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People who did not read changelog will be shocked in 8 days then

I do understand these theoretical situations. There are several types of posts here: - People who want to know what exactly will happen, and who have not yet read the previous posts. I try to answer them. - People who have theoretical "what if ..." concerns for highly improbable scenarios....

What will you be using traffic gen for, in this remote router? There is no need for theoretic, like I said

Just some clarification, all devices with LTE and WiFI come with default password for at least a year, I think. I have to check for up to date info. I think the last remaining devices with no password are CCR series.

The article does not go into much detail, but they are referring to the same devices that were compromised up until the year 2018, and have not been patched. If you are running RouterOS v7, your device should be safe, but to be 100% sure, you can inspect your configuration for any unknown rules or s...

Those features existed previously and if you used them, they are still working. Only new configuration requires approval by button press, for remotely connected user, to protect against remote intruder.

You can set this option today in 7.16, and it will remain after upgrade. Existing config is not affected by device mode limitations. This won't work with the options that did not exist before 7.17. Maybe, release a version where partition, downgrade and bootloader are known, but have no effect and ...

andriys let me repeat the question. you have full access to the router. what could be so f***ed up that you can't fix it from the fully working command line, but you can type "partition activate" command?

How do you suggest the router will determine which port has internet access, and then disable it? You can't disable all interfaces.

To be honest, the most surprising thing coming from this topic is that people use partitions, even though most of our devices don't have enough space for that. This feedback will help us. What would be much better if you could describe actual use cases, like @bmann has done, instead of "nobody ...

It starts to look like some at Mikrotik are not exactly familiar with the concept of managing devices in inaccessible locations or located in other country (or even continent)....

Please describe your specific use case, so we can see how to improve it. Not theory, real use.

I already explained, that if you have access to this device and are able to issue commands, you can also fix your config in other ways, not just by partition change. And if a script can do things in your router, so could an attacker. Those people that have thousands of routers that all use partition...

Rough timeline for v7.16 beta1 to v7.16 release was from June 5th to September 24th. Beta period can be considered grace period.

above quoted line from the manual

> "you can use the "save config" button to copy it over to other partitions.""

this can be done without any device mode changes, limitation only is applied to manual re-booting to other partition, if main one is still working

pe1chl, why is this so hard to understand? your complaint is about routerboot settings, that you can't switch to "try-ethernet-once-then-nand". You can, switch now and upgrade later. about partitions, their purpose is to reboot into backup, when device fails to boot. this works without any...

that is the exception. i'm asking why he is doing that every time after upgrade.
if your tunnel is down, you can't switch partitons anyway. you need access for that.

This thread highlights some very interesting workflows we never even imagined https://xkcd.com/1172/ Why do you switch the partition after upgrade? Can you not simply create a second partition, or update it, if upgrade is successful? And if not successful, boot from the backup? That will not require...

dave3, could you include more info, what window manager are you using, OS version etc. and send a video to support?

Did you read the thread? The person answers the same thing as I answered now. You can't do it. RouterOS has no sed utility. You can only overwrite the whole file with new content. All of it.

Unable to repeat the issue, sorted filter rules by interface, went to NAT, went back to filter, rules still sorted by interface. Maybe something specific in your case, email some screenshots to support please

There is no way to do it in the router. You need a utility like "sed".

You can set this option today in 7.16, and it will remain after upgrade. Existing config is not affected by device mode limitations. /system/device-mode/update partition=yes expected end of command (line 1 column 28) you cannot. 7.16 does not know about device-mode "partition". Are you se...

This is a fu__ng function the need to press a button to manage device mode features. It's very fun with remote site at fews hundreds/thousands kilometers. How this new device mode will be handled with upgrade/downgrade OR partitions switch with differents versions ? There is no need to do this at a...

Developers of Mikrotik There are so many AP AX that are unusable in 5G because of SA query timeout, and you have just reword this? Are you serious? Do not complain that for the market share of Ubiquiti in Wifi... unacceptable for months not to be able to connect my business laptop to wifi Please te...

