MikroTik

santyx32

~300mbps is good for Mikrotik WiFi, if you need something faster there are other vendors out there with more innovative technologies like WiFi 6 and 4x4 UL/DL MU-MIMO as well as OFDMA.

santyx32

a cheap Belkin RT3200 and flashed it with OpenWrt. is not the competitor of the upcoming MikroTik cAP ax which will use IPQ60xx chipset. Current low cost competitors with the same chipset family nowadays would be: - Engenius EWS357AP - Grandstream GWN7660 Both can be purchased for < 100$ Yep, I tes...

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Later I will unscrew board from enclosure and see if its IPQ-4018 or IPQ 4019-based.

Even if ROS says IPQ4019 on board you should have an IPQ4018 according to the official specs, I have opened my hAP ac2 and it's an IPQ4018.

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Due to the lack of WiFi 6 products from Mikrotik, I bought a cheap Belkin RT3200 and flashed it with OpenWrt. It's a big upgrade from my Mikrotik hAP ac2, now I have proper WiFi and better coverage at home (higher spatial diversity due to 4x4 MU-MIMO). I haven't performed iperf3 benchmarks yet but m...

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What went wrong? Which limitation did appear?

Prolly RAM limitation, ath10k requires 256MB RAM for two radios for proper functionality.

OpenWrt barely runs on these units with a patch to reduce ath10k-ct RAM consumption but it's not usable for anything else than basic router/AP functionality.

santyx32

hAP ac2 has the same wireless chip as the ac3. Most likely it's excluded from the compatibility list because of it's 16MB of storage.

Storage is not an issue but RAM is, Qualcomm ath10k requires 256MB of RAM for two radios.

santyx32

I don't have gigabit internet at home but I think this unit can handle CAKE queues at full gigabit speeds because of its Cortex A72 processor.

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KERNAL panic after 3 days on rc2. ccr2004. no i won't log a ticket

First it's kernel and not kernal, second you need to create a supout file and send it to Mikrotik support email in order to properly report a bug.

santyx32

I guess it'll never be implemented cause they're now focused on wifiwave2 drivers for their new devices.

santyx32

not yet ... this is not a new product but still is so poor features ... simple snmp is missing as well ...

Damn, that's as bad as consumer grade routers BUT at least you get proper WiFi from it.

santyx32

ROS7 is the star citizen of networking.

santyx32

Very reasoned post Chechito, much thanks! (or muchas grassy ass as I would say to my mother and then she would scold me and I would reply hoder (how dare) you speak to me like that)!

Jajajajaja

santyx32

well we can close this. RB4011 will go to market. since 70 days i have Qnap QHora-301W where wifi6 is working fine. there is mega limited options and firmware is poor but all is working fine + 2 10GB ports.

Does it has QoS options? Just noticed Qnap went into networking industry.

santyx32

Or prehaps I should check with the seller...

Better talk with seller if the unit it's still on warranty.

santyx32

Thanks, just updated from internal 7.1rc2 release. No problems with my hAP ac2 and simple queues with CAKE.

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The simplest solution will be a slimmed down build with wifiwave2 built-in and "unnecessary" features for an AP/home router removed to save storage.

Of course it'll only be compatible with 256MB RAM devices such as the Chateau LTE12.

santyx32

Wow, Mikrotik is back to game. We just need WiFi 6 hardware to complement.

santyx32

None answered so far, for 256MB RAM devices, loading the wave2 package on arm32 (hap ac2) will work if external flash is connected to router?
ROS 7 packages are tied 100% to internal NAND only?

You can give it a try since my hAP ac2 only has 128MB RAM

santyx32

Still, idk why MikroTik bring device with quadcore proc + 256MB of RAM but only 16MB NAND shipped...

Even worse shipping ath10k devices with only 128MB RAM and then excluding those from the new WiFi drivers.

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I've never had luck with CAKE autorate-ingress even with OpenWrt, it's better to just set a fixed max limit based on 85-90% of your real speeds.

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It's all academic now as the Chateau has given up the ghost. Completely dead. I tried a new power adapter but nothing

Have you had luck with Mikrotik RMA process if the Chateau it's still on warranty?

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If you go to "WebFig>Wireless>Wifi Interfaces tab" do you have entries for "wlan1" & "wlan2"? If you don't then your 2.4ghz mini PCIe module may be bad or loose. There is just this, so you might be right. Screen-2021-08-29_20-43-03.jpg Can you open the enclosure an...

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And can we get the "ingress" keyword ? It's useful

AFAIK the ingress keyword only works when CAKE is both the qdisc and the shaper such as in OpenWrt, when using ROS simple queues or queue trees the shaper is HTB with your qdisc attached to it.

santyx32

hi. maby anybody have a wave2 rc2 for arm32? Thank you.

