New hardware - mAP

tehdan · Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:08 pm

Going back to the question kurtkraut asked - is there any reason I can't (by custom cable) inject 5v power via USB /and/ use the USB port at the same time?

murphy · Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:08 pm

This device support power reset ?
I connect usb yota ltu150

[admin@mk01] > system routerboard pr
routerboard: yes
model: RouterBOARD mAP 2n
serial-number: 51FD049F496A
current-firmware: 3.17
upgrade-firmware: 3.17
[admin@mk01] > system routerboard usb pr
usb-mode: automatic
bootstrap: host-mode
[admin@mk01] > system routerboard usb power-reset
ERROR: USB power reset not implemented on this hardware

Kola · Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:31 am

If there's no way I think it should appear (some one should make) one to connect two network devices (say RB and PC) via USB-cable. All we need is some dummy modem driver to bring up PPP-connection.

It's kind of offtopic but third connection for mAP worth it.

P.S. Damn, I forgot RB probably can't be USB-slave at all.

janisk · Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:51 pm

Going back to the question kurtkraut asked - is there any reason I can't (by custom cable) inject 5v power via USB /and/ use the USB port at the same time?

you can attach this to powered USB hub and still use it as USB port.

It is not possible to establish a connection over USB cable.

tehdan · Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:54 am

Thanks - not quite what I was asking, decided to try any way. Turns out it works fine using a 5V USB power supply to power to the mAP and a USB device. I just used one of the y-shaped cables with 2 type-a connectors (the ones commonly used to give extra power to an external HDD). Now to find out how long the battery lasts...

janisk · Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:36 pm

what is the capacity of the battery?

tehdan · Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:44 pm

A lightly-used mAP ran for 5 hours on a 1800mAh battery using wifi/ethernet.
On the same battery powering the mAP and a USB modem (with an active 3G connection) it ran for 2:20.

neophyte · Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:30 pm

dlink des-3200-28p and dgs-1008p vs mAP2n poe dont work

pablo191f · Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:27 pm

What about WiFi range and link quality compared with rb951g-2hnd or rb751u-2hnd?

What is better for 60m^2 flat (only indoor usage):
Any ethernet router + mAP-2n
or
rb951g-2hnd?

Thanks

Quindor · Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:21 am

What about WiFi range and link quality compared with rb951g-2hnd or rb751u-2hnd?

What is better for 60m^2 flat (only indoor usage):
Any ethernet router + mAP-2n
or
rb951g-2hnd?

Thanks

Looking at the spec sheet here and here the answer should be quite obvious.

Regardless of the power output (The RB951G-2HnD can output much more) the RB951G-2HnD has much better antenna's. As such, the RB951G-2HnD would be better suited for your indoor usage scenario.

A step up from that would be an RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN or the new CRS109-8G-1S-2HnD-IN. Those are much better suited in a single Access-Point home situation kind of deal.

The mAP is more of a "I need something small while traveling" or other such purposes.

pablo191f · Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:10 am

Thanks 4 your answer. Now I have clear situation

MMorris · Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:45 pm

NEED ADVICE!!! This looks like the perfect solution to my problem almost!

I need to make a mobile bridge that will connect to my existing wifi network and give a non wifi device access! The issue im trying to figure out is the user will not have access to the config page and needs a feedback that its connected to the wifi! I was thinking a beep script would have worked but looking at the posted hardware pictures i don't see any speaker built in! any advice on how to best do this? i see there is a AP lite and a actual wifi lite not sure if on would stay off when its not connected to a ap and turn on if it dose in client mode?? that would work.

Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:02 pm

Have you tried common USB wifi dongle for such purpose? Or why you need such router as client device?

MMorris · Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:13 pm

its a credit card machine no usb only has cat5 port!

ohara · Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:26 pm

The issue im trying to figure out is the user will not have access to the config page and needs a feedback that its connected to the wifi! I was thinking a beep script would have worked but looking at the posted hardware pictures i don't see any speaker built in! any advice on how to best do this? i see there is a AP lite and a actual wifi lite not sure if on would stay off when its not connected to a ap and turn on if it dose in client mode?? that would work.

You want to set up mAP as wireless client of an existing access point, and then you want to connect the credit card terminal to mAP via ethernet cable?

If you are looking for a visual notification on the mAP that it is actually connected to the access point, please check SYSTEM>LEDs on mAP. Check what options you've got there. I don't have a mAP, but I can see on the picture that it has a USR led. Check in config if you can program this user led based on wireless interface status.

MMorris · Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:18 am

I don't have one yet I'm trying to figure out if this is posoble before purchase or if someone has a recommendation for hardware I like the size of this!

tehdan · Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:05 am

The mAP already has a wifi LED - in station mode it will flash slowly while looking for a connection, and switch to mostly-on (flickering with activity) once connected. If you want to do something more idiot proof then you can use scripting. The mAP seems like the perfect device for what you're trying to do.

sbiddle · Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:36 am

I picked up one of these last week and love it.

