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DeDMorozzzz

Hello cube pro has a 5 Ghz backup link just use it when you need it

DeDMorozzzz

Perhaps 66960 is a more efficient frequency

66960 is not more efficient it has less atmosphere signal loss. Oxigen makes signal hard to pass bellow 66960

DeDMorozzzz

The maximum throughput of Cube 60G ac devices (500 meters) is significantly higher at frequencies 58320, 60480 and 62640 MHz

Are you shure about that? nRay works muuuuuuch better at 66960. Cube should be the same

DeDMorozzzz

My longest link with cube60pro ac is 1287.21 m
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Hi. What frequantcy is that? 66960?

DeDMorozzzz

Your is another one, don't be rude: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=203686 The question I asked you, which you obviously didn't answer, probably because it was uncomfortable for you, is useful. Sorry i din't want to be rude to anyone it's a misunderstanding. My network core is ROS6 becou...

DeDMorozzzz

distant upgrade No matter the productor of the device, a distant update CAN fail, so upgrade CAN go worse... Always keep the car engine running... you might leave... Ask yourself a question: Do you really need v7 on those working devices instead of 6.49.12? Every upgrade may fail lets not produce &...

DeDMorozzzz

So now there is no way to do a distant upgrade in ROS7?
I have remotely upgraded LDF5 and it's wireless interface diaspeared (solved by netinstalling ROS6 latest version)
Do 802.11ad also lose 60Ghz interface?

DeDMorozzzz

Thank you guys

DeDMorozzzz

Quite a long time ago forum appearance have changed to this "blue-looking-skin"
If I logged out, the forum has its old appearence, but if i log in, than this blue comes out
Cant find where is the switch to fix it

DeDMorozzzz

Hello you need to netinstall it

DeDMorozzzz

To be more accurate, the initiator is the only one that can classify it solved. ( choose the most appropriate post and there is a green mark with a checkbox in the upper right hand corner and when you hover over states something like ' accept this answer' Thank you, not all forums are the same or i...

DeDMorozzzz

this topic should be marked as solved.

It really should.
Should I mark in anyway, or it's a moderator's job?

DeDMorozzzz

put the full config here, maybe someone will modificate that Do you mean export-compact, or graphical scheme? I haven't carefully read the links provided by guys above yet, but at least I'm going to compare CPU-usage of EoIP and VLAN. VLAN- overhead is low, it's not a proprietary. Thank you for bei...

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Don't you think, that my goal of all that is a good way of improving network quality? O-B-V-I-O-U-S-L-Y but on you parts VLANs can be used, and also you can use EoIP (or other tunnel type) just in the part where is not usable the VLAN. Thank you, I guess you are right. I'll study the links above to...

DeDMorozzzz

So the general idea to "smooth" the "flaky" internal links by using some tunneling? The tunneling is for PPPoE but also it does network segmentation as a side-effect The question for all - Don't you think, that my goal of all that is a good way of improving network quality? I'm ...

DeDMorozzzz

wlan try to retransmit "full frame" packet till 7 times, on default, but regardless it's L2 or L3+ content.
It's hardware retry (note: it's hardware, not L2 or L3+).

Thank you I didn't know that

DeDMorozzzz

Ok, but that is not true.
In IP networks, the network layer (L3) is datagram. There is no re-transmission at L3.
There can only be re-transmission at L4, or in some link layers at L2.

L3 IP is a datagram? So were packets are?

DeDMorozzzz

You seem to think that with L3 there will be re-transmission across a different path but that isn't any more the case than with L2. No mi opinion is Lets think of it as row of devises A-B-C-D-E A- is a PPPoE-server, B,C and D are wireless devises E- is a mikrotik wireless-CPE I think that with L3, ...

DeDMorozzzz

EoIP will not retransmit packets! A lost packet is simply not delivered, it is up to the endpoint to transmit it again.

but if the network is L3 (based on OSPF), than means the endpoint is just the AP\Bridge point isn't it?

DeDMorozzzz

@DeDMorozzzz Why you do not use VLAN instead of EoIP (not knowing why you use EoIP, this a legit question) If you use VLAN, you do not have to do any on MTU, just set on VLAN the MTU of 1508 and can transparently support pppoe with 1500 MTU... VLAN use 4 byte on L2 MTU + 8 extra for PPPoE, usually ...

DeDMorozzzz

I still don't understand the use case for setting MTU to 2000. 1512, that I can understand. Or maybe 1600 as a "set and forget" case for all common encapsulations. But I would not know any encapsulation protocol that has 500 bytes of overhead and requires MTU 2000 to transport the de-fact...