Send an email to Mikrotik support.

santyx32

Well. I tried 7.1 out of desperation. No improvement. I get 300Mbps+ from client to Audience on the ipq4019 with zero tweaking but at most 200Mbps between Audiences that are a few metres apart on QCA9984 radio which should be capable of much more. Wish I kept all the boxes now.. these haven't been ...

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My hAP ac2 can be updated just fine to any ROS version, I only need Netinstall when coming back from OpenWrt.

Currently it's running the 7.1 rc2 firmware provided by Mikrotik support through email.
do u have 128 mb?

Yes, only the first batches came with 256MB RAM.

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anyone who successfuly updated hAP ac2 118mb edition? i always ended up with brick with any beta version. any netinstall version, but beta recovers it luckily. My hAP ac2 can be updated just fine to any ROS version, I only need Netinstall when coming back from OpenWrt. Currently it's running the 7....

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They should have waited to have production ready wifiwave2 compatible with Capsman and released cAP AX instead.

As a side note, wifiwave2 package already contains firmware files for IPQ5018, IPQ6018 and IPQ8074 which are all WiFi 6 SoCs from Qualcomm.

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So people that get RC2 early will have to update to RC2? There will be two different RC2 floating around with the same version number? Are you sure you are making sense? I guess so, as a software developer you can release RC2 with build number 107 for internal testing and then re-release RC2 with b...

santyx32

Mikrotik support kindly helped me with the download link of ROS 7.1 rc2, can confirm that CAKE simple queues no longer crash my hAP ac2.

Good job MT

santyx32

By the way, there's AX option in the wireless band settings of wifiwave2 interfaces. Does this mean that we will see WiFi 6 devices from Mikrotik soon? Maybe a wireless version of RB5009?

I hope so

santyx32

Audience is crashing regularly- like every 10-20h.
No support file created weirdly.
Changed to persist logs so will update you soon.
RB4011 is ok however.

Are you using the wifiwave2 drivers nor CAKE/fq_codel/CoDel queues in your Audience?

santyx32

Hi, since we don't have access to internal shell.
Could you set simple or queue tree with cake/fq_codel scheduler and share output from this command?
Code: Select all
tc qdisc list
tc filter list
tc class list

I'm also interested to know how ROS handles qdiscs internally from the Linux perspective.

santyx32

No way, beta software can be okay for your home network but not for production usage.

santyx32

What if you try FastTrack winbox packets, will they avoid queue and maybe fix the issue until proper fix is done?

Maybe it can do the trick but the simple queue setup I described some posts above it's working great for me.

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This might sound bizarre, but anyone experiencing kernel crashes with cake/fq_codel, can you confirm the router is stable if there is no active WinBox session to the device? We currently think the crashes are caused by WinBox management session shaping. I had the Mikrotik Android app open on my pho...

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Looks like CAKE doesn't cause a kernel panic if the target of your simple queue is an IP address instead of an interface, I setup mine like this where vlan999 is my WAN and 192.168.88.0/24 my LAN. (notice that leaving the destination empty will throttle your LAN speeds which is really bad) /queue t...

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hAP ac3 DIY edition

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Looks like CAKE doesn't cause a kernel panic if the target of your simple queue is an IP address instead of an interface, I setup mine like this where vlan999 is my WAN and 192.168.88.0/24 my LAN. (notice that leaving the destination empty will throttle your LAN speeds which is really bad) /queue ty...

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Wave 2 on audience can't do vlan tagging. srsly.....

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I would like to request a separate wifiwave2 package for IPQ4018/IPQ4019 devices with 16MB of ROM and 128M of RAM. With such a package a lot of more users could test this it, send feedbacks and bug reports which will result in an earlier available bugfree stable release. I don't think that would ha...

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If I were in your situation I'd go for a RB5009UG and enterprise grade 4X4 WiFi 6 access points from another vendor. The switch on the RB5009UG is wired to a 10GB/s CPU port (shared with SFP) vs the 2.5GB/s CPU port on the RB4011 (SFP has a dedicated 10GB/s port). This means that even if you're maxi...

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Are you all using WinBox under Wine too? Mention the OS for WinBox bugs please.

Mikrotik employees use Winbox from their MacBooks using Wine.

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And to the people wondering: yes, Cake is still broken and causes a kernel panic.

I hope MT can fix it on RC2 or at least before moving 7.1 from development to testing channel.

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If i plug my tplink router to the ftth box, it just works.. and if i connect the mikrotik HAP to the tplink router, I can get internet through the wireless network ... I'm so confused now..

As @mkx said try to factory reset your Mikrotik and reconfigure it.

santyx32

Are you sure that your FTTH box doesn't requires VLAN tagging or MAC Address cloning?

My ISP's HUAWEI EG8145V5 ONT when set on true bridge mode requires tagging VLAN 999 on Ether1 to get internet connection from it.

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If I could caps-man it from my hAP AC2... i would give it a try but from what i understand... WiFi5 MU-MIMO is supported in ROS7 which does NOT work with caps-man??? No, the wave2 drivers with MU-MIMO are not compatible with either the hAP AC2 or the Cap AC because those are 128MB RAM devices and w...

