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by MonkeyDan
Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:09 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: MikroTik News December 2018 (Issue #86)
Replies: 25
Views: 8478

Re: MikroTik News December 2018 (Issue #86)

LOVE the solidMOUNT. Especially for Wireless Wire dishes!
by MonkeyDan
Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:31 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60Ghz WAP60G-AP multi-client latency
Replies: 3
Views: 608

Re: 60Ghz WAP60G-AP multi-client latency

6.44beta28 makes significant latency/jitter improvements. Thanks Mikrotik :)
And speed improvements. Especially fixing an issue with having more than 3 stations connected.
We’re eagerly awaiting a stable release for mass deployment.
by MonkeyDan
Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:27 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: LHG 60G experience
Replies: 542
Views: 58580

Re: LHG 60G experience

Just an FYI, the bandwidth test tool doesn't max out the capacity of the link. For a full-speed test use the traffic generator.
by MonkeyDan
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:51 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: LHG 60G disable beam forming [SOLVED]
Replies: 31
Views: 5191

Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming [SOLVED]

Thanks so much Dan.
Where did you find the info about the sectors?
Trial-and-error; observing the monitor output while moving antennas around.
by MonkeyDan
Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:20 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: LHG 60G disable beam forming [SOLVED]
Replies: 31
Views: 5191

Re: LHG 60G disable beam forming [SOLVED]

So what's the chance of some decent documentation on this Mikrotik? We're all wasting a lot of time searching the wiki, forums and google :( Any know exactly do to disable beamforming? NTB https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Interface/W60G#General_interface_properties tx-sector is an 8x8 grid of ...
by MonkeyDan
Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: General
Topic: Jailbreak for RouterOS 6.43.2 released [SOLVED]
Replies: 16
Views: 2856

Re: Jailbreak for RouterOS 6.43.2 released [SOLVED]

I wish there were an official way to do this rather than relying on tools that potentially cause issues or stop working in the future. Installing wireguard for example or proper openvpn with UDP support would be so useful.
Agreed!
Give us root!
by MonkeyDan
Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:52 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: LHG 60G experience
Replies: 542
Views: 58580

Re: LHG 60G experience

Interesting experiences. I have some test kit going up soon which is by Google mapping 2.63Km clear LOS tower to tower. I'm not expecting full PHY rates but am wondering what it will reach and how any rain will affect the link. My hope is that it folds back and doesn't go off completely. Mikrotik i...
by MonkeyDan
Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:56 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: LHG 60G experience
Replies: 542
Views: 58580

Re: LHG 60G experience

Pretty annoying actually, not even the station displays ANY sort of signal, MCS rates, PHY, NOTHING all is blank, with the latest RC! How has nobody seen this yet??
The testing branch is in beta these days, not RC.
I recommend 6.42.9 for production deployment.
by MonkeyDan
Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:54 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42.9 [long-term] is released!
Replies: 119
Views: 25169

Re: v6.42.9 [long-term] is released!

For Wireless Wires, v6.42.9 is a vast improvement over v6.42.5 through v6.42.7 and v6.43.x which seems to exhibit the same problems of repeated disconnections.
Good work, Mikrotik!
by MonkeyDan
Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:50 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Minimum distance for RBLHGG-60adkit
Replies: 6
Views: 490

Re: Minimum distance for RBLHGG-60adkit

I must ask, did your company deploy the 400 Wireless Wire radios all as Point to Point links (the way they’re marketed), or are you using them as PtMP wireless bridge subscriber units. It's a mix of mostly point-to-point and some multipoint with no more than 3 per AP. We're in a dense urban area an...
by MonkeyDan
Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:47 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Minimum distance for RBLHGG-60adkit
Replies: 6
Views: 490

Re: Minimum distance for RBLHGG-60adkit

I recommend using the original Wireless Wire kit at that distance: https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire Thanks MonkeyDan. By the way I see you only have 41 posts (39 more than me). Do you work for MikroTik? Or what experience do you have with these units to base your recommendation on? As the...
by MonkeyDan
Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Minimum distance for RBLHGG-60adkit
Replies: 6
Views: 490

Re: Minimum distance for RBLHGG-60adkit

Can someone tell me the minimum required distance between the 2 units for this wireless link? I need to create a high speed wireless link between 2 buildings that are less than 100 ft (30 meters) apart. However, the buildings are large enough that we could position the antennas as far as 500 ft (15...
by MonkeyDan
Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:43 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60ghz readings
Replies: 8
Views: 1521

Re: 60ghz readings

Going to bump this up. We have aligned several to "center" and best RSSI as possible. We are still getting link downs on the wireless radios. We have several on 6.42.7 and 6.43 and see the same issues. Some of these are less than 50M, we are also seeing this on a LHGG-60ad pair that is on 6.43 at l...
by MonkeyDan
Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:47 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Wireless Wire MCS direction?
Replies: 6
Views: 595

Re: Wireless Wire MCS direction?

