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Re: HAP AC

Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:21 pm

Are you going to RMA? I will at least one unit - it is not cheap device to be this shitty!
I did some modifications to second unit because of low tolerance to USB capacitive load (http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=106174 ). But fortunatelly the second one works at 40Mhz (but only on 1st channel)
Mikrotik really disappointed me - this fault, USB problem, LAN switch problem (as I read here in topic...)
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:09 am

did you try channel 12 and 13?
may be change country settings to test?
I sit the channel restrictes US version or the international one?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:16 pm

I have international unit. I did change country but with no effect - it looks like HW problem.
I have connected the less affected unit and  tried this again with all channels. It works on 1 - 6 but on 7-13 I am not able to connect. Sometimes it shows "connected" in mikrotik log but few seconds later it disconnects. It acts like you have very poor signal or extreme interference.

I even tried different chains setup at problematic channels:
with chains 0+1+2 I am not able to connect
with only chain 0 it works but only few Mb/s
with only chain 1 it works but only few Mb/s
with only chain 2 I am able to connect but works as badly, I am not able to complete speedtest.

with chain 0+1 or 0+2 I am not able to connect.
And with configuration 1+2 I don't even see the network in other devices!

And yes, both chains are Tx+Rx and Yes, with single chain I saw the network on all chains and yes, I check on both devices and even after 1minute I don't see the network! Quite mystery...
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:49 pm

I have international unit. I did change country but with no effect - it looks like HW problem.
I have connected the less affected unit and  tried this again with all channels. It works on 1 - 6 but on 7-13 I am not able to connect. Sometimes it shows "connected" in mikrotik log but few seconds later it disconnects. It acts like you have very poor signal or extreme interference.

I even tried different chains setup at problematic channels:
with chains 0+1+2 I am not able to connect
with only chain 0 it works but only few Mb/s
with only chain 1 it works but only few Mb/s
with only chain 2 I am able to connect but works as badly, I am not able to complete speedtest.

with chain 0+1 or 0+2 I am not able to connect.
And with configuration 1+2 I don't even see the network in other devices!

And yes, both chains are Tx+Rx and Yes, with single chain I saw the network on all chains and yes, I check on both devices and even after 1minute I don't see the network! Quite mystery...
same problem with my hAP ac. And I think this is HW problem too, because my friend bought hAP ac and expirience same problems.....
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode antenna-gain=2 band=2ghz-onlyn \
    channel-width=20/40mhz-Ce country=russia2 disabled=no distance=indoors frequency=auto frequency-mode=\
    regulatory-domain hw-protection-mode=rts-cts mode=ap-bridge name=wlan-2.4GHz ssid=78 tx-power=17 tx-power-mode=\
    all-rates-fixed wireless-protocol=802.11 wmm-support=enabled
set [ find default-name=wlan2 ] adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode antenna-gain=1 band=5ghz-a/n/ac \
    channel-width=20/40/80mhz-Ceee country="united states" disabled=no distance=indoors frequency-mode=\
    regulatory-domain guard-interval=long hw-protection-mode=rts-cts max-station-count=20 mode=ap-bridge name=wlan-5GHz \
    ssid=78 wireless-protocol=802.11 wmm-support=enabled wps-mode=disabled
and with this settings in 5 GHz band devices connect in only 802.11n mode.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:08 pm

Hi, guys
 I received my 2 HAP AC few days ago, did some test. I have 200Mbps/20Mbps at home, which was supported by netgear R7000(uTorrent download get around 25MB) But after everything i tried, my new HAP AC still can't exceed 125 Mbps, which is not acceptable for me. Everytime I test on speedtest, CPU always reachs 100%.Someone in this thread mentioned it can handle 300Mbps NAT. I'm starting to think it should be hardware issue, health indicates 23.8V voltage and 58 C. Here is my configurations.
/interface bridge
add name=bridge1
/interface ethernet
set [ find default-name=ether1 ] name=ether1-wan
set [ find default-name=ether2 ] name=ether2-lan
/interface pppoe-client
add add-default-route=yes disabled=no interface=ether1-wan keepalive-timeout=disabled name=pppoe-out1 password=******** use-peer-dns=yes user=********
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] band=2ghz-b/g/n channel-width=20/40mhz-Ce disabled=no frequency=2422 mode=ap-bridge ssid=RB962UiGS-2HnT wireless-protocol=802.11 wps-mode=disabled
set [ find default-name=wlan2 ] band=5ghz-onlyac channel-width=20/40/80mhz-Ceee disabled=no mode=ap-bridge ssid=RB962UiGS-5HacT wireless-protocol=802.11 wps-mode=disabled
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] authentication-types=wpa2-psk eap-methods="" mode=dynamic-keys wpa2-pre-shared-key=********
/ip pool
add name=dhcp_pool1 ranges=192.168.100.2-192.168.100.254
/ip dhcp-server
add add-arp=yes address-pool=dhcp_pool1 disabled=no interface=bridge1 lease-time=1d name=dhcp1
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether2-lan
add bridge=bridge1 interface=wlan1
add bridge=bridge1 interface=wlan2
/ip address
add address=192.168.100.1/24 interface=bridge1 network=192.168.100.0
/ip dhcp-server config
set store-leases-disk=never
/ip dhcp-server lease
add address=192.168.100.99 client-id=1:64:51:6:d8:60:ee mac-address=64:51:06:D8:60:EE server=dhcp1
add address=192.168.100.100 client-id=1:64:51:6:d8:60:ec mac-address=64:51:06:D8:60:EC server=dhcp1
/ip dhcp-server network
add address=192.168.100.0/24 gateway=192.168.100.1
/ip firewall nat
add action=src-nat chain=srcnat comment=NAT to-addresses=mywanipaddress
/ip firewall service-port
set ftp disabled=yes
set tftp disabled=yes
set irc disabled=yes
set h323 disabled=yes
set sip disabled=yes
set pptp disabled=yes
/ip service
set telnet disabled=yes
set ftp disabled=yes
set www disabled=yes
set ssh disabled=yes
set api disabled=yes
set api-ssl disabled=yes
/ip upnp
set enabled=yes
/ip upnp interfaces
add interface=pppoe-out1 type=external
add interface=bridge1 type=internal
/system clock
set time-zone-name=Asia/Shanghai
Anybody prove me he can exceed 250Mbps NAT should also prove that I need RMA this HAP AC
Thank you very much, excuse me for my poor English.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:53 pm

Well, i did some verifying and report back here.
1. Replaced another HAP AC(when temp indicates 36C) with same configuration, still the same results
2. Replaced HAP AC with RB951G, NAT speed down to 106Mbps, but after manually enable fast track, it goes up to 130Mbps
/ip firewall filter
add chain=forward action=fasttrack-connection connection-state=established,related
add chain=forward action=accept connection-state=established,related
add chain=forward action=drop connection-state=invalid
3. Fast track does not work on HAP AC(whatever fast track checked or not in /ip firewall connections), speedtest still keeps up to 126Mbps
4. Changed WAN port from ether1 to ether2, still the same
5. Changed packages from 6.35.4 to 6.36rc37, do reset and no default config, import same configuration, still the same poor 126Mbps results.

