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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:44 pm

janisk's example is just a funny way to explain that "aggregate" means "up- and download traffic combined" in this aspect. :)
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:59 pm

guys, so nobody knows what 100Mbit full duplex means?
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:08 pm

"duplex": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplex_%28 ... cations%29
"aggregate": http://www.collinslanguage.com/results. ... =aggregate

We all know what it means. The example was only a bit funny. :)
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:27 pm

groove has 100MBps ethernet interface, so, you can saturate that, and then still have some upload left (25MBps).
i can never reach 100Mbps in my setups, even at very close range < 2km, good clean area (no noise), max i get is 80mbps (oneway)TCP, 95Mbps UDP (oneway), once i have it running on both, bandwidth drops to half (about 45mbps + 45Mbps => worst on TCP).

Any tips to make it 100Mbps (ethernet speed)?

here is my 5km test result:
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54368
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:40 am

go for NV2 for TCP throughput.
 
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:41 pm

Just giving this thread a bump...

Normis: Is there a 2.4Ghz version of the groove in the pipeline? Near term?


8) - would appreciate any info (getting tired of having to assemble cpe's!)
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:02 am

one tip for you - watch the MUM live stream
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:01 am

or attend MUM in Vegas... same country.
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:39 am

hi there, does anyone knows how to make the groove AP to show signal LEDS?,

the STA is OK...showing the singnal leds

ros 5.7

to AP.... LEDs

Type:wireless signal strenght
led1,led2,led3,led4,led5

interface:wlan1

what I`m doing wrong?

I have also tryed to Type: modem signal... but the leds than stay ON all the time regarding the signal strenght...even if I turn off the STA... the LEDs on AP will stay on in this mode... and like I said... using on Type: wireless signal strenght ... the LEDs does not lit at all.


PS: I really like the groove so far, comes with power adapter 24v 0.8Ah, poe injector and 2 plastic strips, and yes... it is more cheap than the bullet m5hp witch comes with none of those... and not to mention the runing software with is 10000000 years more advanced than the AirOS witch comes to ubiquiti... ooooo and .. the VOLTAGE MONITOR witch is WHAT every one who runs a solar site NEEDS!....not to forget the beeper witch plays mario theme on startup :P
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:41 am

We have a 4 links with Groove HW. 40Mhz with Nstreme ccq 80-90% max 70mbps (50ms ping) ccq falls on 50%....personaly I expected more
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:46 pm

We have a 4 links with Groove HW. 40Mhz with Nstreme ccq 80-90% max 70mbps (50ms ping) ccq falls on 50%....personaly I expected more
Try nv2 nstreme And you Will have more speed
 
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Re: Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:53 pm

hi there, does anyone knows how to make the groove AP to show signal LEDS?,

the STA is OK...showing the singnal leds

ros 5.7

to AP.... LEDs

Type:wireless signal strenght
led1,led2,led3,led4,led5

interface:wlan1

what I`m doing wrong?

I have also tryed to Type: modem signal... but the leds than stay ON all the time regarding the signal strenght...even if I turn off the STA... the LEDs on AP will stay on in this mode... and like I said... using on Type: wireless signal strenght ... the LEDs does not lit at all.


PS: I really like the groove so far, comes with power adapter 24v 0.8Ah, poe injector and 2 plastic strips, and yes... it is more cheap than the bullet m5hp witch comes with none of those... and not to mention the runing software with is 10000000 years more advanced than the AirOS witch comes to ubiquiti... ooooo and .. the VOLTAGE MONITOR witch is WHAT every one who runs a solar site NEEDS!....not to forget the beeper witch plays mario theme on startup :P
And no one knows this? How to make the ap to show signal leds??????

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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:56 pm

using NV2 = max 3mbps ccq 5% and time out :?
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:03 pm

Uhm, is there anyway to make N devices to work with 40Mhz (G-Turbo) band?
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:23 pm

choose 20/40Mhz on AP device. or did you mean 802.11G ? 2,4G?
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:21 pm

me Like Mikrotik
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:38 am

using NV2 = max 3mbps ccq 5% and time out :?
Bad config or link.
 
