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I can't use the FTC, it's basically worthless

Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:46 am

I don't understand this product.

I have a fiber to the home ISP that I own/operate.

Our fiber comes up in conduit from the curb, into an outdoor rated box.
In that box is a splice tray where we fuse a LC pigtail onto the fiber run from the conduit.

Then we plug that into an SFP module which plugs into an RB260GS.
Then we connect that to the home ethernet, powered inside by a GigE POE.

Works very well, but for the fact the RB260GS can't do per port bandwidth shaping, only on one direction.

For the FTC to be useful to us it needs to be larger, with enough room for our fiber guys to connect it to our 1" conduit.
It has to hold a small part of the full fiber, plus have a splice tray to hold the stripped out fiber leads and the pig tail that is fused on.

Otherwise, we get a lot more functionality out of the RB260GS
 
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Re: I can't use the FTC, it's basically worthless

Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:56 am

I guess what I'm saying is I would buy a FTC as modified above even if it costs double what the current FTC costs.

Additionally I would love it if it had similar SWOS capabilites of the 260GS (even though it only has two ports).

But if it's passthrough, that's still ok with me.

And I would like one with SFP+ port.

I guess it would be nice if there were a new ethernet standard that was 2-5Gbps instead of the full 10Gbps.
Then I could plug it into an SFP+ 10Gbps module, and deliver the customer over 1Gbps on copper.

But I don't think that standard exists yet, right?
 
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Re: I can't use the FTC, it's basically worthless

Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:27 am

The FTC is purely meant to run as a media converter, with an outdoor case. it does that. What you are asking for is more specialised, and routing/switching capability which turns it from a relatively dumb device to a smart device, and would blow the cost through the roof.
 
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Re: I can't use the FTC, it's basically worthless

Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:50 am

The FTC is purely meant to run as a media converter, with an outdoor case. it does that. What you are asking for is more specialised, and routing/switching capability which turns it from a relatively dumb device to a smart device, and would blow the cost through the roof.
True, but it's of absolutely no value to my deployment.

I guess the scenarios where someone is doing 100Mbps or less and using exposed drop cable without conduit is where this might work.

I don't think the costs would explode like you say though.

It cost $40 for a RB260GS.

It's a full fledged 1Gbps transceiver with SWOS and 5 GigE ports.

Reduce the port count to one SFP and one GigE with PoE in and put it in a suitable outdoor case that is large enough to have a splice tray and fiber loop in it.

BAM, done.

I'll take that for $80-$100 all day long.
So will about 1000 other fiber providers I bet.

Really, to be quite honest, if they took the RB260GS as is, and repackaged it in a larger outdoor enclosure with splice tray etc as described, and sold it for $80-$100 I would buy it all day long too. Even though I don't need that many GigE ports.

I think they just didn't think on this one or consult real fiber providers.

Even indoors, you need a splice tray, so requiring another enclosure.
Google is like that, Utopia is like that. Verizon is like that, AT&T is like that.
These aren't small providers. They should have looked closer at existing ONT scenarios.
 
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Re: I can't use the FTC, it's basically worthless

Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:53 am

To be fair, it's not just Mirkotik that got it wrong.

UBNT tried to make one with an integrated BIDI SFP.

It was compatible with my system and BIDI's, but wasn't even outdoor enclosure and limited to 100Mbps SFP.
Come on, if you're putting in fiber, you need the ONT to be Gigabit.
Honestly the cost difference is a few bucks per unit.

UBNT also wasn't PoE in which was a complete joke.

I think they thought fiber was running into the house/unit and plugging into the wall.

But again they missed the mark.
The easiest in place deployment of fiber is to the side of the house and then transceive to ethernet.
In our neck of the woods most homes already have Ethernet to the side of the house going in.

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