DeDMorozzzz

As already written here: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=993942#p993639 You can't go to 1500 inside pppoe, unless your ISP allows you to. Regardless of the settings you can set on the device, if the provider doesn't allow you an MTU of 1500, you can't have it. Sure, you can handwrite 150...

DeDMorozzzz

Thank you all for answering. DarkNate, at least 50% of total "Thanking" goes to you. mkx, I'm talking about a mostly wireless network. I'm dealing with PPPoE over EoIP planning to use OSPF to add L3-bonuses into WLan. Maybe use MPLS\VPLS but not sure about that. The way I see it now - deal...

DeDMorozzzz

Can you please explain again what your question is and what answer you are expecting? Because even after re-reading it, that is not at all clear to me. Default MTU is 1500. That is not going to change. But when you want 2000, you can set that. Why is that not OK for you? The point is - Why calculat...

DeDMorozzzz

You're in the "Beginner Basics" forum. And no "beginner" should be messing with MTU. Defaults are fine. I think you should learn to write your questions more clearly – you'd get better answers. No need to be rude. You are sooooo funny trying to look important and advanced That i...

DeDMorozzzz

DarkNate thank you
Everyone else - get lost please

DeDMorozzzz

I'm not going to change any outgoing interface mtu, IT IS MENTIONED THA T: 1 All devices support enlarged MTU (All are mikrotik) 2 MTU's that are going to be changed ARE INSIDE of the controlled network the question was - "why not just change MTU INSIDE THE NETWORK" to avoid possible probl...

DeDMorozzzz

Industry standard MTU is 1500. When you want something else, you will have to configure it. +10k (Without considering that, if you don't configure the internal network correctly, you will create nothing but outgoing problems...) What problems, I wander?) I have an EoIP links for PPPoE, sometimes ov...

DeDMorozzzz

Hello Why setting maximum supported MTU is not used as a default setup? I'm talking only about my own network, not regarding connection to any other networks, to avoid MTU problem that occurs in case of using vlan\Vxlan\EoIP\VPN? Considering, that all devises of a subject-network support enlarged MT...

DeDMorozzzz

We're seeing the exact same thing with all 60ghz mikrotik products. hot garbage, do not buy, return if you can. No reply what so ever from Mikrotik with issues.

we are seeing that 60GHz is great

DeDMorozzzz

CRS has a really slow CPU
I don't think you can use it for an OSPF network or any CPU-based tasks

DeDMorozzzz

Do not use Cube-SA as it's mentioned above. WAP60G also does not understand with CubePRO clients. So what to use as a sector? What manufacture at that cost? Do not use Cube-SA as it's mentioned above. Not in this price range, but at least it will work. sirbryan says that WAP60G works fine with cube...

DeDMorozzzz

The farthest I have gone with MikroTik 60GHz radios is 800m (LHG to Cube). A pair of Cube Pros might work on 66960 around the 1km mark, but I haven't tried that. I'd consider something larger with higher frequencies if you need more than 1km. nRay would be a good bet between 1-2km. I have deployed ...

DeDMorozzzz

Are you working on a repair or should we choose another 60Ghz multipoint manufacturer?

What manufacture at that cost? Do not use Cube-SA as it's mentioned above.

DeDMorozzzz

Thanks for answering! I was thinking about max distance during perfect clear line of sight conditions, is it 2.4km as they promote them? I accept decrease in performance due to weather (failing over to 5Ghz). Is it still max 6-700m in 60Ghz? /Patricio Try to use 66960 As far as I Know, cube pro sup...

DeDMorozzzz

Hello does it support 66960Mhz?
Try to use it.

DeDMorozzzz

Hello once again
Is there an analog of Cacti's "spikekill", or any other way to cut this gaps off?

DeDMorozzzz

Hello Gentlemen, maybe 1-2 ladies I'm running a CHR on a VM, the CHR is a Dude-server. The PC that hosts all that WM\CHR stuff acts as a Dude-client. As far as I know the PC-Dude server is outdated, and it is not recommended to run Dude-server on CCR. so I use CHR In case of shutting down the VMware...

DeDMorozzzz

I changed it to

/system ssh-exec 192.168.1.34 "reboot"

An authentication is missing/ I think you should also add login\password of UBNT device.