Most likely, the root cause should be fast track/path was broken on HAP AC.
Any comment?
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:22 pm

Most likely, the root cause should be fast track/path was broken on HAP AC.
Any comment?
Thanks
Mine is working just fine.

1) what interfaces are involved in testing? Ip pppoe make sure that you have version that have pppoe fastpath support added, if wireless make sure that you are running proper wireless package.

2) do you see fastpath counters counting?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:02 pm

Most likely, the root cause should be fast track/path was broken on HAP AC.
Any comment?
Thanks
Mine is working just fine.

1) what interfaces are involved in testing? Ip pppoe make sure that you have version that have pppoe fastpath support added, if wireless make sure that you are running proper wireless package.

2) do you see fastpath counters counting?
1. pppoe client use ether2 to dial out, Bridged ether3, wlan1,wlan2, fast track is checked, test was always through ether3 (even i directly plug ether2 to desktop pc still the same)
2. yes
Even fast track is chekced, the NAT speed are exactly the same when it is not enabled. If a performance feature has no improve on performance, what's the meaning of enabled or not? 
Did your HAP AC can exceed 200Mbps NAT?
Thanks.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:18 pm

Even fast track is chekced, the NAT speed are exactly the same when it is not enabled. If a performance feature has no improve on performance, what's the meaning of enabled or not? 
Did your HAP AC can exceed 200Mbps NAT?
Thanks.
1) with pppoe you need RouterOS version at least 6.35, and make sure that there are no encryption.

2) in /ip settings and /bridge settings, and in /ip firewall connection there are fastpath and fasttrack counters.

I can run all 500Mbps that i have at home getting only ~60% load, but i can reach those speeds only while torrenting. and i chronically dislike speedtest .
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:31 pm

Even fast track is chekced, the NAT speed are exactly the same when it is not enabled. If a performance feature has no improve on performance, what's the meaning of enabled or not? 
Did your HAP AC can exceed 200Mbps NAT?
Thanks.
1) with pppoe you need RouterOS version at least 6.35, and make sure that there are no encryption.

2) in /ip settings and /bridge settings, and in /ip firewall connection there are fastpath and fasttrack counters.

I can run all 500Mbps that i have at home getting only ~60% load, but i can reach those speeds only while torrenting.  and i chronically dislike speedtest .
Hi, macgaiver
 What encryption you mean? Those mschap/pap/... under pppoe client settings?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:36 pm

Hi, macgaiver
 What encryption you mean? Those mschap/pap/... under pppoe client settings?
Security profile need to be without encryption.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:52 pm

Hi, macgaiver
 What encryption you mean? Those mschap/pap/... under pppoe client settings?
Security profile need to be without encryption.
Would you post your exported configuration? I go check these settings soon.
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:29 pm

Hi, guys
 The NAT performance reaches 220Mbps (which is my FTTH) finally, after i attached HAP AC to my old netgear R7000's lan port, use quickset to automatic get DHCP IP address from R7000.
That proves the NAT performance isn't limited to 120Mbps. CPU hit around 75% when fast track disabled, and around 35% when fast track enabled, this is really good form me.
Then question comes to my pppoe client configurations, i've no idea where is wrong. Would anyone post your pppoe client configuration?
Thanks. 
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:36 pm

I'm having trouble getting anything above 320/330 Mbps over WiFi from hAP ac , this is with a 80MHz 2x2 client. 

Has anyone had better luck?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:38 pm

I'm having trouble getting anything above 320/330 Mbps over WiFi from hAP ac , this is with a 80MHz 2x2 client.
How do you test? Have you tested what speed can be achieved over cable?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:35 am

How do you test? Have you tested what speed can be achieved over cable?
Serving data over a single http/tcp connection from a really simple http server I wrote in go, that's running on my tiny old hp n40l and serving a random block of bytes in a loop to my 2015 chromebook pixel ls.
hAP ac has a bridge between ether1 and wlan2 and as of a few seconds ago gets me 345 Mbps over WiFi (lucky I guess).
When I take the cable out of ether1 and connect the that chromebook using usb-c <-> ethernet and repeat the test I get 111MB/s / 935Mbps.

Edit: despite my DIY testing setup (I have to test in a browser), my question still stands, ie. Did anyone ever get more than 320/350 mbps tcp over 2x2 802.11ac WiFi on a hAP ac in any conditions. The reason I'm asking is that apparently in tp-link devices and in dd-wrt firmware the QCA9880 is somehow capable of it (and I've seen 700/800 mbps wifi with 3x3 with other chips), which leads me to believe something must be wrong with my hAP ac units or maybe I just can't find a good ros version to run on a hAP ac.
Also, when I configure the wlan2 for 40MHz 802.11n I get a bit more than 200mbps in with my testing setup. 802.11ac has 33% more efficient encoding, and the channel width is 80MHz and so I'd expect to get ~500 mbps instead of ~320 - ~350 mbps
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:51 am

Performance with my Macbook pro 2015 = 1300 Mbit/sec:
Image
But I hope it can be better, because I get this connection speed with stock settings (Changed channel width only, and country set to Taiwan)
Last edited by sstyle on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:19 am, edited 3 times in total.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:52 am

Little differences between 2.4 and 5 are normal since according to the documentation, but in your case probably difference comes from country regulations.
Remember that 802.11ac is way more complicated (with BF, DFS) than 802.11n, so simple software analyzer may not be accurate.
What is it BF? Which country settings is better? I need maximum perfomance and signal strength

2. You are using latest Firmware version;

3. You have enabled wireless-cm2/wireless-rep package;
How to check current Firmware? I see 6.35.4 but is not fw ver as I understand, it is RouterOS
What is better cm2 or fp for apple devices? What is it wireless-rep?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:52 am

What is better cm2 or fp for apple devices? What is it wireless-rep?
FP package was deprecated and not supported anymore.
in theory "Ultimate" was rep, especially if you need its major new features, otherwise you can save bits of resources(some speculated that it somewhat more loading RAM and CPU, but difference is quite marginal/tiny to bother about).
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:13 am

wireless -> FP -> cm2 -> rep -> wireless
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:15 pm

After "rep" package wireless comes again?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:20 pm

After "rep" package wireless comes again?
6.37 already has it 
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:26 pm

Great. 6.36 was not released yet but 6.37 already has something... Do we have a time machine?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:29 pm

Hm, tried to test network performance between windows PC connected by gigabit cable (cat.5e) to hAP AC and MacBook Pro connected by wifi 5ghz (1000-1300Mbit connection). Why transfer speed is so low?
iperf -c 192.168.1.253 -t 30 -i 5
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.253, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 22.5 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  4] local 192.168.1.10 port 57665 connected with 192.168.1.253 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]  0.0- 5.0 sec   194 MBytes   325 Mbits/sec
[  4]  5.0-10.0 sec   216 MBytes   363 Mbits/sec
[  4] 10.0-15.0 sec   186 MBytes   313 Mbits/sec
[  4] 15.0-20.0 sec   219 MBytes   367 Mbits/sec
[  4] 20.0-25.0 sec   230 MBytes   387 Mbits/sec
[  4] 25.0-30.0 sec   218 MBytes   366 Mbits/sec
[  4]  0.0-30.0 sec  1.23 GBytes   354 Mbits/sec
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:48 pm

Hello, 

Please help me. 
I have rb952ui-5ac2nD.
A would like test routeros downgrade. But router is brick.
Download mipsbe5.26, and click downgrade.
Router reboot, and not respond. 
Situation: 
When not responded 30 minutes I reboot. Until reboot power and usr blink no other (1-2-3-4-5 if lan cable pluged, not blink).
I try netinstall 6.35.4, but not work.
I disable Windows7 firewall and setting notebook IP 10.1.1.10 Nm:255.255.255.0. 
Netinstall setting: boot server enabled, client ip 10.1.1.5.
And press the router reset button 30second, but not work, netinstall is can not see the router. 