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ROS 7.1 moving to testing channel on August 23th?

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If you guys need fast Mikrotik WiFi just get a device like hAP ac3 or the Audience which are compatible with the new wave 2 drivers (which are actually developed by Qualcomm). However I'm waiting for their WiFi 6 lineup to replace my hAP ac2 at home since I've got new WiFi 6 capable devices. I know ...

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You need to set the target to whatever your WAN interface is (usually ether1 or vlan999 in my case as ISP requires VLAN tagging to get IP from them) instead of 192.168.88.0/24. Doing that will actually limit your LAN speed which is a bad practice. After you set your target to eth1 the speeds will be...

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If you're not using it on a production environment you can try 7.1 beta 6 and install the new wifiwave2 package, it provides new optimized drivers for your device.

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A quick iPerf3 LAN - 5GHz WLAN benchmark of my hAP AC2 running OpenWrt RC4 with irqbalance. Host: Linux laptop connected through Cat 5e Client: Xiaomi X3 Pro Channel: 52 (DFS) @ 80MHz This is far better than anything else the stock RouterOS can offer when it comes to WiFi performance. I guess the wi...

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Default CAKE and fq_codel should work quite well against bufferbloat however setting bucket size on DL/UL to 0.001 makes them way more effective.

santyx32

looks like a major defeat for mikrotik. some guy makes cap-ac compatible with openwrt - and wifi performance outperforms factory firmware. well played. The real problem is that Mikrotik launched IPQ401X devices with only 128MB of RAM to then realize propietary Qualcomm drivers require 256MB of RAM ...

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Had to return to OpenWrt, can't withstand unreliable WiFi from ROS and is too much time consuming to fine tune it. OpenWrt WiFi just works fast and reliable out of the box without having to tinker with it.

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EDIT: after almost a day of uptime the router went into a kernel panic and rebooted itself, will try fq_codel to check if it also reboots. I follow this thread and from what I read, codel panics too, but takes a little longer for some... looking forward to see how it goes on v7.1beta7 So far I have...

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Mikrotik WiFi it's not the best but considering how cheap the regular AC2 is as a wired router you can add a WiFi 6 EAP620 HD TPLINK AP to your setup.

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After a year of using OpenWrt on my 16/128MB hAP ac2 I went back to ROS 7.1 beta 6 to check how has it evolved. So far I'm really impressed with the CAKE implementation, it's much better than OpenWrt's after some fine tuning since ROS distributes IRQs across the 4 cores in a more efficient manner th...

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FYI hAP ac2 just got official OpenWRT support, this milestone opens the possibility of supporting more Mikrotik IPQ40XX devices such as cAP ac and hAP ac3 in the future.

https://firmware-selector.openwrt.org/? ... ik_hap-ac2

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Hi guys, it seems to be a good performance for a 2.4Ghz WiFi. If need fly faster you should buy a RB with 5Ghz antenna. By other hand the default WiFi config it's not working well for me. I'm just getting 10Mbps on 2.4 WiFi. Really bad!! Limiting AMSDU to 2048 I get a non stable improvement on perf...

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I must say that I find openwrt very interesting. I'd like to run with wpa3 on my CAPs and MT have not committed to any new features. I'm sure they will do something, eventually though. IPQ401X devices with less than 256MB RAM are now "legacy" for the eyes of MT, I don't think they can add...

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What about OpenWrt? What throughput do you get with 2.4GHz or 5.0Ghz with 20, 40 or 80 MHz channels? Have you tried "irqbalance" and enabled it by adding /usr/sbin/irqbalance to /etc/rc.local to improve throughput on your (was it cAP ac or hAP ac2)? Well I haven't tested with iperf recent...

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If you need Mikrotik WiFi wait for AX lineup, current Mikrotik devices will be unable to run the newest and greatest WiFi drivers when ROS 7 stable gets released condemning them to legacy drivers because it requires at least 256mb of RAM.

Otherwise go with another vendor.

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No, only OpenWrt afaik

santyx32

Wave 2 cannot be supported on MEMORY deprived devices PERIOD. If you are hoping and praying that its possible you are dreaming in vivid color. :-)

On OpenWrt it's supported xD

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On RB4011, after boot following error in the log: error while running customized default configuration script: expected end of command (line 1310 column 53) Only thing I did is create 5Ghz Wifi radio as it is described in the Wiki: /interface wifiwave2 add disabled=no mac-address=B6:64:D4:AB:29:13 ...

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!) added new experimental wireless package "wifiwave2" for ARM devices with more than 256 MB of RAM (CLI only); If you unpack the new wireless package you´ll see that there are many components which do not all belong to IPQ40xx chipset, so 16MB of ROM should be sufficient some day when th...

