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igorr29

thanks. during weekend i installed it the way i was planning and - i didn't like how it looks on the wood. the wap mount with the metal strap is making it stay too distant from the wood like it's floating.
i will probably re-mount it somewhere else, but i still want to skip any drilling.

igorr29

can a set of these be mounted in different polarization? i have a pole where one unit would be mounted vertically, but on the other side is a wood horizontal bar that holds the roof tiles - where i'd mount the other unit horizontally so i don't have to drill the wood.
total distance is 30m.

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at some point we had to deploy around 800 cap ac for a hotel. of course managed by capsman. so with the old v6 ros, this was done in a few days, just resetting the new device and upload a minimal config that would set a few things took us around 1.5 - 2 min per device. imagine now with DEVICE PASSWO...

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can that default password somehow be deleted forever so it doesn't pop up after 5 years again? You can set a custom configuration with help of branding, or you can choose not to apply default configuration in Netinstall. can you elaborate the 1st part? i'm used to mikrotik devices not having a defa...

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first time seeing the DEVICE MODE. upgrading from beta2, this was a nightmare. it didn't want to upgrade by simply copying the npk into files. when i wanted to reboot it into netinstall - it said DEVICE MODE doesn't allow me to do it ! after checking which device mode i'm in - i'm in advanced mode. ...

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Dear all, i bought a new mantbox 15s AX, but we face issue of spectrum analyze , in QRT and LHG5 we have spectrum to select clean frequency but in this device we did nt find that , any one can help ? and also we mainly use NV2 for security of wireless, we also didnt find that option in 5Ghz band. w...

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Hello, It's a journey that I have started and would like to have more members join me! :) Target: How to achieve a Gbps RF P2P link on 5GHz (LicenseFREE band) using Mikrotik Routerboards. Looking for inputs, suggestion, ideas! Admin.... Can we make this post sticky? -Siddharth 6 internet memes that...

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is SUPERCHANNEL actually working for anyone with ax boards?
why is it even there if it's not working?

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it *should* work:

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igorr29

the 2nd board does not even see the wifi network from the 1st board. where is the scanlist in the new ax driver? it shows wifi networks in the 5180-5300 range even when i selected frequency 5500-5900 so that setting obviously is not for scanlist. how to even force the board to scan the whole 5ghz ba...

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if i want to make a ptp link with these (let's forget the home AP idea, i don't have time to mess with that, i have aruba aps at home that work flawlessly) how to set them up, i mean - how to pick the frequencies and how will i know if those frequencies will work? my current link is using 80mhz and ...

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not sure i really follow that much. just considering a cheapo isp modem (speedport plus) that probably costs a few euro is giving me all 300mbit on wifi on default setup (80mhz channel, it's ac device). same spot, same setting, same client devices on same location. not sure if to sell the mikrotik b...

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can the frequency be selected with 5mhz step like in non-ax chips, or must follow strict "wifi channels" frequencies? It seems that it requires using proper channel frequencies. Just tried to set frequency to 5205 on my Audience (runing wifi-qcom-ac). CLI does allow to set it, but interfa...

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mine are still in box...
can the frequency be selected with 5mhz step like in non-ax chips, or must follow strict "wifi channels" frequencies? for example can i set it on 5515mhz? or must go on 5500, 5520, 5540....?
how does it work in noisy areas with channel overlap?

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Omidirectional, best signal possible and passive PoE supply. Still need Wi-Fi 4 connectivity. My Outdoor omni go to is the XV2-2T. i can second this. we used them as omnis in big camps, they work better than the old 700 line. coverage is huge, we had normal phone reception from around 400m on them,...

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change vendor. mikrotik now has only lhg 5ac xl , which is really not suited for collocation. it's a solid CPE but not for ptp. the price of them is very close to competitors with better antennas (maybe they're 10ish % cheaper), so no reason not to look to other solutions. also when they DO come out...

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it will probably be a pain to allign

igorr29

Don't you have 2 years of warranty? ax2 is not to long on the market i think, so you shouldn't really care if it's dead, just send it out for replacement.

igorr29

ax don't have superchannel.

igorr29

i don't have computer on the remote point, it's just a ptp relay station. there's an omnitik poe for powering ap devices and then a total of 3 ptp links. from what i can see unidirectional works quite well so in real life it should also work well. i will probably see saturation in download, but i do...

