The Dude is back! v6.34rc test build released

triac · Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:20 pm

Hi I've been using the new dude installed in a CCR and we see that the "ping" in any of the devices entered the program restarts.

chimaster · Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:22 am

Can I just say. About freaking time.

I hope you also lift up your communication with your customers and present us all with a roadmap. The dude is an incredible tool and if you implement half the serious requests and fix half the bugs you'll be unstoppable.

5/7

ALEJANDROgordon · Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:39 pm

with the new update, every time you make a change and restarted, the changes made are cleared and return to previous state.

abis · Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:37 am

with the new update, every time you make a change and restarted, the changes made are cleared and return to previous state.

true

xezen · Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:52 am

clients missing from download page

dorijan · Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:56 pm

Hi,
I have problem that I cannot import old backup

MikroTik RouterOS 6.34rc30 (c) 1999-2015 http://www.mikrotik.com/
[admin@xx-core] > dude
[admin@xx-core] /dude> print
enabled: yes
data-directory: disk1/dude
[admin@xx-core] /dude> import-db file=disk1/backup-2015.12.29-2.tgz
action timed out - try again, if error continues contact MikroTik support and send
a supout file (13)
[admin@xx-core] /dude> print

action timed out - try again, if error continues contact MikroTik support and send a supout file (13)
[admin@xx-core] /dude>

I put a microSDHC and formated it in ext3 and moved it to sdcard (disk1). It is a CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+

Anyone had similar problem?

Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:46 pm

@dorijan

How large is that backup file which you want to import? It might take a while to import larger backups and it will throw out that timeout error but system will continue the process anyhow. Try connecting to server after a while, if connection is refused then try either turning off/on dude server or rebooting the the ROS host.

If none of the suggestions help then generate supout file after repeated failed import attempt and send it to support@mikrotik.com and we'll check what might be the reason for import to fail.

dorijan · Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:52 pm

Thank you, it worked, backup file was 39 mb, maybe you should say something like processing in progress instead of this nasty error message

abis · Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:37 am

v6.34rc30 missing interfaces

link-problem.PNG

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:18 am

@dorijan

We do plan to add some progress/error indicator for db import/export process, so that will come in the future.

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:21 am

@abis

Problem with link monitoring in cases where ROS is used as mastering type is know to us. Dev has bug report for it. hopefully it will get fixed soon.

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:34 am

Changes in v6.34rc32 build:

* Fixed bandwidth test tool graphs.
* Ping tool client crash fixed.
* SNMPwalk tool client crash fixed.
* Spectral scan tool client crash fixed.
* In Admins > Group policies *web removed, no longer relevant.
* In Log configuration window sliders fixed.
* Right click "Open separately" fixed.
* Export to CSV client crash fixed.
* Fixed mastering type ROS for link label

* XML backup import fixed.
* Large DB export fixed.

ps, It might take a while to export large DB files. I did test with 4.5GB db and it
did take about 5-10min to create backup file on x86 VM.

abis · Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:34 am

@abis

Problem with link monitoring in cases where ROS is used as mastering type is know to us. Dev has bug report for it. hopefully it will get fixed soon.

Hello Krisjanis,

solved in v6.34rc32

Thank you for reply!

kivimart · Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:41 am

Yes that problem is solved, but i cant see live trafic in the history tab on static image of bandwith.

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:47 am

@abis @kivimart

Thank you for noticing that. I mixed up builds and thought that it was supposed to be fixed in next rc build.

ps, changelog corrected.

AiroSam · Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:54 pm

Changes in v6.34rc32 build:

* Fixed bandwidth test tool graphs.
* Ping tool client crash fixed.
* SNMPwalk tool client crash fixed.
* Spectral scan tool client crash fixed.
* In Admins > Group policies *web removed, no longer relevant.
* In Log configuration window sliders fixed.
* Right click "Open separately" fixed.
* Export to CSV client crash fixed.
* Fixed mastering type ROS for link label

* XML backup import fixed.
* Large DB export fixed.

ps, It might take a while to export large DB files. I did test with 4.5GB db and it
did take about 5-10min to create backup file on x86 VM.

Thanks krisjanis! Keep up the great work!

abis · Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:36 pm

It is possible to fix memory probe too?
For the moment is showing just cpu and disk % usage...

Thank you!

