more like RB2011 replacement with bit more adequate(to year and consumers purposes/demand)SoC/CPu within than originally used in 2k11.its hard to say something about rb3011 price without knowing performance.
dual core ARM CPU probably exceeds RB850gx2 performance (130us without case and powersupply) + 5 more gigabit ports at 179us (with case and power supply, without wlan), sounds fair to me.
a good option to get a intermediate point of performance between rb2011 (99us) and rb1100ahx2 (349us)
I understood what he was trying to say without a problem and I agree with him fully. It's getting hard to have Mikrotik be my #1 brand when they are not communicating and keep delaying products.You should better use google translate, it sure does a better job.
+1MikroTik team - is there any chance to purchase RB3011 at THIS 2015 Year?
When this questions' counter will reach 9000.When is it coming to market?
i writen that message from my smartphone, and maybe make a typo mistakes.You should better use google translate, it sure does a better job.
if that cost is correct will be very nice!!A russian webshop has the RB3011 in preorder here:
http://www.lanmart.ru/mikrotik-rb3011uias-2hnd-in.html
It's the version with a 2 GHz wireless card.
If i'm correct they sell it for 8662 RUB witch is approximately €120,-
And hAP AC for 3000 RUB (less than $50), aha.A russian webshop has the RB3011 in preorder here:
http://www.lanmart.ru/mikrotik-rb3011uias-2hnd-in.html
It's the version with a 2 GHz wireless card.
If i'm correct they sell it for 8662 RUB witch is approximately €120,-
prices on pre-orders in most web-sites tend to be "approximately" and usually tend to be put "slightly optimistic" for marketing reasons(i guess:)And hAP AC for 3000 RUB (less than $50), aha.A russian webshop has the RB3011 in preorder here:
http://www.lanmart.ru/mikrotik-rb3011uias-2hnd-in.html
It's the version with a 2 GHz wireless card.
If i'm correct they sell it for 8662 RUB witch is approximately €120,-
Not liking that it is again 2 switch groups.
Yes, I've seen this price many months ago, maybe even when RUB wasn't so low. I meant just that we can't really trust a store with not valid price, even if this is the only thing that seems wrong.prices on pre-orders in most web-sites tend to be "approximately" and usually tend to be put "slightly optimistic" for marketing reasons(i guess:)
as for hAP prices in particular shop - thats perhaps old stocks from times when RUB cost 2x more in $.
they one of 3-5 biggest MT resellers/dealers in central part of RF and had perhaps some supply/stocks of gear, thus.
Maybe because they could not fit a QSGMII switch chip, so that 2 gigabit interfaces are better for routing than 1.Not liking that it is again 2 switch groups.
yes, very strange, in rb2011 was justified by one switch was integrated on cpu (fast ethernet) and the other was a gigagit additional chip
one reason i can imagine its this cpu integrate one 5 port gigabit switch and the second its a additional chip.
maybe 8 port manageable gigabit switch its too much expensive in comparison with 5 port
block diagram will say it
Notice the CPU — it's Atheros QCA8337-AL3C, with MIPS architecture.
im confused thenNotice the CPU — it's Atheros QCA8337-AL3C, with MIPS architecture.
So in RB750Gr2 as a CPU, and in RB3011 as a switch, CPU just goes offline? Or two gigabit switches like this, one with one CPU core = dual-core unit?I understand that is the switch chip, not the CPU.
They must be having fun in Mikrotik seen us speculatingSo in RB750Gr2 as a CPU, and in RB3011 as a switch, CPU just goes offline? Or two gigabit switches like this, one with one CPU core = dual-core unit?I understand that is the switch chip, not the CPU.
hEX lite CPU: QCA9531-BL3A-RSo in RB750Gr2 as a CPU, and in RB3011 as a switch, CPU just goes offline? Or two gigabit switches like this, one with one CPU core = dual-core unit?I understand that is the switch chip, not the CPU.
new baby = long birthTake too long time to go out new RB3011.
+1i'm curious how much IPSec traffic this thing will be able to handle
Stop harping about it - it's starting to be really annoyingTake too long time to go out new RB3011.
according torecently I had so chance at the MUM to ask about RB3011 specs
This is what i know so far:
1) CPU is Dual core IPQ8064 1,4GHz
2) There are 2 Gigabit switch groups 5 ports each and SFP
3) Each Switch have 2x1Gbps connection to CPU (one to each core?)
4) as soon as you Plug SFP module, SFP port will get one of the 1Gbps lines from ether6-10, leaving ether6-10 on single 1Gbps line.
5) There are only minipci-e slot, no build-in wireless, so just 1 possible wireless interface.