It should as it is standardized. Check this table . But which direction? Transmit or receive? Both. If parties don't agree about MCS, connection fails. So RX side can report correct MCS as well. Even though it's TDD, MCS can be different for TX and RX. One example why this can happen is interferenc...
by MonkeyDan
Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:31 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Wireless Wire MCS direction?
Replies: 6
Views: 595

Re: Wireless Wire MCS direction?

It should as it is standardized. Check this table.
But which direction? Transmit or receive?
by MonkeyDan
Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:30 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Wireless Wire MCS direction?
Replies: 6
Views: 595

Wireless Wire MCS direction?

Does the MCS reading on Wireless Wires reflect TX or RX modulation?
by MonkeyDan
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:23 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.43.1 [stable] and v6.43.2 [stable] are released!
Replies: 186
Views: 37609

Re: v6.43.1 [stable] is released!

Still having issues with multipoint Wireless Wires. Connections take forever to stabilize after first boot. They reconnect constantly during this time which seems to have gotten longer with this release. Took 30 minutes for the links to stop flapping on 6.43.1
by MonkeyDan
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.44beta [testing] is released!
Replies: 365
Views: 81038

Re: v6.44beta [testing] is released!

seems this release gave us a wireless channel 66000 on w60g interface. Nice! Be aware this overlaps with 64800: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Gigabit_Alliance#Channels Also, it appears this isn’t in the default frequency list for station mode: https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Interfac...
by MonkeyDan
Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:30 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: SXTsq Lite60
Replies: 9
Views: 1265

Re: SXTsq Lite60

At 100% utilization, sure, but that’s usually not the case. Even with overhead, a single station on a quiet 8-station wAP 60G should (hopefully?) see 1 Gbps half duplex.
Still, with the latest firmware, the original Wireless Wire goes pretty far. Anything further than 150m we’ll keep using the dish.
by MonkeyDan
Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: SXTsq Lite60
Replies: 9
Views: 1265

SXTsq Lite60

Saw this announcement and got excited: A (cheaper) radio that fills the awkward gap between 100m and 200m on a multipoint Wirless Wire AP where a dish feels like overkill.
But... it only has a 100 Mbps port. :shock:
I know it’s cheaper, but not having a gig port is a major bummer :(
by MonkeyDan
Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:36 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60ghz readings
Replies: 8
Views: 1521

Re: 60ghz readings

I too look for guidance.
Wiki was recently updated to say “'tx-sector-info' based alignment currently is in testing stage.” so I don’t know what to do.
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Interface/W60G
by MonkeyDan
Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:13 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Wireless Wire beyond MCS 8?
Replies: 0
Views: 353

Wireless Wire beyond MCS 8?

Brought up a Wireless Wire Dish pair today and one side came up at MCS 11! Until today I've never seen anything above 8 Is this a fluke, or is it possible for Wireless Wires to operate even faster? (gig-e port aside) This would be nice to have on a wAP 60g AP with multiple stations; could help with ...
by MonkeyDan
Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:07 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60Ghz Wireless Wire Dish kits?
Replies: 1
Views: 380

Re: 60Ghz Wireless Wire Dish kits?

I'm in the USA. Are these legal to use here? Will U.S. distributors have them soon? Searches on eBay or Amazon seem to only turn-up overseas sellers. If I buy a kit of two, can I add a third unit? Imagine I have two buildings I'd like to connect to a main office building. The two buildings are sepa...
by MonkeyDan
Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:50 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42.7 [current] is released!
Replies: 159
Views: 29896

Re: v6.42.7 [current] is released!

That's for WiFi. WiGig changes are under w60, which yes, they said they were fixed, but I've seen plenty of current and rc releases where that wasn't the case. I decided to gave 6.42.7 a go on a 2 station multipoint setup, and while the links flapped for 10 minutes, they've been stable ever since. H...
by MonkeyDan
Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42.7 [current] is released!
Replies: 159
Views: 29896

Re: v6.42.7 [current] is released!