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At least we have OpenWrt to provide Wave2 drivers + WPA3 on our hAP ac2s, btw kudos to Mikrotik for hearing user requests and implementing modern queue management algorithms on ROS.

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They added ondemand CPU scheduler as default on newer betas, although I prefer to run my ac2 at 716mhz which it's the stock max clock for better latencies.

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I'm an ISP shaping traffic at the core.

Finally an ISP that cares about providing low bufferbloat to its customers, kudos to you :D

santyx32

+1, this would help potential US consumers

santyx32

+1 for fq_codel or cake

:D

santyx32

Looks like Mikrotik knows how to treat their employees, other companies would have rushed to push V7 into production as soon as possible.

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Linux on my laptop also has builtin WPA3 support for my QCA61x4a card where Windows 10 requires the user to install a driver from a shady website, ROS feels like ancient technology man.

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-1 as older clients won't connect
Provide airtime fairness Feature instead as it will improve overall performance.

I have some old Android 2.3 phone that can connect without problems on WPA2/WPA3 Mixed mode

santyx32

+1 :D

santyx32

+1 WPA3 Personal (not sure about Enterprise) can be implemented through software, no performance impact.

PD: I use it on OpenWrt

santyx32

I cant install current frmwre to hAP lite "smips".
no space! =(

Export your config and netinstall :(

santyx32

I faced same issue , installed Mikrotik HAP AC2 in room 1 , room 2 , with one wall in between and 8 m away, no signal. Opened the box , relatively easy to open, found the two antenna connections , fitted external antenna from an older router and yes ! 100 mbps at the router , thats the provider spe...

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The hAP ac2 it's very stable, the only problem it's WiFi being slower than other brands AC1200 AP/Routers.

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PD: I know I can just enjoy my OpenWRT powered ac2 and leave this forum but advanced routing features (like VLANs) are more polished on ROS.
We really need to get hAP ac2 into official OpenWrt branch...

I don't know embedded device programming :(

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According to the dev who helped to port OpenWRT (Robimarko) to the hAP ac2 and other IPQ4018 Mikrotik products they're using QCA drivers but their AP implementation it's not standard compliant and lacks the wave 2 feature set One posting later it says: It´s hard to believe, but MikroTik really writ...

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According to the dev who helped to port OpenWRT (Robimarko) to the hAP ac2 and other IPQ4018 Mikrotik products they're using QCA drivers but their AP implementation it's not standard compliant and lacks the wave 2 feature set. https://forum.openwrt.org/t/can-open-source-drivers-ever-be-as-good-as-pr...

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As a home user I request the following to Mikrotik:

Proper WiFi 5 Wave2 support for IPQ40XX and QCA9984 chipsets along with new WiFi 6/6E hardware.

Fq_codel queue type to be available on ROS.

santyx32

Can I downgrade to this from 6.47 without losing the config?

Yes, make a backup to feel more comfortable anyways

santyx32

My laptop WiFi card doesn't supports monitor mode on Windows 10, I used Winfi app to gather some data from my hAP ac2 running OpenWRT HT: Maximum Rx A-MPDU Length: 0x03 (65536[Bytes]) HT Max A-MSDU length: 7935 bytes VHT: Maximum MPDU Length: 11 454 (0x02) Max A-MPDU Length Exponent: 1 048 575 (0x07...

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security@mikrotik.com be like

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downgrade V7.1 beta2 impossible to downgrade Mikrotik chateau LTE12 stable version 6.47.3 no working Need help

The device was launched with 7.X out of the box, you can't go lower than that

santyx32

That's the advantage of RouterOS, you can make an AP work as a router and vice versa

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I also had to reset my password, my previous password was also autogenerated by a password manager.

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Yep. So what's new or better?

Probably migrated the forum to new hardware

santyx32

The forum it's working again, good job!

santyx32

I don't think so considering Mikrotik never released an update to take full advantage of IPQ40XX hardware with features like MU-MIMO, beamforming or airtime fairness.

santyx32

Sometimes I think Normis and 3-5 other guys are the entire Mikrotik workforce

santyx32

The best Mikrotik AP as far as technical specs go it's the Audience due to its triple band design but IDK how stable the software is.

santyx32

The ac3 it's just a hAP ac2 with LTE modem, you can grab the ac2 for the less money and additional ac2s to use them as wired APs if you need more coverage.

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If Mikrotik creates a new development branch called wireless-testing with propietary QCA drivers and deprecate the existing ROS WiFi implementation there wouldn't be that much problems with Mikrotik WiFi. I know it will take time and several releases to get Mikrotik stuff like Capsman working with t...