Winbox can not see a router. 

What is wrong? 
Help me!
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:19 pm

Try to disable all but ethernet network interface,before using netinstall.

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Re: HAP AC

Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:19 am

Very strange issue. I have a iPhone SE, Macbook Pro 2015 and iPad mini 2. Macbook and iPhone initiate connection to WIFI very fast. But when I turn on iPad it does not connect to wifi first 30 seconds and then connect to wifi (2.4kHz). How to fix that? WMM enabled, channel set to 20Hz, preamble set to long.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:13 pm

You can prvovide iperf command with intresting for you params, I will do these tests
@alber you are awesome! Thank you very much for all your answers!  :D

I always use iperf2 from https://iperf.fr/iperf-download.php, if you want you can use iperf3 too but the command line switches are a bit different.

If you are using iperf (2) then use the following settings please:
server: "iperf -s -w 1MB"

1 Channel
client: "iperf -c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -w 1MB -R -P 1 -t 30"

4 Channels
client: "iperf -c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -w 1MB -R -P 4 -t 30"

16 Channels
client: "iperf -c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -w 1MB -R -P 16 -t 30"


A second set (if you are willing):
server: "iperf -s -w 64KB"

1 Channel
client: "iperf -c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -w 64KB -R -P 1 -t 30"

4 Channels
client: "iperf -c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -w 64KB -R -P 4 -t 30"

16 Channels
client: "iperf -c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -w 64KB -R -P 16 -t 30"

That should give us a good overview of total bandwidth attainable using one stream and multiple streams both using large block sizes and small.
My results:
iperf -c 192.168.1.9 -w 1MB -R -P 1 -t 30
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.9, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 1.00 MByte (WARNING: requested 1.00 MByte)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]  0.0-30.0 sec  1.96 GBytes   562 Mbits/sec
iperf -c 192.168.1.9 -w 1MB -R -P 4 -t 30
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.9, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 1.00 MByte (WARNING: requested 1.00 MByte)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  7]  0.0-30.0 sec   547 MBytes   153 Mbits/sec
[  5]  0.0-30.0 sec   568 MBytes   159 Mbits/sec
[  4]  0.0-30.0 sec   415 MBytes   116 Mbits/sec
[  6]  0.0-30.0 sec   444 MBytes   124 Mbits/sec
[SUM]  0.0-30.0 sec  1.93 GBytes   552 Mbits/sec
iperf -c 192.168.1.9 -w 1MB -R -P 16 -t 30
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.9, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 1.00 MByte (WARNING: requested 1.00 MByte)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]  0.0-30.0 sec   110 MBytes  30.9 Mbits/sec
[  6]  0.0-30.0 sec   102 MBytes  28.6 Mbits/sec
[  5]  0.0-30.0 sec   133 MBytes  37.2 Mbits/sec
[  8]  0.0-30.0 sec   145 MBytes  40.6 Mbits/sec
[  9]  0.0-30.0 sec   107 MBytes  29.8 Mbits/sec
[ 10]  0.0-30.0 sec   120 MBytes  33.5 Mbits/sec
[  7]  0.0-30.0 sec   127 MBytes  35.4 Mbits/sec
[ 13]  0.0-30.0 sec  89.5 MBytes  25.0 Mbits/sec
[ 11]  0.0-30.0 sec   108 MBytes  30.0 Mbits/sec
[ 14]  0.0-30.0 sec   120 MBytes  33.6 Mbits/sec
[ 16]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.8 Mbits/sec
[ 15]  0.0-30.0 sec   106 MBytes  29.6 Mbits/sec
[ 12]  0.0-30.1 sec   112 MBytes  31.2 Mbits/sec
[ 19]  0.0-30.1 sec  99.8 MBytes  27.8 Mbits/sec
[ 18]  0.0-30.1 sec   146 MBytes  40.7 Mbits/sec
[ 17]  0.0-30.1 sec   130 MBytes  36.1 Mbits/sec
[SUM]  0.0-30.1 sec  1.83 GBytes   524 Mbits/sec
And
iperf -c 192.168.1.9 -w 64KB -R -P 1 -t 30
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.9, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 65.0 KByte (WARNING: requested 64.0 KByte)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]  0.0-30.0 sec   580 MBytes   162 Mbits/sec
iperf -c 192.168.1.9 -w 64KB -R -P 4 -t 30
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.9, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 65.0 KByte (WARNING: requested 64.0 KByte)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]  0.0-30.0 sec   250 MBytes  69.9 Mbits/sec
[  6]  0.0-30.0 sec   231 MBytes  64.5 Mbits/sec
[  7]  0.0-30.0 sec   251 MBytes  70.1 Mbits/sec
[  5]  0.0-30.0 sec   250 MBytes  69.7 Mbits/sec
[SUM]  0.0-30.0 sec   981 MBytes   274 Mbits/sec
iperf -c 192.168.1.9 -w 64KB -R -P 16 -t 30
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.9, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 65.0 KByte (WARNING: requested 64.0 KByte)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.7 Mbits/sec
[  6]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[  5]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[  9]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[  8]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[ 10]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[ 11]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[ 12]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[ 14]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[ 18]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[ 17]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.7 Mbits/sec
[ 16]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.7 Mbits/sec
[ 19]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.7 Mbits/sec
[  7]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.7 Mbits/sec
[ 13]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[ 15]  0.0-30.0 sec   124 MBytes  34.6 Mbits/sec
[SUM]  0.0-30.0 sec  1.94 GBytes   554 Mbits/sec
 
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Re: HAP AC

Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:11 am

Hello, 

Please help me. 
I have rb952ui-5ac2nD.
A would like test routeros downgrade. But router is brick.
Download mipsbe5.26, and click downgrade.
Router reboot, and not respond. 
Situation: 
When not responded 30 minutes I reboot. Until reboot power and usr blink no other (1-2-3-4-5 if lan cable pluged, not blink).
I try netinstall 6.35.4, but not work.
I disable Windows7 firewall and setting notebook IP 10.1.1.10 Nm:255.255.255.0. 
Netinstall setting: boot server enabled, client ip 10.1.1.5.
And press the router reset button 30second, but not work, netinstall is can not see the router. 

Winbox can not see a router. 