One thing I'd love to see with this device (and over the years we've seen many people make the same comment for other models of hardware) is the ability to disable the reset button. It's far too easy for somebody to tamper with this if they really wanted to.

janisk · Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:02 pm

IMHO (as a user) if someone has physical access to your device (whatever it is) and he/she has malicious intent - security and integrity of the device goes down the drain. I wold not recommend to disable last resort recovery option.

bleomycin · Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:58 am

I'm looking to use these as a wireless bridge for some IP Cameras, I assume that shouldn't be a problem? Just wanted to make sure...thanks!

Begetan · Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:12 am

What is the current limit for USB port?
Is it possible to feed up strong 3G/LTE Modems?

janisk · Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:46 am

what is expected power draw at 5V for these "strong" SUB modems?

1A@5V is not a problem for mAP.

Valerio5000 · Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:08 am

The device heats up a lot?

janisk · Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:52 pm

no. it does not heat up. You can press your hand against the router when it is working configured and loaded for max consumption and that is an unlikely scenario for the device.

jnygard · Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:13 am

Does Mikrotik have a specific reason why the USB port is a Micro-AB port? These type of ports break down quite easy as you can by mistake insert a Micro-B connector the wrong way. I would suggest that the port would be switched to a Micro-B port in the future...

dagelf · Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:12 am

This device support power reset ?
I connect usb yota ltu150

[admin@mk01] > system routerboard pr
routerboard: yes
model: RouterBOARD mAP 2n
serial-number: 51FD049F496A
current-firmware: 3.17
upgrade-firmware: 3.17
[admin@mk01] > system routerboard usb pr
usb-mode: automatic
bootstrap: host-mode
[admin@mk01] > system routerboard usb power-reset
ERROR: USB power reset not implemented on this hardware

no. it does not heat up. You can press your hand against the router when it is working configured and loaded for max consumption and that is an unlikely scenario for the device.

This is an absolute dealbreaker for me... had big plans for this little router.

Unless I can figure out how to cycle the power... maybe a powered USB hub powered via POE, and then I can cycle the POE to power cycle the USB?... Should work, right? But there goes the size advantage unless I can find a miniature powered USB hub...

Dear Mikrotik.... can't you make the mAP support USB power reset? Or make something similar that does support it?

G2Dolphin · Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:17 pm

Looks like there's an upgraded version incoming — mAP-2nD. Probably it will.

But honestly dunno how it can support it while being able to be powered on from USB.

juliokato · Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:36 pm

I have two Routerboard mAP-2n, one the power reset usb is implemented and other nothing:

admin@5AC204xxxxxx] > /system routerboard print
       routerboard: yes
             model: RouterBOARD mAP 2n
     serial-number: 5AC204xxxxxx
current-firmware: 3.24
upgrade-firmware: 3.24
[admin@5AC204xxxxxx] > /system routerboard usb power-reset
[admin@5AC204xxxxxx] >

-----------------------------------------------------

[admin@CAPS-MAP01] > /system routerboard prin
       routerboard: yes
             model: RouterBOARD mAP 2n
     serial-number: 5AC202xxxxxx
     firmware-type: ar9330L
factory-firmware: 3.17
current-firmware: 3.24
upgrade-firmware: 3.24
[admin@CAPS-MAP01] > /system routerboard usb power-reset
ERROR: USB power reset not implemented on this hardware
[admin@CAPS-MAP01] >

But there is no reference on changes or hardware revisions of these two devices.

This is a problem in acquiring it is a lottery!!!

tyby · Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:27 pm

Guys, quick question(s)

I tried to search for info, but without success.

Can I use a mAP-2n ethernet ports in bridge mode with wlan interface? It would help me to reduce the cablings (I need an extra AP on my upper floor, I already have cable for TV and I would like to connect network cable to eth0, and a patch-cord for TV to eth1. And, of course, to keep wlan clients in the same network.

Second one: is the map-2n delivered with pOE injector? Or should I buy one along with the device? If no/yes, what type?

Thanks!

darkprocess · Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:09 pm

Yes you can bridge both interfaces and make it act as an ap.
It's not delivered with a poe injector. Mikrotik injector is recommended.

Envoyé de mon SM-G925F en utilisant Tapatalk

tyby · Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:57 pm

Thanks darkprocess!

darkprocess · Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:35 pm

Put your wlan interface in ap-bridge mode

G2Dolphin · Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:08 am

Looks like there's an upgraded version incoming — mAP-2nD. Probably it will.

And it arrives! Interesting that mAP2n dissapear from official routerboard.com site.

