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by sandman
Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:19 pm
Forum: General
Topic: RB1000 or RB493AH?
Replies: 9
Views: 2125

Re: RB1000 or RB493AH?

I'm not sure if your PC based router is a single CPU/single core processor or multi cpu/multi-core, but you should try running on a single processor/core by specifying multi-cpu = no. It fixed my random reboot/freezes I was having on my new PowerEdge SC1420's running version 3.17. I'm only able to u...
by sandman
Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:28 am
Forum: General
Topic: Opening Winbox Interfaces = High CPU
Replies: 5
Views: 1093

Re: Opening Winbox Interfaces = High CPU

And a side note, opening other windows in Winbox, such as queues, firewalls, mangle, etc, which seem to gather a lot of info (40 mangle rules, and 16 queue trees), doesn't seem to cause much CPU increase. Maybe a few percent at most. However when you open Interface in Winbox, the CPU usage goes up a...
by sandman
Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:24 am
Forum: General
Topic: Opening Winbox Interfaces = High CPU
Replies: 5
Views: 1093

Re: Opening Winbox Interfaces = High CPU

sandman, just to confirm you are looking at the CPU number, and not the little green bar graph on the top right of winbox right ? Yes, under System and Resources. It's given in percent. I never pay attention to the green bar, it doesn't seem to change much. Since my original post, I've turned Multi...
by sandman
Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:48 am
Forum: General
Topic: Opening Winbox Interfaces = High CPU
Replies: 5
Views: 1093

Re: Opening Winbox Interfaces = High CPU

Am I the only one that sees this in version 3.17? Maybe other 3.x versions have same issue, but I only have 2.9.50 and 3.17 running on X86 machines.

It may not be a bug or hardware problem, I just want to confirm that's the way it should behave.
by sandman
Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:32 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Core Router Hardware
Replies: 62
Views: 15214

Re: Core Router Hardware

Even though they are hardware based RAID, they still require drivers to communcate with the RAID hardware. That's why you have to load RAID driver at the very beginning of Windows setup, if you plan to install to a hardware based RAID array. Those drivers would need to be loaded and supported by Mik...
by sandman
Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:47 am
Forum: General
Topic: PCQ limit & total limit settings
Replies: 36
Views: 44475

Re: PCQ limit & total limit settings

I understand that PCQ Limit sets how many packets each dynamic queue can hold. The default is 50, so each dynamic queue created can hold up to 50 packets before dropping new packets. What affect (good and bad) does adjsuting the PCQ Limit Up or Down have? I understand it uses more memmory if you inc...
by sandman
Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:29 am
Forum: General
Topic: Max number of users per PCQ Queue?
Replies: 33
Views: 4751

Re: Max number of users per PCQ Queue?

if memory is not a factor, then increase your limit =) I prefer greater values, less drops Memory is not a factor on this router (2 gigs of RAM). 50 is the default value for limit. Increasing it decreases drops, but doesn't that also increase latency in the network, when PCQ is actually queueing? I...
by sandman
Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Per User Bandwidth Limiting
Replies: 1
Views: 1016

Re: Per User Bandwidth Limiting

I believe a Mikrotik router placed between your Cisco switches and your edge router would do what you want. I believe you would need a PCQ Queue for each subnet. You would use Queue Tree for the limiting. If you want each user in a subnet to have access to the full amount of bandwidth you assign to ...
by sandman
Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:52 am
Forum: General
Topic: Max number of users per PCQ Queue?
Replies: 33
Views: 4751

Max number of users per PCQ Queue?

I'm working on switching my 600+ simple queues to PCQ queues using Queue Tree. I have one PCQ queue that will have about 400 different users in it and even more in the future. I set it to Rate: 512k Limit: 50 and Total Limit: 20000. If I understand the PCQ examples correctly, that should be OK for u...
by sandman
Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:11 am
Forum: General
Topic: Opening Winbox Interfaces = High CPU
Replies: 5
Views: 1093

Opening Winbox Interfaces = High CPU

I have 2 identical x86 Dell Power Edge SC1425 servers with Dual Xeon 3.4ghz processors, 30gig Solid State SATA drive, 2 built in Gigabyte NICs, and 1 RB44GV (4 port gigabyte card). Both running fresh install of RouterOS 3.17. With NO traffic (other then my winbox session), I open System/Resources. I...
by sandman
Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:52 pm
Forum: General
Topic: PCQ limit & total limit settings
Replies: 36
Views: 44475

Re: PCQ limit & total limit settings

You shouldn't have to attend a training seminar to understand PCQ or other parts of Mikrotik RouterOS. Better documentation is all that is needed. But for whatever reason, Mikrotik would rather charge you for a training seminor and not answer your questions.....
by sandman
Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:16 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Does Queue processing (QoS, PCQ, HTB, etc.) depend on ISP?!!
Replies: 38
Views: 21749

Re: Does Queue processing (QoS, PCQ, HTB, etc.) depend on ISP?!!