Hope that this will be useful
that does not mean that RouterOS is supporting that crypto accelerator. Would be nice to know otherwise i would buy some device from a competitor and stop waiting for RB3011
according to
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Qualcomm_Atheros
it has crypto accelerator
and a packet engine
what device you think its a good alternative??that does not mean that RouterOS is supporting that crypto accelerator. Would be nice to know otherwise i would buy some device from a competitor and stop waiting for RB3011
according to
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Qualcomm_Atheros
it has crypto accelerator
and a packet engine
I also think about moving to ERLITE. Can you tell how much IPSec traffic it can handle? i might even can put it in front of a rb2011 just to do the ppp and ipsec termination and let do the rb2011 all the other stuffMy two cents on that...I like Mikroik software but the combination of RouterOS and Mikrotik hardware some times in frustraring: to handle PPP over filber having 300/30 Mbits...One needs to go to across 1100 device ? It is crazy: RB850x2 no comments to add to whast has been discused again and again, RB2011 still waiting to be replace by RB3011...
The RB3011...a lot of expectation around thsi device was, in my opinion, with two major flaws:
- It's late...
- Probably to create more frustration becuase again RouterOS will not be abble to capitalize SOC features (hardware acceletarion and others...).
In the meantime, I decided to give a try to Ubiquity: I have got and ERLITE 3 device and it's is working so far so well and very stable...but:
- Ubiquty software is far from RouterOS: but after learning what works and what not...it works. Why one needs thsi flexibility when the configuration is stable...I needed to disable VLAN offloading becuase having reliability issues with my VLAN ISP provider configuration, but nothin more.
- Hardware; I hacked the device becuase too high temperatures in place: so I needed to place a more agresive cooling solution in place (...about 5€, reusing a Intel procesor fan and thermal adhesive paste..nothing more).
I was planning to wait for an RB3011, yes for a SOHO configuration: buttoday this is about 500 Mbits at the minimum , IPTV, IP phone, etc. Mikrotik is no more in this segment.....there is a long list of frustrated fans of RouterOS in Spanish forums that are now frustrated and tired of waiting: they are moving to ERLITE (yes...but works) or now to any ASUS SOHO device to answer their needs.
i sum it up for you: UNBT-branded gear had no Meaningful advantages over MT products.I got your point, if having to use ERLITEXX in disparate scenarios, profesionally, etc. I'll never go with them for sure:
- Software...bad, bery bad documented, a support forum that always leads you to feel stupid or to convince you to be a contributor on a never polished software bundle.
- Not hardware too, sorry. They use a cheap USB key, temperature problems, etc. at least for small devices.
But in SOHO context, not without tons of hours of play and test, it's possible to reach a secured and stable configuration with ERLITE3: with a 300/30 Mbits (arg... PPP, NAT, VLAN, QoS becuase IPTV...) fiber connection having IPTV and Internet trafic to the limits, no packet losses (my ISP allocates authomatically aditional bandwitth to guaranty 300/30 for pure Internet trafic), no inestabilities, etc, and for a really reasonable price.
About the CPU they use: I agree with you: it is not powerfull, but software is enabled to use hardware offloading capcbilities embeded into the SOC, at least for normal configurations or my configurations: this can be seen as a hack, in my opinion is about to enable them...CPU never goes over 7% of usage with the device at the limit and firewall rules closing the open doors.
I sincerelly believe that Mikrotik is losing a segment in SOHO context: more and more trained users are tired of generic devices (ASUS, Netgear...), overloaded with "tons" of not specifically router options, that should be updated with open source software that works but with concerns on security, stability,...(Tomato, and other flavours..): these users wnat a router not a device to spend hours and hours as a hobist, learning networking, etcc.
Please, let us know something about RB3011 in advance: at this point accurate details should be available, and to share them with us, the Customers, would be perceived as a symthom of confidence from you side.
I think it is clear by now that they found an issue with either the hardware or software that is preventing the release. Once they have a solution, I am sure they will give more information and a release date. Until then, just assume that the device doesn't exist.Toc toc, MIkrotik....Please, let us know something about RB3011 in advance: at this point accurate details should be available, and to share them with us, the Customers, would be perceived as a symthom of confidence from you side.
I asked support on the off chance they'll reply.
