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MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:34 pm
by eki_yu
Hello everyone,

I've purchased a q-ty of AR5414 cards for 5GHz links, chip says AR5414, but microtik says it is a AR5413 card and it doesn't run on 5 GHz.

The documentation says that this chip is supported, and I've seen posts of people using it.

here is the picture of the card:
Image
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Is there solution for this problem ?

BTW, I have found this line for windows drivers about this card:
"About AR5006X and AR5006XS: they may both recognized by the driver as 'AR5006X' but only AR5006XS model supports Supper A/G 108Mbps mode."

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:56 am
by normis
all Atheros cards will show up as 5413, that's normal.

about 5Ghz - show us your "/interface wireless print" output

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:14 pm
by eki_yu
1 name="wlan1" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:60:B3:AC:AB:74 arp=enabled
interface-type=Atheros AR5413 mode=ap-bridge ssid="MikroTik"
frequency=2412 band=2.4ghz-b scan-list=default antenna-mode=ant-a
wds-mode=disabled wds-default-bridge=none wds-ignore-ssid=no
default-authentication=yes default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0
default-client-tx-limit=0 hide-ssid=no security-profile=default
compression=no
2 name="wlan2" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:60:B3:AC:AC:66 arp=enabled
interface-type=Atheros AR5413 mode=ap-bridge ssid="MikroTik"
frequency=2412 band=2.4ghz-b scan-list=default antenna-mode=ant-a
wds-mode=disabled wds-default-bridge=none wds-ignore-ssid=no
default-authentication=yes default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0
default-client-tx-limit=0 hide-ssid=no security-profile=default

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:29 am
by normis
what options do you have in the "band" setting? also do this command instead:
[admin@MikroTik] > interface wireless print advanced

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:56 pm
by eki_yu
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Flags: X - disabled, R - running
0 name="wlan1" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:60:B3:AC:AC:5F arp=enabled
disable-running-check=no interface-type=Atheros AR5413
radio-name="0060B3ACAC5F" mode=ap-bridge ssid="MT" area=""
frequency-mode=manual-txpower country=no_country_set antenna-gain=0
frequency=2412 band=2.4ghz-b scan-list=default rate-set=default
supported-rates-b=1Mbps,2Mbps,5.5Mbps,11Mbps
supported-rates-a/g=6Mbps,9Mbps,12Mbps,18Mbps,24Mbps,36Mbps,48Mbps,
54Mbps
basic-rates-b=1Mbps basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps max-station-count=2007
ack-timeout=dynamic tx-power-mode=default noise-floor-threshold=default
periodic-calibration=default periodic-calibration-interval=60
burst-time=disabled dfs-mode=none antenna-mode=ant-a wds-mode=disabled
wds-default-bridge=none wds-default-cost=100 wds-cost-range=50-150
wds-ignore-ssid=no update-stats-interval=disabled
default-authentication=yes default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0
default-client-tx-limit=0 proprietary-extensions=post-2.9.25
wmm-support=disabled hide-ssid=no security-profile=default
disconnect-timeout=3s on-fail-retry-time=100ms preamble-mode=both
compression=no allow-sharedkey=no
station-bridge-clone-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 hw-retries=4
frame-lifetime=0 adaptive-noise-immunity=none
-- [Q quit|D dump|down]

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:38 am
by normis
did you set the band to 5Ghz ?

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:13 am
by uldis
Execute this command and post it here:
/interface wireless info print

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:50 pm
by eki_yu
0 interface-type=Atheros AR5413
chip-info="mac:0xa/0x5, phy:0x61, a5:0x63, a2:0x0, eeprom:0x5003"
pci-info="00:12.0" capabilities=tx-power-control,ack-timeout-control,
virtual-ap,alignment-mode,noise-floor-
control,scanning,burst-support,nstreme,
sniffing,power-channel,wmm
default-periodic-calibration=enabled
supported-bands=2ghz-b,2ghz-g,2ghz-g-turbo,2ghz-10mhz,2ghz-5mhz
2ghz-b-channels=2412:0,2417:0,2422:0,2427:0,2432:0,2437:0,2442:0,2447:0,
2452:0,2457:0,2462:0
2ghz-g-channels=2412:0,2417:0,2422:0,2427:0,2432:0,2437:0,2442:0,2447:0,
2452:0,2457:0,2462:0
2ghz-g-turbo-channels=2437:0
2ghz-10mhz-power-channels=2412:0,2417:0,2422:0,2427:0,2432:0,2437:0,2442:0,
2447:0,2452:0,2457:0,2462:0
2ghz-5mhz-power-channels=2412:0,2417:0,2422:0,2427:0,2432:0,2437:0,2442:0,
2447:0,2452:0,2457:0,2462:0
1 interface-type=Atheros AR5413
chip-info="mac:0xa/0x5, phy:0x61, a5:0x63, a2:0x0, eeprom:0x5003"
pci-info="00:13.0" capabilities=tx-power-control,ack-timeout-control,
virtual-ap,alignment-mode,noise-floor-
control,scanning,burst-support,nstreme,
-- [Q quit|D dump|down]

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:53 pm
by eki_yu
No other card requires any extra settings to allow change to 5GHz ....
What can I do to force it to use 5 GHz ?

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:28 am
by thadem
you bought a card with a incomplete eeprom. the 5ghz band is not supported by it and you can't change that. blame the seller and give them back and buy r52 or r5h or ub5. even if they are 10 $ more they are alll worth the money.

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:12 pm
by NetworkPro
No solution to flash a working firmware? Will firmware from another brand and same chipset work? Or a MikroTik RouterOS workaround? I have an old 3Com Prism II that I flashed under Win32 and I think firmware is not OK currently, since wireless security over it is not working...

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:30 pm
by aaa
Hi,if you remove Rf shield and make photo as large as possible I can answer can it work on 5GHz or not. If there no 5GHz parts it will never work on 5GHz

Re: MT3.16 on RB433 - AR5414 is recognised as AR5413-no 5GHz :(

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:38 pm
by roc-noc.com
No other card requires any extra settings to allow change to 5GHz ....
What can I do to force it to use 5 GHz ?
Not true. Ubiquiti cards are limited through their ERPOMs. i.e. the xr2 does not support 5GHz even though is uses AR5414 chip set.

You have to know what you buy. Look for support 802.11b/g + a. Why not use the R52 which is very inexpensive and has all frequency support?

Tom