I agree Mikrotik isn't designed for novices, they sure could improve their documentation, and provide more real world examples. Better explanation of features and setting. Some documentation using Winbox for the examples, in addition to command line would help the un-experienced users, I think. I'm ...
by sandman
Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:00 am
Forum: General
Topic: Which package in 3.17? routing or routing-test
Replies: 3
Views: 800

Re: Which package in 3.17? routing or routing-test

OK, where can I find a "change log" or "comparision" for each of the -test package, so I can determine if I need the -test package or not?
by sandman
Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:12 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Which package in 3.17? routing or routing-test
Replies: 3
Views: 800

Which package in 3.17? routing or routing-test

OK, so I kind of figured out what the different packages do in RouterOS, but I'm unclear on what packages I should be using. Should I be using routing or routing-test. I assume routing-test is maybe beta testing new features or is it part of the current feature set and required to get latest functio...
by sandman
Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:40 am
Forum: General
Topic: RB1000 or RB493AH?
Replies: 9
Views: 2125

Re: RB1000 or RB493AH?

sandman, why do you want to do that? PC is still much more powerfull. I decided to NOT use a routerboard for my core router. I ordered a couple DELL PowerEdge servers, with dual 3.4ghz xeon processors. Going to put a SATA flash drive in them and a 4 port RB44GV PCI card. When I'm done, I should hav...
by sandman
Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:49 pm
Forum: General
Topic: P2P Limiting pretty much useless on MT now...
Replies: 28
Views: 6634

Re: P2P Limiting pretty much useless on MT now...

Has there been any improvements to P2P detection in version 3.x from version 2.x of router os?
by sandman
Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Bursting with PCQ
Replies: 1
Views: 544

Bursting with PCQ

I don't suppose there is anyway to do bursting with PCQ type queues?
by sandman
Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:28 pm
Forum: General
Topic: RB1000 or RB493AH?
Replies: 9
Views: 2125

Re: RB1000 or RB493AH?

If you will optimize your 700 simple queues to <15 PCQ queue - it should be fine.
Another thing with PCQ, there seems to be a problem with them, as you probably know.

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=27250

Although there may be a fix in the works.
by sandman
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:52 pm
Forum: General
Topic: RB1000 or RB493AH?
Replies: 9
Views: 2125

Re: RB1000 or RB493AH?

If you will optimize your 700 simple queues to <15 PCQ queue - it should be fine. I like the idea of PCQ and have looked at them some. One thing I hate to loose is the ability to quickly look at who is using our bandwidth. With everyone having their own simple queue it's really nice for troubleshoo...
by sandman
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:23 am
Forum: General
Topic: RB1000 or RB493AH?
Replies: 9
Views: 2125

RB1000 or RB493AH?

I'm wanting to upgrade to V3.X of MT. I have an existing 2ghz AMD based router with 2.9.50 running. It's my core router and handles 500-600 simple queues, and about a dozen mangle and firewall rules. I run about 20mbs max through it. CPU is normally 10 to 20%. My question is do you think a RB493AH w...
by sandman
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:18 am
Forum: General
Topic: High CPU with Simple Queues
Replies: 3
Views: 801

High CPU with Simple Queues

I currently run over 500 simple queues on a 2ghz AMD based machine with MT 2.9.50. It does good running around 10%-20% cpu. Running about 20mbs of data through it max. I was thinking of moving to a RB493AH based router with 3.16 installed. After putting about half the simple queues in with NO other ...
by sandman
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:11 am
Forum: General
Topic: Simple queues set to ALL interface or specific Interface?
Replies: 1
Views: 514

Simple queues set to ALL interface or specific Interface?

I'm wondering if Simple Queues should be set to ALL Interfaces or should they be set to a specific Interface? I've tested with them set to all and set to ether2 "going to my wireless network" and it worked both ways. It seems they should be set to a specific Interface to reduce the amount of process...
by sandman
Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:15 am
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

firebat is exactly right on in explainging what I'm seeing.