ALEJANDROgordon · Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:21 pm

Changes in v6.34rc32 build:

* Fixed bandwidth test tool graphs.
* Ping tool client crash fixed.
* SNMPwalk tool client crash fixed.
* Spectral scan tool client crash fixed.
* In Admins > Group policies *web removed, no longer relevant.
* In Log configuration window sliders fixed.
* Right click "Open separately" fixed.
* Export to CSV client crash fixed.
* Fixed mastering type ROS for link label

* XML backup import fixed.
* Large DB export fixed.

ps, It might take a while to export large DB files. I did test with 4.5GB db and it
did take about 5-10min to create backup file on x86 VM.

Excelent great job!

wa4zlw · Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:00 pm

GOod morning...

I'm still struggling why the decision was made to abandon the windows server? RouterOS is a router; a router is not a monitoring system. ANd vice-versa a monitoring system is not a router.

So whats the real reason?

Thanks leon

abis · Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:45 pm

GOod morning...

I'm still struggling why the decision was made to abandon the windows server? RouterOS is a router; a router is not a monitoring system. ANd vice-versa a monitoring system is not a router.

So whats the real reason?

Thanks leon

From my opinion is much better in this way, you can manage it more easy, less resources needed and no license for an windows server needed

You can use the Cloud Hosted Router image or you can setup your own RouterOS virtual machine with a custom install, create an MikroTik account, request a level 1 (Demo) key for free and that it!
Plus is much easy to update it, and when you connected to the server with the client, that one will request to be updated automatically to the new version

Sob · Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:34 am

Previously you had a choice. If you wanted Dude hosted on RouterOS (i.e. the same thing you're praising now), it was possible (not counting the time when it was broken for 6.x, that was a bug). And if you happened to already have Windows machine and just wanted to add Dude as simple service (as opposed to - in a way - more complicated setup with VM), it was possible too. Now you lost half of the options, not exactly what I would call "much better".

I'm still hoping it will come later, when the bugs get fixed, new features added, and everything stabilized.

rwf · Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:51 pm

Yes, Yes, Yes, Please!

Email - Sends email, need to specify Server address. Authentication not supported.

smtp authentication support add please

rwf · Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:05 pm

Your app has a couple of good reviews and a 2.3 rating, but according to your Google Play information this app was last updated in June, so does it work with this new version of The Dude or are you just plugging your product? Doesn't appear to be a way for us to even find out ourselves without signing up for a subscription with credit card and then cancelling it.

FYI

If any one wants to try a third party android client: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... dude&hl=en

compctech · Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:40 pm

Your app has a couple of good reviews and a 2.3 rating, but according to your Google Play information this app was last updated in June, so does it work with this new version of The Dude or are you just plugging your product? Doesn't appear to be a way for us to even find out ourselves without signing up for a subscription with credit card and then cancelling it.

FYI

If any one wants to try a third party android client: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... dude&hl=en

That is a 3rd party app. MikroTik has no control over that app and probably does not support it.

Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:08 pm

Your app has a couple of good reviews and a 2.3 rating, but according to your Google Play information this app was last updated in June, so does it work with this new version of The Dude or are you just plugging your product? Doesn't appear to be a way for us to even find out ourselves without signing up for a subscription with credit card and then cancelling it.

FYI

If any one wants to try a third party android client: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... dude&hl=en
That is a 3rd party app. MikroTik has no control over that app and probably does not support it.

That is correct. I was also thinking of deleting the post as it has no relevance to new dude builds cause web interface from which it pulled info is no longer there. Although it might still be useful to those that use v3.6 or v4.0b3 servers.

Pikoro · Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:33 pm

As the Dude is a free tool, why not release it under an open source license. The tool has a lot of potential but is extremely limited as far as development transparency goes. It runs on a linux based router but won't run on linux itself? Seems like this has a ton of other use cases. Stick it under a non-commercial license so others can't take it and sell it and let us work on it and extend it.

Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:04 am

Mikrotik is trying to monetize their effort invested in development. Combining the dude with ros is the way how to rise number of ros installations and get some additional money for licenses and/or rising the ccr selling using actual internal resources for code maintenance. Quite effective and not so much harmful to users. Anyway it is too early to say some judgement as it seems that mikrotik is still searching the way of life for Dude. It will take year or more till those who really use 3.6 or 4b3 will be confident it worths to move forward with dude.

Just my opinions.

sparker · Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:28 pm

Good day.

There are problems with the speed display in the Dude via SNMP devices in all models RB260GSP

dude.png

But while the graphics are displayed

dude2.png

PS: sorry for my bad English

Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:39 pm

@sparker

It's due to problem that RB260 has weak processor, in most cases it will have problems with snmp.

paams · Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:25 pm

Hello There! sorry to say that after searching a lot with every bit of information to download Dude at Mikrotik download page i didn't get this application/tool no where on Mikrotik download page. Where is the link to download this tool? Thanks.

Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:47 pm

i didn't get this application/tool no where on Mikrotik download page. Where is the link to download this tool?

Go to the MikroTik Downloads page, select "Release candidate (6.34rc39)" in the version selection dropbox, then click to expand either "tile" or "x86" section. You will find the links to download both "The Dude server" and "The Dude client" there.

paams · Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:01 pm

Hello

i didn't get this application/tool no where on Mikrotik download page. Where is the link to download this tool?
Go to the MikroTik Downloads page, select "Release candidate (6.34rc39)" in the version selection dropbox, then click to expand either "tile" or "x86" section. You will find the links to download both "The Dude server" and "The Dude client" there.

Hello Andriys! Okay thanks a lot. Got it and downloaded.

I have run downloaded Dude client on Windows XP and tried to connect my RB2011Ui RB, but its not getting connected. Where is the problem? Do i need to have upload Dude server .npk file to connected RouterBoard? Any further help will be appreciated. Thanks.

Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:22 pm

@paams

Dude server package is not available for MIPSBE devices.

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Th ... er_package

Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:13 pm

Changes in builds from v6.34rc34 to v6.34rc41:

* Scan tool - removed for now till it's reworked.
* Telnet tool - dude will throw out error if telnet client is not available on system where
dude client is installed.
* Dude tool - Corrected dude.exe launch path. Now the client will look for executable
in it's installation dir and not by some full path.
* Added 10G link type - Will be added by default only for new installations.
* Torch tool - fixed.
* Added option to run dude client from shortcut in secure mode by adding argument "--secure".
* Corrected 10G link monitoring/counters for ROS devices. (snmp fix for this will come later)
* Fixed issue where dude client would freeze if link label mastering type was snmp
and it was created or modified.
* Ping tool - fixed local pinger.
* Auto discovery tasks are now separated between network maps.
* Fixed file upload to server.

* ROS upgrade function fixed.
ps. Known issue CHR VMs are not yet upgrade-able from dude.

* SMTP authentication and tls options added!

email.jpg

Build will most likely be uploaded just tomorrow morning, as there were issues with build upload to download server.

leocarvalho001 · Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:32 pm

Hello!

I have the same problem related by others.

When adding links, no interface is shown (unknown). dude-install-6.34rc41 still doesn't solve this.

For Mikrotik: could you please release a new rc version with this fixed.

For everybody with the same problem: When was the last post V6 release that had this working? Could you provide me a link for that software (routerOS and The Dude client), as a workaround?

ps.: Currently I monitor via snmp around 300 Cisco switches and routers. The most important issue is the link not showing TX, RX bitrate.

jstump · Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:55 pm

Just installed 6.34rc41 and tried to import my DB (around 600mb) and I'm getting the same time out error as everyone else. I've also fixed settings that were broken and after X amount of minutes, it's reverting to the state when I first logged in. I'm not sure if it's crashing and not saving changes or what is going on... Just a heads up.

Also, not able to connect via hostname. Says it can't resolve even though I know it's valid.

Thanks for bringing the Dude back!

Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:11 am

@leocarvalho001

Check if reading those links a new fixes the problem.

@jstump

On what system do you have that dude server installed?

Also I can confirm problem with dns names in dude loader, it has been reported to dev as bug.

jstump · Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:32 pm

@jstump

On what system do you have that dude server installed?

Also I can confirm problem with dns names in dude loader, it has been reported to dev as bug.

I tried it using Win10/Virtualbox. I think I had an issue with the Virtualbox as routerOS itself was also losing settings, so I switched and am currently running on a CCR1016. I'm still receiving timeouts trying to import the db. After waiting a while, if I try /dude print I'm also getting a timeout error on that as well.

I am able to access now, but have the problem with all my interfaces showing unknown until I clicked reconnect on the router itself. If I go under devices - routerOS, highlight all and click reconnect, it fails. If I go onto the map, double click the device and hit reconnect, it connects...

ALEJANDROgordon · Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:53 am

@jstump

On what system do you have that dude server installed?

Also I can confirm problem with dns names in dude loader, it has been reported to dev as bug.

I tried it using Win10/Virtualbox. I think I had an issue with the Virtualbox as routerOS itself was also losing settings, so I switched and am currently running on a CCR1016. I'm still receiving timeouts trying to import the db. After waiting a while, if I try /dude print I'm also getting a timeout error on that as well.