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I think beamforming (the explicit/standard 802.11ac one) is more important than MU-MIMO because it focuses the signal to clients and thus they can negotiate better data rates with the AP. Although MU-MIMO can help on a four chain radio (like the RB4011 or the Audience) with several devices using the...

santyx32

The ac2 is a very powerful router but it doesn't has the fastest WiFi, for 80mbps should be good but you need more than a single unit unless you have a small area to cover

santyx32

Hey just a general question here. Can someone from MikroTik's support tell me why MikroTik's products are not certified by the WiFi Alliance at all, at least as far as I can tell? Manufacturers need to pay the WiFi Alliance to get certified, aside from that ROS WiFi implementation it's lacking some...

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It would be fun to install other brands APs in front of Mikrotik headquarters

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As in these day's is difficult to sell router without wifi support, so I guess, that Mikrotik added wifi support as kind of for the name only and it's there as it is and that's it. New Mikrotik products are all IPQ40XX based which has a built-in WiFi chip so they can just attach the antennas and vo...

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@santyx32 Have you done some iperf benchmarks with openwrt on your hAP ac2? E.g. 5 GHz, 5180@80MHz, clear spectrum - with one single client connected with link rate of 866MHz - with one old client e.g. 802.11a/g connected at a lower rate and one 802.11ac client connected at maximum rate; one test w...

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Send the supout file to Mikrotik team when the slowdown occurs so they can make a fix

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Hi guys Ii have an RB 4011iGS. I have a pair of of MikroTik cAPac s connected by Cat 6a cable to the 4011. All three devices are running the latest release Rb 6.4.7.2. The cAPsc are managed by the 4011 using CAPs Man. My home internet service is a steady 150 Mbps. All devices that are connected to ...

santyx32

OpenVPN should be dropped in v7, make room for something more useful.

MT should go back to the modular package system so you can remove the features you don't need (OpenVPN in this case)

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With Cake I get rid of lag (dslreports A+ wired and A+/A over 5ghz) by limiting my 75mbps connection to 72mbps, Mikrotik queues requires me to sacrifice way more bandwidth (~10mbps) to get an A result on dslreports. I guess this is caused by the ancient SFQ qdisc being a round robbin algorithm and s...

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Setting AMSDU? We don't know how RouterOS implemented 802.11ac. So true What happens if you set 2048 for 802.11ac ? Are we tweaking irrelevant parameters? 8192 is the max value in Mikrotik wiki for AMSDU. From my experience (using a hAP ac2 with ROS as a home router) some clients will easily lose s...

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Use 2048 AMSDU

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Got WPA3 personal working
P.S. It would be great to get hAP ac2 into official OpenWrt repository

When the Routerboot problem gets addressed without the need of an U-Boot copy, I also hope it happens soon.

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Existing ath10k hardware like the IPQ401X or the QCA9984 are compatible with the WPA3 standard through software updates. Ubiquiti has already enabled it on testing releases for Unifi APs and OpenWRT is also supporting it. I'm running my hAP ac2 with OpenWRT and WPA3 is working correctly with old and...

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Got WPA3 personal working with latest master OpenWRT source plus hAP ac2 support patches, will test reliability for a day before publishing it.

PD: Currently I only have one WPA3 client (Samsung S10e) but WPA2 clients are also working normally.

santyx32

We also need some Dropbox/Seafile functionality on the router.
What we REALLY need is some KVM virtualization, in order to run W10 and Crysis.

Priorities people, priorities.

Can't wait to play Crysis Remastered on the CCR screen

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Here's my 100/50 Mbps: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/65353338.png What's wrong with bufferbloat? Congrats, your ISP is probably doing an excellent QoS job so bufferbloat is not a problem for you Those are my results without SQM http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/65344794.png Edit: I tested w...

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It's just Mikrotik not willing to implement modern queuing techniques on ROS, here's an speedtest of my hAP AC2 running piece of CAKE on OpenWRT firmware it just got rid of bufferbloat in a few clicks http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/65345812.png PD: I have 75/75mbps fiber but I limited it to 720...

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There's no need to run a torrent client on a networking device

santyx32

+1 but still needs a modern/smarter queuing disc like CAKE or fq_codel to keep latency low with different kinds of traffic not just TCP Edit: I don't think we need BBR, TCP congestion control algorithms can do very little to improve the user experience and the overall network quality. SQM gives bet...

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Check if network mode is set to mixed and the network is using a channel that the device can recognize.
Where can I find this setting?

Wifi interface name > Wireless, toggle advanced mode

santyx32

MikroTik does supply rocksolid WiFi solutions.

Only when using third party OS on MT hardware, otherwise no

santyx32

Any update in wireless? Still waiting for something? We are waiting for the usual stuff: 1. airtime fairness improvvements (http://blog.cerowrt.org/post/real_results/, https://forum.openwrt.org/t/aql-and-the-ath10k-is-lovely/59002) 2. MU-MIMO 3. 802.11 k/v/r ... For sure we'll get those features on...

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Maybe some users use them to build a toy lab, but usually they will be running only system and wireless, maybe advanced-tools.
But MPLS, BGP, OSPF, IPsec, Hotspot... REALLY?