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Re: Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:42 am

hi there, does anyone knows how to make the groove AP to show signal LEDS?,

the STA is OK...showing the singnal leds

ros 5.7

to AP.... LEDs

Type:wireless signal strenght
led1,led2,led3,led4,led5

interface:wlan1

what I`m doing wrong?

I have also tryed to Type: modem signal... but the leds than stay ON all the time regarding the signal strenght...even if I turn off the STA... the LEDs on AP will stay on in this mode... and like I said... using on Type: wireless signal strenght ... the LEDs does not lit at all.


PS: I really like the groove so far, comes with power adapter 24v 0.8Ah, poe injector and 2 plastic strips, and yes... it is more cheap than the bullet m5hp witch comes with none of those... and not to mention the runing software with is 10000000 years more advanced than the AirOS witch comes to ubiquiti... ooooo and .. the VOLTAGE MONITOR witch is WHAT every one who runs a solar site NEEDS!....not to forget the beeper witch plays mario theme on startup :P
And no one knows this? How to make the ap to show signal leds??????
Well, probably because it is in AP mode.... What signal do you want? AP usually has several stations connected, so how does AP knows which signal to show? So it is useless feature and thus probably not available in software.
Go to your register tab in wireless to see the signal strength of each associated client.
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:56 am

what did you mean bad config? :lol: Nstreme with frame policy best fit on 4000, signal -64/-64 ccq is cca 80% registration rate 100-150mbps (changing) in BT UDP test 60mbps then ccq fall on 50%.

bullet M5 HP on this link is going on 90mbps no problem....

Any ideas? What I shlould change in config? Or try?...any ideas? thanks
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:41 pm

contact support@mikrotik.com with the support output file where the speed is low.
Try to use rate-selection=advanced (us only with the latest versions, currently, v5.7).
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:12 pm

Send BT test is going about 50-60mbps .....(ccq fall on 50%)
In this receive BT test ccq is so good 80-90%, ping 30ms but it wil stop on 73mbps... why? ccq is good, CPU is only on 40%...
I tried advanced data rates...no change.
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:21 pm

Try specifying the speed in Btest rather than letting it scale. Uldis mentioned this in his wireless presentation at MUM the other day.
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:38 pm

receive test with 100/100m
send test is the same but with 91mbps and 30ms ping
Maybe I need better signal? :shock:
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:44 pm

What's the CPU utilisation of the remote end?
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:56 pm

I think, same like on this side???
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:15 pm

it is good idea to check both ends, since there can be different problems with wireless links.
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:29 pm

Is there anybody with groove link? I mean somebody with BT test over 100mbps :)
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:57 pm

what did you mean bad config? :lol: Nstreme with frame policy best fit on 4000, signal -64/-64 ccq is cca 80% registration rate 100-150mbps (changing) in BT UDP test 60mbps then ccq fall on 50%.
...

Did you try lower than 4000? or any other frame policy?

The ccq has to be over 90%.

Please give more details about the link.

- Distance?
- Line of Sight - clear fresnel zone?
- Antennas?
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:44 pm

no, I have 3999 (advice from internet forum)

distance 3km, JIROUS JR24 vs. JIROUS JR29

can you recommend me any other frame policy?

Fresnell is not very clear but is ?Line of sight? I see other side..
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:38 pm

choose 20/40Mhz on AP device. or did you mean 802.11G ? 2,4G?
yes any 802.11G, 2.4Ghgz or 5Ghz, ie:

N device to connecto to an AP with 802.11G (40Mhz or g-turbo)
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:02 pm

no, I have 3999 (advice from internet forum)

distance 3km, JIROUS JR24 vs. JIROUS JR29

can you recommend me any other frame policy?