What is wrong? 
Help me!
Thanks
Did you try to netinstall on eth1 ?
Also, are you sure you are doin it right ?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:44 am

Is it possible to disable all leds? I see a disko-light on the wall (
 
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Re: HAP AC

Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:18 pm

I think you can disable all but power led.
Go to: System/LEDs
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:30 pm

I think you can disable all but power led.
Go to: System/LEDs
There is no settings for LAN ports
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:51 pm

Try to add interface and then disable it.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:31 pm

i have also one only working on channel 1 with 20 mhz ...
 
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Re: HAP AC

Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:31 am

Same problem here.
Connection on 2,4Ghz radio only possible on channel 1, 20Mhz.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:02 pm

Is problem with wifi solved or at least added to bug tracker? Going to buy hAP AC, now have 2 RB951, RB912UAG, hAP lite.
Wifi is very important in both ranges because of of many legacy devices.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:15 pm

We bought 5 new HAP ACs for testing last week and are having huge wifi issues with them.
LAN/Ethernet performance is flawless but WiFi speeds are incredibly bad in for 11n and 11ac.
Even with a 1m distance to the routers, we get 2/10mbits (down/up) on 11n and 8/30mbits on 11ac.
We are using the same CAPsMAN setup we have been using with a lot of other mikrotik devices, including wap ac and hap ac lite. CAPsMAN shows negotiated speeds of 800Mps+ (3 chains) in the registration table for some devices. All 3 we have tested so far are showing the same behaviour. All are upgraded to the newest RouterOS 3.36 and have wireless-rep installed.
Any idea what the issue could be?
This is the (very simple) configuration:
# aug/15/2016 17:09:46 by RouterOS 6.36
# software id = QRKI-8CAS
#
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX auto-mac=no name=bridgeLocal
/interface wireless
# managed by CAPsMAN
# channel: 2417/20-Ce/gn(20dBm), SSID: XXXXXX, CAPsMAN forwarding
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] ssid=MikroTik
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] supplicant-identity=MikroTik
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk eap-methods="" management-protection=allowed mode=dynamic-keys name=XXX supplicant-identity="" \
    wpa2-pre-shared-key=retrofit
/interface wireless
# managed by CAPsMAN
# channel: 5500/20-Ceee/ac(27dBm), SSID: XXX-5Ghz, CAPsMAN forwarding
set [ find default-name=wlan2 ] adaptive-noise-immunity=ap-and-client-mode band=5ghz-onlyac channel-width=20/40/80mhz-Ceee country=\
    germany distance=indoors frequency=auto hw-protection-mode=rts-cts hw-retries=15 mode=ap-bridge multicast-helper=full \
    security-profile=default ssid=MikroTik wireless-protocol=802.11 wmm-support=enabled wps-mode=disabled
/interface bridge filter
add action=drop chain=input dst-port=68 in-interface=wlan2 ip-protocol=udp mac-protocol=ip
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridgeLocal interface=ether2
add bridge=bridgeLocal interface=ether3
add bridge=bridgeLocal interface=ether4
add bridge=bridgeLocal interface=ether5
add bridge=bridgeLocal interface=sfp1
add bridge=bridgeLocal interface=wlan2
add bridge=bridgeLocal interface=ether1
add bridge=bridgeLocal interface=wlan1
/interface wireless cap
# 
set certificate=request discovery-interfaces=ether1 enabled=yes interfaces=wlan1,wlan2 lock-to-caps-man=yes
/ip dhcp-client
add dhcp-options=hostname,clientid disabled=no interface=ether1
add dhcp-options=hostname,clientid disabled=no interface=bridgeLocal
/system clock
set time-zone-name=Europe/Berlin
/system identity
set name=XXXXXXXXX
/system routerboard settings
set cpu-frequency=720MHz protected-routerboot=disabled
/tool romon
set enabled=yes secrets=XXXXXXXXX
Last edited by ylere on Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:45 pm, edited 2 times in total.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:00 pm

 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:13 pm

Not sure if I'm reading this right, your solution was to replace all HAP ACs with old RB951 and not use the HAP ACs at all?
 
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Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:39 pm

Yes...but It is not final situation... however the point are problems not the soloution
 
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Re: HAP AC

Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:44 am

We bought 5 new HAP ACs for testing last week and are having huge wifi issues with them.
LAN/Ethernet performance is flawless but WiFi speeds are incredibly bad in for 11n and 11ac.
Even with a 1m distance to the routers, we get 2/10mbits (down/up) on 11n and 8/30mbits on 11ac.
We are using the same CAPsMAN setup we have been using with a lot of other mikrotik devices, including wap ac and hap ac lite. CAPsMAN shows negotiated speeds of 800Mps+ (3 chains) in the registration table for some devices. All 3 we have tested so far are showing the same behaviour. All are upgraded to the newest RouterOS 3.36 and have wireless-rep installed.
Any idea what the issue could be?
Update: Without CAPsMAN, wifi speeds are much, much better! I configured the wireless Interfaces on one of the HAP ACs directly without using CAPsMAN and now wifi speeds are up to 70/70Mbps+ for 11n and 280/280Mbps+ for 11ac.
It seems that CAPsMAN with local forwarding is causing a lot of issues. Maybe CAPsMAN is not configuring HAP ACs correctly?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:53 pm

I have 19 HAP AC's and on none of them it is possible to get the 2.4 ghz working correctly ...

- i did also lower the tx power, still not working
 
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Re: HAP AC

Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:46 am

I have 19 HAP AC's and on none of them it is possible to get the 2.4 ghz working correctly ...

- i did also lower the tx power, still not working
Works fine on mine..
 
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Re: HAP AC

Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:44 pm

Update: Without CAPsMAN, wifi speeds are much, much better! I configured the wireless Interfaces on one of the HAP ACs directly without using CAPsMAN and now wifi speeds are up to 70/70Mbps+ for 11n and 280/280Mbps+ for 11ac.
It seems that CAPsMAN with local forwarding is causing a lot of issues. Maybe CAPsMAN is not configuring HAP ACs correctly?
if you use central forwarding with capsman, the router must re-encapsulate all data to be able to send to the controller.
now the thing is, that it hurts 2-3x more as it should:

say you have a pretty normal 1500 byte IP packet.
depending on how capwap is implemented the packet will have a 802.11 or 802.3 frame around it. i suspect the latter one, which then with all the ethernet headers will be 1514 or 1518 (depending whether you use VLANs or stuff like that).

then all those headers add together as capwap data is being encapsulated into udp and then ip:

- IP Header (assuming 20 bytes) - in case of ipv6 it's 40 bytes.
- UDP Header (8 Bytes)
- CAPWAP Header (8 - 16 Bytes)

The CAPWAP payload contains the original wireless frame / or 1 ethernet frame
- 802.11 Header (24 Bytes) / 802.3 header (14-18 bytes)
- Original IP packet (1500 Bytes)

so after the math have been done, you'll end up somewhere at 1550-1588 bytes, which definitely will not fit into the regular 1500byte IP MTU.
that is, after encapsulation you have to fragment the packet and of course reassemble on the other end [pain on the controller side]. fragmentation itself is a cpu intensive stuff,
and as the packet will be cut in 2 halves, your PPS will be also halved, which will cause a notable degradation in forwarding speed.