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I recently changed a mixed ubnt-mikrotik link (that was working okayish) to a mikrotik ac link. it's going from a village to the city. i did my best to re-allign the dishes, consider this is a NLOS link, slight visual obstruction. i think just the roof of the house in front is the only obstruction. ...

igorr29

thanks.
i suppose this distances are during normal clean weather with no fog or rain?
in that case, this probably won't work for me, or i must use backup.

igorr29

30KM, urban, with a lot of noise , -70dBm signal levels and you want "no more than 300mbit"?
get real.
maybe with 34dBi dishes and high power radios you might get something close to 200mbit.

igorr29

can someone tell me if an LHG60ad can connect to a wap60 from ~500m distance? i have aesthetical limitations for mounting anything on the fasade and the wap is the only device i could fit nicely, and the client would be 500m away, i can put lhg there. would that work OK? right now there's a ptp 2ghz...

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or vice-versa, doesn't matter, as long nothing is connected to the DC port on the injector.

igorr29

by default POE is turned OFF and it won't turn on by itself if connected to a device that doesn't ask for power. at least for me it never happened while it's set to auto. if you set it to forced-on, yes it will power anything and probably fry a non-poe device. you can always use a gigabit poe inject...

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you have to do that on both sides, and then take your time and make good AIM, it's important to have them perfectly alligned. at 6km with 30dBi dishes that should work perfectly. i have 6km with 25dBi dishes over a bit of trees and have about -70dBm signal, and can pass about 75mbit of traffic. the ...

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in which country are you ? what freq are you using? also - the signal are quite bad for this distance, do you have a lot of trees in between? ccq is also bad. for that distance it should workwell, i have 4km link over a hill with trees, on 2ghz i get about -77 and can pass about 75-80mbit (because o...

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is anyone expecting this to work with 0dBm output power? since when are mikrotik users worrying about "emitting at 60 dBm" and that that would be "very illegal." ? it's been like that for 20 years. nobody sane is expecting to use 0dBm output power for a production link, nor is ex...

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Did mikrotik have a mantbox 12 with no radio?
i'm trying to find, and i was sure i saw once a 2ghz sector antenna like a mantbox but without radio. right now i can only find 5ghz version.
tnx

igorr29

uh shit, really they are. not even local distributor has them anymore.
not sure why they did it, but this is a bad info, and they also discontinued other 5ghz devices like qrt5ac and dynadish.

igorr29

ac lites are quite crappy in terms of wifi on both radios. that said - put 2ghz on 20mhz, and 5ghz on 80mhz and you'll see 100mbit on 5ghz. i have 2 of them in my network, 2ghz is really just for IOT and such stupid things, and all laptops and phones are on 5ghz. with 80mhz i can get 100mbit out of ...

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I'm soon to mount a new ptp link , it's rural between 2 villages. a friend of mine built a new house out in a small village where there's no internet, and since his house is new he also doesn't have a telephone wire so no adsl either. i already have a longer link, 6km link from city to the 1st villa...

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the bigger the antenna the less wide is the beam. more or less it's the rule.

igorr29

well, it's not that it wouldn't work... in terms of antenna. just that you'd be putting your signal around way too much, and also picking up noise from all around. a dedicated ptp antennas like lhg52ac would be better suited, but yes, they don't exist with ax. i never worked with wave2 drivers so......

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i was quite sure in whole EU are the same rules, even italy dropped licensing for 60ghz and is now free for everyone.
wireless wire doesn't reach 400m... it's too low power...
ps mobile towers don't use 60ghz, they mostly use licensed links around 80ghz.

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what country is that? are you sure 60ghz isn't "free" for personal use? that being said - a low power 60ghz link is almost impossible to "discover" unless you're really in line of sight for those few 100s meters in front of it. if you put the devices on the fasade and not on the ...

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also QRT5 ac.
weird.
we still have both in use and 1 spare for each...

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i have a ptp link between work and home, both are on same subnet unfortunatelly. both devices of the ptp link are acting like routers - have masquerade configured. this is the config on both (just the important stuff) home SXT: /ip address add address=192.168.2.52/24 interface=ether1 network=192.168...

igorr29

so in the end - does this work for someone or not? can you - to who it works - put screenshots? also can someone confirm with screenshots these can run 160mhz channel? i don't want to spend 150eur and pass the hassle of replacing the boards only to see they don't work and return them to the distribu...

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i'm about to order these soon actually. i have both ltu-lr and these in the basket. just as info - can these be bridged to AC chipset? or must both sides of the ptp link be replaced for these to work? PS these CAN do 160mhz, right? should i see a drastic increase in speed after replacement, if my cu...

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what are you using those for? i'm currious as to what usecase these can have nowadays.

igorr29

i did that route around 4 years ago after my dsl died. got an sxt. the connection was decent (50-60mbit) but it had constant, many many times per day micro-stutterings (like a second or two) when no data would pass. tried everything, changing ros version, modem fw, bands... had that problem for mont...

