hm..it's my understanding that traffic from ports 1-5 to ports 6-10 11 12 13 and is limited to .25-1GB as it has to be CPU switched. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Routers are for routing and switches are for swithing. RB1100 is a router and according to benchmark it has routing capacity of ~2Gbps. Hence, 2xGigE bonded interfaces should be enough for this purpose.

Hi all,

For all those asking for SFPs (including myself), I just bumped into this platform, looks ideal for RouterOS...
http://www.advantech.com/products/FWA-6 ... SQLLN.aspx

I have access to a couple of these boxes, I'll try to build a test RouterOS setup with it and see how it goes.

My first impression is that this device should be quite expensive ($4k and more) while RB1100 expected price is something around $400-$500. Why to pay more when you can pay less ?

Why to pay more when you can pay less ?

Because you get
- hot swap HDDs (will try to check if there's hardware RAID and if it's supported inside MT)
- internal CF for RouterOS, so you can dedicate the HDDs to cache or userman
- 4x SFPs + 4x Gigabit
- redundant PSUs
- PCI slots for expansion
- dual xeon CPUs

You don't get anything of that on the RB1k/RB1100, and $4K is not too much when you see what it's competing against. Cisco or Juniper will sell you a unit with almost the same functionality and half the performance at that price.

It's quite obvious that this is not something which you would put at your customer's end or use as an AP, there are RBs which can do that job very well. This -like the RB1K series- was made to sit in your datacenter and munch at your core traffic with ease.

hm..it's my understanding that traffic from ports 1-5 to ports 6-10 11 12 13 and is limited to .25-1GB as it has to be CPU switched. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Routers are for routing and switches are for swithing. RB1100 is a router and according to benchmark it has routing capacity of ~2Gbps. Hence, 2xGigE bonded interfaces should be enough for this purpose.

I think you're wrong on bonded interface. The design is most likely based on 6 port switch chip - not enough ports to spare for bonded interface. Most likely it is 1GB (FDX) to each switch chip.

Hi all,

For all those asking for SFPs (including myself), I just bumped into this platform, looks ideal for RouterOS...
http://www.advantech.com/products/FWA-6 ... SQLLN.aspx

I have access to a couple of these boxes, I'll try to build a test RouterOS setup with it and see how it goes.

That is an interesting box. How much is it?

We have built several MikroTik boxes using Intel motherboards & CPUs and for the past year or two have been using the Silicom PCIx & PCIe NICs with 2, 4 and 6 SFP slots. Pretty slick and they work great with RouterOS.

It's handy to be able to swap out a Multi-Mode SFP module with a Single-Mode SFP module without so much as a reboot. All hot swap...we've even used the Copper GigE SFPs in our Silicom NICs loaded into a MikroTik box. The MAC is tied to the SFP port and not the SFP module you have plugged into it. We have been purchasing our Silicom SFP NICs direct from Silicom, so after you're done finding your best price on a 6 port SFP NIC feel free to shoot me an email. We've got a few extra that we're willing to part with.

Best,

Brad

and is limited to .25-1GB as it has to be CPU switched

and how did you come up with these numbers ?

and is limited to .25-1GB as it has to be CPU switched

and how did you come up with these numbers ?

sorry- I meant to write .25-1Gb... ...numbers are of RB1000 which you said is comparable to RB1100

RB1100 has 13 ports

Switch GROUP1 is connected to the CPU via one line, these 5 ports share 1Gbit full duplex.
Switch GROUP2 is connected to the CPU via one line, these 5 ports share 1Gbit full duplex.

If you use switch feature within one of these groups, between the ports inside group, you will get wire speed throghput (maximum possible). This is because connection from eth1 to eth2 will go not through CPU but through Switch chip.

The 3 other ports have each a dedicated PCI-e line to the CPU.

So you have several options to connect higher priority connections to faster ports.

It would be pretty awesome if Mikrotik built a new "enterprise/telco" grade router around the new LSI Axxia processors. Up to 4 PowerPC cores, and PCI-Express v1/2 and support for 2x 10gbit PHY's with up to 20gbit wirespeed packet processing:

http://www.lsi.com/networking_home/netw ... index.html

Dreams are free right ?

