MikroTik

velk1001

They work and don't lockup like Ubiquiti 60Ghz stuff

velk1001

The ubiquiti LiteAp ac is not compatible with any of the Mikrotik products, it will only link to Ubiquiti products.

velk1001

RouterOS v6.49beta54 does lock the TX sector when the link stabilise.
You can see it once the link settled and the TX sector stops changing, if you move the link the signal doesn't change like it normally does.( give it a try)

velk1001

With the new beta software the TX sector locks after a period of time, this can mean you move the antenna and nothing happens to the Degree's your off.
You have to wait until it rescans the TX sectors, then it all works fine.

velk1001

The both have the same 40dBm signal, its the ethernet port that is faster

velk1001

There are two versions of the cube

https://mikrotik.com/product/cube_60g_ac
https://mikrotik.com/product/cube_lite60

velk1001

Have you managed to test them side by side yet?

velk1001

Thats a big difference

velk1001

I have seen others scanning the AP side looking for the client

velk1001

You are only scanning with the client not the AP? Just a thought

velk1001

At distance you have to be spot on the other side

velk1001

I would first get them together and see if they connect together.

At 60ghz the beam is very very narrow so a good aim is required and the default mount may be ok for short links but no good for that distance.

velk1001

Have you seen anything at all from the other end

velk1001

At that distance you really need the solidmount to adjust the dish

https://mikrotik.com/product/solidmount

velk1001

I know your at about the limit in distance for the LHG60
Which mount have you got on the LHG60 ?

velk1001

which version software are you running?

velk1001

You did add the extra frequency in the client side or it wont see it?
in w60g set scan-list=60480,62640,64800,66000

velk1001

Have you tried the higher frequency 66000 so less oxygen loss?

velk1001

If you switch beamforming off and re-align the antennas at both side there is an improvement, just remember to switch beamforming back on after.

Instead of 3degree beamwidth error its .88degree with beamforming off, you really need to take your time aiming

velk1001

nRay 60G sector pattern 0 .................... 8 9......................17 18....................26 27........31........35 36....................44 45....................53 54....................62 LHG 60G sector pattern 0.........................7 8.........................15 16.......................

velk1001

What do you mean centered has not being implemented?

when you get the link in the center which is 31 it says center or you can set beamforming off.

interface w60g set 0 tx-sector=31

velk1001

The center position on the nRAY is 31, it is hard to find

Also the TX sector info goes 0.2-0.8 then it changes TX sector, its not your off 0.2 degree

velk1001

The EN302567 is limiting the output power to 10w eirp to comply with the new EMF rules
All radio transmissions above 10w eirp in the UK have got to now comply with minium distance rules

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... -final.pdf

velk1001

I think the LHG60G will also be resticted when they get around to the certification process
After 30th November an EMF license is require for over 40dBm

velk1001

Yes they are transparent and just pass traffic across the ethernet ports

velk1001

The power limit in the UK has been lowered to 40dBm to comply to new EMF rules, have a look here:-

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... n-form.pdf

velk1001

I think i would reset the AP to default's as its not correct.

velk1001

I wouldn't be 100% sure but i think the SSID's are not the same, one is MikroTik-c854fa and the other is MikroTik, they should be the same .

192.168.88.1 is the AP
192.168.88.2 is the client

velk1001

I know it never moves, i haven't seen a command to change it yet.

velk1001

On an nRAY the center is 31
On a wireless wire LHG60 its 27,28,35,36

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=133374&start=300
Right at them both of the thread.

velk1001

On the wireless setting Tab under Mode is one set to bridge(AP) and the client is set to station bridge?

