how can i open the attachment??Here is the homework for wireless. Link is at 2km, using rb800 and sparklan wpea-110n and our config posted on this forum. Link is stable using 2 chains under v4.5 ... UDP test at 200.1M ... Real internet traffic achieved is between 180 and 190M downloading from rapidshare... Check picture:
no, 4.9 fixes the issue and wds should no longer be required. this was true for earlier versions. check the changelog.nstreme with WDS
same Q !!how can i open the attachment??Here is the homework for wireless. Link is at 2km, using rb800 and sparklan wpea-110n and our config posted on this forum. Link is stable using 2 chains under v4.5 ... UDP test at 200.1M ... Real internet traffic achieved is between 180 and 190M downloading from rapidshare... Check picture:
what kind of antennas do you use??
tnx
bye
Try out the latest 5.2 beta firmware and check latency when passing traffic. With AIRMAX-on I get under 10ms latency sending 90Mbps TCP traffic on a 6 mile link. With AIRMAX-off its about 35ms but the thoughput is 15 megs lower.I noticed that PtP link works best without airmax.
yesHere is the homework for wireless. Link is at 2km, using rb800 and sparklan wpea-110n and our config posted on this forum. Link is stable using 2 chains under v4.5 ... UDP test at 200.1M ... Real internet traffic achieved is between 180 and 190M downloading from rapidshare... Check picture:
Here it is again:Normis is on vacation.
I guess the problem is with exe post on 11.05.2010.
It seems the attachment was deleted (it is not possible to find on server), so we should ask exe to upload it one more time.
I am testing two RB411 now in bridge and can't get 200 Mbit UDP which I achieved about year ago with bridge with RB600A and RB433AH maybe at that time routeros 4.2.
Current setting and condition:
- indoor test
- Two RB411 with R52N, routeros 4.9
- bridge, WDS, 5 GHz-n, hw. retries 3
- signal is good, CCQ is good and stable over 90%
- link speed is i 270 Mbit HT and estimated P throughput is 150 Mbit
- 300 MHz CPU is not overloaded, usage about 30 % caused partly by test itself
- routeros UDP test goes up to 47 Mbit, speedtest.net mini measured 37 Mbit TCP
Why max. real UDP throughput is only 50 Mbit then it should be 200 Mbit?
Is this some limit of RB411 even CPU is not loaded too much?
Weird thing is that link speed can't get to 300 Mbit HT, only 270 HT even with good signal.
5GHz a mode real UDP throughput is 29 Mbit with good CCQ and 54/54 Mbit link speed, real TCP test using speedtest.net mini measure about 23 Mbit TCP
There should be some magic setting somewhere.
I have to buy another RB600A or other more powerfull board to repeat earlier tests and compare results.
Something is not OK.. My own experience is that 65mbit HW makes 60mbit thruput, 121mbit HW makes 95mbit thruput, as count as counting 270mbit has to make at least 210mbit thruput in layer2.. There is inter chain problem.. I will work this out next monthI have same issue with 270HT mbps. My link also never connect at 300HT/300HT. All time is connected on 270HT/270HT. Can anyone tell me what's wrong in my config?
Very Thanks.
I am testing two RB411 now in bridge and can't get 200 Mbit UDP which I achieved about year ago with bridge with RB600A and RB433AH maybe at that time routeros 4.2.
Current setting and condition:
- indoor test
- Two RB411 with R52N, routeros 4.9
- bridge, WDS, 5 GHz-n, hw. retries 3
- signal is good, CCQ is good and stable over 90%
- link speed is i 270 Mbit HT and estimated P throughput is 150 Mbit
- 300 MHz CPU is not overloaded, usage about 30 % caused partly by test itself
- routeros UDP test goes up to 47 Mbit, speedtest.net mini measured 37 Mbit TCP
Why max. real UDP throughput is only 50 Mbit then it should be 200 Mbit?
Is this some limit of RB411 even CPU is not loaded too much?
Weird thing is that link speed can't get to 300 Mbit HT, only 270 HT even with good signal.
5GHz a mode real UDP throughput is 29 Mbit with good CCQ and 54/54 Mbit link speed, real TCP test using speedtest.net mini measure about 23 Mbit TCP
There should be some magic setting somewhere.
I have to buy another RB600A or other more powerfull board to repeat earlier tests and compare results.
hi does anybody know what the distance between 2 grids must be to use 2 chains 0n each side
thanks
culd you more recently introduce situation - antennas, distance and what system you use (routerboard, pc)...I also tested 802.11n this mooning.