there are things to work this around, but not everything is under your control:
- use jumbo/baby giant frames on the uplink [you may not have support for it in your backbone]
- lower the MTU on the wireless side and use tcp mss adjustment to make tcp payload smaller so the whole encapsulated traffic including capwap magic
fits into 1500 bytes. udp will still suffer and may be dropped if MTUs does not match on client & ap.

life's hard.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:14 pm

Hm, tried to test network performance between windows PC connected by gigabit cable (cat.5e) to hAP AC and MacBook Pro connected by wifi 5ghz (1000-1300Mbit connection). Why transfer speed is so low?
iperf -c 192.168.1.253 -t 30 -i 5
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.253, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 22.5 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  4] local 192.168.1.10 port 57665 connected with 192.168.1.253 port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]  0.0- 5.0 sec   194 MBytes   325 Mbits/sec
[  4]  5.0-10.0 sec   216 MBytes   363 Mbits/sec
[  4] 10.0-15.0 sec   186 MBytes   313 Mbits/sec
[  4] 15.0-20.0 sec   219 MBytes   367 Mbits/sec
[  4] 20.0-25.0 sec   230 MBytes   387 Mbits/sec
[  4] 25.0-30.0 sec   218 MBytes   366 Mbits/sec
[  4]  0.0-30.0 sec  1.23 GBytes   354 Mbits/sec
Are you passing by any firewall filters? Try enabling fasttrack for that connection.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:47 pm

Are you passing by any firewall filters? Try enabling fasttrack for that connection.
Looks like it enabled.
/ip firewall filter
add action=fasttrack-connection chain=forward comment="defconf: fasttrack" \
    connection-state=established,related
add action=accept chain=forward comment="defconf: accept established,related" \
    connection-state=established,related
add action=accept chain=input connection-state=related
add action=drop chain=input disabled=yes in-interface=Smile
add action=accept chain=input protocol=icmp
add action=drop chain=forward comment="defconf: drop invalid" \
    connection-state=invalid
add action=drop chain=forward comment=\
    "defconf:  drop all from WAN not DSTNATed" connection-nat-state=!dstnat \
    connection-state=new in-interface=wan
add action=drop chain=input connection-state=new dst-port=123 in-interface=\
    Smile log-prefix=" " protocol=udp
add action=drop chain=input connection-state=new dst-port=123 in-interface=\
    Smile log-prefix=" " protocol=tcp
add action=drop chain=input connection-state=new dst-port=53 in-interface=\
    Smile log-prefix=" " protocol=udp
add action=drop chain=input connection-state=new dst-port=53 in-interface=\
    Smile log-prefix=" " protocol=tcp
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:54 am

I noticed a new firmware upgrade is out now for the hap ac, 3.34. I've just upgraded, anyone see the changelog?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:35 pm

I noticed a new firmware upgrade is out now for the hap ac, 3.34. I've just upgraded, anyone see the changelog?
Usually those RouterBOOT updates are just "additional device support" (to make it work on new hardware revisions etc.).

Once Mikrotik updates it, the change log should be available here: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/RouterBOOT_changelog
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:47 pm

Guys, please add a new feature - completely disable all leds (power led can be enabled). It is very difficult to sleep with disco-light on the roof.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:59 pm

Guys, please add a new feature - completely disable all leds (power led can be enabled). It is very difficult to sleep with disco-light on the roof.
Just apply black tape on them.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:22 pm

Did it, but what should I do with ventilation holes?
 
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Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:29 pm

Black pvc tape works as a charm! [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]
 
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Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:35 pm

And get overheating as result?!
 
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Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:13 pm

Guys, please add a new feature - completely disable all leds (power led can be enabled). It is very difficult to sleep with disco-light on the roof.
+1
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:18 am

@mleonidov
the Power LED can't be disabled on the HAP AC. We want to disable all LED, incl. Power.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:57 am

Why can't the hAP AC Lite be AF/AT POE instead of passive? Is that a big change? It would make a great dorm room switch for us if it was POE. A in-wall form factor would be the next ask..:)
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:43 am

Why can't the hAP AC Lite be AF/AT POE instead of passive? Is that a big change? It would make a great dorm room switch for us if it was POE. A in-wall form factor would be the next ask..:)
Yes, the power parts that are required are more in number and higher in price and complexity.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:02 am

Will the ubiquiti instant 802.3af to passive poe adapter work in powering the HAP AC? i.e one side into a netgar GS110tp - the other side into ether1 of the HAP.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:45 pm

Will the ubiquiti instant 802.3af to passive poe adapter work in powering the HAP AC? i.e one side into a netgar GS110tp - the other side into ether1 of the HAP.
Yes, that part should work fine. I'm currently powering my hAP AC and wAP AC using a Ubiquiti 24v passive injector, no issues.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:42 am

I had problems with the channel configuration (best performance 5GHz AC) and found this CAPsMAN Channels list.

Very helpful for the configuration

2.4 GHz Channels
/caps-man channel
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2412 name="channel-2.4-1" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2417 name="channel-2.4-2" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2422 name="channel-2.4-3" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2427 name="channel-2.4-4" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2432 name="channel-2.4-5" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2437 name="channel-2.4-6" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2442 name="channel-2.4-7" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2447 name="channel-2.4-8" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2452 name="channel-2.4-9" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2457 name="channel-2.4-10" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2462 name="channel-2.4-11" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2467 name="channel-2.4-12" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=disabled frequency=2472 name="channel-2.4-13" width=20

add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2412 name="channel-2.4-1-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2417 name="channel-2.4-2-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2422 name="channel-2.4-3-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2427 name="channel-2.4-4-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2432 name="channel-2.4-5-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2437 name="channel-2.4-6-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2442 name="channel-2.4-7-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2447 name="channel-2.4-8-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2452 name="channel-2.4-9-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2457 name="channel-2.4-10-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2462 name="channel-2.4-11-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2467 name="channel-2.4-12-eC" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=eC frequency=2472 name="channel-2.4-13-eC" width=20

add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2412 name="channel-2.4-1-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2417 name="channel-2.4-2-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2422 name="channel-2.4-3-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2427 name="channel-2.4-4-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2432 name="channel-2.4-5-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2437 name="channel-2.4-6-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2442 name="channel-2.4-7-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2447 name="channel-2.4-8-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2452 name="channel-2.4-9-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2457 name="channel-2.4-10-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2462 name="channel-2.4-11-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2467 name="channel-2.4-12-Ce" width=20
add band=2ghz-b/g/n extension-channel=Ce frequency=2472 name="channel-2.4-13-Ce" width=20
5 GHz Channels
/caps-man channel
add name="channel-5-36" frequency=5180 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=disabled
add name="channel-5-40" frequency=5200 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=disabled
add name="channel-5-44" frequency=5220 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=disabled
add name="channel-5-48" frequency=5240 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=disabled
add name="channel-5-52" frequency=5260 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=disabled
add name="channel-5-56" frequency=5270 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=disabled
add name="channel-5-60" frequency=5300 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=disabled
add name="channel-5-64" frequency=5320 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=disabled