I am able to access now, but have the problem with all my interfaces showing unknown until I clicked reconnect on the router itself. If I go under devices - routerOS, highlight all and click reconnect, it fails. If I go onto the map, double click the device and hit reconnect, it connects...

i have that problem too. but i have a crazy solution.
if you have problems to import db:
1.- on the dude server /dude set enable=no
2.- /dude import-db file=******* if you recive a error, do nothing, just stay a few minute, 10 or 15minute because the import of db still continue.
3.- /dude set enable=yes
if you have problems to save:
1.- /dude set enable=no
2.-/dude export-db file=********* if you recive a error, do nothing, just stay a few minute, 10 or 15minute because the export of db still continue and this force to save the change.
3.-reboot dude server.
4.-/dude set enable=yes

alexspils · Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:46 pm

For now in dude 4beta3 if device with status down is acked, when it goes up and after some time goes down it will be in acked devices.
May be if device goes down, it is acked and it go up and after some time it go down it must be with status down?

ggorbalan · Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:50 am

I downloaded and uploaded tile and x86 to my 750GL and Grooves, npk doesnt get installed after rebooting
what am i doing wrong?

stmx38 · Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:12 pm

ggorbalan
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Th ... stallation

System requirements for server package

RouterOS:
v6.34rc13 or newer

Hardware:
MikroTik CCR series hardware
RouterOS x86 installations
RouterOS CHR environment

Note: Use of dude server package is not supported on other hardware.

ggorbalan · Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:22 pm

ggorbalan
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Th ... stallation
System requirements for server package

RouterOS:
v6.34rc13 or newer

Hardware:
MikroTik CCR series hardware
RouterOS x86 installations
RouterOS CHR environment

Note: Use of dude server package is not supported on other hardware.

ok. so that means that i need to buy a x86 licence in order to use the new dude ?
I only have grooves, 750gl's, omnitiks ... i dont have any CHR or CCR or X86
can i use any licence from my other gear to install a x86 in a VM ?

Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:08 am

If 1mbit/s will be enough for your dude probes, than you can use CHR to run new dude for free.

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:16 pm

Changes in v6.34rc45 build:

Fixed issues:
* Fixed server crash that some people where experiencing.
* CHR host upgrade fixed.
* DNS name resolving fixed in loader (will however work only after loader is upgraded to rc45)
* Added db vacuuming option
* Added progress indicator to import/export/vacuuming

Known issues:
* Device discovery tool does not work with Agents.

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:37 pm

Regarding snmp issues with our devices, check if you have latest .mib file uploaded in dude server mibs dir.

link:
http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib

Chupaka · Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:37 pm

why those changes are not added to RouterOS changelog?

Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:06 pm

Changes in v6.34rc45 build:

Fixed issues:
* Fixed server crash that some people where experiencing.
* CHR host upgrade fixed.
* DNS name resolving fixed in loader (will however work only after loader is upgraded to rc45)
* Added db vacuuming option
* Added progress indicator to import/export/vacuuming

Known issues:
* Device discovery tool does not work with Agents.

http://download.mikrotik.com/dude-6.34rc45-tile.npk
gives
404 - Not Found

Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:46 pm

@Chupaka

For now I put changes here. At some point they will be included in changelog.

@ste

For some reason dude related packages was not uploaded correctly. It should be corrected soon. If not I'll put separate download link for them here.

Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:21 pm

Vacuum! I am happy of that. Thank you very much for it. I will test as soon as I manage to have running both clients of 4b3 and 6rc on one windows station simultaneously.

leocarvalho001 · Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:11 pm

Regarding my complaints about Dude not creating links correctly, please disregard. The latest rc builds work fine. I haven't test the others yet.

jstump · Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:21 pm

@abis

Problem with link monitoring in cases where ROS is used as mastering type is know to us. Dev has bug report for it. hopefully it will get fixed soon.

Any update on this? I can force them to reconnect to ROS in Dude, but they disconnect some time after again.

kmok1 · Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:22 pm

I used this link:
http://download2.mikrotik.com/routeros/ ... 34rc45.npk

After install, dude server took about 1/2 hour to start.

From all the 6.34rc releases, I noticed that dude has difficulties connecting to objects that have Secure Mode checked.

jstump · Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:40 pm

I used this link:
http://download2.mikrotik.com/routeros/ ... 34rc45.npk

After install, dude server took about 1/2 hour to start.