Do a scan on the station bridge and you should see the Bridge(AP)

velk1001

It must be something strange with your network setup causing it

velk1001

So if you disconnect your fibre link and just use your wireless link does it still crash?

velk1001

Does it crash if you only have one side of the network connected?
Could it be a loop?

velk1001

I have asked Lubomirz if he would a look, just waiting to see.

velk1001

Its not an Nray its the old version LHG60G which most go back too. I know there is a simular fault on the Ubiquiti 60G causing the units to lockup, its something to do with how the network is setup (routed or bridged). One of the guys on the ubiquiti site wrote:- There's something running out of bou...

velk1001

Is it only locking up when you connect to your network?
A few others have had problems with them being unstable and they swapped them for the old version and everything worked fine.

velk1001

Can you do a screen shot of the Routerboard TAB

velk1001

Can you take them back under warranty?

velk1001

Are you sure you have not got a power supply fault or a faulty cable?

velk1001

How strong is the signal strength?

velk1001

There is nothing to change power wise, it will adjust automatically.

velk1001

Why would you not try the beta software?
I was looking for a power setting, as the UK has changed the regulations as of the 30th November to a lower power output.
After 30th you can only use 10 erip as license free.

velk1001

The new firmware for the nRAY seems to stop checking the signal after it settles down, you can move it all over the place and the signal does not change. (routeros-arm64-6.49beta54.npk)
Hopeless if your trying to align the unit up.

velk1001

Something i have noticed is the metal dish on the NRAY is not earthed, i think it should be.

velk1001

The Nray still gets ice sticking to the front of the unit when its very cold.

velk1001

Have you tried setting your pc's ethernet port to 192.168.88.100, you should then be able to access the Cubelite on 192.168.88.1.
Remember to make sure both cubelites have different IP address when you set them up
One has to be the Access point and the other the station.

I hope this helps

velk1001

Mikrotik support wrote

this will be available on new 802.11ay hardware.
Unfortunately this cannot be used reliably on our existing 802.11ad devices - that is why this frequency support is removed

velk1001

Hi Antonsb i tried to email you via the mikrotik email support but i dont think you got it ?

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... -final.pdf
Regards

Paul

velk1001

Antonsb with the New regulations in the UK coming into force in November 30th, do you think Mikrotik will add a power control to turn down the output of the Nray to 40dBm to comply?

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... -final.pdf
Regards
Paul

velk1001

What devices does 66960 work on as the Nray says not supported

velk1001

I spotted it as you were typing, we noticed it back in april :)

velk1001

There is nothing wrong with the title?
A part from the missing 6.82.2

velk1001

I have seen a few reports of the airfiber60lr locking up not sending data at random time, unlike the Nray which just works.

velk1001

The airfiber 60LR has alot more output power compaired to the NRAY/ LHG60
https://fccid.io/SWX-AF60LR

velk1001

Due to new power restrictions in the UK does any one know how the lower the power output of the NRAY from 55dBm to 40dBm?

Regards

Paul

velk1001

Its a complete joke, there's no way to make the Nray comply with turning the power output down.

The new licence for EHF has not even been updated to include the 60Ghz range!

I think the power output of an Nray is 316watts eirp so the EMF distance is 2.5meter from the antenna

velk1001

So as i read that all high power point to point links will need to have a EHF licence in the UK!
We have until the 30th NOVEMBER 2021 to apply at a cost of £75

OFCOM make the wording of their rules so hard to follow!

velk1001

Does anyone know why you cant use the alignment tab on the routeros with the Nray, i have only managed to do it though the Terminal command line?

velk1001

I have just updated an Nray and i now have the extra channels, can the UK use these extra channels thou?

Regards

Paul

velk1001

Have you got the version correct?
I thought they were only accessible though CLI so far (Nray), i would be nice if they were.

Regards

Paul

velk1001

If you have a look at (third from bottem) https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=161445 You see the damage water can do, i know this with years of putting antennas up! If you look at the pictures supplied by Mikrotik the seal is not level with the outside of the plastic gland, this will ...

velk1001

These should work straight out the box
Check that one unit is setup as a Bridge and the other is station bridge
The Station bridge will be the only one that will find the (AP) Bridge with a scan command
I hope that helps a little

Regards

Paul

velk1001

Thats suprising, i thought it would be down on the LHG 60G.

Just remember to put some amalgamanting tape on the ethernet inlet to stop any water getting in.

velk1001

Could you tell me if there is much difference in the signal between the nray working one and LHG 60g?

I have a Nray over a NLOS which is great at weather predicting lol.