On april 1st, anything is possible

On april 1st, anything is possible

\o/

Hi everyone!

is there anything about the release date of the RB1100?

Regards!

There was a slight delay in the production, but it's coming. Within one month I believe.

We need more processing of SFP and also, we expected more from RB in 1100, the way and hope they hear our requests and everything is resolved in a later model =)

Our first RB1100 stock arrived last night and we started shipping our pre-orders today.

Not much time to play but a few observations:

Really nice enclosure. Slightly deeper than the RB1000U. Heavier feel.

The CPU is factory set to 800MHz. OC to 1000MHz. I guess they are using the same version CPU as in the RB800 and not the 1GHz version.

Although the SODIMM slot and memory options are the same as the RB1000, not all of my SODIMMs worked for RAM expansion. Some 2GB modules that worked fine with the RB1000 prevent the RB1100 from posting.

2 small case fans, a big CPU heatsink, and a shroud should keep this really cool.

Only one microSD slot has a socket. The other PCB location is not populated.

I guess it's time to update the data sheet Normis.

Tom

What version ROS is preinstalled on rb1100 ?

v4.x is installed on all RouterBOARD 1000, first boards may come with 4.6/4.7/4.8, then they will come with 4.9.

Mine came with 4.8. I upgraded to 4.9 on the units I bench tested.

Tom

to Sergejs:

please add rb1100 to http://www.routerboard.com/pricelist.php

Although the SODIMM slot and memory options are the same as the RB1000, not all of my SODIMMs worked for RAM expansion. Some 2GB modules that worked fine with the RB1000 prevent the RB1100 from posting.

Which appears to be in direct contradiction to http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=41533...

I guess it's time to update the data sheet Normis.

With correct data please!

P.S. Tom, is there any chance of you disclosing which DIMMs worked in the RB1100 and which didn't ?

Regards,
Terry Froy
Spilsby Internet Solutions

Although the SODIMM slot and memory options are the same as the RB1000, not all of my SODIMMs worked for RAM expansion. Some 2GB modules that worked fine with the RB1000 prevent the RB1100 from posting.

Which appears to be in direct contradiction to http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=41533...

I guess it's time to update the data sheet Normis.

With correct data please!

P.S. Tom, is there any chance of you disclosing which DIMMs worked in the RB1100 and which didn't ?

Regards,
Terry Froy
Spilsby Internet Solutions

It is not a pretty picture. At this point I don't have confidence in any RAM other than the stock 512MB modules.

Answered in more detail in the RB1100 RAM topic http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=41533

Many thanks,

Tom

FWIW I had to reinstall the OS on one the RB1100s today. I quickly discovered that you need to plug into port 13 to run Netinstall on the RB1100.

Tom

+1 to SFPs as we normally use them in larger lan networks, edge switches all ethernet backing onto a fibre core network, then we have to convert back to ethernet again from the core switch to connect to the Mikrotik.

In that sense, something similar to the RB1100 with 2 x SFP slots would be nice as it allows you to connect into a fully redundant fibre network and leaves some local ethernet available for other servers in the rack.

honzam, we are working on it, it will be available today or Monday.

roc-noc.com what was the reason for the reinstall?

honzam, we are working on it, it will be available today or Monday.

roc-noc.com what was the reason for the reinstall?

I bumped it during the 4.9 upgrade and the loose power cord caused a reboot.

Tom

Hello,

Have question about this unit. The switch port groups kinda confuse me on this product. I want to be sure that every port can be setup as routed interfaces with different IPs on each... This is possible like every other routerboard right? Hopefully the switch ports do not prohibit this usage and are there for wire speed if you indeed use them in switch configuration....

Thanks

Scott

You can use every port in the switch groups as routed interface (therefore having 13 routed ethernet interfaces),
but every switch group is only connected with 1 gbit to the cpu.
So full wire speed on every port is not possible, if all ports in a switch group are fully loaded (and the traffic has to go through cpu) they will share the 1 gbit connection, resulting in ~200 megabits per port.

Well those ~200Mbps per port is only in case all ports suddenly requires that about of traffic.

Switch group ports have 1Gpbs upload and 1Gbps download at their disposal, if one of the ports uses only 50Mbps up/down, other 4 ports will have 950Mbps more to divide.