add name="channel-5-36-Ce" frequency=5180 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ce
add name="channel-5-40-Ce" frequency=5200 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ce
add name="channel-5-44-Ce" frequency=5220 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ce
add name="channel-5-48-Ce" frequency=5240 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ce
add name="channel-5-52-Ce" frequency=5260 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ce
add name="channel-5-56-Ce" frequency=5270 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ce
add name="channel-5-60-Ce" frequency=5300 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ce
add name="channel-5-64-Ce" frequency=5320 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ce

add name="channel-5-36-eC" frequency=5180 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eC
add name="channel-5-40-eC" frequency=5200 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eC
add name="channel-5-44-eC" frequency=5220 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eC
add name="channel-5-48-eC" frequency=5240 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eC
add name="channel-5-52-eC" frequency=5260 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eC
add name="channel-5-56-eC" frequency=5270 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eC
add name="channel-5-60-eC" frequency=5300 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eC
add name="channel-5-64-eC" frequency=5320 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eC

add name="channel-5-36-Ceee" frequency=5180 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ceee
add name="channel-5-40-Ceee" frequency=5200 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ceee
add name="channel-5-44-Ceee" frequency=5220 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ceee
add name="channel-5-48-Ceee" frequency=5240 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ceee
add name="channel-5-52-Ceee" frequency=5260 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ceee
add name="channel-5-56-Ceee" frequency=5270 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ceee
add name="channel-5-60-Ceee" frequency=5300 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ceee
add name="channel-5-64-Ceee" frequency=5320 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=Ceee


add name="channel-5-36-eCee" frequency=5180 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eCee
add name="channel-5-40-eCee" frequency=5200 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eCee
add name="channel-5-44-eCee" frequency=5220 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eCee
add name="channel-5-48-eCee" frequency=5240 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eCee
add name="channel-5-52-eCee" frequency=5260 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eCee
add name="channel-5-56-eCee" frequency=5270 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eCee
add name="channel-5-60-eCee" frequency=5300 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eCee
add name="channel-5-64-eCee" frequency=5320 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eCee


add name="channel-5-36-eeCe" frequency=5180 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeCe
add name="channel-5-40-eeCe" frequency=5200 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeCe
add name="channel-5-44-eeCe" frequency=5220 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeCe
add name="channel-5-48-eeCe" frequency=5240 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeCe
add name="channel-5-52-eeCe" frequency=5260 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeCe
add name="channel-5-56-eeCe" frequency=5270 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeCe
add name="channel-5-60-eeCe" frequency=5300 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeCe
add name="channel-5-64-eeCe" frequency=5320 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeCe

add name="channel-5-36-eeeC" frequency=5180 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeeC
add name="channel-5-40-eeeC" frequency=5200 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeeC
add name="channel-5-44-eeeC" frequency=5220 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeeC
add name="channel-5-48-eeeC" frequency=5240 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeeC
add name="channel-5-52-eeeC" frequency=5260 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeeC
add name="channel-5-56-eeeC" frequency=5270 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeeC
add name="channel-5-60-eeeC" frequency=5300 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeeC
add name="channel-5-64-eeeC" frequency=5320 width=20 band=5ghz-a/n/ac extension-channel=eeeC
 
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Re: HAP AC

Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:33 pm

My hAP AC idles at 59 degrees Celsius in a room that is around 21. Is this normal?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:34 am

My hAP AC idles at 59 degrees Celsius in a room that is around 21. Is this normal?
Same here, and during high throughput transfers on 5Ghz it goes up to 70, and i get wifi disconnects than after 10-15mins..
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:34 am

Too bad, cannot post images in this board.
My hAP AC (located in Germany, room temperature, wall mounted) is at an average of 38°C over the last 3 month, about 6 clients connected, mostly idle.
My wAP AC (also Germany, room temperature, lying on a shelf) has an average of 54°C also over the last 3 month, about 0-2 clients conneted, mostly idle.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:35 am

None of these temperatures should pose any risks to the device. It works fine even up to 65C ambient temperature.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:48 am

None of these temperatures should pose any risks to the device. It works fine even up to 65C ambient temperature.
How about device it self?What temperatures are safe as i said i saw mine going to 70c(Room temperature below 25C) and than im getting wireless disconnects..
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:50 am

None of these temperatures should pose any risks to the device. It works fine even up to 65C ambient temperature.
How about device it self?What temperatures are safe as i said i saw mine going to 70c(Room temperature below 25C) and than im getting wireless disconnects..
55C is completely normal for the CPU, and can get higher. Disconnects should not be related, must be a coincidence. What do the Wireless Debug logs say about them? Which frequency are the clients using when they disconnect ?
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:15 am

None of these temperatures should pose any risks to the device. It works fine even up to 65C ambient temperature.
How about device it self?What temperatures are safe as i said i saw mine going to 70c(Room temperature below 25C) and than im getting wireless disconnects..
55C is completely normal for the CPU, and can get higher. Disconnects should not be related, must be a coincidence. What do the Wireless Debug logs say about them? Which frequency are the clients using when they disconnect ?
5GHz interface, disconnected extensive data loost is only thing in logs, than im unable connect back for about 2minutes back.I also tested this on stock rested HAP AC with default configuration without entering any settings.It also kicks ALL clients connected to interface not just one.

It happens when i transfer large files over network share(about 30gb of pst files), to a connected laptop equipped with dual chain AC, speeds go up to 400mbit/s during transfer and CPU usage is around 50% and it doesnt not go even near 100%, and i have NO other 5ghz networks in range.This doesnt happen on 2ghz interface, or when i connect slower 5ghz clients or single chain clients.

Also not sure how to capture logs when its random 10-30 mins of copy, and Supout runs for few sec only, is there a way to monitor entire process until it breaks?
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:26 am

The error indicates poor signal.
You can make a new logging topic to file (hAP ac has the space for this)

Like this:
screen 4.jpg
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Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:28 am

The error indicates poor signal.
You can make a new logging topic to file (hAP ac has the space for this)

Like this:

screen 4.jpg

screen 5.jpg
Your answer makes no sense, how would i achieve 400mbit per sec(up to 50MB per sec) transfer in low signal?

Im 3-4m form router, CCQ is near 100%, signal and everything is in perfect conditions.

I will try capture the logs as you described above and ill submit ticket
Thanks.
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Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:29 am

Interference can cause noise and disturb the signal. You don't have disconnects all the time. It could be many things
 
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Re: HAP AC

Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:47 pm

Hello,

just touching my new hAP ac and have a question on 5G-wireless:

I see it does not support tx power mode “card rates” or “manual”. I can only choose “all rates fixed”. As this is not recommended to use, how can I safely increase tx power to 200 or 500mW (23 or 27dBm). This is allowed where I live, depending on the frequency.

Edit: I just found out, that it seems handle transmit power according to regulatory-domain and frequency but I would say this is wrong:

5150-5250 - allowed: 200mW, hAP ac: 100mW
5250-5350 - allowed: 100mW (200mW only with TPC), hAP ac: 200mW
5470-5725 - allowed: 500mW (1000mW only with TPC), hAP ac: 500mW

So only the third range is correct. The first and second seem to be exchanged. Am I misinformed?