Sorry, still not understanding your issue.

issue command "file edit value-name=contents test.txt" and change your URL. what's the problem?

New devices come with a default password. This is the only way I think can solve this issue.

You can set this option today in 7.16, and it will remain after upgrade.
Existing config is not affected by device mode limitations.

The issue with downgrade is that any attack script can immediatelly issue downgrade command to some version with known security issue and take over the device. See https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=1101208 as an example of how smart these scripts are. How about disallowing downgrade to ROS...

The issue with downgrade is that any attack script can immediatelly issue downgrade command to some version with known security issue and take over the device. See viewtopic.php?p=1101208 as an example of how smart these scripts are.

What is your proposal, to verify ownership of a device in a way, that a remote attacker can't do?

Let me remind you, that if your device has some need to be routinely switched between partitions all the time, send somebody to unplug it from power ONCE in it's lifetime, to enable device mode setting for this.

Device Mode: Partitions - If your router is unable to boot, it will still be able to boot into your other partitions. No restriction for crash recovery. - You can still repartition your disk into more partitions. No restriction for repartition. The only thing not allowed by device-mode setting "...

you already wrote the command to do it from terminal. what is the issue with this command?

Pe1chl: "That means that once you upgrade to 7.17 you will find existing features inoperative" That's not true, can you please stop repeating this nonsense? It was explained multiple times, that your container will continue working, your hotspot will continue working. It is documented and ...

ormandj
"It seems like the upgrade should have an option to leave all pre7.17 devices in the same state they were post upgrade"
That's exactly as it is. I already explained it. Your running config is not affected.

Let me ask again, why would you simultaneously deploy a new version on these thousands of inaccessible devices, without testing it first?
Second, if you are able to connect and issue a system downgrade command, it means the device still works, no?

Some replies and remarks: Old configuration is not touched. If you had hotspot, it keeps working etc. Containers always required device mode setting, so you already must have had enabled it, if you had them before. FezzFest: Downgrade is still offered via switching of release channels. Don't upgrade...

Infabo: One more trick, if you have upgraded an inaccessible device and URGENTLY need to downgrade, because beta has broken something for you, you can change upgrade channel and "upgrade" down to a stable version. This will only work until the other channels have older versions before devi...

Yes ^

Good point, Amm0

There is no list, all devices running RouterOS still can be upgraded to v7.17 The limitation, like mkx explained above, is that some very very old devices will not work well . For example devices with SMIPS architecture have small amount of RAM, you might be able to use it with only the system packa...

DEVICE MODE: all configuration you had running before changing device mode limitations will remain working. Only new config will be denied, if this particular mode setting denies it.

Sorry about that, my mistake, this whole thread has turned into "questions about device mode"

If your containers stopped working after upgrade to 7.17, it might not be related to device mode at all.

I have posted further updates to the manual, so all your Device mode questions should be answered in there .

Containers ALWAYS had device-mode requirement, since day one. Maybe you forgot you set it. So nothing changes if you had a running container.

We have added to the manual some more info about device mode, including that it will reboot in any case. The console message will also be amended in future betas. But it's still not clear what I need to do to make sure I can still use all features (including traffic-gen, container, partitions, boot...

No, we do not plan to implement annual licensing or any other licensing changes. Device mode, as clarified in the manual, is meant to protect home users who have their routers taken over by attackers and are using them for botnet purposes. EVEN THOUGH we have no known security issues in RouterOS AND...

We have added to the manual some more info about device mode, including that it will reboot in any case.
The console message will also be amended in future betas.

Yes it happens automatically, it needs access to license.mikrotik.com
It is all here https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ ... enseUpdate

markom, Winbox4 has no "nice" wizard and tutorial things in it. It has all the same functionality as Winbox3, so please take your baseless complaints elsewhere.

What's new in v4.0beta9: - return ESC shortcut to close sub windows - add support for Groups for Saved router list in Login window - add support to import Saved address list .cdb file (NOTE: old .wbx file type is deprecated. This means exported Winbox 3 file won't work, use .cdb file). - add suppor...

