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by timberwolf
Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: non-magnetic metal used for mount bracket screws of CCR1016
Replies: 3
Views: 608

Re: non-magnetic metal used for mount bracket screws of CCR1016

High quality stainless steel is non-magnetic. :-)
by timberwolf
Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:52 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.41rc [release candidate] is released! New bridge implementation!
Replies: 561
Views: 125163

Re: v6.41rc [release candidate] is released! New bridge implementation!

...snip...
Ker-blamo, you have a 2 VLAN network with an access port in each and a trunk port on ether4 to uplink to your network.
Thanks, will give it a shot. :-)
by timberwolf
Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:35 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.41rc [release candidate] is released! New bridge implementation!
Replies: 561
Views: 125163

Re: v6.41rc [release candidate] is released! New bridge implementation!

How would one realize inter-vlan routing or generally vlan interfaces with the new bridge implementation?
Can't find anything on this except some emtpy placeholder topic in the Wiki.
by timberwolf
Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:24 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: Problem with IPTV on RB850Gx2
Replies: 14
Views: 3877

Re: Problem with IPTV on RB850Gx2

Did anyone ever revisit or verify this with newer versions?
I had some issues with reordering with 6.34(if I'm not mistaken) which could be worked around by disabling one core in RouterBoot.
Didn't retry this later on, as I then shelved the RB850Gx2.
by timberwolf
Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:05 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ETA v8
Replies: 21
Views: 4204

Re: ETA v8

Fix for muticore packet reordering comes to mind, if this isn't already silently fixed. I didn't have the motivation of retesting this since a few months. Last time I stumbled upon this(6.34 I think) I disabled one core of the RB850Gx2 under test. Im referring to https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic...
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:22 am
Forum: General
Topic: 6.32.3 version released!
Replies: 47
Views: 14979

Re: 6.32.3 [CURRENT] version released!

Problem with router cache owerflow caused by sending traffic over IPsec tunnels still persists in this release, despite the fact the Router Cache feature is turned off.

Ticket number #2015081766000633
In which constelation? Pleain IPSec or in combination with L2TP maybe?
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:18 am
Forum: General
Topic: Openstack neutron plugin.
Replies: 5
Views: 3586

Re: Openstack neutron plugin.

As MikroTik products are more targeted to the (W)ISP sector
I am not sure if that's the case anymore.
...
Anyhow, they (MikroTik) are nevertheless not aimed at the DC sector. :wink:
by timberwolf
Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Openstack neutron plugin.
Replies: 5
Views: 3586

Re: Openstack neutron plugin.

As MikroTik products are more targeted to the (W)ISP sector, there is not much point in integrating a purely datacenter centric feature like OpenStack Neutron into the product line.

Just my two cent.
by timberwolf
Sat May 30, 2015 3:15 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.29 released
Replies: 193
Views: 50092

Re: v6.29 released

Cha0s Seems to be something about how the onfiguration system works, as I often came across the same behaviour during operation of a single version. Something breaks and is only fixable with config reset or netinstall. As I have no clue how the config system is implemented, I can only guess that so...
by timberwolf
Fri May 29, 2015 3:47 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.29 released
Replies: 193
Views: 50092

Re: v6.29 released

*) fixed async. ppp server;
PPTP Client seems broken after upgrade to 6.29.

Every few minutes it disconnects.Screenshot: http://prntscr.com/7apgti
This keeps on since yesterday's upgrade.
Working flawless here, 6.29 on client(RB450G)&server(x86) though.
by timberwolf
Fri May 29, 2015 12:01 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.29 released
Replies: 193
Views: 50092

Re: v6.29 released

RB750 after upgrade from 6.28 DHCP client on ether1 don't work - status "searching". Settings are default.
I downgraded to 6.28 - works fine.
Stumbled across this more then once. In my cases reinstalling with netinstall always solved the issue in case config reset didn't help.
by timberwolf
Fri May 29, 2015 9:45 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.29 released
Replies: 193
Views: 50092

Re: v6.29 released

Did anyone else notice the L2MTU reduction on RB450G? With switch-all-ports=no I previously had 1526 now its 1522 for ether1. Noticed this with 6.29rc22 and 6.29, not sure if it was reduced before those versions
by timberwolf
Thu May 21, 2015 3:42 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Nested virtualization with KVM
Replies: 2
Views: 2146

Nested virtualization with KVM

Hi all, I couldn't find a positive report about anyone running (RouterOS) KVM instances inside a RouterOS system which itself is a KVM guest. I'm running multiple nested KVM instances for testing purposes using plain Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, so nested virtualization with KVM is definitely working in my env...
by timberwolf
Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:43 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Winbox 3 beta
Replies: 243
Views: 120832

Re: Winbox 3

Noyo, why is a changed button location a bug?
by timberwolf
Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: CRS documentation
Replies: 79
Views: 30310

Re: CRS documentation

As far as I know, you can't use any STP on a CRS unless you use software bridges, which you for sure don't wan't to.
by timberwolf
Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:58 pm
Forum: General
Topic: v6.15 released
Replies: 302
Views: 103909

Re: v6.15 released

Just to let you now, I couldn't get the lastest 6.15 netinstall working, used the 6.13 netinstall without any problems.
Of course local firewall was off in both cases.
by timberwolf
Tue May 27, 2014 12:38 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Newletter 58
Replies: 7
Views: 8243

Re: Newletter 58

Why no acl on the crs125? Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk CRS125 does not have hardware capability for ACL, CRS226 has it because of more advanced switch-chip. So L3 forwarding in hardware will also only be available for the CRS226, maybe? Any further info on the planned L3 support? Like to be...
by timberwolf
Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:00 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB750G with dead ethernets
Replies: 6
Views: 1380

Re: RB750G with dead ethernets

Looks like a hardware defect to me.
by timberwolf
Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:19 pm
Forum: General
Topic: CRS documentation
Replies: 79
Views: 30310

Re: CRS documentation

Hello, I just would like some more configuration examples such as a basic L3 switch with inter-VLAN routing. The way how a VLAN interface interacts with the switch is pretty unclear for me. Thanks! AFAIK you can only route via the embedded CPU, so inter-VLAN routing is achieved by switching the aff...
by timberwolf
Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:53 pm
Forum: General
Topic: dhcp client doesn't work with cisco since RouterOS v. 6.7
Replies: 18
Views: 2949

Re: dhcp client doesn't work with cisco since RouterOS v. 6.

GSXR You could try to netinstall the failing RB if you haven't done so already. I had many errors which could only be resolved by netinstalling the whole board, a configuration reset also didn't help in many cases. I guess this is somehow caused by the configuration system screwing up in the backgr...
by timberwolf
Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:03 am
Forum: General
Topic: dhcp client doesn't work with cisco since RouterOS v. 6.7
Replies: 18
Views: 2949

Re: dhcp client doesn't work with cisco since RouterOS v. 6.

GSXR You could try to netinstall the failing RB if you haven't done so already. I had many errors which could only be resolved by netinstalling the whole board, a configuration reset also didn't help in many cases. I guess this is somehow caused by the configuration system screwing up in the backgr...
by timberwolf
Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:43 am
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB850Gx2 Network interface details
Replies: 36
Views: 19704

Re: RB850Gx2 Network interface details

What puzzles me is the RAM size. What do we need 512MB of RAM for when we AFAIK can't use Metarouters on it, because it is a dual core architecture?
by timberwolf
Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:46 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB850Gx2 Network interface details
Replies: 36
Views: 19704

Re: RB850Gx2 Network interface details

I was hoping for some info from MT, as the board seems to be ready judging from the pictures in the presentation and brochure.
But somehow that seems to be asking for too much. :(
by timberwolf
Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:26 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB850Gx2 Network interface details
Replies: 36
Views: 19704

Re: RB850Gx2 Network interface details

The Rack mount cases sold by Varia are very good, I used one of this cases fitted with a RB450G and an ALIX board, made a nice routing and generic x86 platform in 1U. :D
by timberwolf
Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:28 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB850Gx2 Network interface details
Replies: 36
Views: 19704

Re: RB850Gx2 Network interface details

Price $129 HW acceleration HW acceleration? Where did you get this info? Cheers, Jan It was mentioned in another thread here: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=78907#p410563 but you can also check the specs for CPU in this link, under accelerators you will find security engine: http://w...
by timberwolf
Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:27 pm
Forum: General
Topic: MUM Europe 2014 - Italy, Venice, February 20-21
Replies: 146
Views: 59485

Re: MUM Europe 2014 - Italy, Venice, February 20-21

Any more details about the RB850Gx2?
I started a thread here: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82684
by timberwolf
Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:26 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Newsletter 55 - new products!
Replies: 32
Views: 10386

Re: Newsletter 55 - new products!