And i do not see any problem with this limitation, cause it is corresponding to CPU/memory throughput - less than 3Gbps

Right now RouterBOARD 1100 brochure and short information are available at www.routerboard.com

You should contact distributors and ask them about it.

Awesome, I received 3 Routerboard 1100's today! I wish they had SFP ports

maxrate, great that you received new RouterBOARDs. SFP port would not allow the price, RB1100 has sold currently.

maxrate, great that you received new RouterBOARDs. SFP port would not allow the price, RB1100 has sold currently.

So why not make a second version that includes the SFP ports a lot of forum members are asking for and sell it at a higher price, just as the tranditional router and switch companies like Cisco, Juniper, Foundry/Brocade, Extreme and Dell do?

Currently there is no such product, we are researching it for the future.

Awesome, I received 3 Routerboard 1100's today! I wish they had SFP ports

Ethernet to fiber converters doesn't cost much today.

Awesome, I received 3 Routerboard 1100's today! I wish they had SFP ports

Ethernet to fiber converters doesn't cost much today.

But they are bulky and external. It's easy to knock them if you are using the little standalone ones that take a 5v DC power supply brick or whatever so you end up accidentally disconnecting the fibre/copper/power from them. They are also another potential point of failure.

Chassis based converts solve this, but are more expensive and take up much more space - not great if you only need a few fibre ports and the rest as copper.
With SFP ports on the router, you can always put a 1000baseT module in and terminate copper directly on the router for the ports you don't need as fibre. Yes it costs more, but I haven't seen anyone here saying that they want SFP ports at RB1100 prices.

Awesome, I received 3 Routerboard 1100's today! I wish they had SFP ports

Ethernet to fiber converters doesn't cost much today.

But they are bulky and external. It's easy to knock them if you are using the little standalone ones that take a 5v DC power supply brick or whatever so you end up accidentally disconnecting the fibre/copper/power from them. They are also another potential point of failure.

Chassis based converts solve this, but are more expensive and take up much more space - not great if you only need a few fibre ports and the rest as copper.
With SFP ports on the router, you can always put a 1000baseT module in and terminate copper directly on the router for the ports you don't need as fibre. Yes it costs more, but I haven't seen anyone here saying that they want SFP ports at RB1100 prices.

And we need these converters with extended Temperature Range and Gigabit
for our Tower installations.
These aren't cheap at all and need extra space and cabling.
We're happy avoiding every additional piece of hardware.

We would pay the offset for SFP-Ports.

What we would like to see also is a RB1100 which is able to feed power
to the Ethernet compatible with Routerboards.

If you look into our tower installations you see a lot of cable and poe-injectors
and converters and Powersupplies flying around. You need to be very carefully
to not accidently pull a powerplug out of a injector. I would like to see one RB1100
with one cablerun to each Sector/PTP-Link.

maxrate, great that you received new RouterBOARDs. SFP port would not allow the price, RB1100 has sold currently.

Maybe GBIC would be cheaper?

It was just a suggestion to use a media converter since it's the only option right now. Can't you use a switch, why do you need SFP in your router? I've done thousands of installations, and I've never seen a server room without a switch with SFP ports. For some installations, I use cheap $500 D-Link DGS-1224TP switches. This switch has 24 10/100/1000BASE-T PoE, and four SFP ports. It's also manageable and has many features like QoS VLAN etc.

It was just a suggestion to use a media converter since it's the only option right now. Can't you use a switch, why do you need SFP in your router? I've done thousands of installations, and I've never seen a server room without a switch with SFP ports. For some installations, I use cheap $500 D-Link DGS-1224TP switches. This switch has 24 10/100/1000BASE-T PoE, and four SFP ports. It's also manageable and has many features like QoS VLAN etc.

You can use a switch, but then you either have to LACP multiple ports or put up with having a single gigabit port as a bottleneck. You also still have another single point of failure - the switch.

You can use a switch, but then you either have to LACP multiple ports or put up with having a single gigabit port as a bottleneck.

Really? I think the bottleneck is the RB1100, not the switch. You can bond several ports, and I doubt RB1100 can handle this traffic.

You also still have another single point of failure - the switch.

