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Re: CCR 1009

Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:43 am

So your going to re-announce the ccr1009?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:48 am

So your going to re-announce the ccr1009?
Among other things. This time CCR1009 is much closer to availability :)
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:54 am

So your going to re-announce the ccr1009?
Among other things. This time CCR1009 is much closer to availability :)
I really want to get my hands on one! Have any demo models?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:09 pm

So your going to re-announce the ccr1009?
Among other things. This time CCR1009 is much closer to availability :)
I really want to get my hands on one! Have any demo models?
Yes we plan to bring some demo devices.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:22 pm


Yes we plan to bring some demo devices.
I can't make mum this is our busy time now that its warming up here. Lots of installs. We could beta test one in a real world environment for you :D
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:17 pm

New date for those who haven't seen in Venice MUM 2014 thread: April...
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:13 am

WHEN? When CCR1009 will be available??
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:34 pm

Again: April (according to normis' linked post)
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:47 am

Again: April (according to normis' linked post)
Did he (normis) told anything over the launching year?
It is not that I want to be ungentle, but on the 1th April
the most peoples inside many countries are kidding their peoples a little bit
and so I was asking my self if this could be also a small joke perhaps?

But if not the CCR1009 is very welcome, it should be the best actual
choice to set up a really powerful router for smallest, small and little
companies or power home users and a lot of peoples would be nasty
to get their hands on this product.
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:45 pm

1th April !
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:27 pm

:lol: There wasn't mentioned a year explicitly... But one says CCR1009 will be available "very soon". I hope this means April 2014.

Did you pick up that CCR1009 will have dual power supply (see http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/IT14/it14.pdf)? This makes this device even more interesting.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:23 pm

This is another request for a desktop version of the CCR1009. Fanless would also be great, but not a necessity.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:19 am

Do CCR 1009 have hardware switch chip ?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:19 pm

Update.. I was wrong.. See comment from normis below.
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:52 pm

Update.. I was wrong.. See comment from normis below.
Me too! :lol:
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:57 pm

First 4 ports are connected to a switch chip, rest are each directly connected to CPU
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:34 pm

Oh how disappointing. I was hoping that all ports are connected directly to CPU, just like any other CCR...
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:29 pm

I think it's handy that some ports can be grouped together as a switch group and thus not put any load on the CPU as bridging would. It kind of depends what the switch chip would be capable of in regards to VLAN's and such, but judging from the RB2011 for instance it's at least possible to do it right. :)

It also depends how big the interlink between the switch chip and the CPU is internally, but most often this is limited to 1Gbit (a 5 port Gbit switch in reality with 4 ports external and 1 port internal). Hoping to see a block diagram soon. Actually, judging from the TILE-Gx8009 spec sheet, it has up to twelve 1000Mbit ports and/or 2 10Gbps XAUI ports + at least 10 PCIe 2.0 lanes.

Depending on configuration, it's possible that that the 4 Gigabit Ethernet ports are directly connected to the CPU, the SFP+ slot uses one of the 10Gbit XAUI ports and the internal switch is a 10Gbit internal uplink and 5x external Gigabit Ethernet ports model (including the SFP slot). This would impose no bandwith limitations if used as routed ports but would give you the advantage of being able to use them as switched ports, offloading the CPU.

Alternatively the switch or a 10Gbit port could be connected using some form of PCIe interface of which the processor also has a multitude available. Using the available 10 lanes of PCIe 2.0 bandwith that would result in 10x512MB/sec = 5120MB/sec up and down (full-duplex). More then enough to use for the switch or a 10Gbit SFP+ port, etc. That would still leave another 2 PCIe 2.0 lanes unused also the spec sheet lists that everything else such as UART, USB, etc. is separately connected.

Only time will tell, hopefully they will release a block diagram before it's purchasable so we can check out how they configured it before buying!

Personally I'm wondering what the expected NAT throughput would be. Sadly, I seem unable to find any real performance numbers for the other Cloud Routers thus I'm unable to make a guestimated number either. Does anybody have any numbers or tests on it? I'm hoping it will be able to do 1Gbps of NAT without too much trouble, making it a great router for newer fiber connections.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:29 am

Quindor, thanks for very technical post. It would be great if those first 4 switched ports share 10G connection. That way, if You don't want to use switch, 1000m * 4 ports will go to the cpu without bottleneck. Only time will tell, and it would be great that MTK guys post block diagram...
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:18 am

Can the CCR 1009 10Gbit SFP+ port accept a standard SFP module?
Do CCR 1009 has NAT acceleration?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:41 am

Can the CCR 1009 10Gbit SFP+ port accept a standard SFP module?
Do CCR 1009 has NAT acceleration?
Some SFP+ slots can accept SFP modules. And some SFP modules will work in an SFP+ slot and some will not. It's kind of a vague issue and it highly depends on the combination of the specific SFP+ slot and SFP module combination if it will work or not. Best is to try, electrically it should not pose a problem.

As you can read 2 posts upward, I also wonder about NAT performance. But from what I understand there is no hardware accelerated NAT above that the processor is able to process. There is no NAT block in the processor like there is a separate encryption block inside of it. Still, if there is a multi-threaded NAT engine performance should be excellent because of the 9 cores.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:36 pm

normis
It will have dual PSU or not?
+1 for Dual PSU.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:54 pm

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It will have dual PSU or not?
+1 for Dual PSU.
From all the available information available, it is going to have a dual PSU. Also see http://download2.mikrotik.com/news55.pdf page 4 to see the "Dual PSU" listed.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:26 am

Well it's April, any more news on availability?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:12 pm

Well it's April, any more news on availability?
We all want to know...is there any chance to buy it at april...?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:50 pm

The CCR1009 doesn't appear in Mikrotik Product Catalog 2014 Q2 :(
But in January u sad: "CCR1009 will be available around end of the first or beginning of the second quarter."
Will be launched on Q2 or not?