Any more details about the RB850Gx2?
I started a thread here: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82684
by timberwolf
Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:41 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB850Gx2 Network interface details
Replies: 36
Views: 19704

Re: RB850Gx2 Network interface details

I'm not talking about mechanical features rextended...
As barkas said, a block diagram including switch chip specs is what I'd like to see.
by timberwolf
Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:52 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB850Gx2 Network interface details
Replies: 36
Views: 19704

RB850Gx2 Network interface details

Hi MT Team, any more info you can reveal fpr this upcoming board? I really like the network interface design of the RB450G, especially the separatable first interface and the switch chip features. Im also using some VLAN tag rewriting functions of the AR8316 for some neat tricks. Any info on what to...
by timberwolf
Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:44 pm
Forum: General
Topic: 6.9 released!
Replies: 223
Views: 80051

Re: 6.9 released!

The device is in full production for thousands of people so no supout and further analysis is possible, this is a severe incident, email incidents like this gives calls out 24 / 7 with responce time 1 hour! I will now have to sit writing a report to upper management on what have happened. I really ...
by timberwolf
Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:55 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: Routerboard AR8327 switch rules VLAN features missing
Replies: 0
Views: 690

Routerboard AR8327 switch rules VLAN features missing

Hi, I am missing certain features in the AR8327 switch ruleset which are present in the AR8316 ruleset. To be specific, matching on VLAN IDs and setting new VLAN IDs as an action. Both features are supported by the AR8327, at leat the datasheet states this in section "2.7.2 Action Definition" and we...
by timberwolf
Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:43 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: S-31DLC20D GBIC compatible with Cisco3750?
Replies: 3
Views: 2035

Re: S-31DLC20D GBIC compatible with Cisco3750?

Cisco products only supports their own SFPs, other SFPs don't work.
But you may have a look here, maybe it helps: http://www.flexoptix.net
by timberwolf
Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:32 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB750GL maximum throughput
Replies: 4
Views: 2773

Re: RB750GL maximum throughput

I'd say 20Mbit/s is okay for the small CPU in the RB750GL. Did you have a look on the CPU usage during such a file tranfer? Do you have encryption enabled?
by timberwolf
Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:01 am
Forum: General
Topic: Can ROS become infected?
Replies: 10
Views: 2229

Re: Can ROS become infected?

A lot of stuff is possible in pure theory, however, until somebody has actually done it, there is no point in scaring people.
That wasn't my intention but stating "RouterOS can not be infected." isn't really better. :?
Anyway, I hope the report from gcs was bogus.
by timberwolf
Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:47 am
Forum: General
Topic: Can ROS become infected?
Replies: 10
Views: 2229

Re: Can ROS become infected?

RouterOS can not be infected. ... Heard that one before. :lol: Even if you prohibit writing to disk, infected code can still be run from RAM. ;-) I would love to see some actual evidence for this. Evidence for what? That ROS can be infected or that it's possible to run code from RAM? ;-) Seriously ...
by timberwolf
Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:28 am
Forum: General
Topic: Cloud Router Switch Uplink
Replies: 18
Views: 5608

Re: Cloud Router Switch Uplink

I highly doubt, that you will anything even near to 1Gbps, if the CRS design was done like all aother RBs with integrated switch chip, then there is a single 1G link from the switch chip to the CPU. So if you add all ports including the uplink to a software bridge you trying to push the traffic of ...
by timberwolf
Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:21 am
Forum: General
Topic: Can ROS become infected?
Replies: 10
Views: 2229

Re: Can ROS become infected?

RouterOS can not be infected. ...
Heard that one before. :lol: Even if you prohibit writing to disk, infected code can still be run from RAM. ;-)
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:57 am
Forum: General
Topic: Cloud Router Switch Uplink
Replies: 18
Views: 5608

Re: Cloud Router Switch Uplink

/interface bridge filter add action=drop chain=forward in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 I'd suspect this kills performance for the CRS, cause as soon as you use interfaces as non switch port, everything is done in software.... I suspect your right but if I still get close too 1gbps out of...
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:08 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Cloud Router Switch Uplink
Replies: 18
Views: 5608

Re: Cloud Router Switch Uplink

I put all interfaces in same bridge group then did this. /interface bridge filter add action=drop chain=forward in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 Beautiful, yes ... I misunderstood you. I'd suspect this kills performance for the CRS, cause as soon as you use interfaces as non switch port, ...
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:51 pm
Forum: General
Topic: RouterOS v6.6 released
Replies: 164
Views: 72993

Re: RouterOS v6.6 released

A new routing engine was announced for v6, but this has been posponed till v7, if I recall this correctly.
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:39 am
Forum: General
Topic: RouterOS v6.6 released
Replies: 164
Views: 72993

Re: RouterOS v6.6 released

so, currently there's no way to limit total amount of huge traffic on MikroTik devices?.. Queue tree - Interface HTB is the fastest one, HTB Global requires little bit more processing. regardless of whether htb is on interface or global, CCR cannot police/shape more than 600-800Mbps per queue inclu...
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:33 am
Forum: General
Topic: How to block android phone by hostame
Replies: 6
Views: 6986

Re: How to block android phone by hostame

Won't help him, as the user changes his MAC. Like normis said, only thing is WPA2 setup or key change...
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:30 am
Forum: General
Topic: DHCP ARP issue
Replies: 5
Views: 1631

Re: DHCP ARP issue

Yes, you should open a ticket for this in any case. MT might be able to suggest a workaround, I don't have a good idea, you can't pin a NIC IRQ to a CPU on the CCR/Tilear architecture, can you?
by timberwolf
Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:35 pm
Forum: General
Topic: DHCP ARP issue
Replies: 5
Views: 1631

Re: DHCP ARP issue

Looks like a classical concurrency programming error to me, and not a DHCP server error. I guess the ARP code isn't synchronized correctly.
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:07 pm
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

My guess: They are working on a Routerboard based on a chip with hardware acceleration like the Cavium Octeon. That would me really nice :) I hope they do a better job than Ubiquiti with offloading tasks to the hardware. Actually ubnt did a nice job on it, at least by now. There were some problems ...
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:25 am
Forum: General
Topic: MTU FRAME SIZE
Replies: 4
Views: 1281

Re: MTU FRAME SIZE

by timberwolf
Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:06 am
Forum: General
Topic: How to block android phone by hostame
Replies: 6
Views: 6986

Re: How to block android phone by hostame

Won't help you much, especially if the user, which seems to be no noob, finds this theread. ;-)
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:50 am
Forum: General
Topic: Switch performance for RB2011
Replies: 1
Views: 455

Re: Switch performance for RB2011

A broadcast storm could easily congest the RB2011 CPU, this may cause your problem. However the real question is, what causes a broadcast storm in your network?
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:22 am
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

Like say there's normal forwarding (process switching), fast path (fast-switching), and then hardware fast path (CEF equivalent).
Just for accuracy, CEF is software fastpath on lower end devices and true hardware TCAM based forwarding on higher end devices.
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:44 pm
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

Call it a teaser.
I was "teased" by the CRS as this option showed up a a little bit earlier then 6.5. :-(
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:26 pm
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

it is the same thing. you simply have an option to turn it off. it will turn on by default, if the mentioned conditions are met. however, if for some reason you need it off, there is the option I think you misunderstood the question, there is a aoption for "Fastpath" and one for "Hw. (Hardware?) fa...
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:26 am
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

I suspect it's not the software upgrade which is problematic but more their configuration system which goes haywire.
Many bugs I've experienced without an update could be solved with netinstall...
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:56 am
Forum: General
Topic: What is Tools->Profile->SPI usage??
Replies: 18
Views: 9797

Re: What is Tools->Profile->SPI usage??

I never tried web caching on those systems as I was sure about the fact, that they are to weak for this anyway. ;-)
I would recommend using a cheap x86 box with lots of ram for caching. RB750, 450 and 493 are in my oppinion not suitable for this task.
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:49 am
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

Based on my experience the updates work best, when applied during a clean netinstall. I never had problems following this procedure, only when I updatet a running or configured system itself.
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:05 am
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

YES!!! And I ask you - stop releasing features (i do not need management Curiosity :lol: ), bug fix errors first, make a very stable product. I can't agree more! Either that or have two really seperated streams of development, not the current "we have a beta right before realease and that's it" sch...
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:31 pm
Forum: General
Topic: What is Tools->Profile->SPI usage??
Replies: 18
Views: 9797

Re: What is Tools->Profile->SPI usage??

Well NAT requires SPI aka connection tracking. But until MT comments on what SPI really means, we both stumble in the dark. :-)
Your web proxy doesn't use a microSD card for storage by any chance?
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:31 am
Forum: General
Topic: What is Tools->Profile->SPI usage??
Replies: 18
Views: 9797

Re: What is Tools->Profile->SPI usage??