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are we talking about LOCAL wifi speed, or downstream from the mobile base station? LOCAL wifi shares airtime. in case of bad signal from client, those 10mbit up could eat all the airtime so that's why you have extremely low download speed. try to test via cable. IF you're talking about GSM connectio...

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i was eye-ing those new ax boards (to put in jirous 24 antennas for ptp), but at the same (or even lower) pricepoint i can get LTU-XR (around 105eur here per device). did someone make a real world comparison? the wisp i worked for used LTU gear and it was quite well performing (like 400mbit on 40mhz...

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after you'd theoretically get level 4 licence - the unit itself would be an AP for what exactly?

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these china all-in-ones do look interesting, at least they're not a DIY thingy. only shady thing is they're using li-ion cells ,, and we know chinese cells can light up more easily than brand cells. had a bunch of chinese powerbanks, they didn't last even a fraction of what a brand powerbank could l...

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thanks, but everything linked is actually more complicated than putting a normal UPS on the 24V brick. meanwell dc-dc COULD be an option but then it requires fiddling with lan cables , taking out power from incoming lan cable, putting a rj45 coupler, DC jack output, another poe injector... all point...

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What I usually do is I use UPS power supplies from Meanwell, I think model is DRC-100B (24V 100W PSU). I combine that with two 7Ah SLA batteries and some weatherproof enclosure. Pozdrav :D how do you power the meanwell charger? with 220V? what i'm looking for is a (smaller) device, that can take a ...

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yes i get it... just, i find it an interesting device.
is there something similar for cheap? from any vendor. i really don't want to put a UPS inside the house.

igorr29

it up-converts it to 20V, i've read it elsewhere. which is plenty for a lhg+omnitik setup.
is there another similar item from some other vendor? something plug and play with 2 wires for an akku

igorr29

what happened to that device?
https://mikrotik.com/product/mups

i knew it existed, now was planning an outdoor instalation with outdoor UPS and this thing is nowhere to be found.

igorr29

thanks the network is mine, i can do and change everything needed to get this to work, voip phones can be on any vlan i set up (i mean, on remote location - the local voip pbx is fixed on vlan 500). i was thinking more in a way to make a vlan 501 from hex to hap , and then bridge vlan 500 and vlan 5...

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guys please help me a bit, i have to add a voip line to a remote office. i have my office network with mixed ports (vlan 500 tagged for voip, untagged vlan for everything else). all phones in the office are on a tagged vlan. on that network i have a hex that is routing traffic for an outside locatio...

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not sure. a normal disconnection doesn't bring it back fully. i tried a lot of things, changing channel width, frequencies all over the band, but it behaves the same. sometimes works better with worse signal that with better signal (like right now). i even see 300mbit sync rates from time to time. s...

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and now after reboot (and upgrade while i was at it) it works OK, it will work OK for some time and then go to shit again.

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that's mikrotik ptp for you. you have these weird timeouts, right? mine does that the same, i have a 8km link that's not really great but when IT FEELS LIKE working, it works OK (80-100mbit) but then it has bad day and it simply goes to shit (drop to 10-20mbit and full of timeouts without dropping t...

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Because they are manufacturer the whole chain down themselves? And maybe export-products are even "subventionated" by Chinese government as well. i think that's the reason, but who i am to know. point is - both xiaomi and tplink offer cheap and fast routers. i have a xiaomi mi 4a gigabit ...

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this sounds like some of the soviet/yugo ghosts still living in the house , ahah. have the same problem in a yugo apartment block. 90m2 , the signal stops mid corridor and doesn't go beyond. even in times of ooold adsl (512kbit), i had "full speed" in the living room, but getting only abou...

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the wifi of both radios togehter won't ever reach 1gbit, so don't bother.

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i got tired of setting this up again, i'll check prtg free version.

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I have Dude running on hex s on microSD card. the card is formatted in ext4 format. been running dude for a year on usb drive - the drive died. then i changed to microSD the last ~6 months. it stopped working last month (i rarely use it, just for checking traffic if there's some problems). dude itse...

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no need to netinstall
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ ... g+RouterOS

also if you DO need to netinstall, you can do it remotely by telling it to try ethernet instead of nand for the next reboot,and then run netinstall and reboot it.

igorr29

can't you leave it like this? you don't need signal TO the cameras, it's just a few kbit of data anyway. you need good RX signal, and you have that.
that said, you should downgrade to 6.48 for example and see if tx power will increase.

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wait, you have only 1 lhg acting as AP? or each camera has it's own lhg in station mode so you have 1 LHG AP and 2 x LHG clients?