Don't paste and run scripts that you "found on the internet", it is dangerous. Start by pasting only the script in the console. Does it work there? It won't and you will see why. you have copied all kinds of random characters and linebreaks (\n), the script has to look something like this:...

This is documented.
CHR licenses are stored in the cloud, the virtual router does not know, whether you have moved or revoked this license. This is why at "deadline" date, it will check status. If license still valid, it will again extend this date to the next check date.

Yes, first change to Channel "Upgrade" and upgrade to that 7.12 version, after that, newer versions will become available.

RB2011UiAS is okay with v7
RB2011L series might be too slow, but you have the better model.

Documentation of device-mode has been updated with more info. If anyone has any doubts or questions, please post them here and we will answer them in the documentation

ofca, I understand your concern, but if you do not have any kind of backup access to these devices, how are you recovering in case of some failed upgrade? An alternative to push-button is cold reboot (power cycle). **I would like to stress, that device-mode settings are entirely optional. Do your CP...

there is no possibility to connect antennas to hAP ax lite.
those are not antenna connectors.

a hub will help with connectivity issues, it will improve it, yes.

You should keep trying netinstall. One suggestion is to unplug everything else from your router and from your computer. Disable wifi if you are on a laptop. Then connect the device like this: [PC] ----- cable ---- [basic ethernet HUB or simple ethernet switch] ----- cable ----- [router boot port] la...

A user can log in but have no rights to open terminal.

Read users can use Winbox terminal. That's not true.

no, just type /export in command line (ssh) and you will see all config, and be able to copy from terminal screen

I don't understand, what do you mean "no authorization"?
if you can login, you can use export

Sorry I misread the issue

Glad you solved it .

"With attachments" usually means all cables and possible accessories are plugged in and used. If the particular model has no external attachments, we don't change the wording on the webpage.

1) Check the Log file and it will tell you why
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Hello everyone. Our 3011 device was hacked. Our users have been put in read mode. reset button is disabled. and I have no backup outside. we use Custom software for hotspot. configuration is important. how can I proceed. thanks. - What RouterOS version were you running? - Did you have firewall on a...

korg - we can't help with this information. It works for others using the same operating system, so it could be something in your computer that is causing the issue. try to disable antivirus, firewall, check if you have administratative privileges. Try another PC.

For what is the "Workspace", when I can't sort items according to this list??? And again, I still can't save devices with the same IP address in different workspace/location... Why? Workspace has no relation to your IP. It is a way to organize windows. You can make a Workspace for managin...

Have updated to Beta 8, still getting error "Could not connect, MacConnection syn timeout" when trying to access a device via L2. I don't have firewall enabled on my mac. Is the router directly connected to your compuer, or there are devices in between? In general MAC address connection w...

Latest Beta and still incorrect czech language. In old version was all fine. Still get this icons: ???? meanwhile this : ěščřžýáíé Thank you very much for repair it. You need to enter the text again. Importing of text that was entered in WinBox3 will not be supported, as the old WinBox did not stor...

There is a notes column. You have to click on it to expand it.

!) device-mode - after upgrade, mode "advanced" is set by default and traffic-gen, changing active partitions, bootloader and downgrade features will be disabled; Oh! 😳 I have some remote Chateau (and other) devices with partitions. After update to 7.17beta2 and later I can not switch the...

ab57 is newer than beta2

Thank you for the clarification and links

I absolutely love Winbox 4, have it running on both Windows and Debian! I'll double that. Using WinBox 4 on macOS and Linux( https://flathub.org/apps/com.mikrotik.WinBox ) - I personally like this version more. Please be careful with installing software from 3rd party sources. This version is not p...

Copy mistake with the test results. Fixed!

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Sure, CGGXANNX, we will add escape to cancel prompts, just like in Windows. But not closing tables and other windows. It is your suggestion to follow "Operating System's guidelines". OK?