You read my mind. when SPI eating CPU .... I was looking on our Border Firewall for Attack Kind of Sessions. I found NONE. So in my experience SPI joust activate himself .... without any exterior reason. I believe is something wrong in software, or something missing in software. (software means 5.6...
by timberwolf
Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:24 pm
Forum: General
Topic: What is Tools->Profile->SPI usage??
Replies: 18
Views: 9797

Re: What is Tools->Profile->SPI usage??

SPI can stand for Serial Peripheral Interface, that would match to LCD/Touchscreen on the RB2011 or SDcard for units with an appropriate slot, maybe even for the system flash.
It may also be Statefull Packet Inspection...
by timberwolf
Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:03 am
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

Tilera is a quite experimental platform, you have to rewrite your whole software to take adavantage of the small cores. NIC drivers, IP stack and firewall implementation are only the tip of the iceberg. I don't know a single company which succesfully dealt with this type of software. The only one w...
by timberwolf
Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:55 am
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

... So anybody who expected to use the CCR in a production environment in such a short timeframe can't seriously been working in networking for a long time. Or just hasn't the slightest idea of concurrency or software design in general. To defend MT, they told everybody, that the CCR is still in de...
by timberwolf
Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:00 pm
Forum: General
Topic: 6.5 released!
Replies: 185
Views: 69838

Re: 6.5 released!

Tilera is a quite experimental platform, you have to rewrite your whole software to take adavantage of the small cores. NIC drivers, IP stack and firewall implementation are only the tip of the iceberg. I don't know a single company which succesfully dealt with this type of software. The only one wh...
by timberwolf
Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:32 am
Forum: General
Topic: Does CRS125-24G support MPLS?
Replies: 10
Views: 2802

Re: Does CRS125-24G support MPLS?

I get my info from checking on which devices are layer 3 capable in ASICs vs which devices are layer 3 capable through a general purpose CPU. Look at the price differences between the two and you'll see that ASICs that route are NOT cheap. I will agree that the ASICs themselves aren't anywhere NEAR...
by timberwolf
Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:43 am
Forum: General
Topic: Does CRS125-24G support MPLS?
Replies: 10
Views: 2802

Re: Does CRS125-24G support MPLS?

Well normis, I really was hoping that the CRS would have some basic L3 routing capacity in hardware. I don't expect MT to come up with a full featured L3 high performance switch with enterprise features.
by timberwolf
Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:16 am
Forum: General
Topic: Does CRS125-24G support MPLS?
Replies: 10
Views: 2802

Re: Does CRS125-24G support MPLS?

Unfortunately, layer 3 routing ASICs are still.....super inflated in cost as one can make a LOOOOOOT of money off of them. That and they're pretty difficult to make. Sorry if I seem harsh, but where the hell do you get your infos from?! They aren't expensive anymore and also they aren't that diffic...
by timberwolf
Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:14 pm
Forum: General
Topic: CRS125-24G Routing questions
Replies: 2
Views: 796

Re: CRS125-24G Routing questions

Thanks for the info mrz. Hardware routing recently got very affordable with devices in the 100-200$ range, but only with 3 port devices, so I hoped MT would come up with something similar.
by timberwolf
Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:59 pm
Forum: General
Topic: CRS125-24G Routing questions
Replies: 2
Views: 796

CRS125-24G Routing questions

Hi MT,

does the CRS support any form of hardware based routing for IPv4/IPv6? Or is everything which isn't L2 switching handled by the ROS software as we are used to from the existing boards.

Cheers,
Jan
by timberwolf
Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:07 pm
Forum: Beginner Basics
Topic: MikroTik News October 2013 (Issue #51)
Replies: 14
Views: 6422

Re: MikroTik News October 2013 (Issue #51)

Availabillity for distributors and customer is one thing, the absolute lack of any information since the official anouncement in the newsletter another. I do not know if it will translate properly, but one wise man sad: "it better to spend time doing "the thing", that to spend time talking about do...
by timberwolf
Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:09 pm
Forum: Beginner Basics
Topic: MikroTik News October 2013 (Issue #51)
Replies: 14
Views: 6422

Re: MikroTik News October 2013 (Issue #51)

Availabillity for distributors and customer is one thing, the absolute lack of any information since the official anouncement in the newsletter another.
by timberwolf
Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:00 pm
Forum: Beginner Basics
Topic: MikroTik News October 2013 (Issue #51)
Replies: 14
Views: 6422

Re: MikroTik News October 2013 (Issue #51)

And still no sign of the once advertised Cloud Router Switch.... :(
I guess the CCRs are binding to many development ressources for anything else to be done.
by timberwolf
Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:52 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Disappearing firewall filter rules - problem
Replies: 9
Views: 2163

Re: Disappearing firewall filter rules - problem

Well there is an admin login via web, just before your settings magically get changed...
You did notice this, didn't you?
by timberwolf
Fri May 24, 2013 5:53 pm
Forum: General
Topic: v6.0 released
Replies: 321
Views: 68785

Re: v6.0 released

Timberwolf is right..... OSPF issue is happening with us also...... getting flapped automatically. Downgraded to ROS 5.24... I couldn't narrow down the cause by now, but it seem to be caused by short lineflaps or packet loss. So be carefull on unstable links. I am guessing that its either an error ...
by timberwolf
Wed May 22, 2013 1:20 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

We are not talking about 50%, we are talking about a factor of 10x or more. BIG DIFFERENCE. If what you say were true, then a task which would normally take about 1 second without a MetaROUTER guest running would take roughly 2 seconds with a MetaROUTER guest. I'm seeing 10-15 seconds! -- Nathan I ...
by timberwolf
Wed May 22, 2013 8:59 am
Forum: General
Topic: v6.0 released
Replies: 321
Views: 68785

Re: v6.0 released

NTP Client status isn't reflected in Winbox, always shows stopped although CLI states synchronized, 6.0 on x86
by timberwolf
Wed May 22, 2013 8:02 am
Forum: General
Topic: v6.0 released
Replies: 321
Views: 68785

Re: v6.0 released

I'm running a testing setup with OSPF and BGP all over L2TP, with 5.25 no problems. With 6.0 OSPF is behaving quite strange with messages like may/21 20:27:24 route,ospf,info OSPFv2 neighbor 10.42.1.104: state change from ExStart to 2-Way may/21 20:28:05 route,ospf,info OSPFv2 neighbor 10.42.1.104: ...
by timberwolf
Fri May 17, 2013 8:21 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

New issue: presence of a MetaROUTER on 5.25 can cause host in certain cases to take much longer to complete tasks than it normally would. Example: I added a new MetaROUTER to a 450G that a customer had. Instantly, CPU on 450G shot up to 100% and stayed there until I disabled the MetaROUTER. Profile...
by timberwolf
Thu May 16, 2013 2:04 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Nathan, just to be sure, you are talking about a OpenWRT MetaROUTER or a ROS MetaROUTER?
I'll have to try and reproduce this with a ROS MetaROUTER.
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:21 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Just a quick update on the ROS MR front.
I didn't have a single freeze or other issue since I installed 5.25rc1 on my RB450G and RB2011.
Although I didn't conduct any further tests, this feels pretty stable as for now. I will try to do some more elaborate tests if my time allows.
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:28 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I find it interesting, though, that in that thread, RB2011 are talked about as if they don't have any problems with MetaROUTER, even though I can easily reproduce the problem myself on my RB2011L-IN running 5.24. Different CPU? Im not into MIPS assembly but locking/pipelining might be a totally dif...
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:20 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: truly minimal packet-processing MetaROUTER image
Replies: 18
Views: 7256

Re: truly minimal packet-processing MetaROUTER image

Thanks NathanA for linking to this thread, I too think this is a interesting topic. Lots of thanks to majbthrd , as it really seems that your minimal two to three instruction images helped MikroTik to finally get a grip on their MetaROUTER hypervisor code. Nathan, although I concur with you opinion,...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:15 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Still looking good for me too, will upgrade another system soon. Keeping my fingers crossed, but it looks very promising this time.
by timberwolf
Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:30 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I started tests with 5.25rc1 on RB2011 a few hours ago, I am using the same test setup like before, so time will tell. It didn't hnag in the last 5h but I got that result before. So lets wait a little before we declare this fixed. Right now I was brave enough to also update a more important RB450G t...
by timberwolf
Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:11 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

please try these new buiilds: http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/routeros-mipsbe-5.25rc1.npk http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/all_files_5.25rc1.zip http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/routeros-mipsbe-6.0rc14.npk http://www.mikrotik.com/download/share/all_files_6.0rc14.zip they contain ...
by timberwolf
Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:22 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Hi Nathan,

thanks for also testing this. Using only MT Metarouter instances wasn't as bad as you described, but also practically unuasable. I also would have expected MT to test this...
And as this topic gets ignored by MT again...well, I won't repeat myself.
by timberwolf
Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:27 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I wonder why I'm not seeing this issue so far? ... ... Full disclosure: I still distrust the interrupt-crazy health monitoring subsystem on the 450G, so even on 5.22 and 5.23, I have been ripping out voltage.ko on any systems we deploy.... Well that is because it is most likely a faulty ISR which k...
by timberwolf
Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:00 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Has anyone tried to change power supply for RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN and tested its impact to MetaROUTER stability? Is it even possible to change it without losing warranty? This isn't even worth a try, as the MR issues clearly aren't powersupply dependent. But if you want to waste your time, like we all ...
by timberwolf
Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:44 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I guess this topic is an general hold again? Mikrotik, care to comment on current status?
by timberwolf
Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:08 am
Forum: General
Topic: Known issues or user error for L2TP and MLPPP?
Replies: 0
Views: 304

Known issues or user error for L2TP and MLPPP?