From all the 6.34rc releases, I noticed that dude has difficulties connecting to objects that have Secure Mode checked.

I can confirm that unselecting Secure Mode fixed the ROS connection issues for me for now.

mars · Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:54 am

can you post a link for the dude server for the x86
thanks

Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:24 pm

@abis

Problem with link monitoring in cases where ROS is used as mastering type is know to us. Dev has bug report for it. hopefully it will get fixed soon.
Any update on this? I can force them to reconnect to ROS in Dude, but they disconnect some time after again.

ROS link mastering type was fixed some builds ago.

Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:14 pm

x86/CHR dude server package.
http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/ ... 34rc45.npk

Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:21 pm

Testing on a CCR1036 it lasts 10 minutes for dude to startup and load it's data from an USB Stick.

Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:30 pm

Testing on a CCR1036 it lasts 10 minutes for dude to startup and load it's data from an USB Stick.

How big is that dude db on usb flash? Have to get something similar and recheck.

jstump · Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:55 pm

@abis

Problem with link monitoring in cases where ROS is used as mastering type is know to us. Dev has bug report for it. hopefully it will get fixed soon.
Any update on this? I can force them to reconnect to ROS in Dude, but they disconnect some time after again.

ROS link mastering type was fixed some builds ago.

Yeah, I mistook this issue for the Secure ROS connections issue. With Secure ROS checked, devices disconnect from Dude and don't show links correctly. Turn off Secure and its fine.

Had an issue with settings not saving, only to realize the flash drive was full. Fixed.

Having lots of crashing issues now. Dude will crash and not start up until I get on the router and do a /dude pr and then it seems to start until next crash.

kmok1 · Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:42 pm

Now the dude client is unable to connect to the server. I see "Error: Connect failed: 10061: No connection could be made becaus..."

maecus · Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:35 pm

Now the dude client is unable to connect to the server. I see "Error: Connect failed: 10061: No connection could be made becaus..."

+1 v6.34rc45

kmok1 · Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:49 pm

After two hours I restarted my dude server, it starts running.

In winbox, I enabled logging for debug, then I see these entries repeatedly in log:

12:43:47 ssh,debug,packet sending string
12:43:47 ssh,debug,packet SSH-2.0-ROSSSH\r
12:43:47 ssh,debug,packet
12:43:47 ssh,debug closing connection: <connection error> ::ffff:xx.xx.xx.xx:49546 (4)

where xx:xx:xx:xx is the IP address of my dude server.

After I disabled "secure mode" for my dude server, I still get these entries. I do have many objects in my network that still have secure mode enabled though.

pospanko · Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:57 pm

Hi!
Does anyone else experience lag problems with new Dude server?
I have 1000 devices in Dude and it's very CPU intensive on CHR. One core goes up to 100% and than Dude client freezes. I'm trying it on Hyper-V VM with 4 cores and enough memory. On that config I was running Windows server with Dude and lots of services without problems.
Refreshing of devices is gone, I must manually click reconnect to get interface data.
Windows or Linux server version would be better. At least until you made Dude multi-threaded.
Another thing is usage of remote database server. Collecting and using lots of data on CCR/CHR storage isn't something I wan't to do. I want database on separate server, backup and multi RouterOS connection to it.
And API of course

kmok1 · Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:29 pm

Lag = yes!

My dude server runs in a Celeron box with a separate HDD for the dude database. It worked well with rc3x. I noticed that the lag start with version rc41. From Tools => Graphing, my CPU graph shows much more intensity after rc41.

Also, memory usage has been all over the place.

CyberTod · Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:59 am

More of a feature request, posting here for lack of a more suitable topic.

On a single device you can add more ip addresses, but the services probe the first ip and this is used to show if the service is up or down. Can we have the probes check all ip addresses and the service is considered up or down depending on a switch so we can choose - 1 ip down - service down (and), all ip down - service down (or).

benjamimgois · Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:50 pm

I have imported a xml file on an old rc build and it worked ok. I just upgraded to 6.34rc45 and tryied to update to my latest xml file and i just got a empty screen now.

I tried to load the old file but i had the same problem. Any help ?

carnivean · Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:20 pm

Is it normal ? Why only one core ?

CyberTod · Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:18 pm

When I updated from 6.34rc45 to 6.34 final after reboot Dude was not working. It was :

[admin@Dude] > dude print  
         enabled: no

I had to do :

dude set enabled=yes

Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:47 pm

6.34 version is released!
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=104317

v6.35rc build topic
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=104395

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