Fresnell is not very clear but is ?Line of sight? I see other side..
I prefer using 32dBi antennas (solid dish or 80cm satellite dish + 5GHz feeder) and use lower tx power.

Also i have seen more stable results with best fit and 3200.
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:01 am

thanks for advice :idea: I will try..
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:23 am

groove is 802.11n device, it does not support turbo modes (40MHz channel) for 802.11a and 802.g modes.


What you can do on AP is select 5ghz-a/n mode and then choose 20/40MHz channel width. As result clients will connect using 802.11a to 20 MHz channel and other client will be able to connect using 5GHz 802.11n and use 40MHz HT channel.

turbo mode is not the same as 40MHz HT channel.

also, why not to use 802.11n? more data at same channel width.
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:10 am

why not to use 802.11n? more data at same channel width.
because, there are currently many sites that already on turbo mode and all of their clients are turbo enabled (not supporting 802.11n).

hmm seems like we to have to stick with Rb411 and R52/R52H ....
and hoping they are not discontinued very soon.
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:00 am

yeah, after align antenna I have -53/-53 ccq + - 100%..

BT test groove-groove 97mbps Receive / 97mbps send....of coutre Nstreme best fit 3999 .
Now I have a question, can groove generate more data? over 97mbps? because it stops on 97mbps....ccq is still 100%, ping 1-10ms where is the problem? 8)
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:10 am

yeah, after align antenna I have -53/-53 ccq + - 100%..

BT test groove-groove 97mbps Receive / 97mbps send....of coutre Nstreme best fit 3999 .
Now I have a question, can groove generate more data? over 97mbps? because it stops on 97mbps....ccq is still 100%, ping 1-10ms where is the problem? 8)
You should run a throughput test between 2 units that are connected to each end of your groove-groove link. This way the CPU of these external units produce the data and the groove's only have to pass the traffic. Now you can really 'see' how much your link can carry.
Probably you run into 100% cpu capacity if you have the groove also produce the data stream....
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:46 am

propably you are right...
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

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yeah, after align antenna I have -53/-53 ccq + - 100%..

BT test groove-groove 97mbps Receive / 97mbps send....of coutre Nstreme best fit 3999 .
Now I have a question, can groove generate more data? over 97mbps? because it stops on 97mbps....ccq is still 100%, ping 1-10ms where is the problem? 8)
nice, have you tried tcp?
mine never hit any greater than 75mbps in tcp(one way), UDP has been 97-98mbps.
using nv2, ccq 100%, ping varies from 2-15 (nv2 characteristic), Signal -54/-58.

btw there's no point chasing after something over 100mbps, cos its ether only works on 100Mbps (upto) :D
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:20 pm

You only have 100M FD connection don't you? ;-)
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:16 pm

I dont have got enough HW to do TCP test. Behind groove there is only UBNT M5 sector. But now groove works perfectly. Primary the groove L3 is cheaper than ubnt bullet M5 HP and result is same. 8)
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:28 pm

are groove and Ubiquiti bullet 5m compatible with each other?
Does the mimo technology yet?
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:09 am

Propably in 802.11a ....I think thats not a good idea....
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:19 pm

I found this site, the groove can not communicate with the bullet 5M.
I will regret if I want to gradually switch to the groove.
A wonderful device.

http://www.wirelessinfo.be/Link-testen/ ... /index.htm
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:19 am

I found this site, the groove can not communicate with the bullet 5M.
I will regret if I want to gradually switch to the groove.
A wonderful device.

http://www.wirelessinfo.be/Link-testen/ ... /index.htm
It can, you only have to set both as legacy 802.11a device. Ubnt airmax or MT-NV2 is both propietary TDMA which means in that mode they cannot.
But in legacy they have to comply with the IEEE 802.11a standard and thus they can...
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:50 am

If i use groove for point to point 10km which antenna is suitable Omni Or Grid . And how much dbi antenna wanted
 
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Re: RouterBOARD Groove

Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:52 am

Grid of course

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