CGGXANNX Sorry what? Which programs close with ESC in Windows? It has been CTRL+W and CMD+W in all software I know. Winbox was the exception. Almost every dialog in Windows??? Press Win+R to use the Run dialog and ESC close it??? Everything with a Cancel button That is COMPLETELY different. Cancel ...

CGGXANNX Sorry what? Which programs close with ESC in Windows? It has been CTRL+W and CMD+W in all software I know. Winbox was the exception.

What's new in v4.0beta8: - Make font darker for light mode - Improve font rendering in windows multiline text widget - Change selected text color for multiline text widget What's new in v4.0beta7: - Some error messages were not shown - Properly sort dropdown items - Some default values did not matc...

========== NEW QUESTION ========== Thank you all for input. New question. What specific features would you like to provision in these controller type of setups. What is your #1 use case, which config is most often needed to apply "en masse" or to multiple devices? P.S: it seems nearly all ...

It is in the first post though

> Missing tree view of sub-items in tables, like VLANs, Queues, etc.

I know we had a similar topic a while ago, but here there are some more specific questions. This is just to gather ideas and general opinions. Please don't just answer "yes, give us everything". It is more about what you would actually use, what you actually need. 1) Are you interested in ...

I am Missing Check for Update Button in new Winbox 4

It is automatically checking for updates upon launching

In fact that's probably the main problem with whole WinBox 4. Everything in it is HUGE... I'm still seeing much less info in same space. It's the same problem that almost every new software has. Perhaps it's trying to be touch-friendly, which I'm sure is lovely for people who want it, and I wholehe...

You don't need to export it. Just find the old WinBox3 directory and move the files to the new WinBox4 directory and your saved routers will be shown. Import/Export is not needed in this case, as WinBox4 does not yet have any import button. But it is only the list of routers, not the saved sessions...

No, that won't work. The files are in different file types.. I followed the 1st post but it doesn't make sense when it's different filetypes. It won't recognize it....I have exported to wbx and the new one is viw2. ? read first post You don't need to export it. Just find the old WinBox3 directory a...

How can I migrate my windows version .WBX file into the new beta6 for macOS ?
MacOS version is in .viw2 -format.

read first post

Yes, and that one will stay for now. As seen in the thread, it is a much more divisive topic, than main window Tabs

It is under consideration as a configurable option. Zebras vs full grid.

Left / right two finger scrolling (swiping) on Macbook Air track pad does not scroll the wide windows left and right. You have to move the mouse down to the bottom of the window and drag the slider left / right.

this bug is already known and reported multiple times in this thread

Code: Select all
*) return tab based interface, while keeping benefits of dropdowns
This is only half done. Most people want these WebFig style dropdowns as tabs too.
tabs_please.png

most people?

P.S: why is your winbox so small?

Infabo, do you ever try something, before complaining? There is an option to hide tabs!

What's new in v4.0beta6:

*) minor UI improvements

What's new in v4.0beta5:

*) return tab based interace, while keeping benefits of dropdowns
*) move action buttons into table toolbar
*) change style for active sub window
*) fix macOS self-update on some systems
*) stability improvements

No, it's not a good summary, because the very first post in this topic already clearly said, that it is a known issue, that all keyboard shortcuts are turned off.
Do not post again and again the same thing, that is already explained.

Please read the first post before posting!

send the link to a friend.
friend needs BTH app.
friend clicks on link, and setup opens.

Behaviour should adhere to system settings. I don't use Mac, but on Windows and Linux I prefer not to have apps groupped ... and there's system-wide setting for that both in Windows and KDE (which is what I use on Linux if I can choose). In normal apps, there's a text pop-up tab when one hovers mou...

Thank you for the suggestion, Amm0. Added to wishlist.

Config files don't have names, and are not stored in files. It's all just running config. When you import something from an RSC file, it just reads the file and executes commands that are within. There is no way to tell which config file you imported. But if you imported the file in the command line...

I know, but that is a workaround for now. Groups will return.