Hi all, before I take the step and open a bug with MikroTik support, I'd like to get forum feedback as it only concerns a testing setup and may therefore also be an user error. ;-) If I setup a L2TP link with mtu and mru set to 1452, I can pass packets(icmp ping) over that link with the expected siz...
by timberwolf
Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:01 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Well some fresh optimism in this thread can't do any harm. ;-)
by timberwolf
Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:40 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: question regarding vmware and KVM in ROS
Replies: 7
Views: 3800

Re: question regarding vmware and KVM in ROS

You can run KVM guests in ROS which istself is running as a VMware guest.
Depending on your VMware product (ESXi, Workstation, Fusion) you have to enable nested virtualization.
I can't dig up a link right now, but google should be useful given the keywords "nested virtualization" or "vhv".
by timberwolf
Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:09 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH
Replies: 42
Views: 14075

Re: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH

@payday please also refer to http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=60746
This is the place where you can provide help, we consolidated all the threads to this one.
Right now it's MTs turn.

@MT
Is it possible to lock down this thread, while pointing to the consolidated one?
by timberwolf
Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:40 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH
Replies: 42
Views: 14075

Re: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH

For mor uptodate info please refer to: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=60746
Metarouter isn't really stable, neither on MIPS-BE nor on PPC.
by timberwolf
Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:15 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Metarouter freezes when loading the base system more than 40-50 per cent.
...
We are not even at the point, where Metarouter works in an idle situation. So I guess it's no suprise that a freezes with load. ;-)
by timberwolf
Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:22 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

@MT
Any christmas presents planned? ;-)
by timberwolf
Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Fastpath bridge handler working with VLAN interfaces?
Replies: 5
Views: 2067

Re: Fastpath bridge handler working with VLAN interfaces?

Ok bridge fastpath isn't supported in conjuction with VLAN interfaces. MT Support just got back to me about this.
by timberwolf
Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:26 am
Forum: General
Topic: Fastpath bridge handler working with VLAN interfaces?
Replies: 5
Views: 2067

Re: Fastpath bridge handler working with VLAN interfaces?

Maybe , but who knows?
What kind of post is this supposed to be?
by timberwolf
Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:27 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I have also noticed that short (about 10 seconds) freeze of whole device (not only MetaRouters), many times yesterday, when using console a lot. Traffic is not forwarded during that break and console does not respond. I monitor some hosts behind MT router. Normally they are all green and when freez...
by timberwolf
Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:22 am
Forum: General
Topic: Rx Drops On Bridge
Replies: 6
Views: 2024

Re: Rx Drops On Bridge

I can confirm this on RB450G, RB750G, RB751G and RB2011. But I didn't notice any problems, maybe a display glitch?
by timberwolf
Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:16 am
Forum: General
Topic: Fastpath bridge handler working with VLAN interfaces?
Replies: 5
Views: 2067

Re: Fastpath bridge handler working with VLAN interfaces?

Any chance for an answer? normis, sergejs, janisk, anyone?
Next step would be to ask support, but I thought this simple question could be answered on the fly in the forum.
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: 6.0rc4 released!
Replies: 101
Views: 18498

Re: 6.0rc4 released!

I am still trying to get some more info about fastpath, especially if the bridge handler still allows bridge fastpath if the source and/or destination interface is a VLAN interface "below" a supported interfaces regarding this list: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Fast_Path#List_of_RouterBoards...
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:14 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

There is no change on mine, also. Problem persists.
Thanks for your verification effort! :)
by timberwolf
Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:25 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Ok janisk here come the results for the 5.22 release version. RB450G Got a freeze after about 5 hours, this time 11,9seconds, affecting the host and both MR instances, so no significant change, just -1second(luck?). RB2011UAS Still the same strange behaviour I got with 5.22rc1. Host froze for about ...
by timberwolf
Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:02 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Good sounds promising. I will retest with 5.22 as soon as it is available, as I happen to have some spare time at the moment.
by timberwolf
Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:44 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Thank you for the additional information.
I have one question left for now, you talk about crashes, what about those freezes which I've even seen on a RB2011UAS?
by timberwolf
Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:55 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

atm - I'd say - less likely to happen. No problematic events on debug metarouter have happened for a long time. At le
Hmm "less likely", what's the developers point of view? No offense, but this sounds like "we have no idea if we did fix it", don't you agree? ;-)
by timberwolf
Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:57 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Are you indicating, that you might have fixed it?
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:55 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Fastpath bridge handler working with VLAN interfaces?
Replies: 5
Views: 2067

Re: Fastpath bridge handler and VLANs

@MT / normis
Any feedback?
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:58 am
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: CLOUD CORE ROUTER
Replies: 1374
Views: 1017310

Re: CLOUD CORE ROUTER

we are working on "fast path" for firewall too. we will publish more detailed tests in a few weeks
This is this
but tell me its not only for Cloud Core Router?
I don't think so ;-) see http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Fast_Path
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:31 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

timberwolf - during weekend and national holiday i have generated quite a lot of useful stuff for devs to work on regarding metarouter.
Thanks, I must admit, right now I'm quite disappointed that RB2011 isn't working either. :-(
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:29 am
Forum: General
Topic: v6rc3 released
Replies: 92
Views: 27900

Re: v6rc3 released

I'm trying to repeat my question regarding fastpath support here:
@MT
Does the fastpath bridge handler still get utilized if using VLAN interfaces from a supported ethernet interface in the bridge?
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:03 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Will it be fixed? Or am I doing something wrong?
To keep the answer short, we all hope it will be fixed anytime soon as it is an open issue since 2 years(if I'm not mistaken). And no I'am quite sure you aren't doing anything wrong.
by timberwolf
Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Fastpath bridge handler working with VLAN interfaces?
Replies: 5
Views: 2067

Fastpath bridge handler working with VLAN interfaces?

Does the fastpath bridge handler still get utilized if using VLAN interfaces from a supported ethernet port in the bridge?
by timberwolf
Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:55 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

In the meantime I started conducting the exact same tests with a RB2011UAS-RM but with the following modifications: 1.) ROS 5.21 2.) Host an MRs use static IPs 3.) Host runs NTP client On first sight, I got the same freezes after just 4 hours but with differing packet losses and timeouts,to rule out...
by timberwolf
Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:06 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

EDIT: Merged post with next post.
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Roadmap for advanced fastpath features
Replies: 3
Views: 1810

Re: Roadmap for advanced fastpath features

Yes, firewall fastpath is planned as well.
Yes I understood. I was more thinking about you sharing some of you plans with us, like other features which may be planned beside firewall or maybe even which firewall functionality is planned.
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:22 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Memory Leak & Drivers Missing on RB1200
Replies: 7
Views: 2192

Re: Memory Leak & Drivers Missing on RB1200

Please don't just rely on the forum when reporting bugs. Also send an error report and supout to the MikroTik support.
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:19 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Roadmap for advanced fastpath features
Replies: 3
Views: 1810

Roadmap for advanced fastpath features

Question for MikroTik Team:

Is there a Roadmap available for the advanced fastpath features? For example planned availabillity for fastpath firewall/acl and set of other planned features.
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:10 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Hmm your are right with your 38k ticks, I made a mistake in my calculation. Never do math aber 10:00pm ;-) I will come back to you, as soon as get this 32bit counter thing figured out correctly. EDIT: Is there any chance, that you use a 32bit integer as a timestamp with microsecond accuracy? Cause w...
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:38 am
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: Wi-fi without antenna
Replies: 13
Views: 1864