Okey, but if your network is so important, then you should have a redundance system. I've never seen a such system without a bunch of network gears.

You can use a switch, but then you either have to LACP multiple ports or put up with having a single gigabit port as a bottleneck.

Really? I think the bottleneck is the RB1100, not the switch. You can bond several ports, and I doubt RB1100 can handle this traffic.

Well if I have 2x1Gbps fibre ports that need to talk to each via the router (routed VLANs etc) than they are sharing a single 1Gbps link from the router to the switch. Apparently the RB1100 can do about 2-3Gbps.

You also still have another single point of failure - the switch.

Have you heard the definition "single point of failure"? If one unit fail, the entire network will fail.

If you have two devices, either of which is a single point of failure, then the probability of the failure of either (which will cause a complete outage and thus a failure of the "system") is greatly increased compared to if you have a single device which is a single point of failure. Basic statistics.

You are also still increasing space, power usage and the time/effort needed for management.

A single unit is worse than as a system with many units, the failure of one unit will disable the entire system. If a single unit fail, then you also need to reconfigure everything.

Of experience, I prefere to have several units than one single unit, even the efforts of more units to manage. If you have a serious business, then you should have redundance in your network, and that involves several units.

A single unit is worse than as a system with many units, the failure of one unit will disable the entire system. If a single unit fail, then you also need to reconfigure everything.

Of experience, I prefere to have several units than one single unit, even the efforts of more units to manage. If you have a serious business, then you should have redundance in your network, and that involves several units.

But you aren't talking about redundancy in this case, you are talking about using a switch as a fibre converter. That means you now have two units doing the same overall job (terminating fibre connections and routing the traffic on them) rather than a single unit in the case of having a RouterBOARD with SFP ports. Now the failure of either the switch or the RouterBOARD will cause a failure, which is statistically more likely than the failure of just one integrated device doing a job.

This has nothing to do with redundancy (which you should of course always build in - hence why we use multiple devices in VRRP pairs or with iBGP sessions to each) but it about the likelihood of the failure of a single logical system through the loss of one physical part of that logical system.
Even if you have two switches and two RouterBOARDs set up in a high availability pair, then you are still more likely to suffer the failure of any one physical part of each logical system (either the switch or the RouterBOARD) than if you have a single integrated unit performing both functions. In turn, this means that you are statistically more likely to have a failure affecting both logical parts of the system at the same time (e.g. the loss of one part of both devices in a VRRP pair)!

A fiber module is also a single point of failure. If you talk about probability, a fiber module is the first thing to fail. It doesn't matter if it's in the router, or outside in a box.

If it's so important with a single unit, just buy a firewall appliance from Lanner or Acrosser and install RouterOS.

If I were you, I would buy a media converter and modify my RB1100.

A fiber module is also a single point of failure. If you talk about probability, a fiber module is the first thing to fail. It doesn't matter if it's in the router, or outside in a box.

That's not going to change between an SFP in the switch or in the router though.

If it's so important with a single unit, just buy a firewall appliance from Lanner or Acrosser and install RouterOS.

Kind of missing the point, the whole reason we were discussing it was because lots of people want Mikrotik to build one so you get the single vendor support of an embedded system. There are plenty of work around, but the question was why aren't Mikrotik making the option available to their customers that clearly want it.

If I were you, I would buy a media converter and modify my RB1100.

Actually, I don't have a need for SFP ports in the RB1100 at the moment, I was just replying to Mikrotik who in turn were replying to someone that did.

Kind of missing the point, the whole reason we were discussing it was because lots of people want Mikrotik to build one so you get the single vendor support of an embedded system. There are plenty of work around, but the question was why aren't Mikrotik making the option available to their customers that clearly want it.

Like you, arguing with me when like I'm toatal against the idea. I just wanted to inform of alternatives, since there is no MikroTik routers with SFP ports at the moment (probably not for many years). I also searched the forum, and it's basicly the same person whining and moaning that he need to connect his router to STM-1 and SFP lines.

Actually, I don't have a need for SFP ports in the RB1100 at the moment, I was just replying to Mikrotik who in turn were replying to someone that did.

