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hap ax3 other antennas

Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:38 am

I've some spare 10dbi antennas, can I use those on my hap ax3? is there anything I need to do/check/know before changing it, I got afraid by the stickers that came with it when I bought it, hence the question.


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Re: hap ax3 other antennas

Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:42 am

The stickers should be warning to not power the radios without antennas connected.
Suitable antennas can be used alright as well as dummy loads (if you are not using wi-fi, as a better be safe than sorry measure if the radio are turned on accidentally).
The final amplifier "expects" a load (impedance, standard antennas have 50 Ohms) if there isn't one the power emitted may "remain" in the IC and overheat it.
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Re: hap ax3 other antennas

Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:39 pm

Got it, I've spare antennas like this one https://www.amazon.com/Superbat-Antenna ... 08X4DYQK7/ but I cannot find the ohms specifications for it

fix: It does say `Impedance 50 Ohm` so I should be able to use it, thank you.
 
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Re: hap ax3 other antennas

Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:37 pm

You should specify the antenna gain to comply with regulations. But to be honest, I wouldn't be to worried about the default antennas...unless you have some sort of problem?
 
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Re: hap ax3 other antennas

Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:30 pm

You should specify the antenna gain to comply with regulations. But to be honest, I wouldn't be to worried about the default antennas...unless you have some sort of problem?
I wouldn't be preoccupied of emitting too much signal, the stated range on the Amazon page is:
Maximum Range 7.7 Inches
that would be what, -117dB? :wink: :lol:
The linked to antenna is declared as 8 db gain, this (seemingly identical) one:
https://www.amazon.com/Repeater-Wireles ... B08RHKTZ9X
has no stated Range but is declared as 10 dB gain.
 
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Re: hap ax3 other antennas

Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:40 pm

Seems like that changing it helped it went from 400Mbits to ~720Mbits if I'm close to the router, but I'm going to do more tests.
 
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Re: hap ax3 other antennas

Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:12 pm

Yep, the factory ones should be 5.5dB, so 8 or 10 is anyway a big improvement (though you should make sure you are not going above allowed emissions by your local norms).

Since the transmission is two-way, when you use a high gain antenna you might be able to actually lower emissions below the max allowed and still have better connection.
 
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Re: hap ax3 other antennas

Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:35 pm

Okay now you have me thinking perhaps repace my AX3s with these bad boys.
https://www.amazon.ca/Portable-Antenna- ... C72&sr=8-7
 
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Re: hap ax3 other antennas

Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:11 pm

You can also get the 12 dB version of the same model as the OP on aliexpress:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832727365570.html

dB's are thrown around like they were peanuts, no wait, maybe there are different definitions of dB :shock: ...

I would really like to see these actually tested and rated according to "our" dB's.

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