I hope the price will be around uby edge router pro(2GB DDR3, 4GB NAND)340$.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:38 am

Don't get me wrong, I like mikrotik and routerboard products a lot and they have great support.

That being said releasing products "on time" isn't one of their strong suits. If they say Q1 2014 first, expect second half of Q2 or Q3. Getting hardware from design to 1st concept to engineering approval to production to production approval, then inventory and distribution takes a lot. Sometimes the process gets delayed for some time because of waiting on thing like enclosures, raw board production or working out bugs in the assembly process. It happens.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:51 am

you can ask your distributor tomorrow ;-)
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:37 am

you can ask your distributor tomorrow ;-)
I love the subtlety :)
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:50 pm

you can ask your distributor tomorrow ;-)
I love the subtlety :)
and be send for some next month (

and STILL NO 1009 on routerboard.com (((
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:43 am

Our supplier says: 30.4.2014
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:00 am

Our supplier says: 30.4.2014
My supplier says they have no idea on release or price. Did yours give any pricing?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:27 am

My supplier stop replying after ask for the price of both models for end-user.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:32 am

2x IEC C14 power jacks AC 110/220V, PoE
in 12-58V, 802.3af/at compliant
Cool! What about redundancy? Can you connect both IEC and PoE and have them failover?

I saw some prices online: 350-400 euro.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:34 am

2x IEC C14 power jacks AC 110/220V, PoE
in 12-58V, 802.3af/at compliant
Cool! What about redundancy? Can you connect both IEC and PoE and have them failover?

I saw some prices online: 350-400 euro.
It's in the brochure:
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:40 am

CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+ = 272,13 € netto
CCR1009-8G-1S = 238,68 € netto
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:54 am

It's in the brochure:
It says nothing about PoE as backup.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:03 pm

It's in the brochure:
It says nothing about PoE as backup.
Sorry didn't understand what you meant. You want 3 power sources? Yes, it's possible, but you need to use less than 24V for PoE. 22V or something like that. PoE and PSU can't have equal voltage, and PSU gives 24V
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:16 pm

Sorry didn't understand what you meant. You want 3 power sources? Yes, it's possible, but you need to use less than 24V for PoE. 22V or something like that. PoE and PSU can't have equal voltage, and PSU gives 24V
That's great! I'd like to use 48v PoE and 1 or 2 IEC connections. Will PoE then be the primary source for power and IEC the backup?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:05 pm

any further info about switch chip, used for first four ports ? so we're can dig datasheets and understand possible caps/performance.
is any chance to get model without SFP cage(one 10Gb copper port instead will be welcomed, howver), single-powered and probably with dedicated PHY's at all ports(ie w/o swtich chip)?
ie as low-cost, high-thoughput premises CPE for SOHO deployment. ie to fit between rb850gx2 and initial 1009 model in terms of feats/cost and probably, size(no rackmountability meaning for premises in 80% cases)>
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Re: CCR 1009

Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:18 pm

highest voltage source will be primary
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:12 pm

1Gb/sec NAT is it possible for 1009?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:21 pm

1Gb/sec NAT is it possible for 1009?
I would hope, the 1100AHx2 can
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:57 am

Just place an order for Cloud Core Router 1009-8G-1S-1S+. :) 699SGD. Will arrive in 1st week of May 2014.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:42 am

balticnetworks.com says:
Thank you for your inquiry! The CCR1009 is expected to arrive around the 2nd half of May, and I would be happy to place a pre-order for you once we have activated the product for ordering. Please let me know if you have any questions or if I can be of further assistance.
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We are ordering them on our next shipment so we should have them in roughly 2-4 weeks. The list price for the devices are $425.00 for the CCR1009-8G-1S and $495.00 for the CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:26 pm

Is there any information yet on performance? I'm considering buying either 1100AHx2 or CCR1009 but im not sure which one would be best for my situation: 500/500M Fiber internet with PPPoE/NAT for 1 VLAN. LAN connections to 3 switches / 2 servers directly. I think both could do this but which one would have "the most" to spare?
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:31 pm

I know these posts aren't always seen as positive....but..... I have ordered a CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+ and fedEX reports they should drop it of coming Monday! :D

When it gets here I will open a topic so people can ask questions, get photo's, etc.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:57 pm

I know these posts aren't always seen as positive....but..... I have ordered a CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+ and fedEX reports they should drop it of coming Monday! :D

When it gets here I will open a topic so people can ask questions, get photo's, etc.
keep us posted!
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:56 pm

Does anybody know if the CCR 1009 will use same version of ROS (Tile v6.12) that is currently on the RouterOS website and is running on other CCR routers? Or, will they be releasing a new version that supports the CCR 1009 hardware? Thanks!
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:15 am

Does anybody know if the CCR 1009 will use same version of ROS (Tile v6.12) that is currently on the RouterOS website and is running on other CCR routers? Or, will they are releasing a new version that supports the CCR 1009 hardware? Thanks!
it will run same Tile packages that are available on our download page. However, to actually have 6.12 you will need to upgrade it.
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:46 pm

Anyone looking for more information. I received mine and have made a special topic for it with information and some tests!

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84475
 
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Re: CCR 1009

Sun May 25, 2014 11:00 pm

i change RB2011iLS-IN to CCR1009-8G-1S
I visually see the difference in speed of opening each page in browser and folders on FTP!
Amazing!!!
Speed on the brink of possibilities!

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it be cool see RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN with some 3-core's version of TLR4-00980CG-10CE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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