On production link simple replace UB5 on both side with R5nH and pigtail cable use some setting like before nstreme enabled, WDS static other side station WDS, adaptive noise immunity ap and client mode all like before on 5Ghz turbo link. Both side 4.9
Mode 5Ghz-a/n and change one new thing HT extension channel above control.
Noting special to configure.
And here is results.
Compare to 5GHz turbo link much better speed simple replace only minipci card. Before TCP test one side usually 60-65Mbps now is 80-95Mbps.
I like 802.11n is work good with only one chain (antena).
I will try to replace some others link and try 2,4Ghz-n.
What is MS? And MK....
AM I correct that you work from MS to MS
...
Would be nice if MK will increase the power to +/- 400 mW so that the loss could be compensated for. Call it a R52H+n card.
0 R name=wlan1 mtu=1500 mac-address=00:0C:42:64:2C:2C arp=enabled disable-running-check=no interface-type=Atheros 11N radio-name=000C42642C2C mode=ap-bridge ssid=NG-HH area="" frequency-mode=superchannel country=canada antenna-gain=0 frequency=5700 band=5ghz-onlyn scan-list=default rate-set=configured supported-rates-b=1Mbps,2Mbps,5.5Mbps,11Mbps supported-rates-a/g=6Mbps,9Mbps,12Mbps,18Mbps,24Mbps basic-rates-b=1Mbps basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps max-station-count=2007 ack-timeout=dynamic tx-power-mode=default periodic-calibration=default periodic-calibration-interval=60 dfs-mode=none wds-mode dynamic wds-default-bridge=bridge1 wds-default-cost=100 wds-cost-range=50-150 wds-ignore-ssid=no update-stats-interval=disabled default-authentication=yes default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-client-tx-limit=0 proprietary-extensions=post-2.9.25 wmm-support=disabled hide-ssid=no security-profile=default disconnect-timeout=3s on-fail-retry-time=100ms preamble-mode=both compression=no allow-sharedkey=no station-bridge-clone-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 ht-ampdu-priorities=0 ht-guard-interval=any ht-extension-channel=above-control ht-supported-mcs=mcs-4,mcs-5,mcs-6,mcs-7,mcs-8,mcs-9,mcs-10,mcs-11,mcs-12,mcs-13,mcs-14,mcs-15 ht-basic-mcs=mcs-4,mcs
-5,mcs-6,mcs-7 ht-txchains=0 ht-rxchains=0 ht-amsdu-limit=8192 ht-amsdu-threshold=8192 hw-retries=15 frame-lifetime=0 adaptive-noise-immunity=none hw-fragmentation-threshold=disabled hw-protection-mode=none hw-protection-threshold=0 frequency-offset=0
Check very first pages of this topic, there was something mentioned about your problem. After upgrade to 4.10 I don't see any of those.i found posts which mentioned that N and nstream is not compatible but i had same 'not polled for to long' on pure A links.
maybe MT ppl can tell us how to solve this ?
on pure data links it's not a big problem if 1 ping will be lost but on links carrying call center voice traffic its catastrophe
unfortunately, no. n-draft usable when everything is almost ideal. and after that nobody knows why if not usable. we fighting for bandwidth test of 100Mbps (FDX) @ 5km link already year - unsuccessfully. -55dBm levels, 140Mbps, but only one directional. when direction=both, worst results done.I have a poor link that is only running at 3 mbps with 10 Mhz channel bandwidth.
It is a link with no good line of sight, because many trees and bushes are there.
Is it possible to use 802.11n for that link and getting more speed?
Greetings
I have a customer trying to accomplish it right now. He's using some high dollar filters to do it. He's got the link working, but he's still working out the kinks to try to get it above the bandwidth of just one fully maxed out 2x2 40MHz N link.it's still only a dream
+1.. I'm think of moving back to 11a-turbo setup already..
