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Low cost WISP system

Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:27 am

Hi friends, please suggest a good low cost WIP system for our local WISP setup. I found SXT LITE 2 is good for client side. Also please suggest good antenna for WISP end. We are expecting around 20 customers at the beginning. So we need low end system for starting our business. SXT LITE 2 is good for WISP antenna ? What is the average coverage area for the antenna. Also please let me know expected coverage for the antenna.
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:34 pm

You can use Metal-2SHPn as AP and SXT Lite2 as WISP client. I think the coverage with both devices will be around 3km. If clear LOS 5-6 km.
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:22 pm

Hi friends, please suggest a good low cost WIP system for our local WISP setup. I found SXT LITE 2 is good for client side. Also please suggest good antenna for WISP end. We are expecting around 20 customers at the beginning. So we need low end system for starting our business. SXT LITE 2 is good for WISP antenna ? What is the average coverage area for the antenna. Also please let me know expected coverage for the antenna.

How much speed do you want to provide to the customers ?
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:44 pm

Use 5GHz band for client's connection and 2GHz for local portable devices.
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:27 am

How much speed do you want to provide to the customers ?
2 Mbps max.
You can use Metal-2SHPn as AP and SXT Lite2 as WISP client. I think the coverage with both devices will be around 3km. If clear LOS 5-6 km.
Which type of antenna for this device ? It just a router board. What is the expected price ?
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:15 am

How much speed do you want to provide to the customers ?
2 Mbps max.
You can use Metal-2SHPn as AP and SXT Lite2 as WISP client. I think the coverage with both devices will be around 3km. If clear LOS 5-6 km.
Which type of antenna for this device ? It just a router board. What is the expected price ?
You can use the 6dBi omni antenna which comes with the board. Or, can find third party omni antenna (TP-LINK, ALFA, Hyperlink, etc.)

It's a WISP AP with ROS. Its price is $99.
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:43 am

You can use the 6dBi omni antenna which comes with the board. Or, can find third party omni antenna (TP-LINK, ALFA, Hyperlink, etc.)

It's a WISP AP with ROS. Its price is $99.
How is the performance for Omni direction antenna come with the board ? How much users can handle Metal-2SHPn at a time. Any other low cost alternative for SXT LITE 2.

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Re: Low cost WISP system

Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:23 pm

You have to answer some questions before more can be said;

1. What is the bandwidth available to offer to your clients?
2. How much, and how (all share all, or each has a portion) is the bandwidth assigned to your clients?
3. What are the distances from AP to clients.
4. In wat spread 'seen' from the AP are the clients? (360 degrees around > Omni antenna, otherwise sector antenna(s))
5. What are the prospects in growth of your network? Its a shame if you start cheap to find yourself in a situation you have to start upgrading your setup soon...
6. Really think about the frequency usage. If your network will be 2,4Ghz but you also place wifi routers at your clients, you are prone of destroying your own network. Better use 5Ghz for the network and 2,4Ghz for indoor private wifi.
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:45 am

1. What is the bandwidth available to offer to your clients?
2-5 Mbps Max. About 25 Simultaneous users
How much, and how (all share all, or each has a portion) is the bandwidth assigned to your clients?
each has a portion (Authorised by PPPoE)
What are the distances from AP to clients.
expected 2 KM max
In wat spread 'seen' from the AP are the clients? (360 degrees around > Omni antenna, otherwise sector antenna(s))
As a beginner, I think Omnidirectional is good and cheap.
What are the prospects in growth of your network? Its a shame if you start cheap to find yourself in a situation you have to start upgrading your setup soon...
50-100 per annum
6. Really think about the frequency usage. If your network will be 2,4Ghz but you also place wifi routers at your clients, you are prone of destroying your own network. Better use 5Ghz for the network and 2,4Ghz for indoor private wifi.
As you know, enabling Nstream will hide the network from normail Wi-Fi devices.
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:53 am

As you know, enabling Nstream will hide the network from normail Wi-Fi devices.
But it wouldnt remove frequency interference...
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:11 pm

As you know, enabling Nstream will hide the network from normail Wi-Fi devices.
But it wouldnt remove frequency interference...
Exactly! Interference happens at the physical level of the radio waves. So no matter what protocol or modulation etc. you put on the wave, if its in the same radio band. That's why a babyphone, microwave, or any other device working in the 2,4Ghz band can, and will, molest your radio links.....

If I'd look at your future expected client base I would already start with two or tree sectors. (Or just two Omnitiks side by side, some 1,5mtrs apart and both with frequencies well spaced away from the other). This way you won't run easily in capacity issues and by using 5Ghz you also stay much longer out any interference issues.

Also imagine this: If you install Wifi router at your clients, and they will come up with issues (they definitely do!) than you have to explain that one of the possible interfering sources at the client's wifi is your own network! (If working in 2,4Ghz).
If your network is on 5Ghz this is not the case and actually it gives you a nice sales argument that you as professional internet supplier, are working in a different radio band than all that domestic stuff. :D
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:43 am

Best "low cost" solution is Omnitik and SXT-Lite5

2,4Ghz band is usually more congestioned.

With an Omnitik, you can go up to 60-70 customers with your requeriments.

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Re: Low cost WISP system

Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:31 am

Everyone is saying that 2.4ghz causes interference.
If AP and CPE is set to superchannel like 2312, 2732, Does it causes interference?
5ghz devices are more expensive than 2.4ghz.
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:11 am

And does it comply with the local regulations?
 
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Re: Low cost WISP system

Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:36 am

Best "low cost" solution is Omnitik and SXT-Lite5

2,4Ghz band is usually more congestioned.

With an Omnitik, you can go up to 60-70 customers with your requeriments.

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What is the expected price for Omnitik ?
 
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