Re: Wi-fi without antenna

The connectors are to small to attache a simple wire, and without any deeper knowledge you wouldn't get teh impedance right anyway.
Sorry, you really must use an antenna, otherwise you will definitely damage your card within seconds(depending on output power).
by timberwolf
Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:10 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

off, to test some metarotuers. Thank you for details of your setup. I wish you luck. The bug seems to be related to the scheduling of the hypervisor I think. An overflow (maybe with interrupt) seems to "wake" the scheduler up after the normal tick has been somehow blocked. Your devs should be able ...
by timberwolf
Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:27 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

how often these happen? It now happened once in 24h . can you describe configuration, mine was like this: 1 metarouter running with 1 dynamic vif and 1 static vif interface. both bridged with physical port. in network only usual broadcast chatter. No freezes so far. The complete config without any ...
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:28 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I am sorry, but i have to report the 12 second hang as still NOT fixed. Still exactly the same behaviour like in 5.21rc2 and 5.21, whole system freezes for 12 seconds and resumes afterwards like nothing happened. Therefore I request MT to finally provide an image without hardware monitoring for test...
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:55 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

first ppc metarouter has to start work, and resolve issues there, maybe afterwards someone will make this cosmetic change.
Understandable ;)
by timberwolf
Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:38 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

unfortunately due to how metarouter operates (one of my older posts in this thread) health monitoring values can be off the mark.
Yes I know, that's why me and other people recommended disabling health monitoring completely. ;-)
by timberwolf
Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:24 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

over last week a lot of work went into metarotuer on mips. It would be really nice if you could try and see if this still hangs/freezes for you. I ran tests over the weekend (55hours) and did not get eny problems. So if any of you can put it somewhere, that would be highly appretiated. Here the lin...
by timberwolf
Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:12 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Bad part is - it took week to manifest itself. Anyway, "blackout period was those 12 seconds.
I took about 3-4 hours on my setup.
Did you have one or several guests running?
Two, as I wrote earlier.
by timberwolf
Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:39 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

about mips metarouter - i had a moment where response time was 12129.041ms so we will look into it. As we now know that there still is some issue that can happen rarely
Oh really? Of course there is an issue! What cause do you think I would have for making this up?!
by timberwolf
Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:07 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Ok I see where this is heading, again.
Well that's it, I'm done with MetaROUTER, MikroTik do whatever you want. I'm not paid for testing.
by timberwolf
Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:43 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Just got an 12second hang :-( The host and all MR(which seems logical) froze in that time. Still the same simple test setup with no load. EDIT: All ICMP requests got answered after this time, however. this happened once or you could make it happen more than once? Also, could you post build date and...
by timberwolf
Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:59 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I see.. maybe those are spurious interrupts ? Could you test regular load as I said? If those interrupts were noise induced, maybe you can somehow get the same results without metarouter ? It is possible that removing the voltage.ko module actually means that interrupts on some gpio line(s) are mas...
by timberwolf
Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:50 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I've startetd some simple tests right now. One thing I did notice immediatly: The health values now are a little crazy, my voltage reading now jumps from 12 to 14 to 20 Volts randomly and the temperature readings jump from 58 to 68 randomly ;-) janisk, could you provide a little insight on how the ...
by timberwolf
Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:39 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Just got an 12second hang :-( The host and all MR(which seems logical) froze in that time. Still the same simple test setup with no load. EDIT: All ICMP requests got answered after this time, however. MT I beg you to give us the option to turn off health monitoring so we could at least try without v...
by timberwolf
Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:14 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I've startetd some simple tests right now. One thing I did notice immediatly: The health values now are a little crazy, my voltage reading now jumps from 12 to 14 to 20 Volts randomly and the temperature readings jump from 58 to 68 randomly ;-) janisk, could you provide a little insight on how the h...
by timberwolf
Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:39 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

NathanA,

I admire your optimism, but lets wait a few days. ;-)
Lets hope the effects barkas is seeing aren't somehow related to MR fixes, but just the side product of some other RC1 changes.


Jan
by timberwolf
Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:39 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Version 5.21 RC1 is this correct?
The last version also was RC1.
by timberwolf
Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:16 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

you should consider how many steps can be done when ICMP echo travels from one guest to another. And if packet is not processed in one time-slice (it arrives at the end) how long it can be delayed. Ok, then lets try some math: I have running 3 tasks: 1 host and 2 guests Each task gets arround 3,33m...
by timberwolf
Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:55 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

janisk Thank you very much for sharing those details with us. With this knowledge we shouldn't see that much jitter in an unloaded system if each task gets a 1/300s timeshare. Your devs might whant to check if the health monitoring ISR code disables interrupts globally and if there is a race conditi...
by timberwolf
Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:53 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Thank you for your investigation Nathan, I can't afford time for tests right now.
This once again shows, that the core problem seems to be interrupt handling.
by timberwolf
Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:55 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Fair enough, then they don't use tun/tap. As you say, getting <10ms latency with that would be impossible with HZ_100. But metarouter still needs to run inside a thread at least. That means it needs to sleep and can 'wake up' at 100Hz at most. If you send it icmp request just before it wakes up, th...
by timberwolf
Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:19 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Well guy1with1mr1problems, some comments then: 1.) I am getting 1ms latency to a MR, which wouldn't be possible with 100Hz polling frequency at all. 2.) Ever heard of of interrupt controllers which might be able to trigger software interrupts? Have a look at the "active" interrupts when you run one ...
by timberwolf
Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:19 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I got those 60ms while running two idling MR instances, most of the pings where at arroung 1-2ms. Also the host responded in about 1ms to external pings. I don't think this variance is caused by load but by the same problem which causes the system to freeze up. I'm still hilding my theorie that this...
by timberwolf
Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:13 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

my explanation is about variable ping times when ICMP echo is sent from MR to itself or other MR. Of course, 60ms is excessive, but as i understand, that happens rarely.
Well it happens frequently, 60ms is an extreme value but 14-30ms seem to happen quite often.
by timberwolf
Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:18 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

AFAIK since a lot of stuff is happening in OS all the time, and guest and host has to do these things all the time, so each gets time-slice when to do stuff. If ping comes in wrong time it can miss current time-slice and get to the other one, hence the deviation. Could be, but 60ms seems to big, I ...
by timberwolf
Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:21 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Nathan, did you test if those freezes also happen when running ROS based MetaROUTERS? I didn't notice them by now, but I only run 2 ROS instances. EDIT: Ok, I can confirm your observation, I got random hangs of 4-5 seconds which recovered themself withou watchdog intervention. So I also conclude: mu...
by timberwolf
Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:11 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I noted two things: 1.) The MR Console in Winbox freezes after a while with no impact on the MR itself. 2.) Ping roundtrip time is a little strange: -Host to MR is usually 1ms -MR to Host also usually 1m -MR to MR is usually 2ms -Sometimes all those roundtrip times goe up to 10,30 or sometimes even...
by timberwolf
Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:27 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I started the tests yesterday at arround 18:00 CEST. They are still running(I hope). ;-)
by timberwolf
Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:53 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

I conducted some simple tests, so far it looks very promising. I did a very simple setup for now: 1 bridge in host with a single IPv4 address. 2 Metarouters, each with a dynamic interface on that bridge and single IPv4 address. I then pinged: - Each MR from the host in a Winbox Terminal - The host f...
by timberwolf
Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:09 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Thanks for the update, I will test as soon as my time allows.
by timberwolf
Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:12 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

PS.: I just read this thread from the beginning...I had no idea MetaROUTER can affect the whole router. Does Atheros SoC have a MMU? Why is it possible to crash hypervisor with a guest? Because MetaROUTER isn't a hypervisor based virtualization environment. Judging from the patches, it's more like ...
by timberwolf
Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:09 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Is anyone still believing that MikroTik has NOT given up on MetaRouter?
by timberwolf
Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:20 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Thats why they talked about "soon" and are ignoring any request for comment in this thread.
Sure...
by timberwolf
Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:23 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

In 3 days exactly one month passed without any news on progress. So its relatively safe to assume that MT is back to the old habit of ignoring this problem altogether for maybe another year or so.
What a shame.
by timberwolf
Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:20 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

Lets not get to OT in this thread, which is about stabillity issues with the MetaROUTER feature itself.
Which by now still aren't fixed even on some PPC boards.

So MT staff, what about news? You claimed to be able to provide a fix "soon" on june 19.
by timberwolf
Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:12 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

MT claims to be close to a fix, have a look here: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=60746
by timberwolf
Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:38 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

janisk
Any news? Are any fixes/changes implemented in ROS 5.18? The changelog doesn't mention MR related fixes, so I didn't try on my own.
by timberwolf
Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:27 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

hopefully soon enough you (obviously not days) will not need to do that any more to run MetaROUTER on RB450G
Any update or rough estimate you could give us?
by timberwolf
Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:34 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

For future readers: that means mounting the yaffs2 filesystem of router os (I used openwrt running from RAM booted over network.) and renaming the 'voltage.ko' module. This worked like a charm for some reason ! It is now running for about a day and requesting phpinfo() from an embedded apache + php...
by timberwolf
Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:52 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

currently rRB540G status is unchanged - there is unresolved problem. Ok, so you don't think it would be worth gathering some results from the field, with disabled hardware monitoring? RB2011 can be added here if you wish so. I have added similar setup as on RB1100AH for RB2011 without any packet lo...
by timberwolf
Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:32 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Hyper-V now totally broken?
Replies: 14
Views: 6514

Re: Hyper-V now totally broken?