1 R name="r52-n" mtu=1500 mac-address=00:0C:42:61:98:05 arp=enabled disable-running-check=no interface-type=Atheros 11N
radio-name="r52piontec_1" mode=ap-bridge ssid="test-1" area="" frequency-mode=manual-txpower country=poland
antenna-gain=16 frequency=5200 band=5ghz-onlyn scan-list=default rate-set=default
supported-rates-b=1Mbps,2Mbps,5.5Mbps,11Mbps
supported-rates-a/g=6Mbps,9Mbps,12Mbps,18Mbps,24Mbps,36Mbps,48Mbps,54Mbps basic-rates-b=1Mbps basic-rates-a/g=6Mbps
max-station-count=2007 ack-timeout=dynamic tx-power=12 tx-power-mode=card-rates periodic-calibration=default
periodic-calibration-interval=60 dfs-mode=none wds-mode=dynamic-mesh wds-default-bridge=mesh-testb
wds-default-cost=100 wds-cost-range=50-150 wds-ignore-ssid=no update-stats-interval=disabled
default-authentication=yes default-forwarding=yes default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-client-tx-limit=0
proprietary-extensions=post-2.9.25 wmm-support=enabled hide-ssid=no security-profile=default disconnect-timeout=3s
on-fail-retry-time=100ms preamble-mode=both compression=no allow-sharedkey=no
station-bridge-clone-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 ht-ampdu-priorities=0,1 ht-guard-interval=any
ht-extension-channel=above-control
ht-supported-mcs=mcs-0,mcs-1,mcs-2,mcs-3,mcs-4,mcs-5,mcs-6,mcs-7,mcs-8,mcs-9,mcs-10,mcs-11,mcs-12,mcs-13,mcs-14,mcs-
15
ht-basic-mcs=mcs-0,mcs-1,mcs-2,mcs-3,mcs-4,mcs-5,mcs-6,mcs-7 ht-txchains=0,1 ht-rxchains=0,1 ht-amsdu-limit=8192
ht-amsdu-threshold=8192 hw-retries=3 frame-lifetime=0 adaptive-noise-immunity=none
hw-fragmentation-threshold=disabled hw-protection-mode=none hw-protection-threshold=0 frequency-offset=0
I dont think it can be fixed, you are splitting radio time 50/50 between AP and STATION. If you make it station its 100% dedicated to connecting to AP, if it's AP BRIDGE WDS then its 50% station, 50% AP.The bandwith in WDS (ap bridge/wds - ap bridge-wds) mode is much less than in the mode of the ap bridge/station. When will it be fixed?
So using MPLS bridge setup should eliminate this problem?I dont think it can be fixed, you are splitting radio time 50/50 between AP and STATION. If you make it station its 100% dedicated to connecting to AP, if it's AP BRIDGE WDS then its 50% station, 50% AP.
Thank you for your reply. Well, how do I optimize the network, if I use a dual radio - one module to access and one module for backhaul? MPLS does not help here.I dont think it can be fixed, you are splitting radio time 50/50 between AP and STATION. If you make it station its 100% dedicated to connecting to AP, if it's AP BRIDGE WDS then its 50% station, 50% AP.The bandwith in WDS (ap bridge/wds - ap bridge-wds) mode is much less than in the mode of the ap bridge/station. When will it be fixed?
Its written there on the main page 2.3km.what max distance you test
with n-draft m5
Low Signal or Channel on the Edge of the Band.Its worth noting for people having bandwidth issue during testing that doing bandwidth tests from router to router caps out at around 30mbit for anything below RB433AH. During our testing we found that RB433 plain can only receive 30mbit, Changing to a 433AH resulted in more bandwidth but even than a RB433 will cap out at around 70mbit
Now for a question, Is there a reason for a single chain N link not to go into 40mhz? We've set HT extension channel but it wont go past 65mbit-HT and signal only shows a max of HT20-8 even tho the signal is -65
Simplest way to do is to turn down the output power to minimum.Hi , I am new one im mikrotik. Im using RB433 with N wifi card and 5ghz double antena. I use it only for 1 km and i think i need to attenuation signal. Now Its working like before with single 5ghz antena with G wifi card. I dont find where i can attenuation signal, can somebody help me ?
-55 to -65 is good from my experienceMaybe some hint what signal to look for? I mean in particular numbers.
Yip unfortunatelySo now, i understand, why Mikrotik don't write normal drivers for SR71-15
They don't need the clients, who loved to use Mikrotik hard&soft...
So we start t use Rockets, and each days we found that it works really
Hi forum!
We have been performing some tests with 802.11n+R52n cards and although we got excelent results when short distances and good (very good) signals, as the link gets longer and poorer N behaves quite worse than simple A (at least on 5GHz).