I have a RB450G i want to upgrade since it's a bit of a bottleneck, problem is I can't really justify the price of a CCR1009, I'm not sure an RB2011 would be enough of an upgrade to justify the cost of that either depends how much fastrack helps it along I guess..
the 450G is sitting on a Gigabit link and seems to run out of grunt at around 200-300Mbit/s (Does have a lot of firewall rules.etc in though)
850gx2 is more powerful than 2011 or hex
what device you think its a good alternative??that does not mean that RouterOS is supporting that crypto accelerator. Would be nice to know otherwise i would buy some device from a competitor and stop waiting for RB3011
according to
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Qualcomm_Atheros
it has crypto accelerator
and a packet engine
what device you think its a good alternative??
that does not mean that RouterOS is supporting that crypto accelerator. Would be nice to know otherwise i would buy some device from a competitor and stop waiting for RB3011
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turr ... 045#/story
looking thismany vendors recently announced networking SoC on A35 ARM cores, which beat anything on market in both density and performance/power&heat ratio.
most interesting things anounced by mediatek, but qualcomm(their atheros division, thus) or freescale, marvel and others(samsung ? ) definitely can release something cool, cute too.
my bottom line: RB3011 gonna be quickly demoted in model line, both because performance compared to most(even in SOHO market)vendors and arch support lagging/deprecating in linux upstream, slowly coming into effect for its too(like happened with 24k and other branches of MIPS over time). cost of backporting/fixing/securing/maintaining legacy kernels for deprecated gear is "too high" even for some of biggest companies, apparently.
commodity networking application is irrelevant to "high-perfomance" chips/SoC.
looking this
http://anandtech.com/show/9769/arm-announces-cortex-a35
looks like a35 is most focused on power efficiency than pure performance
It uses the same CPU as our RB3011 but has less ports and features. So I think RB3011 is for youI am waiting for something powerfull like this: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turr ... rce-router#/ from mikrotik
Turris:It uses the same CPU as our RB3011 but has less ports and features. So I think RB3011 is for youI am waiting for something powerfull like this: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turr ... rce-router#/ from mikrotik
That's the RackMounted version. Without Wifi. Let alone dual band. And it's just a PDF/spec sheet. Can you order/pay for it, so that a few days later you have the actual working product in your hands? No. It's just something that shows the marketing department also spent some time on it.Yes. It is shown right now.
http://www.cdr.pl/download/RB3011_RM.pdf
Unfortunately RB3011 is not dualband. Could you compare hAP AC performance to RB3011?It uses the same CPU as our RB3011 but has less ports and features. So I think RB3011 is for you
Unfortunately RB3011 is not dualband. Could you compare hAP AC performance to RB3011?It uses the same CPU as our RB3011 but has less ports and features. So I think RB3011 is for you
it should be accurate in this casehttp://linitx.com/product/mikrotik-rout ... -psu/14584 - Interesting LinITX are listing the 3011-RM for start DEC.
Might ask them about it if I remember as sometimes the dates on the sites aren't that accurate.
That's a nice early christmas presentit should be accurate in this casehttp://linitx.com/product/mikrotik-rout ... -psu/14584 - Interesting LinITX are listing the 3011-RM for start DEC.
Might ask them about it if I remember as sometimes the dates on the sites aren't that accurate.
Oh, c'mon! Everyone loves rack-mounted stuff - it looks so professionalHoping a desktop version is not far behind, the RM version won't fit where I want to locate one (To wide)
yes and with only 10watt of power consumption i guess it has no fans totally silentOh, c'mon! Everyone loves rack-mounted stuff - it looks so professionalHoping a desktop version is not far behind, the RM version won't fit where I want to locate one (To wide)
i think a good setup will be the rb3011rm as a router and hAP AC (full version) for wireless accessThat's the RackMounted version. Without Wifi. Let alone dual band. And it's just a PDF/spec sheet. Can you order/pay for it, so that a few days later you have the actual working product in your hands? No. It's just something that shows the marketing department also spent some time on it.Yes. It is shown right now.
http://www.cdr.pl/download/RB3011_RM.pdf
In short, it's not what (I assume) most people on this thread are waiting for.
As a home user, I like my RB951G. I like how it's so nice and small, how much functionality it has, how easy it is to configure lots of things, how easy it is to upgrade software, etc. But really, other people (let's call her "she") do not care about that. She does not care about all the cool features or command-line access or easy configuration. What she does care about is not having fast Wifi when she's working on her laptop or shopping on her phone. And at some point patience is going to run out.
So, I have a few options:
- Build/buy a Mikrotik 802.11ac AP (Netbox5, RB912?), to add on top of the current setup.
- Add a different 802.11ac AP (such as the new UAP-AC line from the UBNT dark side).
- Wait until hell freezes over for the hAP AC or RB3011 (dual-band??) to arrive.
- Go to the store now, buy a current 100~150€ Netgear/Asus router, put one of the custom firmwares (dd-wrt, tomato) on it, and have almost all of the desired functionality (for home users) up&running by tomorrow.
I've been postponing #4 for a long while now, because "that shiny new Mikrotik IPQ8064 dual-band router is right around the corner". But really, with all the delay, and especially the lack of any clear communication by Mikrotik regarding availability dates, I'm tired of it. I can understand if their focus is on the SMB/Enterprise market, and not on "home enthusiasts", so they might not really care about it, but this is losing them customers.
thx for te infoit should be accurate in this casehttp://linitx.com/product/mikrotik-rout ... -psu/14584 - Interesting LinITX are listing the 3011-RM for start DEC.
