Future products using WIRELESS 802.11ac?

adn2377 · Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:34 am

Hi,

I use MikroTik in two separate locations, at home I have a 450G + RB951Ui-2HnD setup (since at the moment of purchase there was NO good solution for Wireless + Gigabit ports) and on the other location I use one RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN (acquired a few years later).

In both locations I currently use an 100 Mbps internet line (NAT).

I plan to upgrade my setup in both locations and use an internet connection with a bandwidth of 1 Gbps (NAT), and also replace Wireless N connections with Wireless AC (802.11ac).

I searched the current product line and I saw no simple solution for my desired setup. In a perfect world, I would like to find a product like RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN but using 802.11ac and also a faster processor, in order to allow me to use the 1 Gbps internet connection better.

I could pay more that 129 USD for it, but probably no more than 200 USD.

Has the MikroTik team any intention of producing some new devices using 802.11ac in the near future?

Thanks!
Stefan

Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:48 pm

Not now. In the future? Everything is possible.

peper · Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:04 am

While it is currently mearly impossible to find just a good access point with dual band/AC support inside your budget, I'm afraid getting All-in-one device with all the specs you requested for less than 200 is unreal. Also, among current Mtk product line there are no SOHO devices capable of performing as gigabit home router.
So, I believe, your dream device is not going to arrive this year. Maybe 2016...
P.S. I'm using http://routerboard.com/RB2011UiAS-IN with dedicated UniFi AP AC at home and pretty happy with this tandem, but my Internet access is "only" 100 Mbit/s and those two devices sum up in over $500. So, smth between $300-$400 would be more realistic price for SOHO router with 8-10 gigabit ports, AC access point built-in and capable CPU. Apple AirPort Extreme cost $200, but it has only 3 lan ports and the same (if not smaller) number of settings.

gotsprings · Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:07 pm

I would be happy to see dual band.

Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:10 am

the MUM season starts soon. Maybe something nice is announced then

peper · Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:15 pm

the MUM season starts soon. Maybe something nice is announced then

Your smile from the photo means you know smth... But won't tell in advance... As usual...

Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:20 am

Normis always knows something but he keeps it secret. And the picture is unchanged for ages, as he always knew something....

Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:25 am

the MUM season starts soon. Maybe something nice is announced then

Let's see in Prague. I will be there

Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:32 pm

Me too.

gotsprings · Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:23 pm

Anyone else Sick to Death of having to put Ubiquiti UniFi WAPS on Mikrotik Routers?

CapsMan sounds cool. But with no DualBand options from Mikrotik... I am stuck.

peper · Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:59 pm

Anyone else Sick to Death of having to put Ubiquiti UniFi WAPS on Mikrotik Routers?

CapsMan sounds cool. But with no DualBand options from Mikrotik... I am stuck.

Now they presented hAP AC. Coo. But not enough Ethernet ports for my home.
Now they presented RB3011. Cool - has 10 Gigabit Ethernet ports. But no dual-band. No cool again.
So, I go eat my antisickness pills and continue to "suffer" from UniFi AP AC.

gotsprings · Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:07 pm

Anyone else Sick to Death of having to put Ubiquiti UniFi WAPS on Mikrotik Routers?

CapsMan sounds cool. But with no DualBand options from Mikrotik... I am stuck.
Now they presented hAP AC. Coo. But not enough Ethernet ports for my home.
Now they presented RB3011. Cool - has 10 Gigabit Ethernet ports. But no dual-band. No cool again.
So, I go eat my antisickness pills and continue to "suffer" from UniFi AP AC.

Announced where? I can't find reference to those devices.

edit
http://i.mt.lv/eu15.pdf

Q3. Holy crap.

Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:48 pm

Something like this (R5SHPac) could be really great. A mini PCI 5 ghz single chain ( 1x1 ) which supports 800 mw transmit power. Something like this could possibly support a 300 meg rate connection using a single polarity antenna at a distance of 10 to 18 miles with plenty of CCQ to spare.