Also, “current tx power” shows an empty table at 5G-interface. On 2G-interface it is working.

Thanks a lot!
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:19 am

Hello everyone,

i used Mikrotik devices over the last couple years and they have been very stable for me.
My last configuration was my RB2011 as gateway and capsman in combination with a hAP Accesspoint.
This configuration was stable but my neighbors seems to get a new wlan ap or printer every day so there are 10+ wlans in 2.4GHz segment which results in poor performance.

So i decided to get a hAP AC and only use the 5GHz frequency. Everything worked perfect for 2 days but then the wireless startet flapping.
The SSID was sometimes not visible, then came back but the devices were unable to connect and then it disappeared again.
A reboot of the hAP AC resolves the problem for a short time and then it starts again. Unfortunately there were no entrys in the logs.
The Problem happens with and without capsman and only in 5GHz frequency. The 2.4 configuration is actually running stable.

It seems that there is a bug in ROS or a hardware fault...

I'm a network engineer and work mostly which Cisco or Brocade devices so i know what i'm doing.
I also send a supout to support but i don't think about getting a response before next year.

Configuration:
Frequency: 5500 Ceee
With: 20/40/80MHz
Country: Germany

ROS: 6.37.3

Thanks in advance!
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:47 pm

Did you check the wireless debug logs?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:05 pm

Hello everyone,

i used Mikrotik devices over the last couple years and they have been very stable for me.
My last configuration was my RB2011 as gateway and capsman in combination with a hAP Accesspoint.
This configuration was stable but my neighbors seems to get a new wlan ap or printer every day so there are 10+ wlans in 2.4GHz segment which results in poor performance.

So i decided to get a hAP AC and only use the 5GHz frequency. Everything worked perfect for 2 days but then the wireless startet flapping.
The SSID was sometimes not visible, then came back but the devices were unable to connect and then it disappeared again.
A reboot of the hAP AC resolves the problem for a short time and then it starts again. Unfortunately there were no entrys in the logs.
The Problem happens with and without capsman and only in 5GHz frequency. The 2.4 configuration is actually running stable.

It seems that there is a bug in ROS or a hardware fault...

I'm a network engineer and work mostly which Cisco or Brocade devices so i know what i'm doing.
I also send a supout to support but i don't think about getting a response before next year.

Configuration:
Frequency: 5500 Ceee
With: 20/40/80MHz
Country: Germany

ROS: 6.37.3

Thanks in advance!

Hi,

I had the same problem since it was introduced DFS automatic mode.
I returned to version 6.36.4 and everything seems ok.
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:12 pm

Did you check the wireless debug logs?
Not yet but i will start a debug log today in the evening.
I had the same problem since it was introduced DFS automatic mode.
I returned to version 6.36.4 and everything seems ok.
Thanks for this information. I start the debug log today and then try to downgrade to this version.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:45 pm

After starting the logging and activating 5GHz again with frequency "auto" it choosed 5500MHz and startet to act strange like before.

The wireless Debug log wasn't very helpful
Dec/19/2016 19:01:02 wireless,debug wlan2: 78:F8:82:D0:7E:50 attempts to associate
Dec/19/2016 19:01:02 wireless,debug wlan2: 78:F8:82:D0:7E:50 not in local ACL, by default accept
Dec/19/2016 19:01:55 wireless,debug wlan2: 78:F8:82:D0:7E:50 attempts to associate
Dec/19/2016 19:01:55 wireless,debug wlan2: 78:F8:82:D0:7E:50 not in local ACL, by default accept
Dec/19/2016 19:04:03 wireless,debug wlan2: E0:63:E5:D3:D9:2E attempts to associate
Dec/19/2016 19:04:03 wireless,debug wlan2: E0:63:E5:D3:D9:2E not in local ACL, by default accept
Dec/19/2016 19:32:26 wireless,debug wlan2: 78:F8:82:D0:7E:50 attempts to associate
Dec/19/2016 19:32:26 wireless,debug wlan2: 78:F8:82:D0:7E:50 not in local ACL, by default accept
Dec/19/2016 19:33:36 wireless,debug wlan2: 78:F8:82:D0:7E:50 attempts to associate
Dec/19/2016 19:33:36 wireless,debug wlan2: 78:F8:82:D0:7E:50 not in local ACL, by default accept
I've set frequency to 5260 and now i'm testing again.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:30 pm

Hello,

Are you going to release the HAP AC v2 with the more powerful hardware (CPU, more ram etc.)?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:34 am

I tried to use sfp port with this copper SFP GLC-T-A:
# monitor sfp1
sfp-connector-type: LC
sfp-link-length-copper: 100m
sfp-vendor-name: CISCO-FINISAR
sfp-vendor-part-number: SFP-T
sfp-vendor-revision: 11.0
sfp-vendor-serial: MTC100810350
sfp-manufacturing-date: 10-10-18
eeprom-checksum: good
{skip}
without certain success. In general, this transceiver didn't work with hap ac for me but one time i had successful link (1G) to my book Acer V5-573G (RTL8411). Not sure what happens in this case, seems link up immediately after hard reboot of device, but it can't reproduce it again. I suspect that it's looks like auto-negotiation issue.
When i insert this modue into CRS210 (into sfp-sfpplus1 port) - all works fine.

Do i have a chance with hap ac and this copper module (i tried any possible variations with auto-negotiation on/off and manual defining speed/duplex on a both sides).
Or just stop doing wrong and buy S-RJ01?

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Re: HAP AC

Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:58 pm

I've got S-RJ01 for testing. Native copper module works fine with hap ac.
I tried to use sfp port with this copper SFP GLC-T-A:
Do i have a chance with hap ac and this copper module (i tried any possible variations with auto-negotiation on/off and manual defining speed/duplex on a both sides).
Or just stop doing wrong and buy S-RJ01?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:58 pm

Once HapAC is placed in CAPs mode, it is no more seen on /ip neighbor table
Turned back in stand-alone mode it is seen again
Is it a normal behaviour ?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:05 pm

There is a device (Amazon Fire) which disconnects and connects continuously, is there a way to make it stable? Another, thing is that , I use a broadband connection which prone to disconnection , with my previous router whenever something happens with the internet connection there is "Yellow triangle" appears on the system tray of my windows computer. So, I could know that there is nothing wrong with my end, so I can call the ISP to fix the issue. But, since upgrading to hAP AC, its always connected, whether there is internet connection or not. So, How can I make that yellow triangle appear when there is no internet connection.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:59 pm

Is this device faulty fixed, or still have issues with WAN to LAN speeds? Anyone with newer production batch to tell me?
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:04 pm

Is this device faulty fixed, or still have issues with WAN to LAN speeds? Anyone with newer production batch to tell me?
There is a problem in the transition from the WAN (L2TP) local area network
Download speed 40 Mbps maximum outbound 90 Mbps.
When channel 100 Mbps
But best from the device shows 90/90
 
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Re: HAP AC

Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:09 pm

I tried to use sfp port with this copper SFP GLC-T-A:
# monitor sfp1
sfp-connector-type: LC
sfp-link-length-copper: 100m
sfp-vendor-name: CISCO-FINISAR
sfp-vendor-part-number: SFP-T
sfp-vendor-revision: 11.0
sfp-vendor-serial: MTC100810350
sfp-manufacturing-date: 10-10-18
eeprom-checksum: good
{skip}
without certain success. In general, this transceiver didn't work with hap ac for me but one time i had successful link (1G) to my book Acer V5-573G (RTL8411). Not sure what happens in this case, seems link up immediately after hard reboot of device, but it can't reproduce it again. I suspect that it's looks like auto-negotiation issue.
When i insert this modue into CRS210 (into sfp-sfpplus1 port) - all works fine.