This is the scenario:
17km link
BASE: RB433 (v4.10) + R52n + Ubiquiti Dual Polarization (http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/RocketDish_Datasheet.pdf)
STATION: Same equipment than BASE
These are the results:
Frequent disconnections even when not performing bandwidth tests
Decent signal but very poor bandwidth
No improvments as frecquency changes
No improvments either with different configurations (nstreme, wds, 5Gh-only-N, a,n, 5Ghz, etc)
No improvments when using different polarization combinations on HT Chains.
CPU goes to 100% on both BASE and STATION when performing TCP BandwidthTest (Not UDP)
These are the screenshots:
BASE-Wireless:
BASE-HT:
BASE-HT MCS:
BASE-WDS:
BASE-NSTREME:
BASE-Signal:
STATION-Signal:
BASE-BandwidthTest UDP:
BASE-BandwidthTest TCP:
Any suggestions will be welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Hey Newbie,
Thanks for your quick response. The antennas might not be well-aligned but still I think bandwidth is too poor for the signal got. Anyhow we'll be pleased you could send those info to us. Link placemarks below:
BASE-Lat: 39.519716°
BASE-Long: -0.466781°
STATION-Lat: 39.381389°
STATION-Long: -0.574501°
Best regards.
This is your problem :-0.574501
Hey Newbie,
Thanks for your quick response. The antennas might not be well-aligned but still I think bandwidth is too poor for the signal got. Anyhow we'll be pleased you could send those info to us. Link placemarks below:
BASE-Lat: 39.519716°
BASE-Long: -0.466781°
STATION-Lat: 39.381389°
STATION-Long: -0.574501°
Best regards.This is your problem :-0.574501
there is no clear line of site
please give me your email address I will send you infgo
/interface wireless
set 0 ack-timeout=dynamic adaptive-noise-immunity=none allow-sharedkey=no \
antenna-gain=0 area="" arp=enabled band=5ghz-onlyn basic-rates-a/g="" \
basic-rates-b="" comment="" compression=no country=no_country_set \
default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-authentication=yes default-client-tx-limit=\
0 default-forwarding=yes dfs-mode=none disable-running-check=no disabled=\
no disconnect-timeout=3s frame-lifetime=0 frequency=4920 frequency-mode=\
superchannel frequency-offset=0 hide-ssid=no ht-ampdu-priorities=0 \
ht-amsdu-limit=8192 ht-amsdu-threshold=8192 ht-basic-mcs=mcs-0 \
ht-extension-channel=above-control ht-guard-interval=any ht-rxchains=0,1 \
ht-supported-mcs=mcs-0,mcs-1,mcs-13,mcs-14,mcs-15 ht-txchains=0,1 \
hw-fragmentation-threshold=disabled hw-protection-mode=none \
hw-protection-threshold=0 hw-retries=15 l2mtu=2290 \
max-station-count=2007 mode=ap-bridge mtu=1500 name=\
wlan1 on-fail-retry-time=100ms periodic-calibration=default \
periodic-calibration-interval=60 preamble-mode=both \
proprietary-extensions=post-2.9.25 rate-set=\
configured scan-list=default,4920 security-profile=default ssid=\
test station-bridge-clone-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 \
supported-rates-a/g="" supported-rates-b="" tx-power=10 tx-power-mode=\
all-rates-fixed update-stats-interval=disabled wds-cost-range=50-150 \
wds-default-bridge=bridge1 wds-default-cost=100 wds-ignore-ssid=no \
wds-mode=dynamic wmm-support=disabled
/interface wireless nstreme
set wlan1 comment="" disable-csma=no enable-nstreme=yes \
enable-polling=yes framer-limit=3200 framer-policy=none
and the config at point B:
/interface wireless
set 0 ack-timeout=dynamic adaptive-noise-immunity=none allow-sharedkey=no \
antenna-gain=0 area="" arp=enabled band=5ghz-onlyn basic-rates-a/g="" \
basic-rates-b="" comment="" compression=no country=no_country_set \
default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-authentication=yes default-client-tx-limit=\
0 default-forwarding=yes dfs-mode=none disable-running-check=no disabled=\
no disconnect-timeout=3s frame-lifetime=0 frequency=4920 frequency-mode=\
superchannel frequency-offset=0 hide-ssid=no ht-ampdu-priorities=0 \
ht-amsdu-limit=8192 ht-amsdu-threshold=8192 ht-basic-mcs=mcs-0 \
ht-extension-channel=above-control ht-guard-interval=any ht-rxchains=0,1 \
ht-supported-mcs=mcs-0,mcs-1,mcs-13,mcs-14,mcs-15 ht-txchains=0,1 \
hw-fragmentation-threshold=disabled hw-protection-mode=none \
hw-protection-threshold=0 hw-retries=15 l2mtu=2290 \
max-station-count=2007 mode=station-wds mtu=1500 name=\
wlan2 on-fail-retry-time=100ms periodic-calibration=default \
periodic-calibration-interval=60 preamble-mode=both \
proprietary-extensions=post-2.9.25 rate-set=\
configured scan-list=default,4920 security-profile=default ssid=\
test station-bridge-clone-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 \
supported-rates-a/g="" supported-rates-b="" tx-power=15 tx-power-mode=\
all-rates-fixed update-stats-interval=disabled wds-cost-range=50-150 \
wds-default-bridge=bridge1 wds-default-cost=100 wds-ignore-ssid=no \
wds-mode=dynamic wmm-support=disabled
/interface wireless nstreme
set wlan2 comment="" disable-csma=yes enable-nstreme=yes \
enable-polling=yes framer-limit=3000 framer-policy=dynamic-size
Anyone from mikrotik care to comment on this? Seems pretty serious!then i started testing r52n and found something very strange...