Might ask them about it if I remember as sometimes the dates on the sites aren't that accurate.
http://linitx.com/product/mikrotik-rout ... -psu/14584 - Interesting LinITX are listing the 3011-RM for start DEC.
Might ask them about it if I remember as sometimes the dates on the sites aren't that accurate.
You are wrong. You can order from us and we will ship RB3011 to you on tuesday/wednesday next weekThat's the RackMounted version. Without Wifi. Let alone dual band. And it's just a PDF/spec sheet. Can you order/pay for it, so that a few days later you have the actual working product in your hands? No. It's just something that shows the marketing department also spent some time on it.
In short, it's not what (I assume) most people on this thread are waiting for.
P2020 from freescale is comparable with chip used in RB3011.Turris:It uses the same CPU as our RB3011 but has less ports and features. So I think RB3011 is for youI am waiting for something powerfull like this: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turr ... rce-router#/ from mikrotik
simultanous dualband, 2x USB 3.0, 2x miniPCIe, mSATA, 1GB RAM, SIM card slot, dimmable RGB LEDs
7x gigabit port
rb3011: 11x gigabit port, 1x USB 3.0, 1x miniPCIe
Realy have Turris less features?
We will see rb3011 this year?
both IPQ processors(they semi-idential, yet. both two-core, yet(no 4x and 8x core announced, yet. no higher-clocked, no A35 or A53-based announced yet, too)) are low-power chip for low-power, unexpensive devices, ie mainstream, cheap routers with nearly 1.5W watt power package(under 2W anyway, some speculated about 3W overclocked max) so its does NOT need fanthx for te infoit should be accurate in this casehttp://linitx.com/product/mikrotik-rout ... -psu/14584 - Interesting LinITX are listing the 3011-RM for start DEC.
Might ask them about it if I remember as sometimes the dates on the sites aren't that accurate.
can you confirm if rb3011 have fans for cooling??
can you confirm something about hardware crypto on rb3011??
So it was worth to wait? Hmmm, 2 switch chips, no direct ports to cpu, 10w, throttled line with sfp, about 150-180 $/€...
Better go with ccr 1009?
and maybe lowering the clock of cpuDoes somebody had time to check the power consumption, e.g. idle no ports connected, and idle all ports connected? Thx!
Maybe you want to tell something like :This is total fiasco from MT. Customers wanted powerful units, but get unfinished and bugged devices.
Most of the time, software, not hardware, is buggy. Also, all competitors have the same problems.I'm scared that also RB3011UiAS-2HnD version could be bugged in first series.. This could be a total fiasco from MT. Customers wants powerful units, not unfinished and bugged devices.
cpu-used: 12%
cpu-used-per-cpu: 13%,12%
free-memory: 996832KiB
Of course there is no loop, but 3011 don't believe me:
Could you please do me a favour and check if your RB3011 clock is working fine? Mine looses about 80 seconds per hour and NTP syncing is not working (with ntp package).I have one RB3011UiAS-RM
I have the same problem on rb3011, clock not work correctly.Could you please do me a favour and check if your RB3011 clock is working fine? Mine looses about 80 seconds per hour and NTP syncing is not working (with ntp package).
near NY i had similar issues on some of my MIPSBE devices aswell(both on stable or RC branches of ROS)I have the same problem on rb3011, clock not work correctly.Could you please do me a favour and check if your RB3011 clock is working fine? Mine looses about 80 seconds per hour and NTP syncing is not working (with ntp package).
Thanks for this. Google translate to English is really bad but I get a good idea of the review. Thanks again!Part 2, RB3011 vs RB850Gx2
http://lanmarket.ua/stats/testirovanie- ... 011UiAS-RM
rb3011 don´t support fasttrack
Why not ?rb3011 don´t support fasttrack
Sorry, RB3011 don't support fastpath too.
You are not alone! Check out my thread http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... ead#unreadcpu-used: 12%
cpu-used-per-cpu: 13%,12%
free-memory: 996832KiB
Of course there is no loop, but 3011 don't believe me:
Any comment on the looping problem? I am getting nothing from my support ticket.Hello,
The RB3011 block diagram has been updated to better represent internal connections among CPU cores.
Do you have an English translation? Google won't translate the page.First part of review RB3011
http://lanmarket.ua/stats/obzor-marshru ... 011UiAS-RM
Try microsofttranslatorDo you have an English translation? Google won't translate the page.First part of review RB3011
http://lanmarket.ua/stats/obzor-marshru ... 011UiAS-RM
Thank you! Did not know about that one.Try microsofttranslator
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.a ... 011UiAS-RM
Tilera/EZchip/Mellanox: TILE->ARMWhy ARM platform to run non optimized nor finished software?