DeDMorozzzz

Wi-Fi is not for long ranges. You and other hotspot clients will suffer a hidden node problem. If you are going to do it anyway, use SXT2\5. Connect it to your laptop via wire. use a software-AP on the laptop to connect a phone

DeDMorozzzz

is problem solved @normis or sombody from mikrotik ?
All ARM devices have some problems.
Mipsbe,mmips,tile are better product and very stable

ALL 60 GHz devices have this problem. It is not an ARM-thing

DeDMorozzzz

My biggest gripe is MikroTik has done NOTHING in actually educating the community on the ins and outs of their 60ghz products, nor how to use them properly

Totally agree with that

DeDMorozzzz

Also it may be an beam-forming problem. Client tries to find a better sector and looses connection. Set it manual maybe it will help
Mikrotik 60 Ghz devices are great
thank you guys
your Siberian fan

DeDMorozzzz

This "flapping" happens not only with AY devices, AD devices also have such problem, but please read logs, drops are usually a second or less, you hardly mention that.
Don't forget it's not an TDMA protocol, it might have a hidden node problem, or other 802.11/FDMA issues

DeDMorozzzz

hello. As you asked "without any advanced" 60Ghz links will always drop in heavy rain, or if a dish is covered with snow. If you need 100% link, add a 5Ghz antenna to back it up (LHG60G can work at longer distance, but adjustment is rather advanced) Your antennas is a very narrow beam, but...

DeDMorozzzz

Will we ever get a decent MU-MIMO and OFDMA? New standards are just broader channels and more chains to show more numbers on the paper. 4-8-16 chains give a lot of throughput but have anyone seen a wireless client with more than 2*2 MIMO? I hardly believe that one can't find a free 5GHz channel indo...

DeDMorozzzz

Of course, we are working on all kinds of new and exciting AX devices. Hello. What is about outdoor devices? Any tests soon? Anyway I thing the time will come. Are you planning to use a standard 802.11AX driver, or it will be another NStream version? 802.11AX Should solve the "Hidden node"...

DeDMorozzzz

As far as I get that MU-MIMO doesn't really need any beamforming. You get it wrong. Go and study what's MIMO and what's the MU part. And what is the point of talking about LTE in this thread? Fake technologies I'm talking about LTE in this thread because both technologies that are supposed to make ...

DeDMorozzzz

OFDMA is the easier part and doesn't bring much in case there are few concurrently active clients of same WiFi AP ... and the big difference will be mostly slightly better RTT with lower delay jitter ... the difference between OFDM and OFDMA is that the later can service multiple clients at the exa...

DeDMorozzzz

All this is great but are there any proofs that ODFMA and MU-MIMO really work?
As far as I know non of vendors make this dreams come true though this are the main changes of AX generation
AC have promised MU-MIMO but steal it's only dreams
So what is the real difference between AC\AX without that?

DeDMorozzzz

Hello. First of all you should use scan mode to find clear channel. This is the most important. What is your current resoult and signal strength?

DeDMorozzzz

You need L4 licence to run an AP mode

DeDMorozzzz

Hello
You do not need to use bonding, just use bridge and set RSTP correctly

DeDMorozzzz

Guys
802.11 AD and AY are not TDMA protocols. Maybe thats why it flaps...
a hidden node

DeDMorozzzz

The same is happening with old 802.11AD devices I think its a driver issue

DeDMorozzzz

It's as if you can't read or don't understand what I've written.

my mistake

DeDMorozzzz

The 60GHz have various channels limited for each country. Canada is the best coun... (anav???...) Canada is the country with less power limits and more channels. You can put on same pole 4 devices as AP, with different channel eachone, and you can reach 32 clients on 60° 32 clients? Doesn't it supp...

DeDMorozzzz

Does CubeSA supports 66960Mhz?

DeDMorozzzz

The very first check what could be wrong is to check if syntax is correct. How? Look at the screenshot. It's enogh to "print" the script and it is showed where the problem is. I have RoS 7.5beta on that device but it works also for 6.x line of ROS. a3.PNG Thank you very much. It seems to ...

DeDMorozzzz

Various soluctions already exist, just search. For example: Save RouterBOARD full backup of everything [configuration, certificates, host key, router users (no passwords), licence, user-manager, dude, other files] https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=175360&p=858564#p858564 thank ...

DeDMorozzzz

This is an example of a (VERY RAW) script I use for quick and dirty sending of backup.
(I'm sure rex will have plenty of comments on it, but it works ! )

Thank you you have solved my problem.

DeDMorozzzz

so you can look for it in the script around the same place.
/system script run <script name>

Ive got this resoult
[admin@Main] /system/script> run backup_to_email
expected end of command (line 23 column 40)

DeDMorozzzz

Hello
thank you for the answer.
This script was found in the net and is used as it is
Thank you for pointing at the email problem.
I know nothing about scripting and how to fix it
The problem is that sistem doesn't even makes a backup files

DeDMorozzzz

Hello a week ago I have upgraded v6 to v7.4 after that the script stopt working { :log info "Starting Backup Script..."; :local sysname [/system identity get name]; :local sysver [/system package get system version]; :log info "Flushing DNS cache..."; /ip dns cache flush; :delay ...