all r52n has good signal value on the link, but only a few of them were able to run at 30Mb/s Full Duplex. After 30 hours of outdoor testing i found that 48 r52n were damaged.. speed about 5Mb/s, 16 r52n were able run at 25-27Mb/s, and only last 36 from 100 were able run at 35Mb/s Full Duplex (tested on exe´s config on 1 chain, 40MHz channel)
the worst thing about this is that there isn´t other way to figure out which one is good a which one isnt. (or i didn´t found one yet)
So if you have problems with your link and you´ve tried everything, including replace wireless card, don´t be so sure that new ones are fine.
how was that test done? speed is not an indication of card quality. it will depend on current conditions of the link, how many people use the link, if there is any traffic on it, etc. You would have to do the test in controlled environment with no interference and no connected devices to be even close to good testing conditions.Anyone from mikrotik care to comment on this? Seems pretty serious!then i started testing r52n and found something very strange...
all r52n has good signal value on the link, but only a few of them were able to run at 30Mb/s Full Duplex. After 30 hours of outdoor testing i found that 48 r52n were damaged.. speed about 5Mb/s, 16 r52n were able run at 25-27Mb/s, and only last 36 from 100 were able run at 35Mb/s Full Duplex (tested on exe´s config on 1 chain, 40MHz channel)
the worst thing about this is that there isn´t other way to figure out which one is good a which one isnt. (or i didn´t found one yet)
So if you have problems with your link and you´ve tried everything, including replace wireless card, don´t be so sure that new ones are fine.
THis is the frustration part of Mikrotik . They have the same attitude as Micro Soft. Only they know.how was that test done? speed is not an indication of card quality. it will depend on current conditions of the link, how many people use the link, if there is any traffic on it, etc. You would have to do the test in controlled environment with no interference and no connected devices to be even close to good testing conditions.Anyone from mikrotik care to comment on this? Seems pretty serious!then i started testing r52n and found something very strange...
all r52n has good signal value on the link, but only a few of them were able to run at 30Mb/s Full Duplex. After 30 hours of outdoor testing i found that 48 r52n were damaged.. speed about 5Mb/s, 16 r52n were able run at 25-27Mb/s, and only last 36 from 100 were able run at 35Mb/s Full Duplex (tested on exe´s config on 1 chain, 40MHz channel)
the worst thing about this is that there isn´t other way to figure out which one is good a which one isnt. (or i didn´t found one yet)
So if you have problems with your link and you´ve tried everything, including replace wireless card, don´t be so sure that new ones are fine.
No not at all. The main problem for me is heat. an then dealing with Scoop. WHatr we have is it over heats and then it fails.Is it so hard to write some details about the issues instead of just complaining that some of your cards are 'bad'?
Play little with Tx Power put it 18,19 or 20 dBm see what's happen with this signal level of course if everything else is ok u can rich 120-140 TCPNo not at all. The main problem for me is heat. an then dealing with Scoop. WHatr we have is it over heats and then it fails.Is it so hard to write some details about the issues instead of just complaining that some of your cards are 'bad'?
The speed getting 80 - 100 Mb/sec is super for me and the software is stable. The links are staying up for days and I am happy with the speed.