Actually I assume yes, MIkrotik should IF they test test against new versions now, too. See, thep roblem is: this is the release candidate. When do you find out oyou have a problem - once the **it hits the fan (i.e. the release is out?). Sounds like a really piss the customer off attitude - IF this...
by timberwolf
Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:06 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Hyper-V now totally broken?
Replies: 14
Views: 6514

Re: Hyper-V now totally broken?

Now you tell me it is not valid to test RouterOS on a new coming Hyper-Visor generation? THAT Is a new one, seriously. In my eyes NOW is the time to nail that down and see who is at fault here - so that possibly a ticket can be opened with Microsoft. You assume that MikroTik tests against this new ...
by timberwolf
Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:19 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Hyper-V now totally broken?
Replies: 14
Views: 6514

Re: Hyper-V now totally broken?

Sanity Well first of all stop insulting people who try to help; the only one acting religious here is you. From my point of view you have two options: 1.) Stop using prerelease version of microsoft operating systems for production use. Then maybe one might be willing and able to help you. I assume ...
by timberwolf
Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:03 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

janisk
Two questions, should we include RB2011 in this thread and whats the status for RB450G/MIPSBE?
by timberwolf
Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:20 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

On PPC it somehow sounds like some receive DMA function goes crazy, maybe some setup error or memory overflow/allocation error? janisk Still no updates for MIPSBE/RB450G? How hard can it be to at least build a testing release for us to try and provide feedback to you? By now already two forum member...
by timberwolf
Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:36 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

ferywu
Thanks for your effort, but modifying npk files is outside the scope of this thread and not in MTs interest I guess.
We want an official supported MT solution not an unsupported work-around.
by timberwolf
Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:01 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC bo

janisk What about packages for a RB450G with hardware monitoring(voltage.ko) disabled? I would invest some time to test those on my RB450G boards, maybe barkas would also try, AFAIK he has still a ticket open about this issue. You would then get some more feedback outside your own test setup. I agr...
by timberwolf
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:59 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE boards

So a short summary at this point in the thread. MIPSBE ------- We did various tests on RB450G boards, most of them were conducted by NathanA. The conclusions for this board so far are: 1.) The powersupply does have an influence but isn't the cause. 2.) Disabling hardware monitoring by a hack seems t...
by timberwolf
Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:39 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE boards

I am always open to discussions, You can keep the topic title as you like, I just thought it was a better name. The goal of this technical forum is solve issues and keep to the technical aspects of networking. I did choose the title very carefully and the around 4000 views and 4 pages of posts seem...
by timberwolf
Thu May 31, 2012 6:21 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on (MIPSBE/RB450G) MetaROUTER?

I just received the following warning from normis: This is a warning regarding the following post made by you: viewtopic.php?f=15&p=319494#p319494 I'm sorry but the thread title is misleading, JanisK is trying to help, and the issue is nearly resolved now. As I am not allowed to answer this message,...
by timberwolf
Wed May 30, 2012 11:34 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER questions

It's possible that the general interrupt servicer was actually written by the SoC manufacturer, or a contractor of the manufacturer, and not MikroTik directly...I could be wrong. But I note that the IRQ code for the RB500 SoC has a copyright notice by an embedded systems software company on it. Per...
by timberwolf
Wed May 30, 2012 4:32 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: MetaROUTER questions

First I would like to state, that I am not pleased by the fact that MikroTik changed the Subject line of this thread! EDIT: And I therefore restored the original subject. NathanA Great work, I think I know what you did. ;-) I am a little disappointed that you had to come up with this and that MT cou...
by timberwolf
Wed May 30, 2012 9:55 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

i will try locally without monitoring turned off, as it is not that easy to make npk with that change.
Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. How could you try without turning monitoring off, when the test would be to actually turn monitoring off?
by timberwolf
Mon May 28, 2012 6:27 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

some time there where a question about what GPIO is - it is used for health monitoring (voltage and temperature) janisk Have you and the devs tried disabling all functions/drivers using GPIO, to see if it makes a difference? There have been some reports of strange voltage and temperature readings i...
by timberwolf
Sat May 26, 2012 2:15 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

So why not try to work on the problem? I totally agree with you on the potential of MR. But to keep my answer short, WE are not working on the problem, we are fumbling arround, providing information to MT without getting anywhere. And as long as I don't get any proof that MT is working on the probl...
by timberwolf
Sat May 26, 2012 10:13 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

NathanA , thank you very much for putting that much effort into this. I may try 400MHz@12V if my time allows, but I am not very tempted to do so at the moment. This is because, even if the behavior changes it still won't help me or others having problems with this board. The only who can contribute...
by timberwolf
Fri May 25, 2012 4:20 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

I will pull a couple more RB450Gs out of stock and replace the one I'm currently using with a different one, and see if stability varies from board to board. Thanks, last idea I got. :( Without any further words from MT, I by now doubt that I will ever run a MR on one of my RB450G boards, which is ...
by timberwolf
Thu May 24, 2012 10:47 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH
Replies: 42
Views: 14075

Re: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH

lordzar I am a bit puzzled, you say you have MR running stable for a year, yet you talk about ROS 5.11 and 5.16. ROS 5.11 was released december 2011, ROS 5.16 just a few weeks ago. Yould please go into detail about this debugging feature a little more also? With all this workarounds, I wouldn't cal...
by timberwolf
Wed May 23, 2012 7:38 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

Ok, I can confirm the behaviour barkas is seeing, still reboots. :-( And that even with nothing more than pings running from the MR to the outside. So maybe barkas and I got boards which are more on the weak side than that from NathanA. That would be 2 boards for me and one for barkas that won't be ...
by timberwolf
Thu May 17, 2012 9:06 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

I had to rebuild my system located at the datacenter, so I just setup the RB450G located there with a very minimal configuration. The powersupply at this location outputs 12V to the RB450G and an Alix 2c3, the RB450G reports 13V. At this moment there is only a single MR running with one dynamic vif....
by timberwolf
Thu May 17, 2012 1:36 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: SFP module
Replies: 100
Views: 57573

Re: SFP module

The SFPs datasheet might provide some insight, as there are modules which act as a media translator.
I didn't work with those, mainly with 1/10 Gigabit SX and LX SFPs and some "little" larger OC-768/STM-256 tranceivers(1OC768-POS-SR ).
by timberwolf
Thu May 17, 2012 11:50 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB2011 + Metarouter
Replies: 15
Views: 9203

Re: RB2011 + Metarouter

describe weird. I have metarotuer running on RB2011L w/o weird problems. I was referring to the report of ropebih . As long as noone else reports in this issue, it might be a special problem for his configuration. I won't try it myself, as no RB2011 with enough RAM worth trying is available. Slight...
by timberwolf
Thu May 17, 2012 11:45 am
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: SFP module
Replies: 100
Views: 57573

Re: SFP module

I disagree - SerDes have nothing to do with the actual link establishment between 2 modules, it kicks in only after. SerDes 8B/10B is the reason why 1,25Gbps SFP only handles 1Gbps of actual traffic 1.25 GBps is just the electrical bandwidth of the tranceiver electronics. 1) RJ45 modules can be 10/...
by timberwolf
Wed May 16, 2012 8:31 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: SFP module
Replies: 100
Views: 57573

Re: SFP module

Link speed negotiation is up to transceivers not the cage implementation on the board. SerDes functionality and therefore linkspeed negotiation usually is the business of the host system, not the optical tranceiver. The SFP MSA doesn't specify any data rates AFAIK. So are you sure about this, any s...
by timberwolf
Wed May 16, 2012 8:18 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB2011 + Metarouter
Replies: 15
Views: 9203

Re: RB2011 + Metarouter

When Metarouter on this new RB with a new generation CPU also acts weird, then maybe not everything is lost, because this more sound like a software issue then.
Or, what would be very unsatisfying, the powersupply or other hardware on this board is also insufficient for higher loads.
by timberwolf
Sun May 13, 2012 10:05 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

his sytem has ROS 5.6 and a single additional metarouter environment operating, with a non-ROS, OpenWRT system running our application in it. i do not remember an unexplained wathcog restart (or detected freeze) of this configuration. This particular environment seems quite stable for us. It has sh...
by timberwolf
Thu May 03, 2012 8:15 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

janisk
Thank you for the update. Please keep us posted.
since rb433AH and RB540G has the same CPU and one is supposed to crash and other is not
all Can you confirm this? I can't recall it exactly, but I think there where negative reports for RB433AH too.
by timberwolf
Wed May 02, 2012 4:04 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

This is what I'm concerned about, but even moreso, that it is only happening (so far) on the AH. Truly makes me wonder if there is something wrong with this specific AH. Has anybody ever tried replacing the stock heat pad on the CPU with something like Arctic Silver 5? Is it worth the hassle? I don...
by timberwolf
Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:24 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

sergejs janisk
Any news to report from the MT developers?
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:43 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB2011 Announcement ?
Replies: 135
Views: 24002

Re: RB2011 Announcement ?