Regards

Paul

velk1001

It might of just been the size of the dish being bigger that has helped with the signal?

velk1001

How fast did they transfer the data ?

velk1001

Make sure you use some self amalgamation tape on the ethernet connector gland or it might let water in ( bad design)

velk1001

Have you got total line of sight between the two dishes? (Trees between are a no no) Taken your time adjusting the mount and make sure the pole you are using is totally vertical( i had this problem), if its not straight you'll loose signal. Once you get the best signal try switching the auto beamfor...

velk1001

The units are not correctly aligned to each other, used the signal strength instead of the RSSI to align them.

When you get them aligned you might see TX-sector 31 which is the center.

good luck

Paul

velk1001

Its a shame that there is no official information how the beam patterns are set for different TX-sector setting?

Regards

Paul

velk1001

Watch out for the locking nuts stripping if you move it alot as well.

velk1001

For some reason know one will answer any information about the tx/rx module, i think the module is by Qualcomm.

No info for the TX-sector beam information fullstop for some reason!

velk1001

If you look at the TX/RX module it will do horizontal and vertical polarization but i think they are only using vertical???

velk1001

There seem to be few that are doing this distance and more, in their contest.

https://community.ui.com/stories/contest

velk1001

Ubiquiti are miles in front for distance, but they seem to have a problem with the unit's locking up on the slave side as i have read.

velk1001

Could any one who has an Nray, tell me if the wireless alignment works on the GUI or only on the terminal command line?

Regards

Paul

velk1001

I have just upgrade to v7.1beta4 from v6.48 on an Nray and the bandwidth speed test is not working any more.

Regards
Paul

velk1001

I thought the new unit was the Nray?

Regards

Paul

velk1001

Is the array vertical polarisation only as it looks like its horizontal too?

regards
Paul

velk1001

Thank you modsx for stripping the Nray, i am shocked just to see the very small phased array antenna at the heart of the Dish!

I was expecting multiple phased array board not just one.

Regards

Paul

velk1001

If you set the tx-sector=auto does it read more than .8 of a degree as mine does not|! ( the arrows are no help at all) I have had to do the same as you with aligning the signal with the tx-sector set to 31, the arrows dont light up when not set to auto. I am too a ham radio operator and love playin...

velk1001

Could i ask does the tx-sector info on your unit show anything above 0.8 of a degree in any direction ?

Regards

Paul

velk1001

Hi Daniel,

I'm glad it helped you but which unit are you using as nray center is 31 and the mesh dish i believe is 36.

Regards

Paul

velk1001

If you haven't got one of the nRAY solidMOUNT you will struggle to align as the movement is so small!

Regards

Paul

velk1001

I must say these units are very hard to align and the plastic alignment tool just forget it

In my case the antenna at the remote end is -1 degree but the antenna is tilted backwards + 2 degree which is strange, i thought it would be pointing down -1 degree like my 5ghz link does.

I hope this helps

velk1001

Thank you for looking I thought the same with software not showing the disconnections on the window for disconnection, if you go into the logs it shows disconnection on the master. I gave up with the automatic alignment, once i got a stable connection open terminal and send /in w60g set 0 tx-sector=...

velk1001

A new PSU has been fitted today after the last one went Bang!

The winbox is reading the same as the web browser, reading 0.2-0.8 then back to 0.2 on the TX sector info.
Also the alignment interface shows unknown device when i try to use it.

Anyone got any ideas

Regards

Paul

velk1001

Ok is that another fault with not seeing any down times too on the master unit, on the slave i get down time. The Psu blow up last night so i am waiting for a replacement! (lucky i was in the house when it went bang) When i turn the antenna to the right the reading will only read 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 the...

velk1001

Hi all, I have an Nray ptp link and i am having problems aligning the unit correctly, the TX sector info will only show 0.2 to 0.8 in any degrees is this correct? Also the quick set on the master does not change the ip address, there is extra db on RSSI and an extra m on Distance Has anyone else see...

velk1001

Hi Tapiya,

Could i ask does your Nray show degree's over 0.8 in any direction? or have i got a faulty unit????
I noticed the aiming tool is a total waste of plastic as it does not point near the correct direction

Regards

Paul

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