I truly want to help and contribute
I do understand that it is not a full duplex that is why we have a radio for rx and on for tx.
We have returned a 411 to poynting direct in Cpt where the heat unsoldered the connector. You can check it with them.
We could have resoldered the connector to the PC board.
We took the radio to scoop they tested it and no fault find. To scared to put it into the network again.
I can give you a login on to our router I can install more equipment that we can test and do what ever you guys need to do so it is not that I don't want to give more info ...
I can get stickers that change coulor with temp it is a good indication of where the temp stopped. THat can proof the temp prob.
My main prob is not getting the heat sorted and as a designer I understand that that is not easy as it comes and goes.
To me 70 M is super
Play little with Tx Power put it 18,19 or 20 dBm see what's hapenNo not at all. The main problem for me is heat. an then dealing with Scoop. WHatr we have is it over heats and then it fails.Is it so hard to write some details about the issues instead of just complaining that some of your cards are 'bad'?
The speed getting 80 - 100 Mb/sec is super for me and the software is stable. The links are staying up for days and I am happy with the speed.
I truly want to help and contribute
I do understand that it is not a full duplex that is why we have a radio for rx and on for tx.
We have returned a 411 to poynting direct in Cpt where the heat unsoldered the connector. You can check it with them.
We could have resoldered the connector to the PC board.
We took the radio to scoop they tested it and no fault find. To scared to put it into the network again.
I can give you a login on to our router I can install more equipment that we can test and do what ever you guys need to do so it is not that I don't want to give more info ...
I can get stickers that change coulor with temp it is a good indication of where the temp stopped. THat can proof the temp prob.
My main prob is not getting the heat sorted and as a designer I understand that that is not easy as it comes and goes.
To me 70 M is super
Problem is his TX/RX rate is too lowSo you are running the BT test from the router itself?
Yes I do enough CPU power to do itProblem is his TX/RX rate is too lowSo you are running the BT test from the router itself?
get bigger antenna instead. or at least use card rates, not all rates fixed.
i´ve tested od 400m link. Link si working fine for 3 months nonstop (my house) so i´m testing there.how was that test done? speed is not an indication of card quality. it will depend on current conditions of the link, how many people use the link, if there is any traffic on it, etc. You would have to do the test in controlled environment with no interference and no connected devices to be even close to good testing conditions.Anyone from mikrotik care to comment on this? Seems pretty serious!then i started testing r52n and found something very strange...
all r52n has good signal value on the link, but only a few of them were able to run at 30Mb/s Full Duplex. After 30 hours of outdoor testing i found that 48 r52n were damaged.. speed about 5Mb/s, 16 r52n were able run at 25-27Mb/s, and only last 36 from 100 were able run at 35Mb/s Full Duplex (tested on exe´s config on 1 chain, 40MHz channel)
the worst thing about this is that there isn´t other way to figure out which one is good a which one isnt. (or i didn´t found one yet)
So if you have problems with your link and you´ve tried everything, including replace wireless card, don´t be so sure that new ones are fine.
why not post here?get bigger antenna instead. or at least use card rates, not all rates fixed.
I send you a google earth .
The link is 8.5 Km I have two 30dB dishes and running ht1 and ht2. THe distance is 9 km I also send you an screen with the freq ussage and the scan stats.
why not post here?get bigger antenna instead. or at least use card rates, not all rates fixed.
I send you a google earth .
The link is 8.5 Km I have two 30dB dishes and running ht1 and ht2. THe distance is 9 km I also send you an screen with the freq ussage and the scan stats.
I see you use 4900-5200 frequencies. Most antennas have been made for 5800 or 5400, look at the antenna radiation patterns. You will also see that the wireless card is calibrated to run at it's full power at 5800.