Some differences besides dual-chain WiFi and more faster processor (QCA9531 on the new, AR9331 on the original)?

tyby · Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:49 pm

Put your wlan interface in ap-bridge mode

Guys, sorry for late reply, I had a very rough summer lately.

Thanks for info.

I just received my brand new mAP 2nD, erased default config, started from scratch.

And ... I don't get it to do what I want. For now I only have a pretty expensive 2 ports ethernet switch. Managed.

It seems that I cannot make wlan1 to be up. In bridge1 I have all interfaces, like this:

ether1 - designated port
ether2 - designated port
wlan 1 - disabled port (italic)

export below

# sep/14/2016 16:45:20 by RouterOS 6.36.3
# software id = GU9G-Z1DB
#
/interface bridge
add name=bridge1
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] band=2ghz-b/g/n channel-width=20/40mhz-Ce country=romania disabled=no mode=ap-bridge wireless-protocol=802.11
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] authentication-types=wpa2-psk mode=dynamic-keys supplicant-identity=MikroTik wpa-pre-shared-key=password\
    wpa2-pre-shared-key=password
/ip hotspot profile
set [ find default=yes ] html-directory=flash/hotspot
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether1
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether2
add bridge=bridge1 interface=wlan1
/ip address
add address=192.168.0.253/24 interface=ether2 network=192.168.0.0
/ip dns
set servers=192.168.0.250,192.168.0.246
/ip dns static
add address=192.168.0.253 name=router
/ip route
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.0.254
/system identity
set name=mAP-2nD
/system routerboard settings
set cpu-frequency=650MHz protected-routerboot=disabled
[admin@mAP-2nD] >

I searched the forum / wiki, but without much success.

I will continue, but maybe one of you have a quicker idea.

PS: scope of work: eth1-eth2-wlan in bridge, I don't need WAN, firewall etc. I just need an AP with 2 LAN ports.

Thanks!

tyby · Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:20 pm

In the meantime I've done a reset with default on, made my changes, saved config text, reset again without default, feeded the saved config and ... wlan is working now, still disabled port, but I can see wifi signal (and connect to).

I will keep it under eyes for few days and revert.

Thanks!

MartijnVdS · Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:11 am

There is a missing gap, I think they don't print out all Mac

On devices with multiple ports, they tend to only print the first and last mac addresses of the range.

Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:02 am

Wireless will become "R" only when you connect to it. If you scan for networks, do you see it's SSID name?

tyby · Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:48 am

Wireless will become "R" only when you connect to it. If you scan for networks, do you see it's SSID name?

Hi Normis.

I think the post is addressed to me.

Now I can see the SSID, but - while writing my first post above - could not see nor the SSID set by me, nor the default SSID (Mikrotik-xxxxx), nor other "unknown" SSID.

For now, simple working config looks like below:

# sep/15/2016 11:37:26 by RouterOS 6.36.3
# software id = GU9G-Z1DB
#
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=E4:8D:8C:09:A4:42 auto-mac=no name=myBridge
/ip neighbor discovery
set ether1 discover=no
set ether2 discover=no
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] supplicant-identity=MikroTik
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk eap-methods="" management-protection=allowed mode=dynamic-keys name=myWPA2 supplicant-identity="" wpa-pre-shared-key=password wpa2-pre-shared-key=password
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] band=2ghz-b/g/n channel-width=20/40mhz-Ce country=romania disabled=no distance=indoors frequency=2452 mode=ap-bridge security-profile=myWPA2 ssid=mAP wireless-protocol=802.11
/ip neighbor discovery
set wlan1 discover=no
/ip hotspot profile
set [ find default=yes ] html-directory=flash/hotspot
/interface bridge port
add bridge=myBridge interface=ether2
add bridge=myBridge interface=wlan1
add bridge=myBridge interface=ether1
/ip address
add address=192.168.10.251/24 interface=ether2 network=192.168.10.0
/ip dhcp-relay
add dhcp-server=192.168.10.254 disabled=no interface=myBridge name=relay1
/ip dns
set allow-remote-requests=yes
/ip dns static
add address=192.168.10.251 name=router
/ip route
add distance=1 gateway=192.168.10.254
/system clock
set time-zone-name=Europe/Bucharest
/system identity
set name=mAP-2nD-frt01
/system routerboard settings
set cpu-frequency=650MHz protected-routerboot=disabled
/tool mac-server
add interface=myBridge

I really don't see critical changes from the one I posted above (but - with that one - SSID was NOT visible).

Hope this will help someone.

Cheers!

G2Dolphin · Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:10 pm

mAP 2n and mAP 2nD

It's hotter than previous 2n, probably because of heatsink attached. It can be overclocked to 750MHz and downclocked to 550 (2n can be only downclocked). Now there is voltage information in the System - Health (shows 4.6V being powered from USB). 802.3af PoE is working OK this time.

macsrwe · Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:50 pm

no, it will not have voltage monitor.