Does this really fix multipoint Wireless Wire disconnects? I’m reluctant to try as rc56 still had issues.
by MonkeyDan
Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:02 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: WIRELESS WIRE more clients on the AP
Replies: 4
Views: 605

Re: WIRELESS WIRE more clients on the AP

On multipoint we do best-effort residential with a soft promise of 100 Mbps. Haven’t done any throttling yet as we like to offer as much bandwidth as possible as long as no one abuses it.
by MonkeyDan
Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:54 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: WIRELESS WIRE more clients on the AP
Replies: 4
Views: 605

Re: WIRELESS WIRE more clients on the AP

Curious if you’ve added 8 people to an AP and what the performance is like? We’ve only done 4 but are afraid to add more due to overhead.
by MonkeyDan
Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:29 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!
Replies: 557
Views: 109956

Re: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!

Still seeing multipoint Wireless Wire disconnects with 6.43rc56. I don't think the RC branch has been stable on these since rc17 :(
6.42.3 continues to be my recommended version.
by MonkeyDan
Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:13 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Wireless Wire 60 Ghz Kit Signal Strength Fluctuations?
Replies: 5
Views: 1268

Re: Wireless Wire 60 Ghz Kit Signal Strength Fluctuations?

I wish Mikrotik would publish a detailed guide for aligning the LHG60G, along with instructions for how to interpret the link values.
Me too. We still feel like we’re flying blind with these.
Most if the time they work wonderfully, but when they don’t, we don’t know how to troubleshoot.
by MonkeyDan
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:34 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: LHG 60G experience
Replies: 542
Views: 58580

Re: LHG 60G experience

rc51 seems OK (so far) for point-to-point. Still seeing a lot of disconnects on multipoint. :( 6.42.3 continues to be my favorite firmware for these radios. FYI 6.43rc51: *) w60g - added distance measurement feature; *) w60g - fixed random disconnects; *) w60g - improved MCS rate detection process; ...
by MonkeyDan
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:33 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!
Replies: 557
Views: 109956

Re: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!

rc51 seems better on point-to-point Wireless Wires (fixed dropping issues in 6.42.6)
But we're still seeing a lot of disconnects with multipoint.
by MonkeyDan
Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:42 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: LHG 60G experience
Replies: 542
Views: 58580

Re: LHG 60G experience

We’re sticking with 6.42.3. We never tried 6.42.4 before we tried 6.42.5 and .6, but .4 should be OK as the only w60g change was “improved RAM memoy allocation processes”
by MonkeyDan
Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:13 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Wireless Wire 60 Ghz Kit Signal Strength Fluctuations?
Replies: 5
Views: 1268

Re: Wireless Wire 60 Ghz Kit Signal Strength Fluctuations?

I’ve never seen a signal quality of 100. 80 seems to be the norm, with the occasional link coming up at 95 if it’s a close shot. In your case, 235m is really close for dishes designed to go 1800m. Try lowering the tx-power on both sides. Start with 10 and see how low you can go for the most stable l...
by MonkeyDan
Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:22 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!
Replies: 557
Views: 109956

Re: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!

Does rc23 fix the w60g issues seen in rc19 and rc21?
by MonkeyDan
Thu May 31, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: w60g bridge vs ap-bridge performance issues
Replies: 2
Views: 660

Re: w60g bridge vs ap-bridge performance issues

Please downgrade to 6.43rc17, fixes for this will be available soon
Thanks. We noticed a lot of client flapping with rc19 and rc21. Reverting to rc17 stabilizes things.
Looking forward to distance measurements and RSSI in SNMP making a return.
by MonkeyDan
Fri May 25, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: wAP 60G experience
Replies: 279
Views: 35901

Re: wAP 60G experience

And 6.43rc17 has vastly improved one of our longer links (~170m)
Waiting for a final release to upgrade to the rest.
what FW was before upgrade to 43rc17 ?
6.42.1
by MonkeyDan
Fri May 25, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: wAP 60G experience
Replies: 279
Views: 35901

Re: wAP 60G experience

@MonkeyDan
What software are you using for the grath visualization?
rrdtool https://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/
Specifically a Perl script to do an snmpwalk and write the values to an RRD which can be graphed with rrdgraph.
by MonkeyDan
Thu May 24, 2018 11:29 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: wAP 60G experience
Replies: 279
Views: 35901

Re: wAP 60G experience

And 6.43rc17 has vastly improved one of our longer links (~170m)
Waiting for a final release to upgrade to the rest.
by MonkeyDan
Wed May 23, 2018 7:09 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!
Replies: 557
Views: 109956

Re: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!

