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Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 4:29 pm

Hi I have to realize a PTP link with 2 Dual Polarization Dish with 28dBi gain and RB912 5GHz, now I have to choice the best protocol for this short link (3Km). I need a ping as lowest as possible and a throughput about 100Mbps so I'm undecided between NV2 and Nstreme dual, which one should I choose?
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 4:33 pm

Obviously nv2. Search on my old post for the better configuration example of one ptp nv2.
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 4:40 pm

I searched with nv2 and ptp keywords but I can't find the posts :(
Can you link me discussion?
Thanks a lot.
 
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Sat May 24, 2014 5:27 pm

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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:33 pm

Hi I have to realize a PTP link with 2 Dual Polarization Dish with 28dBi gain and RB912 5GHz, now I have to choice the best protocol for this short link (3Km). I need a ping as lowest as possible and a throughput about 100Mbps so I'm undecided between NV2 and Nstreme dual, which one should I choose?
Your request for lowest ping - NV2 will not give you that, it will give you higher throughput,
At 3Kms I would use N protocol and 40Mhz channel
 
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Sat May 24, 2014 5:33 pm

Thanks, I add you Karma.
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:35 pm

Hi I have to realize a PTP link with 2 Dual Polarization Dish with 28dBi gain and RB912 5GHz, now I have to choice the best protocol for this short link (3Km). I need a ping as lowest as possible and a throughput about 100Mbps so I'm undecided between NV2 and Nstreme dual, which one should I choose?
Your request for lowest ping - NV2 will not give you that, it will give you higher throughput,
At 3Kms I would use N protocol and 40Mhz channel
So I have to exclude nstreme and choice between 802.11N and NV2?
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:38 pm

After 2 Jump (1 ptp nv2 23,5Km + 1 ptp nv2 8Km), 14ms Google.com is too much delay?

With only one jump 2km: 11ms

(I'm on Italy, i have choose Google.com, but Google.it have lower ping delay)
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:43 pm

Hi I have to realize a PTP link with 2 Dual Polarization Dish with 28dBi gain and RB912 5GHz, now I have to choice the best protocol for this short link (3Km). I need a ping as lowest as possible and a throughput about 100Mbps so I'm undecided between NV2 and Nstreme dual, which one should I choose?
Your request for lowest ping - NV2 will not give you that, it will give you higher throughput,
At 3Kms I would use N protocol and 40Mhz channel
So I have to exclude nstreme and choice between 802.11N and NV2?
Some posters here have reported difficulties with Nstreme using V6+, a search will give more info.
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:45 pm

I answer with my experience and production machine, not virtually or theoretically, or with "I have read..."

In all my production machine I have 6.10,
all my CPE have 5.26 except the newest have 6.7.

User-Manager, PPPoE and DNS have 6.7 (for the bad rewriting of ppp protocol on 6.8+)
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:46 pm

After 2 Jump (1 ptp nv2 23,5Km + 1 ptp nv2 8Km), 14ms Google.com is too much delay?

With only one jump 2km: 11ms

(I'm on Italy, i have choose Google.com, but Google.it have lower ping delay)
The OP requested lowest ping time over a 3Kms distance, fact remains NV2 will not give lowest ping time
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:48 pm

After 2 Jump (1 ptp nv2 23,5Km + 1 ptp nv2 8Km), 14ms Google.com is too much delay?

With only one jump 2km: 11ms

(I'm on Italy, i have choose Google.com, but Google.it have lower ping delay)
The OP requested lowest ping time over a 3Kms distance, fact remains NV2 will not give lowest ping time
>>>fact remains NV2 will not give lowest ping time
For all the CPE or considering only PtP?

Now I made one test, wait please....
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:51 pm

Now with Nstreme, i have 16ms delay on Google.com...

Using Nstreme instead NV2 increase latency on MY link.
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:57 pm

I answer with my experience and production machine, not virtually or theoretically, or with "I have read..."
Strange - some of you replies encourage posters to search or read further which is good, but when you are asked to search you appear not to like such a reply?

I have been on this forum for a considerable time and there a lot of helpful tips and advice given , but as always any advice given should be taken as "...it works for me but not may not work for your configuration..."

To simply dismiss what others say or report is not wise move by anyone?
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 5:59 pm

Now with Nstreme, i have 16ms delay on Google.com...