Agreed, maybe MT can make v7 lite and v7 full buillds

santyx32

Finally Wireguard

santyx32

do you guys know if band steering will be awalible in ros 7?

Thanks

Band steering is more complex than making SSIDs the same, the AP needs to gather information from the environment and the client capabilities/signal to redirect clients to each band.

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This firmware will also be ported to the cAP ac when the devs figure out a way to boot OpenWRT without a stripped down copy of U-Boot. A recent openWRT built for hAP ac2 seems to work on cAP ac, too Nice, btw they use almost the same hardware internally but Mikrotik has changed how the calibration ...

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I can see the AMSDU option in normal wireless conf, but could not find it in caps conf. My 5GHz channels are totally empty, no congested channel at all. I think AMSDU is not configurable on Capsman mode but it's hardcoded to a lower value than the default 8192 Before posting this, I have done some ...

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running ROS for a couple of years in an Apple only network (IOS/IPadOS/OSX) using 10 pc of hAP AC (RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT) and max 250 wireless devices. Everything works fine, no problems. Could you please post your 5GHz settings, omitting the SSID and Security part? I am currently having my iPad conn...

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Also it seems like development have really slowed down over the summer. It's been over a month since last release of anything...

I've heard TILERA architecture was slowing down ROS development cycle since it got deprecated from the mainline Linux kernel.

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There is no solution to this problem. Mikrotik devices are not certified by the Wi-Fi alliance.

The alternative will be to use OpenWRT if it's supported by your device nor buying from another brand.

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If someone has an AC2 you're better running OpenWRT, it works out of the box with all kinds of WiFi clients unlike ROS. Just a fair warning for anyone considering to try this: Flashing OpenWRT to NAND flash will wipe ROS license from the device and replace bootloader, so it will not be possible to ...

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Too funny! Are any of these changes possible via software, and does the new linux kernel in the upcoming RouterOS 7 allow for that? No, they require a new driver. Btw OpenWRT for the hAP ac2 already has MU-MIMO, MU-Beamforming, airtime fairness (AQL), 802.11r and 802.11k/v (those two require advanc...

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Check if network mode is set to mixed and the network is using a channel that the device can recognize.

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Mikrotik ROS doesn't plays well with interference like other vendors specially on 2.4ghz, your alternative maybe to go with another vendor nor update to 5ghz. Btw those are really underpowered equipment which may not be capable of handling too much simultaneous users.

santyx32

You can give OpenWRT a try, they use better WiFi drivers than Mikrotik. Don't expect an increase on raw performance benchmarks but daily usage gets massively improved with it.

https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/mikrotik ... hnt_hap_ac

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If someone has an AC2 you're better running OpenWRT, it works out of the box with all kinds of WiFi clients unlike ROS.

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hAP ac2 is the most versatile networking product I've used, as a repeater the speed will depend a lot on the signal reception and the capacity of the main network.

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There are many Mikrotik experts here but they'll probably want to charge for help with your specific setup.

PD: I'm a ROS noob that went with OpenWRT just cause it was way more convenient for my home network requirements.

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You need mangle rules to mark the traffic coming from the SSID you need to limit and create the corresponding queues, Mikrotik queue management is complex and I'm not capable of helping directly but you can research more about it.

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I like Mikrotik's approach of allowing the user to manually configure each aspect of the network/device but sadly there's no SQM amongst all those tons of options, I think Mikrotik should add features requested by users instead of creating a slow and limited web GUI like regular SOHO vendors do.

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Kudos to the team, it's day and night compared to OpenVPN

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It would be better for you to get a Mikrotik router to replace the ASUS, that way can unify the network management and limit bandwidth from there

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Go with Mimo%# PTMP
PD: I don't want to get banned

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A higher AMSDU value offers better raw througput but it can be counter producing on long distance link so start with 2048 and increase it till the connection starts to become worse, AMPDU priorities should remain default to avoid unnecesary CPU usage.

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I think the upgrade package is copied to RAM during the flash process, I can confirm this on hap ac2, but it has 128mb of RAM so older devices with low RAM may get bricked and require Netinstall.

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But how am I going to answer my wife when she ask me that why those TP-Link, Asus, Netgear, Ubiquiti, Xiaomi, Huawei, Linksys, Aruba, Ruckus, D-Link, Aztech, Buffalo..... are actually perform better in WiFi with or without fine tune? Please help, I got so much WiFi knowledge after learning MT but I...

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I think you're looking for something like this
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Connect_ ... ss_Network

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Mikrotik can provide two ROS 7.x builds to ARM devices e.g. wireless-testing which includes a driver based on ath10k/ct-smallbuffers and wireless-legacy which will continue to use the current driver until features like Capsman are supported by the new driver. The migration process should export the ...

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Enable local forwarding

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I'm currently using OpenWRT on my AC2 with ath10k ct smallbuffers driver, much better coverage than ROS (higher TX power I guess) and MU-MIMO is also enabled. The port still needs some additional work till it gets into mainline branch https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/3037 but it's more promi...