I think most people don't want it due to the increased price tag. I remember one guy in this forum asked if there is an Interface Card that he could use with MikroTik to be able to use his new OC-3 Line. I offered him a cheap solution to his issue, but he completely rejected it and shout out "OFF TO CISCO".

A RAD media converter from Giga Ethernet to STM-1/OC-3 cost around €500, and one Axiom SFP-OC3-SR-AX module to a switch cost around €150.

A Cisco 1-Port Channelized STM-1/OC-3 line card adapter cost around €32,400.00 (List Price). Then you need a Cisco router to plug in this line card adapter.

But the guy wasn't satisfied, with my answer, because he replied with "OFF TO CISCO".

Kind of missing the point, the whole reason we were discussing it was because lots of people want Mikrotik to build one so you get the single vendor support of an embedded system. There are plenty of work around, but the question was why aren't Mikrotik making the option available to their customers that clearly want it.

Like you, arguing with me when like I'm toatal against the idea. I just wanted to inform of alternatives, since there is no MikroTik routers with SFP ports at the moment (probably not for many years). I also searched the forum, and it's basicly the same person whining and moaning that he need to connect his router to STM-1 and SFP lines.

Actually, I don't have a need for SFP ports in the RB1100 at the moment, I was just replying to Mikrotik who in turn were replying to someone that did.

I think most people don't want it due to the increased price tag. I remember one guy in this forum asked if there is an Interface Card that he could use with MikroTik to be able to use his new OC-3 Line. I offered him a cheap solution to his issue, but he completely rejected it and shout out "OFF TO CISCO".

A RAD media converter from Giga Ethernet to STM-1/OC-3 cost around €500, and one Axiom SFP-OC3-SR-AX module to a switch cost around €150.

A Cisco 1-Port Channelized STM-1/OC-3 line card adapter cost around €32,400.00 (List Price). Then you need a Cisco router to plug in this line card adapter.

But the guy wasn't satisfied, with my answer, because he replied with "OFF TO CISCO".

There are 16 people in this thread alone that have said they want something like the RB1000 or RB1100 but with SFP ports... several of them have explicitly said that they do not mind paying more for a product that supports SFP modules.

There are 16 people in this thread alone that have said they want something like the RB1000 or RB1100 but with SFP ports... several of them have explicitly said that they do not mind paying more for a product that supports SFP modules.

As I said before, I'm not against the idea of SFP ports in Routerboard, but It's not that important that I will pay 20 times more just for one single SFP port. You can buy similar router/firewall appliances with SFP ports for around $10 000. I rather buy a bunch of other things, like several units I can quickly switch if any of them fail. Believe me, it will pay of in the long run.

By the way, are you sure that those request isn't the same guy with 16 difference accounts? I'm a moderator on a site, and I've seem this behaviour very often. Someone request for a feature, and suddenly hundreds of people want exactly the same thing. Most of the time, all those posts came from the same IP address, but from different nick names.

I used to have a similar opinion, why would you want SFP ports on a Mikrotik router?

Well, now I too want them. We are doing a number of CWDM projects at the moment, and having a Mikrotik router with high throughput, multiple "full speed" SFP's and a multicore CPU would be perfect for us.

By full speed, I mean each SFP/port can communicate at the full 1000mbit speed, unlike the RB1100 which is technically two switches, each one with a single uplink.

I used to have a similar opinion, why would you want SFP ports on a Mikrotik router?

Well, now I too want them. We are doing a number of CWDM projects at the moment, and having a Mikrotik router with high throughput, multiple "full speed" SFP's and a multicore CPU would be perfect for us.

By full speed, I mean each SFP/port can communicate at the full 1000mbit speed, unlike the RB1100 which is technically two switches, each one with a single uplink.

Ah, so now you're twisting my own words around, I was never talking about that. Since SFP ports doesn't exist yet on Routerboard, I was talking about alternatives. If it's true that RB1100 can't handle the traffic, then why not buy a VLAN aware switch with SFP ports and PoE? That would be the ultimate solution, and that is also what I always have done, and it's the omly option right now. Well, you can OFF TO CISCO if you prefer that.