You mean this? http://img.routerboard.com/pricelist/272_hi_res.png Or you mean block diagram? I mean a block diagram, like we have for the RB450G switch "features" and topology. :-) Where did you see a block diagram for RB450G ? Sorry, I must have mixed that up somehow. I was thinking about those d...
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:11 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB2011 Announcement ?
Replies: 135
Views: 24002

Re: RB2011 Announcement ?

You mean this? http://img.routerboard.com/pricelist/272_hi_res.png

Or you mean block diagram?
I mean a block diagram, like we have for the RB450G switch "features" and topology. :-)
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:00 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB2011 Announcement ?
Replies: 135
Views: 24002

Re: RB2011 Announcement ?

The 5 Gigabit Ports and the SFP ports are connected to an external switch chip, Atheros 83xx?
My RB2011 tells that it has two switches: ar8327 and ar8227. Not sure how those are wired however.
I am still hoping that there will someday be a picture in the Wiki. ;-)
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:56 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB2011 Announcement ?
Replies: 135
Views: 24002

Re: RB2011 Announcement ?

All of them are real interfaces! When I say "real interface" I usually talk about a dedicated MAC+PHY combination or NIC. Not necessarily the logical representation inside ROS. CPU has 1GBit channel to the 100Mbit interfaces, and one 1Gbit channel to the switch chip. So the CPU itself has two real ...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:20 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB2011 Announcement ?
Replies: 135
Views: 24002

Re: RB2011 Announcement ?

you assumption is wrong, SFP and Gigabit ports (total of 6 ports) are all connected through switch chip. 100Mbit ports are connected directly to CPU. This is because of CPU design. Thank you for your answer, a few questions remain however. ;-) Ok so we have 6 Gigabit Ports on a switch chip with an ...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:53 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB2011 Announcement ?
Replies: 135
Views: 24002

Re: RB2011 Announcement ?

Looking at the PCB pictures, it seems like the FastEthernet ports are connected to a switch chip, and the GigabitEthernet ports directly to the CPU. Could you please outline the topology a bit more? Are those GigabitEthernet ports connected to dedicated CPU interfaces or an CPU internal switch? How...
by timberwolf
Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:07 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

the difference is - hardware watchdog will reboot device always, while software watchdog can lock up,.That is why all recent product series use hardware watchdog.
If I get this correct, then Nathans RB1100AH shouldn't have locked up completely, as he had the watchdog enabled, right?
by timberwolf
Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:30 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

...but recalling my initial tests with MR on this RB450G board, I got crashes every minute(!). ...how do the capacitors look on your board? I conducted the tests with the board fresh out of the bag, the caps all looked good, like one would expect for a brand new board. I can check them friday if I ...
by timberwolf
Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:07 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

running tests on RB450G - with 28V PSU and 800MHz and 680MHz it crashes if metarouter is enabled. running tcp BT to itself at full speed. Metarouter has static, dynamic and hardware port assigned. Older boards are working without any problem. Without MR, it ran without problems, even at 28V and 800...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:42 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

janisk if I would know more about the dc/dc converter design and topology MT implemented at the RB450G, than I could possibly help. Otherwise it is impossible to come to any conclusion on the relationship of input voltage and the capacitors, as those should sit at the output side of the dc/dc conve...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:04 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

That might be that they "don't know how to fix it", but I don't believe it is from a lack of effort on their part. Given the past and recent posts and their "tone" from janisk I really can't be sure about that. We don't know what they actually did, that's all one can say. I would be extremely sad i...
by timberwolf
Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:06 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

I would read my posts more carefully. What I said was that I suspected my PPC crashes on the 1100AH were due to me overclocking the CPU; I suspected this because the behavior of PPC when crashing/rebooting was different than what I was seeing on MIPS/450G. I have since put the 1100AH back down to t...
by timberwolf
Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:37 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

Thanks to all, for joining in on this topic! I am in a big project right now, so I can't contribute that much. As it shows MR isn't even stable on PPC and it seems Nathan is right about the powersupply. What still doesn't fit, is the fact that we can't get a RB crash with high load not related to MR...
by timberwolf
Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:22 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

After 2 - 3 yers since these boards where given to me - capacitors went bad, after re-soldering - no crashes
I did put quite some load with encryption on my RB450G some time ago, no crashes, so this somehow doesn't quite fit.
by timberwolf
Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:18 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

I have two RB450G, one at home and one hosted at a datacenter. The one at the datacenter is hardwired to a quite good 24V PSU, and did crash really often with MR, but this is a brand new board. I can't test with this board in the near future, and swapping the PSU isn't an option too. The RB450G at h...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:06 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

BTW, over 3 days of uptime now on mine. I'm telling you: this power supply has made it stable. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd put this into production...if it were going to crash again, it'd have done it by now. I would be happy, if I could report the same, 3hours was all I got, and not even with some lo...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:01 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

How could it be a SoC issue? It's the exact same part/silicon that's on the 433AH.
Yes the same part, but not the same setup regarding connections to a switch chip and amount of RAM etc.
And I am not even sure, if it is the exact same part and not just the same CPU with a different SoC setup.
by timberwolf
Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:33 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

Hmm this isn't good. :-( Could mean that there is a hardware glitch inside the SoC/CPU or a design glitch on the board. Both cases would mean, that we won't see an fix.
by timberwolf
Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:05 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

...But my experience thus far still won't allow me to completely rule it out. Mine has been up for 20 hours now and counting. I haven't been able to get this kind of uptime with the original power supply ever... Well that is the point, using the same powersupply and configuration, I had uptimes bet...
by timberwolf
Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:45 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

OK, as I was expecting, changing the powersupply from 24V to 12V doesn't really help, my RB450G just did reboot.
I think we can once and for all rule out the PSU ;-)
by timberwolf
Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:50 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

Mine is at 51°c, 16.4V and has rebooted 4 times in the last 24 hours. No answer to my ticket yet. I just hooked up mine to a lab supply, which far exceeds the value of the RB450G, and get a reading of 12.4V at 12V input. Will see if that changes aything. I'am just creating 4 MetaRouters with basica...
by timberwolf
Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:25 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

Well temperature could indeed have an influence, the two posibillities I could see are: 1.) If it is a glitch in the interrupt controller, which means a hardware design bug inside the Atheros SoC. 2.) An overtemp shutdown- or controlmechanism, which we could check if those damn datasheets where avai...
by timberwolf
Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:54 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

I have no idea, how the powersupply could have an influence on this although some seams to exists.
by timberwolf
Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:50 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: Gigabit port compatibility?
Replies: 12
Views: 2170

Re: Gigabit port compatibility?

I have used Gigabit links between a RB450G and Cisco2960, 3com/HP 1910, HP1810 etc. without any troubles.
What gigabit switch did you use which caused trouble, you don't state this...
by timberwolf
Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:28 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

So if I understand you correctly: in other words, the presence of the hundreds/sec interrupt requests does not directly cause the problem but merely increases the likelihood/chances that you will trigger the race condition and experience this bug, right? It happens way, way less often on boards tha...
by timberwolf
Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:40 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

Whatever it is and even if those 200 interrupts per second are necessary, the bug quite sure isn't the caused by the pure existence of those requests. The problem is either caused by the involved ISR(interrupt service routines) or the interrupt controller of the CPU itself. In most cases it's a simp...
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:16 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

...time will tell... :? Sure, but for myself, I am 99,99% percent sure, that this is the cause. I hunted such issues down quite often, so I got a feel for it. ;-) The other question is, will MikroTik be able to fix it. There are a few scenarios, which might prove difficult to fix. I wonder what Mik...
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:02 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

When the router freezes up at random for 1-2 minutes with a MetaRouter guest running, *the console is also nonresponsive*. So if I try to type something out on the serial console, nothing gets echoed back to me. But if I wait and watch the console when it finally "unfreezes" itself, everything that...
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:49 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

...if you are running script inside router, that does something inside router every second, it works, same goes for script running in guest, no matter RouterOS or OpenWRT, it is running after the freeze as if nothing has happened. Well you can't be sure if it really runs during the freeze or just c...
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:01 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

janisk Then how do you explain the troubles I and many others are having? It's not like we pick routers which are faulty, just to show you guys off. And there still aren't any reports from users which use MR without troubles even on the PPC plattform. It's quite normal that negative reports take a ...
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:11 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

janisk
Which packages where installed and what do you suggest?
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:11 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH
Replies: 42
Views: 14075

Re: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH

RB450G is really good. i have used it. i think you should go for it.
No it isn't, RB450G ist actually the worst board for MR.
There are enough threads in this subforum about this topic.
by timberwolf
Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:08 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

sergejs Sorry I am not quite sure what I had posted back then and what not. But what I did was as simple as following: 1.) Netinstall RB450G which the following packages: routerboard, system, security, advanced-tools, routing, ppp, ntp 2.) Configure Name of RB450G 3.) Create a MR with 32MB RAM and ...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:53 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

go and read through my replies in these threads. all information has been delivered to the developers and different configuration retested over and over again. take RB433AH and run metarouter there. Well that's exactly the kind of answer I was expecting, thanks for nothing. And of course there are ...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:34 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

sergejs Please bring yourself up to date by starting reading at this post: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=282770#p282770 We wen't through all sorts of tests, with even the simplest setup MetaROUTER isn't usable on a RB450G. I/We simply can't afford to do all this tests all over again... ...
by timberwolf
Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:04 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

Re: Has MikroTik given up on MetaROUTER?