Routerboard.com says mAP has voltage monitor (click box under "Features"). mAP product page says mAP has voltage monitor. Winbox says mAP has no voltage monitor. Wish I knew whether this was a Winbox bug or a marketing bug.

troffasky · Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:46 am

802.3af PoE is working OK this time.

So, in summary, can we pass 802.3af PoE in to the mAP2nD and get 802.3af PoE out of it?

janisk · Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:17 am

no, it will not have voltage monitor.
Routerboard.com says mAP has voltage monitor (click box under "Features"). mAP product page says mAP has voltage monitor. Winbox says mAP has no voltage monitor. Wish I knew whether this was a Winbox bug or a marketing bug.

sometimes it would be useful to check at what date, month or year the comment is made. And maybe notice that most probably that is done for the previous revision in 2014.

macsrwe · Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:42 am

I understand the comment was old -- but both the Winbox resilts and the marketing literature at routerboard.com are absolutely current, they don't agree, and it would be nice for whichever is wrong to get corrected.

mjbop1 · Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:52 am

What about a mAP AC lite with AF/AT power and 2-3 10/100/1000 ports
This would rock in a dorm room. If the price point could be around the hAP AC Lite

Arcticfox · Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:56 pm

Would be great to add USB-NIC mode - mAP gains 3rd Ethernet interface via USB.

G2Dolphin · Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:00 pm

So, in summary, can we pass 802.3af PoE in to the mAP2nD and get 802.3af PoE out of it?

Not sure about 802.3af in ether2, but an active PoE device turns on instantly and works well...

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risk · Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:06 pm

What about a mAP AC lite with AF/AT power and 2-3 10/100/1000 ports
This would rock in a dorm room. If the price point could be around the hAP AC Lite

hAP ac lite with gigabit ports and in a smaller package for the price of hAP ac lite

sure, I'd buy that!

Would be great to add USB-NIC mode - mAP gains 3rd Ethernet interface via USB.

I'd like it to be type-c

Arcticfox · Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:01 pm

What about a mAP AC lite with AF/AT power and 2-3 10/100/1000 ports
This would rock in a dorm room. If the price point could be around the hAP AC Lite
hAP ac lite with gigabit ports and in a smaller package for the price of hAP ac lite

sure, I'd buy that!

Would be great to add USB-NIC mode - mAP gains 3rd Ethernet interface via USB.
I'd like it to be type-c

Yes, type-c would be optimal, but could port be more "compatible" with possibility of use micro-USB type-B compatible (depends from controller).

risk · Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:29 pm

Yes, type-c would be optimal, but could port be more "compatible" with possibility of use micro-USB type-B compatible (depends from controller).

+1 - Everyone has a handful of old micro-b chargers at home they're not using that can be given a second life.

troffasky · Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:48 pm

So, in summary, can we pass 802.3af PoE in to the mAP2nD and get 802.3af PoE out of it?
Not sure about 802.3af in ether2, but an active PoE device turns on instantly and works well...

According to the manual for the Yealink W52P it is an 802.3af device, and I doubt that Cisco SB PoE switch is anything other than 802.3af, so I think your answer to my question is "yes"!

Arcticfox · Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:29 pm

Is any news about USB-NIC feature?

Arcticfox · Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:04 am

+ half year passed.
No answers...

troffasky · Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:45 pm

You could read between the lines as follows - this page has been obsoleted:

https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Supported_Hardware

in favour of this page:

https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Peripherals

so you could read that as no, no USB NIC support.

eriitguy · Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:42 pm

Hello, mikrotik team!

Please consider the following request for next upgrade of mAP:
1. Embedded LTE with SIM slot
2. 32 MB of storage
3. USB type C

Thank you!

StrataNet · Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:35 am

When connected to USB is it able to power a sxt with poe?

Unfortunately not (I've just tried this). I knew it would be a long shot (and would probably exceed the current that USB can put out) but just wanted to try it anyway.

However, the "PoE out" LED still comes on when powering from USB. MikroTik, may I suggest a firmware update to turn this LED off when powered from USB, to avoid confusion?

pothi · Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:36 am

When connected to USB is it able to power a sxt with poe?
Unfortunately not (I've just tried this). I knew it would be a long shot (and would probably exceed the current that USB can put out) but just wanted to try it anyway.
However, the "PoE out" LED still comes on when powering from USB. MikroTik, may I suggest a firmware update to turn this LED off when powered from USB, to avoid confusion?

Thanks for clarifying. I was just about to buy mAP. But, wanted to make sure it can power SXT with PoE when powered via USB. Yes, a firmware update would be nice.

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