It is something I don't get, people buy a rack mounted router, but don't have place for a switch, or a tiny little media convertet. I have a feeling that it is for home use (in their living room).

haha, well we could buy vlan aware switches. But the fewer devices we can get away with, the more reliable, and cost effective the solution is. We would prefer to have the Mikrotik acting as the "CPE" and terminate two sets of fibre into it, then output to a VLAN aware switch on the other side.

To be honest, the price is not the issue, as long as the performance is there and it has SFP's we would happily pay more than the "cheap" RB1000. RouterOS is much nicer to use than either JunOS or IOS, provide easier visibility into what is happening, and has significantly better SNMP.

I've been working in the field of networing since the end of 1980, and what I've seen is that every server room is half empty. We have never had so many servers that we have today, but still all server rooms is half empty (i don't mind to have extra units).

That's due to smaller servers, and virtualization.

I've been working in the field of networing since the end of 1980, and what I've seen is that every server room is half empty. We have never had so many servers that we have today, but still all server rooms is half empty (i don't mind to have extra units).

That's due to smaller servers, and virtualization.

But you still can't get away from the performance and reliability problems that adding an extra physical device to a logical system brings.

Lots of our racks are half empty because we haven't got the power/cooling to put more equipment in them, so the space isn't a great deal of use

MT does not have today any product with ability to connect it directly to the fiber. That's a shame...

So, how much empty miniGBIC or SFP slot will costs? $10-20? Today, even $100 switches come with one or two of these, so they can not be more expensive than that. Well, ok, if MT will add that price to the RB1100, we all can live with that. Even better would be add-on module (PCIe) for RB800 and some other higher end models. Right now, I connect even RB750G's to backbone via converters, which is almost same size like router, require extra power outlet, and have 5V supply, what will die on every 10th power surge.

Btw, I, personally hate media converters. They are most unreliable things I have ever seen. And I have hundreds of them ...

PS: SFP can easily be converted to Ethernet.

+1 vote for sfp
it's needed future.

Just got one for home yesterday... Played with it for 10 mins... Cant access the switch chips on 5.0b2...

Do you mean access by Winbox? The support for Winbox is added at 5.0beta3.

Do you mean access by Winbox? The support for Winbox is added at 5.0beta3.

I really didnt mess with it that long. Just long enough to see that there was no switch option in Winbox. Maybe you can from the CLI. Just didnt get that far yet.

Yes, you can do it from CLI. 5.0beta3 will provide you with support for Winbox.

Do you mean access by Winbox? The support for Winbox is added at 5.0beta3.

When will we see beta3?

When it's ready won't cut it, so an estimation will do..

-tp

5.0beta3 should be available very soon.

I have problem with RB1100,

when I put the cable from other modem/router/switch to RB1100 port 11, 12 or 13, router always stuck / every 5-10 minutes interface/ether always disconnect/down. anyone have a same problem with me?

but port 1-10 is normal!..

bug or something??

I have problem with RB1100,

when I put the cable from other modem/router/switch to RB1100 port 11, 12 or 13, router always stuck / every 5-10 minutes interface/ether always disconnect/down. anyone have a same problem with me?

but port 1-10 is normal!..

bug or something??

What is your RouterOS version and RouterBOOT version?

Tom

I have problem with RB1100,

when I put the cable from other modem/router/switch to RB1100 port 11, 12 or 13, router always stuck / every 5-10 minutes interface/ether always disconnect/down. anyone have a same problem with me?

but port 1-10 is normal!..

bug or something??

What is your RouterOS version and RouterBOOT version?

Tom

firmware: "2.27"
version: "4.10"

I have installed a RB1100 as a networks access control, but i have a serious problem, cpu go to 100% usage all time, i have 645 users, i have disabled connection tracking, simple queue, firewall mangle eccept global mss-change, natting, pppoe compression, all queue.... i'll must to disable entire RB1100 for get a reasonable use of cpu ?

I have also overclocked cpu to 1Ghz, can i overload memory bus to 533 Mhz ?

Thanks
FR4

P.s. i prefer a most expansive but usable hardware, that a low cost unusable hardware ....

I have problem with RB1100,

when I put the cable from other modem/router/switch to RB1100 port 11, 12 or 13, router always stuck / every 5-10 minutes interface/ether always disconnect/down. anyone have a same problem with me?

but port 1-10 is normal!..

bug or something??