Need the group feature back badly. This is a show stopper for us as we sort clients that way.
+1

You can enable comments and sort by comment like this

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Yes, you can do that. Maybe the router will be even a little faster, as the LCD takes up some system resources.

We have fixed the macOS self-update issue, but of course, you will only be able to enjoy it after the next release. The fix will still have to be installed manually.

Hm, but I assume that many professionals have Winbox running without closing for days or even weeks. They won't get notified And that is perfectly OK, IMO, if I have many routers connected, as I often do, I don't want to have to reconnect to all of them just because there is a new update. Check on ...

Like it is mentioned in known isssues list, in certain Windows computers, there is a known issue that winbox feels slow and sluggish. It will be addressed.

It's interesting that your error says "Bad volume: /Volumes/WinBox"
Can you check how the DMG has mounted in your system with "ls /Volumes " ?

maisondasilva we have many different type of products, we do not plan to aim for consistency here. There are so many possible menu combinations, that it will just overwhelm the user with useless options that his device does not have.

Kanzler are there any other disk images or volumes mounted when you do the update?
Check finder side menu

Kanzler, is your user account in macOS with full administrative rights?
Open the Console app from /Applications/Utilities, and see if there is any errors, when trying to upgrade. You can delete the new app, downwload an older one, and try the upgrade again.

How frequently does Winbox check for updates? No notification until now.
So basically 24h since release of beta4. My running Winbox instance still does not show update notification on Linux client.

On launch! Relaunch it.

If DMG installer "did not offer" it just means it's a Beta and trusts that user knows how to install apps. Sorry. We will improve in future.

But well Infabo is not the only one, there is at least one other person with a similar issue. We are investigating (as seen in my known issue list)

I have Winbox 4 beta3 installed on my Macbook running Big Sur. I installed the Winbox app on my desktop (from DMG dragged to desktop). I opened Winbox beta3. I see the "Update available" info on right top of window. Infabo, the macOS Apps should be located in the Applications directory, n...

But you can do that - create new workspaces and name them with meaningful names. You can have 10 or 20, doesn't matter. Select the needed one when connecting, or even change to another one while connected.

Edit: OK so you want winbox to remember which workspace you used last

On another note, I would like to be able to save devices together with a workspace like it used to be with sessions in v3. So when connecting to a saved device, it would open the saved workspace automatically. Using <own> for this is not a solution. Why is not <own> the solution? It is exactly the ...

Please stop this nonsense.
This forum has new messages on the bottom.
Same with chats etc.

Have you seen the RouterOS Log window? Same. New entries at the bottom.

new entries are added to the bottom

Saduff, we managed to repeat the issue. It does not crash the router, but there is high load and a delay, when the Workspace tries to load certain non-existing switch related windows. We are fixing it.

Edit: Although it turns out, this is a RouterOS bug, not winbox. I also added it to the list.

We found the issue, it is so, like you said. If there is high latency, MAC connection can be broken.
Original topic author, please use IP if available.

Please do not suggest things that are already in this list Known issues to be addressed (updated Sept 6.) : Keyboard shortcuts missing (currently only cmd/ctrl+W works) Improve contrast in both light and dark modes for old displays with low contrast ratio Most people prefer Tabs over Dropdowns Need...

Some devices simply do not support health monitoring. It's not a winbox bug!

Big Sur here. Error handling is apparently not the highest of priorities in this beta - it is ok - beta break idc. It would help to have some kind of log file which I could hand over to Mikrotik for inspection. But logging/debugging is apparently no top prio either. And I guess a "I hit the up...

Workspace Pulldown doesn't show full workspace name even if there is plenty of room. Example is "Test Workspace":
workspace.png

Could not repeat the issue. What operating system are you using, and is this WinBox 4beta4 ?