If you can't change antenna, and you have no choice but to use such frequency, maybe you can upgrade to v5beta and try Nv2 which is what the mentioned motorola uses (TDMA)
Hello
I got a problem with r52n cards, If I set the data rates to configure or default, the maximal HT rate which achieved is HT20-8, and its dont achieved any HT40 data rates..so the maximal TCP throughput is 44Mbit FDX. I try to upgarde from 4.10 to 4.11 but still nothing, try to reset the router but it didnt helped. I'm thing that I use the right configuration, couse same place exectly same hardware is working at the moment with more than 108 mbit tcp throughput.. FDX, I also try to change the cards with other r52n-s
Heres my config at point A
Signal level is: -60/-63Code: Select all/interface wireless set 0 ack-timeout=dynamic adaptive-noise-immunity=none allow-sharedkey=no \ antenna-gain=0 area="" arp=enabled band=5ghz-onlyn basic-rates-a/g="" \ basic-rates-b="" comment="" compression=no country=no_country_set \ default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-authentication=yes default-client-tx-limit=\ 0 default-forwarding=yes dfs-mode=none disable-running-check=no disabled=\ no disconnect-timeout=3s frame-lifetime=0 frequency=4920 frequency-mode=\ superchannel frequency-offset=0 hide-ssid=no ht-ampdu-priorities=0 \ ht-amsdu-limit=8192 ht-amsdu-threshold=8192 ht-basic-mcs=mcs-0 \ ht-extension-channel=above-control ht-guard-interval=any ht-rxchains=0,1 \ ht-supported-mcs=mcs-0,mcs-1,mcs-13,mcs-14,mcs-15 ht-txchains=0,1 \ hw-fragmentation-threshold=disabled hw-protection-mode=none \ hw-protection-threshold=0 hw-retries=15 l2mtu=2290 \ max-station-count=2007 mode=ap-bridge mtu=1500 name=\ wlan1 on-fail-retry-time=100ms periodic-calibration=default \ periodic-calibration-interval=60 preamble-mode=both \ proprietary-extensions=post-2.9.25 rate-set=\ configured scan-list=default,4920 security-profile=default ssid=\ test station-bridge-clone-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 \ supported-rates-a/g="" supported-rates-b="" tx-power=10 tx-power-mode=\ all-rates-fixed update-stats-interval=disabled wds-cost-range=50-150 \ wds-default-bridge=bridge1 wds-default-cost=100 wds-ignore-ssid=no \ wds-mode=dynamic wmm-support=disabled /interface wireless nstreme set wlan1 comment="" disable-csma=no enable-nstreme=yes \ enable-polling=yes framer-limit=3200 framer-policy=none and the config at point B: /interface wireless set 0 ack-timeout=dynamic adaptive-noise-immunity=none allow-sharedkey=no \ antenna-gain=0 area="" arp=enabled band=5ghz-onlyn basic-rates-a/g="" \ basic-rates-b="" comment="" compression=no country=no_country_set \ default-ap-tx-limit=0 default-authentication=yes default-client-tx-limit=\ 0 default-forwarding=yes dfs-mode=none disable-running-check=no disabled=\ no disconnect-timeout=3s frame-lifetime=0 frequency=4920 frequency-mode=\ superchannel frequency-offset=0 hide-ssid=no ht-ampdu-priorities=0 \ ht-amsdu-limit=8192 ht-amsdu-threshold=8192 ht-basic-mcs=mcs-0 \ ht-extension-channel=above-control ht-guard-interval=any ht-rxchains=0,1 \ ht-supported-mcs=mcs-0,mcs-1,mcs-13,mcs-14,mcs-15 ht-txchains=0,1 \ hw-fragmentation-threshold=disabled hw-protection-mode=none \ hw-protection-threshold=0 hw-retries=15 l2mtu=2290 \ max-station-count=2007 mode=station-wds mtu=1500 name=\ wlan2 on-fail-retry-time=100ms periodic-calibration=default \ periodic-calibration-interval=60 preamble-mode=both \ proprietary-extensions=post-2.9.25 rate-set=\ configured scan-list=default,4920 security-profile=default ssid=\ test station-bridge-clone-mac=00:00:00:00:00:00 \ supported-rates-a/g="" supported-rates-b="" tx-power=15 tx-power-mode=\ all-rates-fixed update-stats-interval=disabled wds-cost-range=50-150 \ wds-default-bridge=bridge1 wds-default-cost=100 wds-ignore-ssid=no \ wds-mode=dynamic wmm-support=disabled /interface wireless nstreme set wlan2 comment="" disable-csma=yes enable-nstreme=yes \ enable-polling=yes framer-limit=3000 framer-policy=dynamic-size
noise-floor: -122dBm
Anyone see the same problem? And got any solution for this?
Throughput and CCQ in separate issue than PING.ping on idle link 3X !!!!!! higher 3-4 ms on idle link, on 4.6 firmware we have stable ~1ms link,
Yeah, it needs an update though so you can specify multiple streams instead of just running 10 instancesyou can also try the Btest tool from PC to PC, more control over the kind of traffic you test:
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/btest.exe
For months I have tried to get laptops with wireless N cards to associate to Mikrotik router using 802.11n - but it seems only possible to connect using b/g.