What is your RouterOS version and RouterBOOT version?

Tom

firmware: "2.27"
version: "4.10"

Oh yeah, I forgot about this place. Anyway...

Same here, 4.10/2.27 and ether11-13 issues. Ticket#2010061066000061 with MT support, waiting since 6/9/10. I can understand the wait since this now looks like a problem not specific to the unit I have.

I wonder if this is auto-MDI/X related? I think I have straight-through cables at my site, maybe x-overs will fix this?

Tom, I sent you an email. I guess this answers the question of others reporting ethernet issues.

I have installed a RB1100 as a networks access control, but i have a serious problem, cpu go to 100% usage all time, i have 645 users, i have disabled connection tracking, simple queue, firewall mangle eccept global mss-change, natting, pppoe compression, all queue.... i'll must to disable entire RB1100 for get a reasonable use of cpu ?

I have also overclocked cpu to 1Ghz, can i overload memory bus to 533 Mhz ?

Thanks
FR4

P.s. i prefer a most expansive but usable hardware, that a low cost unusable hardware ....

Mine has the standard 512MB RAM. I set the RAM clock to 533MHz and it automatically scaled up the CPU clock to 1333MHz. Multiple reboots and power-cycles and it's still there. Just running on the bench right now because of the ethernet issues.

Oh yeah, I forgot about this place. Anyway...

Same here, 4.10/2.27 and ether11-13 issues. Ticket#2010061066000061 with MT support, waiting since 6/9/10. I can understand the wait since this now looks like a problem not specific to the unit I have.

I wonder if this is auto-MDI/X related? I think I have straight-through cables at my site, maybe x-overs will fix this?

Tom, I sent you an email. I guess this answers the question of others reporting ethernet issues.

Thanks for the email reply, Tom.

This is related to the RB800 ethernet problems.http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 00#p212336

I hope the next ROS is released soon. I need this 1100 in production.. like yesterday!

Seeing port issues here too. Set port 11 to autonegotiation off 1000mb fdx and router locked up and i had to drive to tower to reboot it. Something weird with the GB ports not behaving properly. Have not heard from tech support. Hopefully the fix is out soon so the flagship routerboards actually work properly on the ports that have the highest capable bandwidth, 11, 12, 13. Looking forward to 4.11...

Scott

for 1Gbit links you have to have auto-negotiation turned on for it to work. Best you can get with that turned off is 100MBps.

Well then I think you would agree if it HAS to be on to work then I should not have the option to change it and lock the router up... Do you agree?

Scott

Furthermore... are you telling me that setting the flagship routerboard gig port hard set to 1000fdx is not an option? I've never had that problem with any other GB router or switch ever. Please clarify maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say. Thanks.

Scott

Behind the scenes, a gigabit ethernet connection requires auto-negotiation to properly sync up. That's just how the standard is written. The other units that allow you to turn off auto-negotiation and still force 1Gb and a duplex must have auto-negotiation still enabled in the background and are somehow forcing the connection to pick the speed you've manually set. Mikrotik's just being more literal/honest in their setup.

I do agree that it makes more sense to me to not have that option there at all if you can't actually use it.

can i run 500 hotspot clients in it.
as of now i am useing a asus motherboard with quadcore processor and two gig ports but it cant handle users more than 400 users any solution
please let me know.

Yes, without a problem. It scales to even more than that. 400 users without optimizations and a fairly light firewall ruleset ran at an average of 17% CPU utilization for me with plenty of free RAM when I was testing things on this hardware. I've run close to two thousand concurrent users since without any problems.

However, a quad core x86 should easily be able to handle 400 users, too. If it doesn't you have things seriously misconfigured, or the router is doing a LOT more than just Hotspot traffic. Once you don't dedicate the system to Hotspot traffic of course all bets are off on the number I gave and things depend on what else the router is busy with.

4.11 fixed nothing for me. Forced ethers 11-13 to 100FDX and get Rx errors due to duplex mismatch. Even though it says it's hard set to the speed and duplex, those three ports still auto-neg, always. Hardware, drivers or something is broken. A $400 router sitting on the shelf for four months.