Using Nstreme instead NV2 increase latency on MY link.
Nstreme single or dual?
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 6:02 pm

I answer with my experience and production machine, not virtually or theoretically, or with "I have read..."
Strange - some of you replies encourage posters to search or read further which is good, but when you are asked to search you appear not to like such a reply?

I have been on this forum for a considerable time and there a lot of helpful tips and advice given , but as always any advice given should be taken as "...it works for me but not may not work for your configuration..."

To simply dismiss what others say or report is not wise move by anyone?
USer can simply test the configuration, "slave" is auto, master must be set or nstreme or nv2, can directly try.

Really my answer to you are birth after your "fact remains".
The FACT, for me, are live examples, not hypothesis or theory...
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 6:03 pm

Now with Nstreme, i have 16ms delay on Google.com...

Using Nstreme instead NV2 increase latency on MY link.
Nstreme single or dual?
Nstreme, without the "2" or dual is Nstreme single.

Also you write about Nstreme (single):
>>>Some posters here have reported difficulties with Nstreme using V6+, a search will give more info.
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 6:10 pm

Hi I have to realize a PTP link with 2 Dual Polarization Dish with 28dBi gain and RB912 5GHz, now I have to choice the best protocol for this short link (3Km). I need a ping as lowest as possible and a throughput about 100Mbps so I'm undecided between NV2 and Nstreme dual, which one should I choose?
What module you add to RB912?

It's impossible use Nstreme dual if you not add another wi-fi module.
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 6:14 pm

Hi I have to realize a PTP link with 2 Dual Polarization Dish with 28dBi gain and RB912 5GHz, now I have to choice the best protocol for this short link (3Km). I need a ping as lowest as possible and a throughput about 100Mbps so I'm undecided between NV2 and Nstreme dual, which one should I choose?
What module you add to RB912?

It's impossible use Nstreme dual if you not add another wi-fi module.
I supposed that the dual polarization can suite the n stream dual...
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 6:16 pm

Hi I have to realize a PTP link with 2 Dual Polarization Dish with 28dBi gain and RB912 5GHz, now I have to choice the best protocol for this short link (3Km). I need a ping as lowest as possible and a throughput about 100Mbps so I'm undecided between NV2 and Nstreme dual, which one should I choose?
What module you add to RB912?

It's impossible use Nstreme dual if you not add another wi-fi module.
I supposed that the dual polarization can suite the n stream dual...
Not, you must two wlan for use nstreme dual, but really I not know if on latest 6.7+ firmware are added nstreme dual using two separate channel instead of two wlan...
 
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Sat May 24, 2014 8:07 pm


Not, you must two wlan for use nstreme dual, but really I not know if on latest 6.7+ firmware are added nstreme dual using two separate channel instead of two wlan...

Do you think that the Rb912 integrated radio is good for NV2 (or other, I have to see the ping under load) backhaul link?
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 8:10 pm

I think is good, in my opinion, but I never test directly that board.
In my production environment I use two Sextant G as PTP for 2Km link, and never have made problem.
Your board is better than the board inside the Sextant G.
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 10:28 pm

I think that more than 10ms in the backhaul is a bit much. Are there any improvement in using 802.11n? I used that in ptmp before switching to nv2 and it didn't run bad...
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 11:01 pm

I think that more than 10ms in the backhaul is a bit much. Are there any improvement in using 802.11n? I used that in ptmp before switching to nv2 and it didn't run bad...
One of the many benefits of using Mikrotik is that you will be able to compare each wireless protocol and see which one works best for you,
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sat May 24, 2014 11:15 pm

I think that more than 10ms in the backhaul is a bit much. Are there any improvement in using 802.11n? I used that in ptmp before switching to nv2 and it didn't run bad...
One of the many benefits of using Mikrotik is that you will be able to compare each wireless protocol and see which one works best for you,
Yes but I mean in theory
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sun May 25, 2014 1:25 am

Now go and do your tests... it's time. :lol:
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Sun May 25, 2014 8:49 pm

Now go and do your tests... it's time. :lol:
Yes, I'm waiting for the equipment.
 
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Re: Protocol choice for PTP link - NV2 or Nstreme dual

Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:54 pm

Hi, the radio-link is up.
With nLOS and nv2 I have 2ms avg ping, -56db tx/rx signal strenght, 200Mbps of throughput in UDP using bandwidth test and 85% tx/rx CCQ.

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