I have tried endless configurations without success. Is Mikrotik 802.11n only designed to connect to other MTs? I can see no other threads other than people discussing point to point links.
What if we want to use MT exclusively for campus and building APs? Fine if we stick with b/g but otherwise we will have to go with UBNT or Ruckus kit for wireless N clients.
Has anyone managed to solve this? Please post configs!
I've a centrino lap. It scales up to 11n rates for downloads but stays at 11a Rates (54Max) up.No I didn't enable NV2 - it wasn't available until recently anyway and certainly not using Nstreme.
I have tried every combination of extension channels, HT-MCS settings but I cannot get PC or Mac wireless clients to connect on N only.
If this won't work we will abandon MT for future hotspot deployments.
And how long has N been available on Mikrotik? Seems like other manufacturers can get it right. Why not MT?I've a centrino lap. It scales up to 11n rates for downloads but stays at 11a Rates (54Max) up.
Seems there are some incompatibilities.
I used RouterBoard 433ah r52n 2 wireless cards for this test.One wireless card I made as AP and and the second one as a client(without minipigtails and antennas) and the signal strengh was -56 db. I wrapped the wifi card with a layer of antistatic film, another layer of aluminum foil and the last layer of an antistatic film again. Then I checked the signal and I got to -72 db- Each outdoor box has only one RB433AH, one R52n and 2 pigtails. At first I put the test board together with another RB433AH in the same box and the RF interferences caused the link to work perfectly only on tx side: the rx side was interferred by the other miniPCI radio even though their working frequencies were spaced by 400MHz!
It seems like you could have some heat related issues with the cards wrapped up like that. Is this something you have ran in production?I used RouterBoard 433ah r52n 2 wireless cards for this test.One wireless card I made as AP and and the second one as a client(without minipigtails and antennas) and the signal strengh was -56 db. I wrapped the wifi card with a layer of antistatic film, another layer of aluminum foil and the last layer of an antistatic film again. Then I checked the signal and I got to -72 db- Each outdoor box has only one RB433AH, one R52n and 2 pigtails. At first I put the test board together with another RB433AH in the same box and the RF interferences caused the link to work perfectly only on tx side: the rx side was interferred by the other miniPCI radio even though their working frequencies were spaced by 400MHz!
This really helped.
I´ve also tested this on cards i use on normal links (wnc cm9) and nothing happened. Signal was always the same - around -71dB
I have a 25 mile link that's supposed to be -55.And just how long was that linke? -55 signal so what, 100m max?
Hello, we use this website for profiling http://www.alphimax.com/m4rk0, what software did you use to make those link drawings?
Hello @ all.
We are a small wisp in Germany. Im reading for a long time here in the forum. We have problems with N, too. The same Problem as chvdr.
Our Equipment at both Sites:
RB433AH + R52N + 2*30dBi Mars Antennas Flat Pannel (No DUAL!!) but in Dual-Polarisation (1 * hor + 1 * ver).
The 2 Antennas (H + V on both Sites) are mounted in a distance of 1 meter. The Distance of the 2 Points (AP and Client) are 11 Km.
The Line is TOP.
Thanks for help.....
joban
Yes, it would explain why after changing wifi cards for cards from Mikrotik signal deteriorates.please note that for the receive signal values the noise floor levels also are taken into the account. And that is why maybe the rx signal is not so high.
Hello,
I have this configuration:
2x RB411 + R52n-M
1x RB433 + 2x R52n-M
4x GRID 5GHz 27dB
RB411 client ->((( ~14km )))->[5640MHz] AP RB433 [5540MHz]<-((( ~15km )))<- RB411 client
Mode is 5GHz-only-N (MCS 0 - 6)
Signal ~ -70
When I try TX bw test from ap to both of clients it works fine, but when I try RX to clients it goes up to 1 Mbps and link drops...
Does anyone have any idea what could it be?
Thanks all for answer.
I think maybe using one chain can get little more bandwidth compare to 5Ghz turbo nstreme. Add one more antenna is little complicated need more space, stronger tower more cables is not option for now on that place. Also dual polarity antenna is usually solid parabolic antenna need stronger tower sometime time wind is very strong.
May be tested on some other place.
One more thanks to all.