DeDMorozzzz

What AX technologyes does it support? is there RU-division? UL\DL MU-MIMO?

DeDMorozzzz

Does anybody knows center sector of Cube Lite60?

As far as i know there are four in the centre. try 36

DeDMorozzzz

https://fccid.io/TV7CB5A60/Test-Report/ ... Hz-4838729
Is it an error, or this devace has it's secrets?

DeDMorozzzz

Hello
never had such a problem, but if you want an auto-reboot use watchdog to reboot it automaticaly

DeDMorozzzz

ROS 6.48.2 Hello. I'm trying to implement some QOS in a small wisp network. I use ppp/profile/script to add a dinamic simple queue. The first problem is When i do ppp/profile/script /queue simple add limit-at=10M/10M max-limit=30M/30M name=($user."-All") packet-marks=All parent=Main queue=...

DeDMorozzzz

Hello.
Try another channel. It looks like the one you are using is occupied
also you have bad signal. one chain is realy low. Chek pigtails

DeDMorozzzz

While investigating, I found some interesting lines in the defconf genarator config in the latest firmware. :set ($outArray->"w$cardNext") { "chains"=$chains; "isAc"=$isAc; "isN"=$isN; "isAd"=$isAd; "isAy"=$isAy; "isAx"=$isAx; &q...

DeDMorozzzz

Good day, Gentlemen. I'm new to the "OSPF/MPLS/VPLS" fild but I have some mikrotik experience. I have a "test-part" of a wireles network. It used to be a switched network and PPPoE type of connection. Now its OSPF/MPLS/VPLS and still runs PPPoE. CPU-usage is OK. But I have a band...

DeDMorozzzz

Hello guys
Does that happens to all Mikrotik AC devises or only ARM-based ones?

inteq what hardware do you use?

DeDMorozzzz

UP please

DeDMorozzzz

802.11 AD has a limitation of 8 clients, its not the mikrotik feature

DeDMorozzzz

Hello It worked for me. The client uses the address now. But when i try to enter his device using winbox i see my mikrotik server. What is the problem?

DeDMorozzzz

*) winbox - allow setting MCS (24-31) to 4x4 Wireless interfaces;

A step to AX?

DeDMorozzzz

Why do you whait fir ay so much? it will be more expencive doesn't 1 gb enough?) Just make cheap ad working with 71Ghz (or just up to 69) allso 1Ghz channel (option) would be nice - more PtMP stations per AP (15 instead of 8) - mesh network with GPS sync, all running on one channel Yes 1Gb is enoug...

DeDMorozzzz

Why do you whait fir ay so much? it will be more expencive doesn't 1 gb enough?) Just make cheap ad working with 71Ghz (or just up to 69) allso 1Ghz channel (option) would be nice

DeDMorozzzz

802.11ad works worse in cold weather not becouse it is freezing. Cold air becomes more dense and amount of oxigen per squere mitter increases.

DeDMorozzzz

this will be available on new 802.11ay hardware. Unfortunately this cannot be used reliably on our existing 802.11ad devices - that is why this frequency support is removed When do you plan to lunch ay? I have a good test link 66960 1750m long and it works fine with 385mb\s. Its not that fast as ex...

DeDMorozzzz

Just have updated to 6.48.3
66960 is still in the list, but I can't set it up.
winbox says that this interface doesn't support it. the same in in client's scan-list
there will be no 66960 and upper frequencies?

DeDMorozzzz

Please check whether extended frequencies are available on RBLHG-60AD (MIPSBE). Thanx. It's works on every 60Ghz devices. One link works for week+ Data rates and signal are less then 64800, but it works fine. I wonder is this signal\data rates degradation is a software problem, or hardware doesn't ...

DeDMorozzzz

will higher frequencies be added in the future than on ubnt? can I expect half the width of the channel?

+1
Will the 1GHz channel make connection more stable? At least it will move the min. frequency from the oxigen absorbation.
Expecting for higher frequency

DeDMorozzzz

2 mistry7
Why does it have to take 2 years? We don't need Mikrotik's NV2\3\4 anymore, OFDMA can solve hidden node problem, isn't it? We only need cheap firmware and Mikrotik's ROS, to use it as a standart 802.11AX.
correct me, if im not right.

DeDMorozzzz

Hi. any news on that metter? I'd like to mark the whole traffic to a certain user (not the separate connections) is there a way to do that?

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