There's no scrolling in the Settings pane which can result in the inability to see or interact with options for short window heights. The Settings header could also be moved up to the top across from the close button and perhaps move the descriptive text into forthcoming hover Tooltips Settings.png...

am i missing something, where is? *) added command line launch parameters ( WinBox <connect-to> <addresess> <password>); on a mac, this works for me: open /Applications/WinBox.app --args <address> <user> <password> 1) you can use " open -a Winbox " and you will not have to specify the pat...

i just upgraded to WinBox4.0beta4 for Linux. I believe i found a bug. I noticed that i cannot upgrade the RouterOS of my mikrotiks. i have tried uploading several times (all of which were successful uploads). but after the reboot, the RouterOS version was not upgraded. I defaulted to WinBox 3.41 an...

Looks like you are connecting to the MAC address. This type of connection should only be used when no other connection is available. Try to use the IP address of the unit first. Also, MAC connection is much less reliable and is more sensitive to network latency. Try to close Winbox completely, then ...

I have this thing. Have not seen multiple IP. Maybe you plugged in the LAN cable and also enabled WiFi on it?

https://mikrotik.com/consultants/asia/uzbekistan

This works out of the box on all operating systems. Closes the connection how, what do you see then? Winbox disappears? Mayebe it is crashing and closing Yes, like I said, if I make a change that requires the device to reboot (like, oddly enough, changing an AP frequency), once you hit apply WiFi t...

This works out of the box on all operating systems. Closes the connection how, what do you see then? Winbox disappears? Mayebe it is crashing and closing

Everyone, please - those things that are listed in "known issues" and are not listed in the changelog, have not been changed. No need to report again.

Update to beta4 on Intel Mac did not finish the same way as with last update (had to manually copy app from /Volumes/WinBox to /Applications).

This works for nearly everyone else, so something must be wrong in those computers, where it fails. Make a support ticket please, so we can investigate

What's new in v4.0beta4:

*) added undo / redo / safe mode
*) added command line launch parameters ( WinBox <connect-to> <addresess> <password>)
*) fix auth via RADIUS on macOS
*) fix opening http url on Windows (for SwOS)
*) improved several icons

Karlis, so Half Life 2 is same as Half Life 1, just with additional bugs? Very weird argument here.

A beta phase generally begins when the software is feature-complete but likely to contain several known or unknown bugs. Chaos, read your own quote more carefully. Also, what even is such a thing as "feature complete"? Winbox4 is a new software, which has not replaced Winbox3. It will evo...

Wonder if the possibility to select all (using ctrl+all) or even a button in the new inbox will be added in the future or even select some elements in the same tab using shift. that was very useful in the old winbox to disable / enable a bunch of firewall rules at once for testing. As multiple post...

I have one question - how to delete the workspace in Winbox 4? New ones can be created and saved but there does not seem to be a way to delete them...

Like this (button next to workspace name. icon will be changed, current one is a bug)

No auto reconnect or open in new window options. In v4 whenever the device needs to reboot, changing frequency in an AP for example, v4 closes and requires a manual restart. This is wastes time that most field techs don't have. Please re-instate. There is auto reconnect with a countdown and it works.

Will report, thanks

genesispro please read first post, before posting known issues

I think there is a bug regarding <own> workspace. Windows layout is not being saved.

works for me. maybe write permissions for the session file folder?

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Do you plan to fix the encoding?

Known issue, as mentioned in the first post.

Currently, new entries show correctly. Only old comments do not show correctly.

I'm sorry, this thread is so TL;DR :/.. I know it was a lot of work, but.. First rant (apart form things to be addressed in the original post): - too much graphics, I could live with Winbox3 with darkmode forever; content is getting lost for the cause of fancyness - windows cannot be closed by 'Esc...

did you connect to ports 2-5, not first port? first one is for ISP cable only.

also try Netinstall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzlLbIf3Dbk

Workspaces save the list and locations of open windows, that you will see when connecting to a router <none> - nothing is open <own> - the same windows are open, that you saw last time, when connected to this same IP You can make new workspaces, just give them meaningful names. Like "Debugging&...