Do i have a chance with hap ac and this copper module (i tried any possible variations with auto-negotiation on/off and manual defining speed/duplex on a both sides).
Or just stop doing wrong and buy S-RJ01?
The same. HAP AC, 6.40.4 Tried several different copper SFP without success. Here are two of them:
                    status: no-link
          auto-negotiation: done
               advertising: 
  link-partner-advertising: 
        sfp-module-present: yes
               sfp-rx-loss: no
                  sfp-type: SFP-or-SFP+
    sfp-link-length-copper: 100m
           sfp-vendor-name: FINISAR CORP.
    sfp-vendor-part-number: FCLF-8521-3
       sfp-vendor-revision: A
         sfp-vendor-serial: PL53JUK
    sfp-manufacturing-date: 11-07-29
           eeprom-checksum: good
                    eeprom: 0000: 03 04 00 00 00 00 08 00  00 00 00 01 0c 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            0010: 00 00 64 00 46 49 4e 49  53 41 52 20 43 4f 52 50  ..d.FINI SAR CORP
                            0020: 2e 20 20 20 00 00 90 65  46 43 4c 46 2d 38 35 32  .   ...e FCLF-852
                            0030: 31 2d 33 20 20 20 20 20  41 20 20 20 00 00 00 1c  1-3      A   ....
                            0040: 00 10 00 00 50 4c 35 33  4a 55 4b 20 20 20 20 20  ....PL53 JUK     
                            0050: 20 20 20 20 31 31 30 37  32 39 20 20 00 00 00 92      1107 29  ....
                            0060: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            0070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            0090: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00a0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00e0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........

                      name: sfp1
                    status: no-link
          auto-negotiation: done
               advertising: 
  link-partner-advertising: 
        sfp-module-present: yes
               sfp-rx-loss: no
                  sfp-type: SFP-or-SFP+
    sfp-link-length-copper: 100m
           sfp-vendor-name: FOUNDRY NETWORKS
    sfp-vendor-part-number: ABCU-5700RZ-FD
         sfp-vendor-serial: AN09337041
    sfp-manufacturing-date: 09-08-16
           eeprom-checksum: good
                    eeprom: 0000: 03 04 00 00 00 00 08 00  00 00 00 01 0d 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            0010: 00 00 64 00 46 4f 55 4e  44 52 59 20 4e 45 54 57  ..d.FOUN DRY NETW
                            0020: 4f 52 4b 53 00 00 17 6a  41 42 43 55 2d 35 37 30  ORKS...j ABCU-570
                            0030: 30 52 5a 2d 46 44 20 20  20 20 20 20 00 00 00 fd  0RZ-FD       ....
                            0040: 00 12 00 00 41 4e 30 39  33 33 37 30 34 31 20 20  ....AN09 337041  
                            0050: 20 20 20 20 30 39 30 38  31 36 20 20 00 00 00 74      0908 16  ...t
                            0060: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20                   
                            0070: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20                   
                            0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            0090: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00a0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00e0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
                            00f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
First model (FCLF-8521-3) is listed at:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Peripherals

Update: this is a autonegotiation problem, indeed. I was able to get link when I had pulled off the sfp, switched autonegotiation: off, speed: 1G, full duplex: yes, and then inserted the sfp again.

Thanks to the guy who described this procedure somewhere in russian forum.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:51 pm

Working temperature on my HAP AC is not going under 29 Celsius.

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So for so good for me.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Tue May 29, 2018 10:18 am

Hi. Help me please. I have HAP AC and iPhone 5s. iPhone 5s support 5Ghz, but I can`t connect my iPhone 5s to 5Ghz, to have maximum wifi speed. Here is my wifi settings:

[mikrotik@user] > /interface wireless security-profiles print where name=profile1
Flags: * - default
0 name="profile1" mode=dynamic-keys authentication-types=wpa2-psk unicast-ciphers=aes-ccm group-ciphers=aes-ccm wpa-pre-shared-key="" wpa2-pre-shared-key="p123456789" supplicant-identity="mikrotik" eap-methods=passthrough
tls-mode=no-certificates tls-certificate=none mschapv2-username="" mschapv2-password="" static-algo-0=none static-key-0="" static-algo-1=none static-key-1="" static-algo-2=none static-key-2="" static-algo-3=none static-key-3=""
static-transmit-key=key-0 static-sta-private-algo=none static-sta-private-key="" radius-mac-authentication=no radius-mac-accounting=no radius-eap-accounting=no interim-update=0s radius-mac-format=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX radius-mac-mode=as-use
radius-mac-caching=disabled group-key-update=5m management-protection=disabled management-protection-key=""
[mikrotik@user] > /interface wireless print where name=wlan2
Flags: X - disabled, R - running
0 R name="wlan2" mtu=1500 l2mtu=1600 mac-address=E4:8D:8C:53:82:0E arp=enabled interface-type=Atheros AR9888 mode=ap-bridge ssid="5Ghz" frequency=auto band=5ghz-onlyac channel-width=20/40/80mhz-Ceee secondary-channel="" scan-list=default
wireless-protocol=any vlan-mode=no-tag vlan-id=1 wds-mode=disabled wds-default-bridge=none wds-ignore-ssid=no bridge-mode=enabled default-authentication=yes default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-client-tx-limit=0 hide-ssid=yes
security-profile=profile1 compression=no

I connect my iPhone 5s to airCubeAC (Ubiquiti) on 5Ghz and I got speed 88\76. Please tell me the best 5Ghz wifi settings for maximus speed on iPhone 5s.
If I'm not mistaken iPhone 5s have Broadcom BCM4334. On 2.4 Ghz WiFi works fine (I mean DHCP and other services works pretty well).
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Re: HAP AC

Tue May 29, 2018 11:31 am

No. The iPhone 5s supports only 802.11a/b/g/n and has no MIMO technology.
You enabled "only-ac" which the iPhone 5s does not support. It would work at 80Mbit in 802.11n mode.
 
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Re: HAP AC

Tue May 29, 2018 12:53 pm

Like this?
[mikrotik@user] > /interface wireless set [find default-name=wlan2] band=5ghz-n/ac country=ukraine default-authentication=\
yes default-forwarding=yes frequency=auto mode=ap-bridge security-profile=profile1 ssid=5Ghz bridge-mode=enabled wireless-protocol=\
any scan-list=default wps-mode=push-button vlan-mode=no-tag vlan-id=1 hide-ssid=yes channel-width=20/40/80mhz-Ceee
/interface wireless enable wlan2
And what about: channel-width=20/40/80mhz-Ceee - correct option?

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