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mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:59 pm

Does Mikrotik/Routerboard manufacture an antenna that can get similar link speeds as AirFiber?
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:36 am

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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:27 pm

Does Mikrotik/Routerboard manufacture an antenna that can get similar link speeds as AirFiber?
Do you use AirFibre? have you the actual live link speeds under different weather conditions and distances, rather than advertised speed?
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:31 pm

Yes. However i don't see how that pertains to my question.
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:30 pm

Yes. However i don't see how that pertains to my question.
Great - then you will have no problem is posting the speed you have with AirFiber (I assume its AirFiber5) and distance covered.
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:49 pm

I have been using AF24 for over tree months. 15.226 meters. 518/518Mbps. During the 3-5 minutes of very, very heavy rain (twice so far for this tree months), a pair of RB912 is taking over via OSPF. Dense fog, normal and light rain are not strong enough to brake the link. So, I would like to suggest AF24, since Saf, Alcoma,... are tooo expensive. Don't get me wrong, I don't like UBNT, every router and p2p link in my network is MTK, but UBNT did a great job with AF24.

I would like to see MF24 (MikrotikFiber), or maybe MF11, MF18,..

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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:16 pm

When I get to the office I'll post the current speed and distance. But if the answer is simply that there is no comparable antenna, than thank you. And we are using af24
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:30 pm

We got very off-topic from Your question. MTK doesn't have anything that can compare to AF speeds.
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:42 pm

I have been using AF24 for over tree months. 15.226 meters. 518/518Mbps. During the 3-5 minutes of very, very heavy rain (twice so far for this tree months), a pair of RB912 is taking over via OSPF. Dense fog, normal and light rain are not strong enough to brake the link. So, I would like to suggest AF24, since Saf, Alcoma,... are tooo expensive. Don't get me wrong, I don't like UBNT, every router and p2p link in my network is MTK, but UBNT did a great job with AF24.

I would like to see MF24 (MikrotikFiber), or maybe MF11, MF18,..

BR...
15.226 meters ?????
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:44 pm

Thank you blue
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:16 pm

15.226 meters ?????
Sorry, mistake. It is 15.227 meters or 9.462 miles :)
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:23 pm

15.226 meters ?????
Sorry, mistake. It is 15.227 meters or 9.462 miles :)
You are joking - Yes ? 24Ghz at 9.462 miles at the power they use, sorry to be doubtful but
many other users complain that throughput drops during any type of inclement weather,
And unless I see an actual throughput plot done for a prolonged rainy period, I will remain doubtful :?
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:34 pm

With firmware 2.0 they did a good job, we use AF24 in short links (2km) and they go at 775mbit speed FDD. Inside EIRP limits too.
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Today was an heavy rainy day. You can see at 13.30 the rate drop.
n21roadie, you should give it a try. I was sceptic aswell..
And yeah, Mikrotik should focus more on wireless again.. Maybe with a Cambium PMP450 like device too, that would be awesome.
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:52 pm

N21roadie, I assume that weather in Ireland is not the same as here in Balkans. I was skeptical myself. I was thinking that I throw away a lot of money. But after a month link paid for itself. If you can afford it, give it a try, but it is mandatory to use backup link of some kind in case of heavy rain. Go to http://community.ubnt.com/airfiber and read everything you can. Then if it is possible go to someone that has AF24 already installed. That is the exact way that I took, and it was success.

But if You are still doubtful, or maybe think that weather in Ireland is not compatible with AF24, try something else - much more expensive and slower.

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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Thu May 01, 2014 1:54 am

With firmware 2.0 they did a good job, we use AF24 in short links (2km) and they go at 775mbit speed FDD. Inside EIRP limits too.
Today was an heavy rainy day. You can see at 13.30 the rate drop.
n21roadie, you should give it a try. I was sceptic aswell..
And yeah, Mikrotik should focus more on wireless again.. Maybe with a Cambium PMP450 like device too, that would be awesome.
Thank you for posting and yes I have doubts when the chart displays RX (receive) does that mean that the AF24 is able to receive data up to those rates but what is the link actually transfering, how about the traditional method of throughput results with TCP and UDP results of both TX/RX before and after AF24 link, also there is a big difference between a distance of 2Kms and 15.2Kms
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Thu May 01, 2014 2:23 am

N21roadie, I assume that weather in Ireland is not the same as here in Balkans. I was skeptical myself. I was thinking that I throw away a lot of money. But after a month link paid for itself. If you can afford it, give it a try, but it is mandatory to use backup link of some kind in case of heavy rain. Go to http://community.ubnt.com/airfiber and read everything you can. Then if it is possible go to someone that has AF24 already installed. That is the exact way that I took, and it was success.

But if You are still doubtful, or maybe think that weather in Ireland is not compatible with AF24, try something else - much more expensive and slower.

BR...
Just checked "...Annual Rainfall here in Ireland averages between 1000 and 1400 mm. In many mountainous districts rainfall exceeds 2000mm per year...", So unless AF24 has something really special I will remain skeptical and look at throughput for 7.6Km link http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-S ... s-p/795860
Capacity = 773Mbps Throughput 61Mbps/12.8Mbps RX/TX and this is full duplex ? - I am not impressed but it would be nice if Mikrotik used licence exempt 17GHz instead of 24GHz
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Thu May 01, 2014 2:09 pm

Note that the throughout is the current throughout across the af. It's doubtful that anyone is pushing near a gig at any one time unless it's a backbone connection.
Our one link is roughly 1km and only ever has about 20Mb going across it. But it has a capacity near 740Mb
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Thu May 01, 2014 4:08 pm

Note that the throughout is the current throughout across the af. It's doubtful that anyone is pushing near a gig at any one time unless it's a backbone connection.
Our one link is roughly 1km and only ever has about 20Mb going across it. But it has a capacity near 740Mb
1Km what is actual max throughput of AF24?

I have read a lot of comments by users on this forum, who are either pro-MT or Pro-Ubnt and there is one common agreement AF24 throughput nose dives and sometimes the link will lose connectivity during rain showers,

Capacity figures are of no value when I read
Capacity = 773Mbps the figure looks impressive but the actual throughput of 61Mbps/12.8Mbps RX/TX
 
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Re: mikrotik product similar to AirFiber

Thu May 01, 2014 6:35 pm

Again, I think you are confusing throughput with link capacity. The throughput is only what is currently passing through the AF. So what you are seeing may actually be what is passing through.

To get a proper performance metric, you would have to run a traffic generator. As I have a production link, I will not be running performance metric testing on the link.

However, like I mentioned. I can verify that my throughput matches what the Mikrotik is reporting on it's interfaces directly connected to the airfiber.

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