Functionally it is the same. You previously did not save "session" or "workspace" with a name, so it was given the IP as the temporary name. Even in Winbox3 you had to give a name to the "session", but you did not do it, ie. you did not use the sessions correctly. Right...

overall sluggishness

This only affects Windows users running 60Hz and is a known bug in the "Qt" framework, a fix is in the works. macOS and linux should be fast for most people.

Workspace saves arranged menus. Maybe you want a Wireless workspace, with Wireless Registration table open, the Log window, the Wireless scan window. Call it Wireless Debugging and save as a workspace. Then maybe you need a Terminal workspace with 4 terminals.

it is exactly as was in v3

Yeah, sorry, but that is not planned at this stage, Larsa.

Bad link, misunderstanding how apps work.
If we make an Electron app and only publish the windows version, does it mean it's a native app? No.

Native in terms of: compiled to run on Windows OS only. Is that right?

ran only on windows is not really definition of "native", but I guess it depends on definition

What I see and an example application that uses actual Workspaces ;-) ...at least comments is displaying even though not showing a selectable option. https://i.ibb.co/z65yTXL/Screenshot-2024-09-03-at-13-37-43.png click on the comment column title. This button decides how to show them (see image) Sc...

People are so gotten used to grey XP style interface, but are not used to the name? We call it winbox, because is easy to say and everyone knows what it is Because it was a native Windows application until 3.x. Now it is cross-platform and people ask questions. My house has windows too, and it is n...

Thank you, dark mode scroll bar problem acknowledged

People are so gotten used to grey XP style interface, but are not used to the name? We call it winbox, because is easy to say and everyone knows what it is

Really loves the GNU/Linux native version!!!! I have two things to ask for: ¿Where is the "SAFE MODE" button placed now? I can't find it (my vision is not like in my 20's hehehehe!!!) the other one is that at Debian 12 I can't download files from router to my computer, if I switch to an &...

If anyone else is not seeing Comments column in the Saved routers interface, make sure this Comment setting is on Globally

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LTE graphs are known to be missing, they will return

> why it's still called 'WinBox' on macOS or Linux?

inside the app there are many windows. I believe in all operating systems those are called windows.

No workspaces is definitely not that. Workspace saves arranged menus. Maybe you want a Wireless workspace, with Wireless Registration table open, the Log window, the Wireless scan window. Call it Wireless Debugging and save as a workspace. Then maybe you need a Terminal workspace with 4 terminals.

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@normis: where/how to open that view ?!? i have no comment column to select/show ?

when saving a new entry, using save button, did you add a comment?
and check if that column is enabled in the column settings

Example about dark mode scrollbar ?
yes, dark mode warnings will be added to list

Thank you for the insight

AppImage and Snap are also mentoned here, but described as bad.
What is the "best way" to distribute linux apps, in your opinion?

Can we please have descriptive text option for saved connections as below example..

There is a Comment column already, You have not opened it up.

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hello everyone, what i haven't found yet is the button check for update (mac version) i think this will be the most important thing in the near future
apart from a few small things (which are part of the first version) grautlation and thanks

Updates are checked automatically

I'm only using linux in command line, so I don't have a big understanding of this big war "we absolutely need flatpak" vs "please god not flatpak". Can somebody explain what's going on?

Normis, here you see ping window, the new and the old Winbox. On both main text is "as black as can be"? Don't think so. At least in your image it looks blurry. I have a suspicion you are using non default scaling in your operating system, or some kind of font smoothing. Of course you can...

1. Yeah, that's correct. There an issue with button. The button shown in the red rectangle below doesn't work as expected. As explained by @STMT: " It is possible to detach the window if you open the drop-down menu and click the button next to the submenu name ." This action should unlock...

I have tried to close the active winbox window (whether the start window or that of a connected router) with CMD+W ... it does not work on my M1 Mac (Sonoma 14.6.1). Have I missed something in the last x posts ? ;-) CMD+W closes inner windows inside winbox, not winbox itself. The only exception is ...

I thought the main issue is with the main text.
Yes, disabled item text looks too light.

Could nz_monkey please circle which text in this image is too light, and compared to what other part of the image. For me on my screens, the main font is as black as can be.