Something like a future Mikrotik R5SHPac mini PCI card could possible enable all Miktorik WISPs to be able to perform a simple PCI card upgrade/swap to make the leap from 54 meg (802.11a) or 108 meg (802.11a 40 wide) or 150 meg (802.11 n ) range connections to be able to achieve 300 meg rate connections - while still using their existing single polarity antenna and the same RB motherboards.

pukkita · Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:28 pm

adn2337, pepper: It's already possible, just pick an RB3011-In, and a R11e-5HacT.

It should do 200+ MBps NAT and dual concurrent bands. It would be slightly more than $200 (RB3011-2HnD is $199), but its performance will match the price.

Check the MUM pdf the R11e-5HacT and some pricings are there.

peper · Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:52 pm

adn2337, pepper: It's already possible, just pick an RB3011-In, and a R11e-5HacT.

It should do 200+ MBps NAT and dual concurrent bands. It would be slightly more than $200 (RB3011-2HnD is $199), but its performance will match the price.

Check the MUM pdf the R11e-5HacT and some pricings are there.

If I'm not mistaken 5H in its name means it has only 5GHz, not 2,5. So it is impossible to build dual-band AP with this card. You can either have one, or other, not both (which is still needed in many scenarious for backward compatibility). Unlike hAP AC, which is advertised to have dual-band built-in.

Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:00 pm

Even with 52 card you can use only one of the bands at once. You would need two cards to have both bands active simultaneously.

pukkita · Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:54 pm

RB3011-2HnD already has built-in 2.4GHz 11b/g/n inside; adding the mini-PCIe R11e-5HacT to it you're adding a second wireless interface that you can set up just for 5GHz AC, thus coexisting 2.4GHz B/G/N and 5GHz AC.

As jarda pointed out no "single" card in the market can operate in two different bands simultaneously; all dual band APs have two different wireless interfaces for concurrent dual band operation, hAP AC included.

WirelessRudy · Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:53 pm

RB3011-2HnD already has built-in 2.4GHz 11b/g/n inside; adding the mini-PCIe R11e-5HacT to it you're adding a second wireless interface that you can set up just for 5GHz AC, thus coexisting 2.4GHz B/G/N and 5GHz AC.

As jarda pointed out no "single" card in the market can operate in two different bands simultaneously; all dual band APs have two different wireless interfaces for concurrent dual band operation, hAP AC included.

And an extra set of antenas?

honzam · Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:38 pm

RB3011-2HnD already has built-in 2.4GHz 11b/g/n inside; adding the mini-PCIe R11e-5HacT to it you're adding a second wireless interface that you can set up just for 5GHz AC, thus coexisting 2.4GHz B/G/N and 5GHz AC.

As jarda pointed out no "single" card in the market can operate in two different bands simultaneously; all dual band APs have two different wireless interfaces for concurrent dual band operation, hAP AC included.

Yes, it is true. But rb3011 have no integrated wireless. It have only one miniPCIe slot.
So you can use 5 or 2,4Ghz. Both NOT

pukkita · Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:28 pm

And an extra set of antenas?

Yep...

Yes, it is true. But rb3011 have no integrated wireless. It have only one miniPCIe slot.
So you can use 5 or 2,4Ghz. Both NOT

do you mean the UiAS-2HnD has the miniPCIe slot already populated? Saw at some point the one displayed was open but didn't check it out...

kiler129 · Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:41 pm

Unfortunately it looks like they just mounted 2.4Ghz card in mini-PCIe slot

@normis post http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 46#p475446 seems to confirm that.

honzam · Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:42 pm

Yes, see this image from MUM. miniPCIe slot is occupied by card r11e

Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:26 pm

That is one of the reasons why I am not happy with 3011...

Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:01 pm

That is one of the reasons why I am not happy with 3011...

The thought just occurred to me - there are devices which the gigabit ports of 2011 are known to have trouble properly connecting with. (Cisco devices are in this list!!) My cablemodem wouldn't link on the gigabit ethernet port of my 2011.

The 3011 is all gigabit ports now.... suppose you come across a device that it won't talk to . . . .