Anyone still having problems with Prts 11-13? It was working for about 10-11 days on mine after putting 5.0rc4 dated 11/9/2010 on it, then I upgraded to 5.0RC4 11/22/2010 and it started dropping link every 5 minutes again. PAradyne DSL modem, RB433AH and Dlink DES-3028.

I downgraded to the 5.0rc4 I was running and it still didnt work.. Its like it only worked for that one reboot.

MT does not have today any product with ability to connect it directly to the fiber. That's a shame...

So, how much empty miniGBIC or SFP slot will costs? $10-20? Today, even $100 switches come with one or two of these, so they can not be more expensive than that. Well, ok, if MT will add that price to the RB1100, we all can live with that. Even better would be add-on module (PCIe) for RB800 and some other higher end models. Right now, I connect even RB750G's to backbone via converters, which is almost same size like router, require extra power outlet, and have 5V supply, what will die on every 10th power surge.

Btw, I, personally hate media converters. They are most unreliable things I have ever seen. And I have hundreds of them ...

PS: SFP can easily be converted to Ethernet.

We use PowerRouter 732 with RouterOs and 2 Gbic fiber interfaces, works like a charm.

We use PowerRouter 732 with RouterOs and 2 Gbic fiber interfaces, works like a charm.

to be exact it is not MirkoTik product

We are also working on a more powerful device, but it's not ready yet. Send your SFP suggestions with usage examples and requirements.

So, how's that more powerful device going???

We are also working on a more powerful device, but it's not ready yet. Send your SFP suggestions with usage examples and requirements.

Suggestions:
* Cavium multi-core processor for crypto acceleration and hardware assisted packet processing
* 8x 1000baseT interfaces on the board, can act as full speed interfaces, or be "bridged" at full speed due to Cavium processor
* Stick on front label like the RB750 allowing Mikrotik to ship different configurations of the same base without having to make new case die's
* Flexible front mount interface module, allowing Mikrotik to ship the unit as just the base, or add:
- 8 x SFP
- 2 x SFP+
- 8 x 1000baseT
(Portwell do exactly this on a number of models)

* Redundant power supplies would be nice, even if there is just an exteral redundant power supply, (ala FortiGate 200B)

Why:
* Mikrotik is fantastic, but there comes a point where we need to use a Juniper/Cisco due to short comings in RouterOS or the hardware, e.g. needing SFP modules has forced us to use Juniper SRX's just recently

* I would much rather buy supported Mikrotik hardware than buy an x86 box and "roll the dice"

* I want to see Mikrotik take on the big guys

* We need more processing power to route/shape faster, connections are getting faster and throughput requirements are growing quickly. Also, not everyone uses Mikrotik for "plain old internet" we use it to bridge small data centres with MPLS/VPLS, and want to move to 10gigabit plus speeds.

* With SFP modules, Mikrotik would have a very good competitor to the Cisco ME3400 for terminating MPLS circuits

* People seem happy to pay more, for more power ! the Mikrotik routers are always the cheapest part of any solution we sell to a client, we and they would be happy to pay more, for a better, faster product.

How can I connect a APC Smart UPS to RB1100? On serial is not working.

How can I connect a APC Smart UPS to RB1100? On serial is not working.

Did you disable the console support on the serial port first?

Anyone still having problems with Prts 11-13? It was working for about 10-11 days on mine after putting 5.0rc4 dated 11/9/2010 on it, then I upgraded to 5.0RC4 11/22/2010 and it started dropping link every 5 minutes again. PAradyne DSL modem, RB433AH and Dlink DES-3028.

I downgraded to the 5.0rc4 I was running and it still didnt work.. Its like it only worked for that one reboot.

What's new in 4.17 (2011-Mar-02 10:53):

*) fixed occasional print command stalling when lots of items;
*) fixed RB1100 ether11,12,13 and RB800 ether3 resetting problem;
*) implemented usb power-reset command on RB SXT 5HnD;
*) wireless-nv2 package now includes the same fixes as RouterOS v5rc11;

Just wondering...

Did this ROS upgrade fix the ethernet problems that you were all having? I assume that MT also applied the fix in stable release 5.0 although it is not mentioned in the 5.x change logs.

Tom

yes, QpoX, i did that but seems like no connection at all.