Larsa, unclear abut detachment from workspace, can you describe the issue? You still can't detach a window from the WinBox main workspace and move it around freely on screen. Please check out @STMTs reply here: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=210505#p1093920. That does not make it cleare...

********** STATUS UPDATE *************** Known issues to be addressed: Improve contrast in both light and dark modes for old displays with low contrast ratio "old displays with low contrast ratio" ??? It is very hard to read on my M3 Macbook Pro, My 1 year old Dell 4K LED, My Asus 27"...

Larsa, unclear abut detachment from workspace, can you describe the issue? Also missing start parameters... Yes, already reported, just missed it in the list. add auto dark/light mode depend on the (local) device color scheme Added that too To all others, please see the list of issues that are alrea...

You are right, added into list

********** STATUS UPDATE *************** ********** STATUS UPDATE *************** Known issues to be addressed: Improve contrast in both light and dark modes for old displays with low contrast ratio Most people prefer Tabs over Dropdowns Needs list of open windows Comment column functionality is con...

I like how an extra folder containing a single image file needed to be packed for distribution

This is a forum release for now. Manually uploaded by hand. Please don't expect beta1 to have everything perfect. We will improve all the small details with time, as stated in the first post.

the interface does not fit on the 2560x1440 size, I am disappointed in mikrotik finally.

Can you clarify what you mean by this? Include a picture if possible. It works fine even in 5K here.

Every time I buy a Mikrotik device, I do it because I can manage it with WinBox (well, ssh too). I wouldn't touch WebFig with a ***** pole. This new WinBox 4, as of now, is closer to WebFig than WinBox. I couldn't care less about native version, because v3 is working with Wine on everything I use, ...

Small QoL feedback: Please return the option to sort by Hostname (Comment), right now my devices are all over the place.

Which menu?

If people with no password could just go into the router and save configuration, including password, it would be very insecure, don't you think?

if password is lost, the only possibility is full reset.

chojrak11 there are some things that are missing, or not yet made, like explained in the first post. also there are things, that have very good reasoning behind them, but for old users feel unfamiliar, and therefore they don't like it. we could not have made 1:1 with old winbox, it was simply imposs...

Like above example with Flatpak, I wanted to show you that there are many people that think 180 degree opposite of other users. One good example is that there are many that love the new dropdown menus, against tabs. So how could mikrotik handle this, like you suggest, "collected feedback from u...

That's something else. Most likely used has an older display with low contrast, which the designers will adjust and improve with simple tweaks. Do not confuse bugs and things that will change, with "all modern interfaces are bad compared to Windows 2000" You are talking about how the best ...

I simply do not agree to what you wrote, so it is definitely an issue of preference. It is 100% not a usability issue, but issue of change.

lol, hope not app image or flatpak.....

the number one request from linux users of Winbox4 is flatpak.

One guy at reddit basically nailed it: https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/1cr2zov/comment/l3vi0h5 What made Windows 2000 good was that it was the final iteration on a UI that had been refined over five years. I like this approach much better than ripping it all up and starting again like Mic...

maybe there will be more assets in the future? Not a big deal, as I have created one for the AUR package already... How about shipping a desktop file? Something like: https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/winbox.desktop?h=winbox This could be enhanced, for example with translations. We are ce...

4) There is sorting by comment. First expand comment field by clicking on the header.

Yes, Windows 7 was released in 2009, which is 15 years ago. To run WinBox 4 you need Windows 10.

Most likely your crossover winbox version is called the same name. Try to move it or rename it first, then try upgrade

Yes,

- Groups will return in time
- Esc is now CMD+W
- other shortcuts are removed for now, we will make new ones in time

Please read the whole topic before reporting missing features

If there is anyone here with a mac, that failed to do auto upgrade, could you please downgrade manually to beta1 (change path in download link), then open winbox like this, and if update fails again, send us the txt file In Terminal "cd /Applications" "open -a WinBox -o wboxoutput.txt...

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