MetaROUTER is working fine for many customer in different setups. Could you please give more information about your problem? We will appreciate to receive detailed problem description and attached support output file to support (support@mikrotik.com) from you. We will try our best to solve your iss...
by timberwolf
Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:07 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: RB2011 Announcement ?
Replies: 135
Views: 24002

Re: RB2011 Announcement ?

Looking at the PCB pictures, it seems like the FastEthernet ports are connected to a switch chip, and the GigabitEthernet ports directly to the CPU. Could you please outline the topology a bit more? Are those GigabitEthernet ports connected to dedicated CPU interfaces or an CPU internal switch? How ...
by timberwolf
Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:40 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards
Replies: 490
Views: 123530

MetaROUTER stability issues on certain MIPSBE and PPC boards

As there aren't any news on the metarouter stabillity to report, it more and more seems as MT has given up on MR. Personally I worked arround the usage of MRs by using dedicated hardware, and, besides the usual MT software quality issues now and then, everything is well. Maybe the most effective way...
by timberwolf
Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:05 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: New Products at the MUM Poland
Replies: 43
Views: 17514

Re: New Products at the MUM Poland

I guess this router will be based on the Tilera TILE-Gx8036 CPU, which includes 16 SGMII Interfaces and is supported by Linux. But if MT just throws their current software at this CPU, I bet we wont see any impressive performance. If however MT designs a new stack and network framework, then we migh...
by timberwolf
Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: v5.13 released
Replies: 64
Views: 8354

Re: v5.13 released

@all Password bug found: If you change your password using /password to lets say "foo$bar". Then "foo" will be set as the new password. MT has f****d up the string processing somewhere. this is caused by Mikrotik scripting expecting a variable after "$". This will not happen if you use dollar sign ...
by timberwolf
Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:11 am
Forum: General
Topic: v5.13 released
Replies: 64
Views: 8354

Re: v5.13 released

@all
Password bug found:

If you change your password using /password to lets say "foo$bar".
Then "foo" will be set as the new password.
MT has f****d up the string processing somewhere.
by timberwolf
Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: v5.13 released
Replies: 64
Views: 8354

Re: v5.13 released

Oh you MT guys are just so great! Just installed a 450G and a 750G with netinstall and version 5.13. After setting a new password both systems won't allow logging in with the new password and of course the old password either. I always wanted a feature like that. EDIT: Just tested ist again over ser...
by timberwolf
Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:15 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

I wonder, if by any chance, one of the MetaRouter developers could chime in here and contribute something usefull or at least interesting...
by timberwolf
Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:27 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

So, your saying MR in general on all platforms including PPC platform? And you're not agree on the statement? : http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&p=302311#p301963 Tweaking your configuration until the system runs stable isn't a solution. At best that's a workarround and nothing you let y...
by timberwolf
Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:32 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

Timberwolf, so your opinion is not to use MR at all, at least not until a stable version is available? ;)
Yes, that is exactly my opinion.
And my impression is, that this will be never.
by timberwolf
Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:43 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

:D Just don't configure anything and everything will be almost fine. :lol:
by timberwolf
Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:50 pm
Forum: General
Topic: v5.11 released
Replies: 173
Views: 44851

Re: v5.11 released

You can't blame MikroTik for buggy x86 BIOS and Firmware implementations!
And yes there are a lot of them.
by timberwolf
Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:44 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

I wouldn't hold my breath.
Maybe a x86 Board like Soekris net6501 with KVM will be more usable; I didn't try.
I just use MikroTik/ROS for testing and home usage and gave up all planned and realized productive installations.
by timberwolf
Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:39 pm
Forum: General
Topic: v5.11 released
Replies: 173
Views: 44851

Re: v5.11 released

it looks like RouterOS looses HDD (in my case, it's USB Flash, 8G too :) ) - either now, or a bit later you will find out that Files window is empty, and Terminal window hangs after opening. the only thing that will fix it is reboot; and the only problem - it should be hardware reboot, because on r...
by timberwolf
Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Sporadic DNS failures
Replies: 16
Views: 2542

Re: Sporadic DNS failures

I'am having such issues from time to time, only fix I found was rebooting.
by timberwolf
Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:19 pm
Forum: General
Topic: v5.11 released
Replies: 173
Views: 44851

Re: v5.11 released

@rwilkins
This really sounds like someone hacked into the system and installed a backdoor.
After all ROS on x86(and all other plattforms) is Linux based and so exploits might work like on any other Linux based system.
by timberwolf
Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:15 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH
Replies: 42
Views: 14075

Re: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH

Thank you for your input Murray, that seems to acknowledge my theory that Metarouter isn't just unstable on MIPS boards, but has general issues lying burrowed in the software itself. If MR would work the uses would be fantastic, I once considered suggesting a Routerboard with MR as a CPE to a big Ge...
by timberwolf
Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:23 pm
Forum: General
Topic: RouterOS v5.9 released
Replies: 166
Views: 42359

Re: RouterOS v5.9 released

And if it is I'll guess I have to live with it and plan to move to another platform over time. The very last thing on my list!
As if there were any comparable alternative...
by timberwolf
Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:01 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

@janis:
What he meant where LE architectures in general, not necessarily MIPS-LE, I guess.
And yes, this could have an influence but at a point where it's already to late out of a developers perspective.
by timberwolf
Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:43 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

@xdemon:
Crashes may occur anywhere between 1minute to nearly 1day. The rate increases as you do more work inside the MR.
by timberwolf
Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:19 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

I can only repeat and clarify what I said in earlier posts: The whole MIPSBE series should be considered unusable in combination with Metarouter. Especially with the information available from MT and the fact that they aren't capable of fixing this problem in such a long time. @MT: This is not inten...
by timberwolf
Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:07 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

I guess you only could try yourself, there is extremely less feedback on Metarouters altogether. And, without wanting to bash MT, there seems to be no clear understanding of the cause on MIPSBE, so every MIPSBE based board should be viewed as affected. Even a small software update might tip those bo...
by timberwolf
Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:49 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH
Replies: 42
Views: 14075

Re: Metarouter stability on RB800, RB1100, RB1100AH

I'm not sure how to judge the fact, that no community members posted any reply about real world Metarouter usage.
by timberwolf
Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:46 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

@MT/janisk:
Any progress to report?
by timberwolf
Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:43 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: VmWare HW config for MK ROS
Replies: 9
Views: 8281

Re: VmWare HW config for MK ROS

also, AFAIK vmware tools are required for better monitoring of the guest system, not about optimizing interfaces and stuff, but i can be mistaken. That's correct, in the case of Windows, and sone Linuxes the VMware Tools add support for the VMXNET3 interface, which is paravirtualized and much faste...
by timberwolf
Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:00 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

That is thanks to new board that has similar structure as RB450G where debug mode or MetaROUTER can be monitored (it cannot be done or RB450G).
Your devs forgot to include the AR7116 in the JTAG scan chain on the RB450G? ;)
by timberwolf
Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:45 pm
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

Ok, my new Metarouter test crashed after about 3 hours. Short sketch of the config: 1 Metarouter, 32MB RAM&Disk 2 Virtual Interfaces, one dynamic as bridge port, one static to ether2. Pinging from Metarouter to host. Pinging from another System connected at ether2 to Metarouter. Only things configur...
by timberwolf
Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:34 am
Forum: Virtualization
Topic: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem
Replies: 221
Views: 76763

Re: RB450G + openwrt Metarouter strange problem

Conclusion by now: As both barkas and QpoX both have crashes regardless the switch switch-all-ports setting, I think we can rule that out. Significant difference between my setup and barkas setup is, that my Metarouter does nothing more than just pinging over one interface, and barkas does full MPLS...