes through all the rules anyway.

My advice to you is if you are planning on buying a bunch of these for a specific mission, get one or two, set them up and test your setup in all possible scenarios so you know for a fact that it'll work. And if you're planning on buying one of these for yourself and home use, it'll probably be sufficient but don't cheap out and either get a hAPac or select a router for your needs and buy a separate access point. Which is the best solution anyway because you can place it in a different location of where all the wires are at and maximize wifi coverage.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:52 pm

Something like RB450Gx4 with a few RBcAPGi-5acD2nD or whatever APs?
 
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Something like RB450Gx4 ...?
Or, if amount of RAM and storage offered by RB450Gx4 is not needed, a RBD52G (with wireless disabled) might be considered as well ... comes with a case and lower price-tag while offering same wired performance.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:07 pm

Any word on NAND storage? Is it going to be like a normal RouterBoard with somewhere between 32-64MiB minimum, or is it going to be more like an mAP in that respect, with the same kind of software update procedure as an mAP?

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total-hdd-space: 16.0MiB
So how would I troubleshoot a RB951-2nD that keeps booting on its own-I cannot log in to them even after a hard reset. Also others have 'internet port'-port 1, blinking even with no ethernet cable plugged in. Another which seem not to be getting enough juice i am assuming the power supply on the PCB has an issue?
 
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Re: hAP lite

Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:27 pm

Dim or flickering LEDs and rebooting are usually signs of bad capacitors on board, check all the electrolytic caps and possibly replace them.
I have fixed many routerboards that appeared bricked by just replacing all capacitors...
 
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Re: hAP lite

Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:07 pm

Asking some of the HapLite folks on the HapLite thread..

we don't have any beamforming products yet.
And after 6 years still the same ...
Based on this and this Why people pair UBNT APs with MikroTik routers? Then..

..The following thought process for of mine are valid courses of action/ thought towards keeping Mktk for Routing but look elsewhere for Wireless.
Cheap APs & Routers to pair w low end Mikrotik hAPlite (N) Home/ SOHO setup for Wireless AC? (Non ubiquiti etc)

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