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What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:11 pm

please help to novice.
in RB711GA-5HnD specification written that it has 2 chains, it means:
  1. that I must connect two identical antennas (like this),
  2. or I must connect only dual polarization mimo antenna (like this),
  3. or I might connect one antenna (like this) in chain0 and it will be work?
What correct decision, what wrong decision?
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Re: what kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:15 pm

all the options work, important is what you need it for
 
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Re: what kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:29 pm

all the options work, important is what you need it for
If I correctly understand, in RB711GA-5HnD two chains used for spatial diversity.
so what kind of main benefit or disadvantage will be for these types of antenna's connections?
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:58 pm

maybe somebody can give a link where I can read about routerboard hardware and antenna's use :?:
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:17 pm

you should use google to learn about all tipes of antennas and second chain is not for spatial diversity but it can be used that way.
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:05 am

I rephrase the question, what is purpose of TX in 2 chains in the RB711GA-5HnD, but only with 1 stream?
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:41 am

I rephrase the question, what is purpose of TX in 2 chains in the RB711GA-5HnD, but only with 1 stream?
To get full speed of 802.11n. Only with two antennas, or dual pol antenna, you can get near 300Mbit wireless speed in 802.11n
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:22 pm

I rephrase the question, what is purpose of TX in 2 chains in the RB711GA-5HnD, but only with 1 stream?
To get full speed of 802.11n. Only with two antennas, or dual pol antenna, you can get near 300Mbit wireless speed in 802.11n
I little bit confused, in the brochure for R52n-M (for example) written about 2Nss and speeds up to 300Mbps, and in the brochure for RB711GA-5HnD have written only about MCS7 and not written "Data Rates".

So, if I correctly understood all routerboard with D in its name (or with two chains) has been working with 2Nss?
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:35 pm

300Mbit is only possible with 2 chains. R52n-M has two connectors.
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:01 pm

300Mbit is only possible with 2 chains. R52n-M has two connectors.
and why in the specification for routerboard has been written mcs7, but if 2Nss then it must be from mcs8 to mcs15?
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:05 pm

Where did you see this? From the R52n-M datasheet:


2Nss: 270Mbps @ 800GI, 300Mbps @ 400GI (Max.)
MCS7 20MHz -77 16
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:01 pm

Where did you see this? From the R52n-M datasheet:

2Nss: 270Mbps @ 800GI, 300Mbps @ 400GI (Max.)
MCS7 20MHz -77 16
http://routerboard.com/pdf/330/rb711G-5.pdf
only mcs7, and no one words about 300Mbps
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:05 pm

What did you expect to see there? MCS data rates are the same for all 802.11n devices
You can go and see the MCS numbers here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:16 pm

What did you expect to see there? MCS data rates are the same for all 802.11n devices
You can go and see the MCS numbers here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009
if RB711GA-5HnD support 300Mbps throughput, I expected to see mcs15
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:18 pm

Of course it supports MCS15 because it supports 802.11n

You are asking something like "Does this car have wheels", and I am telling you "If it's a car, it has wheels, its logical"
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:21 pm

Of course it supports MCS15 because it supports 802.11n

You are asking something like "Does this car have wheels", and I am telling you "If it's a car, it has wheels, its logical"
yes, but if I see picture of this car in a store without wheels, I ask myself, do i have to buy wheels separately :)

anyway, thanks for your answers.
 
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Re: What kind of antenna to use with 2 chains routerboard?

Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:23 pm

All cars have wheels. All RouterBOARDs which have 802.11n support, support all MCS depending on number of chains. One chain - MCS7, two chains - MCS15. Read the 802.11n standard please. This is normal operation, and datasheets shouldn't include common knowledge that applies to all devices.

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