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I'm currently using OpenWRT on my AC2 with ath10k ct smallbuffers driver, much better coverage than ROS (higher TX power I guess) and MU-MIMO is also enabled. The port still needs some additional work till it gets into mainline branch https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/3037 but it's more promis...

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Mikrotik is all propietary stuff from Mikrotik running on top of Linux kernel, they don't even use Qualcomm WiFi drivers.

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I think Mikrotik is not using standard ath10k WiFi drivers like OpenWRT just cause they were stingy and put too little RAM on their APs (ath10k needs 256mb of RAM to work correctly).

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I'm planning to overhaul my home network by buying a TP-Link EAP-245 external AP and do SQM on my existing hAP AC2 router but there's still no SQM support in ROS 7

It's a shame cause this little box has killer hardware for routing

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You need 2x2 client to get more speed in 2.4ghz using a 20mhz bandwidth, setting AMSDU to 2048 may also help as well as enabling WMM (disabled actually means enabled as per 802.11n/ac standard requirement but doesn't broadcast WMM frames unless you enable such option it). If your 2.4ghz spectrum is ...

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IDK why Mikrotik haven't implemented fq_codel or CAKE qdiscs since they're already present in Linux 5.6, leave the classic mangle based traffic classification and prioritization for the enterprise but home users just need a simpler way to get rid of the bufferbloat caused by ISP misconfiguration. Ev...

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In the repeater set a fixed IP within the main router subnet

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Mikrotik prefers people to buy more APs to handle more clients instead of giving them MU-MIMO, just saying

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I wonder what's the real advantage of running my router with ondemand scheduler?

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It's normal with 2.4GHz

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Where is CAKE?!?!?!? Literally everyone expects it, yet there's nothing about it from mikrotik.. Kind of pathetic on their part tbh. You can find cakes here: https://majaskukas.lv/ Even trendy gluten free ones, which probably you like the most. We're talking about this 🍰 https://www.bufferbloat.net...

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I had similar problem. I have OLED55C9 which worked great before I changed my router to hap ac2. After setup i noticed some problems with films playback through dlna server. (btw it also affects to AirPlay which I noticed later) I tried all the options from this thread but nothing helped. And then ...

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Kernel 5.6.3, so little time after 4.x... Does it mean that RoS is using the official drivers, instead of Mikrotik's?

AFAIK Mikrotik uses its own drivers to allow faster kernel upgrades

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new kernel mean better wifi performance?

Sent from my SM-A705FN using Tapatalk

it feels a bit faster but maybe placebo

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Test this instead: /ip dns set allow-remote-requests=yes use-doh-server=https://1.1.1.1/dns-query Looks like your router does not resolve the name for cloudflare-dns.com It did in 6.47, I can even ping cloudflare-dns.com from the CLI but it's not working in DoH Anotación 2020-06-04 082617.png You u...

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DoH is still not working for me in beta8

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ROS 7 is now running over Linux 5.6.3 kernel, so I guess it's the time for real SQM like CAKE or fq-codel to be available in ROS

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Seems that the router is unable to resolve the DoH hostname. Post your DNS configuration and make sure you have at least one dynamic or static DNS server configured. I disabled the verify certificate option for testing but it still has resolving errors /ip dns set allow-remote-requests=yes servers=...

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DoH works fine for me.

Just added
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https://1.1.1.1/dns-query
Did not select "Verify DoH Certificate" since this is just a test.

The verify certicate option used to work in 6.47, I have the root certicate imported into the router

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DoH is no longer working in 7.0 beta 7, it worked in 6.47

Screenshot_20200604-061002_MikroTik.jpg

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I expected CAKE or fq-codel queue type since this new kernel already includes it.

Edit: Wireguard is also supported in kernel 5.6.x

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Beware that there are buggy Android phones that in certain countries only use 20mhz in RX and 20/40/80mhz in the TX chain giving slow download speeds and fast uploads.

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Is your SSID hidden?

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Use 20mhz only in 2.4Ghz, I can get like 75-80mbps with a 2x2 client.

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Use only wlan2 interface instead wlan3.
wlan3 was placed in this AP only for MESH purpose.
wlan2 can make 80Mhz channel width, wlan 3 support only 40Mhz channel width.

Don't use auto or XXXX channel widths

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Post your config, have you tried another client?

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Working fine in my AC2, maybe next beta is ROS7 based?

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The RB4011 hardware is actually better in each aspect, the problem with Mikrotik is that they use their own wireless driver instead of using the driver provided by Qualcomm. They do that to avoid depending on Qualcomm to update the Linux kernel when MT wants and not when Qualcomm releases a compati...

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Sorry, there is no Beamforming in Mikrotiks Wifi SW. Beamforming missing from MIMO capable MikroTik offering ??? No wonder MikroTik Wireless under - perform ? So its either Beamforming or Spatial Multiplexing .... normally part of the wireless driver packaging .... and yes it can be disabled or ena...