*) w60g - added 4th 802.11ad channel (CLI only);
*) w60g - general stability and performance improvements;
*) w60g - improved maximal achievable distance;
*) w60g - removed distance lock for wAP 60G devices;
Love it! Wireless Wire keeps getting better.
What's "distance lock" though?
by MonkeyDan
Mon May 21, 2018 8:46 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: wAP 60G experience
Replies: 279
Views: 35901

Re: wAP 60G experience

I had the same problem with a ~30m link. New firmware was just too hot. Lowering tx-power to 10 on both sides helped tremendously Try to switch used frequency to 58320 and upgrade to 6.42.1 why should I change freq? It seems to work quite good with rc52. there is no noise or other 60ghz link visible...
by MonkeyDan
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:40 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!
Replies: 557
Views: 109956

Re: v6.43rc [release candidate] is released!

+1 for having as much info as possible available via SNMP. In the meantime, you find the PHY rate from MCS using this table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Gigabit_Alliance#Single-carrier_and_Control-PHY_data_rates Can the phy-rate and RSSI for 60G interfaces also be exposed over SNMP please...
by MonkeyDan
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: LHG 60G experience
Replies: 542
Views: 58580

Re: LHG 60G experience

That's awesome! Love the PHY rate and alignment info. How does it handle the rain?
by MonkeyDan
Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:21 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for 60 GHz solutions
Replies: 44
Views: 14913

Re: Significant improvement for 60 GHz solutions

Just a heads up, I had an issue with 6.42rc56 on a multipoint (ap-bridge) AP. Interfaces weren't showing up and the station wasn't connecting. I switched to bridge mode and everything worked again. Really digging the rssi and tx-sector-info, but I don't think it's ready for ap-bridge mode yet.
by MonkeyDan
Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:54 am
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: MUM Europe 2018 - New hardware incoming
Replies: 52
Views: 17107

Re: MUM Europe 2018 - New hardware incoming

+1 on pricing and availability.
CRS305-1G-4S+IN is definitely a weird one, but I have some ideas if it's cheap enough.
by MonkeyDan
Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:51 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for 60 GHz solutions
Replies: 44
Views: 14913

Re: Significant improvement for 60 GHz solutions

I installed rc49 on a few of our >100m links (PtP and PtMP) and neither MCS or Signal Quality have changed. Throughput seems better, though, as running a traffic generator over our longest link (160m?) nets a solid 500Mbps full-duplex with little fluctuation. Used to be all over the place. Seeing a ...
by MonkeyDan
Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Wireless Wire free Multi-point upgrade for AP feature
Replies: 21
Views: 9861

Re: Wireless Wire free Multi-point upgrade for AP feature

Is this promotion over? I've sent a couple of requests in the last week and haven't gotten a response. Usually we get them in less than 24 hours.
by MonkeyDan
Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:48 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: RBwAPG-60ad Real World Use and Feedback [SOLVED]
Replies: 11
Views: 2372

Re: RBwAPG-60ad Real World Use and Feedback [SOLVED]

We have nearly 40 pairs deployed, and as long as you keep it under 100m you'll see 960+ full-duplex.
by MonkeyDan
Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:37 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: LHG 60ad approved by FCC
Replies: 1
Views: 741

LHG 60ad approved by FCC

by MonkeyDan
Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:21 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience
Replies: 33
Views: 11287

Re: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience

We've deployed nearly 40 point-to-point pairs and things have been flawless. Reliability and performance is better than all other multipoint WiGig-based products we've tried, and at a fraction of the price. We've also deployed a multipoint AP with 4 stations. Reliability is still solid, but latency ...
by MonkeyDan
Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:03 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Wireless Wire WAP 60G P2MP Beam forming _
Replies: 17
Views: 2850

Re: Wireless Wire WAP 60G P2MP Beam forming _

Awesome!
Don't tell anyone yet, but (Just kidding):

Next week, we plan to announce a free Level4 (AP mode) upgrade to all Wireless Wire users, so you can use the PtM functionality before we release dedicated AP models for 60GHz.
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