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this story is interesting and i'm wondering if there exists a "cluster mode" where 2 mikrotik routers could work together, like some other vendors offer? in business i have fortigates in HA mode, servers in HA mode, and now ordered 2 voip centrals that also support HA mode. great things , ...

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thanks, that's plenty fast.

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I inserted the card (32 GB) into Hex S and it doesn't get automatically detected. Am I supposed to reboot the device or there's some incompatibility? Can someone who owns Hex S confirm how deep the card goes into the slot? Mine sticks out by about 8 millimeters. it's sticking out too much, it's mor...

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Hello, can someone tell me how routerOS decide when to switch from route1 to route2 or route3 based on ping ? i have 2 internet connections (main 500mbit, backup 50mbit on a secondary location) and my routers that i have around my properties are setup to always use route1 (main connection) distance1...

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the problem is you're using omni antennas to make a ptp bridge Indeed one of the potential problems,(using 40 MHz in 2.4GHz band is another), that cannot be seen from the config used, but is dependent on the RF spectrum in the environment. So besides the config, one should at least look at the regi...

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Can anyone give a hint what could be the problem, biig tnx in advance!

Kind regards everyone!

the problem is you're using omni antennas to make a ptp bridge. why?

igorr29

that's about the correct speed you're getting for such a setup.
it's a bad setup anyway, why using omni for ptp link? and why using metal in 2024. year?
get rid of those and get a pair of sxt 5 lite (for 100mbit speed) , sxtsq5ac for ~200mbit speed, or wireless wire for gigabit.

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every AP can have it's ssid tunneled thru a vlan. if you don't know which vlan it is - then your wifi doesn't work, as there's no "exit" on the other side. your dhcp gives IP to the unifi ap itself - but the wifi clients are 99% on a vlan. since you didn't setup a vlan on the hex - of cour...

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those are some bad links... 60% ccq while idle at -50dB signal? wtf? that is probably dropping to unusable levels when you do a speedtest. if it's really such a traffic in the air, i'm surprised this thing even works. DROP the 80mhz, even 40, and try to use 20mhz to get ccq up to the 90ish % and the...

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i've got a friend living rural who is playing dota2 over 6(!) ptp 5ghz links, and he's not complaining about the delay. your 60ghz delay of 2-3 ms is completely irrelevant for the game itself.

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vlans?

igorr29

thx. we'll see after ax cpe come out if we'll test these. from what i read there is no nv2 on ax, and we only use nv2 for ptmp. privately i'd like to test a ptp link with sxt ax when they come out. the sxtsq5ac has been a disaster for ptp, unlike the ac lite or full 5ac which are 3 levels above the ...

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actually 60ghz units are full duplex, meaning 1gbps/1gbps all the time.
as long as your mid point is not using internet, the 3rd point should be able to use full bandwidth. or close to full bandwidth.

igorr29

Can someone tell me what is this device supposed to be? can we finally use mantboxes as public area access points , or are they still being designed for ptmp? we use mantboxes only as ptmp. what kind of client cpe can we expect to pair with this? sxt ax, lhg ax? also, what is the output power and se...

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it'll work, just slower. did that a long time ago with an omnitik and 2 sxt, and internet was on 1st sxt (omni was like a repeater to get signal to the 2nd location). i got like 35-40% of total bandwidth.

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on 40mhz channel which is realistic for such a deployment, i have never seen more than 170mbit tcp betwen an omnitik ac and any client device we had (be it sxtsq or lhg5ac), regardless if on the omnitik were 3 or 13 clients. urban 500m is probably too much for sxt as client device, we used lhg for u...

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it is, give or take 20-30mbit. at 650mbit sync, you don't have enough "clean" signal to get more, and even it was 866/866 it would still go max 300mbit. get yourself a wireless wire set, or a set of cubes if they enter your budget. but for 120m a wireless wire set will work well, if you ha...

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LOL didn't read that part.
mine works okay-ish at 80m between house and garage, about 40mbit, plenty enough for a camera and occasional music listening, devices not visible, no cables or roof mounts and no need for dedicated p2p. but that's me.

igorr29

cant you just buy a pair of powerline adapters since that camera will use some kind of electricity anyway?

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we too in a tourist camp use cambium outdoor aps , and recently covered terraces and pools with their new line-up , so the xv2 series are great. the xv2-2t during testing range in production, we were able to connect to it from ~350-400m and it was able to hold a connection (slow, about 5mbit). going...

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i have a ac2 on ros v7 that is not recognizing the usb port in system-ups package, but under resources-usb it show i have connected an apc ups. the same problem was in ros v6. i have a ac lite with the same config and same ups that is working normally. i tried the same ros version, then i tried to u...

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