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The RB4011 hardware is actually better in each aspect, the problem with Mikrotik is that they use their own wireless driver instead of using the driver provided by Qualcomm. They do that to avoid depending on Qualcomm to update the Linux kernel when MT wants and not when Qualcomm releases a compatib...

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Lower both AMSDU Limit and Threshold to 2048, my S10e was constantly disconnecting every 5-10min despite being next to the router. After changing those settings, the phone only disconnects when I have a really low signal as it used to be with my old router. Edit: I saw you're using AMPDU priorities ...

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Is ROS 7 still being developed?, I wonder since there haven't been new betas since February.

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Hello, I had the same problem on my hAP ac². But currently I'm on 6.99 developer version. Maybe this will work for you guys. The solution is to disable AES CCM in Wireless » Security Profile (default) » General. Uncheck the AES CCM for Unicast Ciphers and Group Ciphers. Just leave the TKIP options....

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I hope Mikrotik implemented SQM and fixed those bugs in beta 6, otherwise why would it take so long?

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That's because you're using channels 116-128, other DFS channels require 60s and the non DFS ones start instantly.

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They can assemble 5G hardware, but I don't think the performance will be as good as another vendors since MT develops their own drivers so they don't need to depend on what Qualcomm says to update the Linux kernel.

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+1 for Wireguard, faster than anything else

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I'm also using hAP AC2 with beta60 and works fine for me, simple home network setup, QoS and DoH.

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Winbox may not be the best looking program written in some heavy framework like Electron with fancy animations and so on but gets the job done, other vendors have nicer web GUIs but they're so slow, buggy and requires you to reboot the router after each change.

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Can get up to 450mbps using btest in my hap ac2, this is my config if it helps /interface wireless security-profiles set [ find default=yes ] supplicant-identity=MikroTik add authentication-types=wpa2-psk disable-pmkid=yes eap-methods="" \ group-key-update=1h mode=dynamic-keys name=main su...

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Can we get btest for Android?

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I'm using this https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=73214 QOS2020 Optimized script, it works out of the box but I have two bridges: one for main network and other for guest wifi. I've tried to adapt it but when the bridge identifier mangle rules are enabler the other rules stop maarki...

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This is my config but I can't get it to work /ip firewall mangle add action=mark-connection chain=forward comment=MAIN-DOWNLOAD connection-state=new in-interface=bridge new-connection-mark=main-download passthrough=yes add action=mark-packet chain=forward connection-mark=main-download new-packet-mar...

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You may create a simple queues entry specifying the target IP or the entire interface you want to prioritize. Yeah, that would get the job done for OP but beware that doing that on a wireless network will also limit LAN-LAN speed. I say this since I've seen lots of tutorials suggesting people do th...

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Use AMSDU Limit/Threshold 2048, no multicast buffering, no keep-alive, no WPS, WPA2 AES only, 802.11 bgn mode, no noise immunity, choose the least used channel and you'll be able to get at least 80 Mbps using a 2x2 client in 20mhz mode. If your client is 1x1 only don't expect more than 45 Mbps.

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@bharrisau I'm using your QOS2020 Optimized script and it's working awesome but on my home network I have two bridges, one for the main network and the other for a guest wifi, how should I proceed?

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CAKE on DD-WRT worked much better than Mikrotik's SFQ queue tree but it's too unstable for home networking (wifi crashes, wan drops, etc), consider adding CAKE queue type instead of FQ-Codel since it provides the lowest fluctuations during heavy load, http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/63079766 thi...

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I think you should wait for MT to unlock UNII-2 frequencies for your US lock model, mine is hAP AC2 US and got those frequencies after updating ROS but the HW is not compatible with 160mhz bandwidth https://mikrotikdownload.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/news/news_95.pdf If that's the case I'll just re...

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On the Audience in the united states3 country setting, the only available frequencies for WLAN3 are 5745-5825. I think you should wait for MT to unlock UNII-2 frequencies for your US lock model, mine is hAP AC2 US and got those frequencies after updating ROS but the HW is not compatible with 160mhz...

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Since they recently licensed the entire WiFi spectrum for the US versions of their AC products, I guess they will for their WISP products since current consumer clients won't connect on those frequencies.

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If you use another DoH provider that ain't Google/Cloudflare you can enable Verify DoH Certificate after importing the two root certificates of the endpoint URL, I use cleanbrowsing so I opened https://doh.cleanbrowsing.org/doh/security-filter/ in Firefox and opened the certificate tab. certs.png Yo...

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Well, if you use PCQ you have some knobs to twiddle. I have improved ADSL2+ responsiveness with PCQ in simple queues by making the buffers smaller than the default (which otherwise seem to work well with 50+MBit speeds). For example on an ADSL2 annex m line with max-limit=1400k/16500k these queues ...

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