I'm running version 2.9.42 and I configure the simple queues in Winbox.
by sandman
Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:25 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

Why does adding a simple queue to the END of the chain with a target address of 0.0.0.0/0 or simply no target address seem to shape ALL traffic, INCLUDING traffic that is targeted by IP in the chain above it? I'm wanting to create a simple queue at the end of the chain that shapes everything to 56k ...
by sandman
Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:19 am
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

firebat: I specified the full subnets for the traffic I want to catch if not shapped by one of the simple queues above it in the chain. For instance I added 40 or so simple queues with a single IP address of 192.168.100.X and at the END of the chain added a simple queue with a target address of 192....
by sandman
Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:38 am
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

I now have simple queues working as I think they should. However I tried to add some queue trees using Mangle marked packets to shape overall bandwidth per subnet and they are not working. The firewall mangle rules show packets are being marked, but when applied in Queue Shape 0 packets are shapped....
by sandman
Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:52 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

GREAT! I will try the catch all at the end of the simple queue chain then. Please tell me how Simple Queues and Queue Trees work together. I plan to use simple queues to control each users bandwidth by IP address. I plan to use Queue Trees to control each access points total bandwidth and use pcq fo...
by sandman
Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:15 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

I understand that the simple queues are checked in a specified order (by queue number).
So to clearify this. In simple queues once a match is found, it no longer continues down the chain?

If that's the case, that's exactly what I want to do.
Can someone confirm this for me?
by sandman
Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:14 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Something weird with Beta 7 / Winbox Simple Queues
Replies: 0
Views: 1107

Something weird with Beta 7 / Winbox Simple Queues

When I put a simple queue in using Winbox, it puts random /subnet on it. I can even specify xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/32 and it will put something else like /30. When I put it in using /32 using the command line, it shows up as xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx-255.255.255.255 as the target address in winbox simple queue. Is t...
by sandman
Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Simpler, easier to use and good documented and good support!
Replies: 11
Views: 2515

I TOTALLY AGREE! Mikrotik RouterOS seems to have a lot going for it, but good documentation is not one of their strong points. A little of this may be lost in translation, as it appears many different languages attemp to use RouterOS. I too just spent 3 WHOLE days of my life learning the basics and ...
by sandman
Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

skillful After reading your example config again, I understand how that will work, but the problem is, I'm using Mangle to mark complete /24 subnets of each access point for queue tree pcq shapping of each access point as a whole. For your example to work, I would have to setup an access-list and sp...
by sandman
Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:11 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

Here's some other people trying to do what I'm describing. These threads are dated, but it seems what I'm trying to do may not be possible with Mikrotik? It's very easy to do with StarOS qshape. I'm surprised if this is the case. Anyone with any answers? http://forum.mikrotik.com//viewtopic.php?t=66...
by sandman
Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:33 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

I'm not having much luck with this. I tried your suggestions, but I couldn't get it to work. Here's what I need to do, maybe someone can suggest how to do do it. I statically assign IP's to customers. We do not use DHCP. Each Access Point is in it's own subnet. With different customer speeds mixed t...
by sandman
Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:27 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Upgrading to Beta 7 not working for me?
Replies: 3
Views: 1497

Never mind answered my own question. The Microsoft FTP program must have not uploaded it right. It was listed and showed to be good in the Files section of Mikrotik router, but wouldn't upgrade. I deleted and re-uploaded using Filzila and it upgraded this time.
by sandman
Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:45 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Upgrading to Beta 7 not working for me?
Replies: 3
Views: 1497

Upgrading to Beta 7 not working for me?

I have a PC running RouterOS Version 3.0 Beta 6. I've never upgraded RouterOS before. I downloaded the new Version 3.0 Beta 7 from here: http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html I followed the directions for upgrading from here: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Upgrading_RouterOS The package file shows up...
by sandman
Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:09 am
Forum: General
Topic: Simple Queue Catch All
Replies: 20
Views: 4101

Simple Queue Catch All

Is it possible to create a "catch-all" type simple queue that when no other queue above it catches the traffic, it does and then shapes it to say 56k?
by sandman
Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:33 am
Forum: General
Topic: QUEUES while using NAT?
Replies: 4
Views: 1893

QUEUES while using NAT?

I'm having trouble getting queues to work as expected on our new X86 based router running 3.0 beta 6 The outbound Ethernet port is hooked to a DSL Modem, and is configured for PPPoE. We are using srcNAT to NAT the private Internal IP's to Public IP's on the outgoing ethernet port The Internal subnet...