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I had to look at a commercial property in Georgetown Washington DC. I figure with the way the building is built and their use requirements... We are looking at 17 access points. 2 of which need to serve an outdoor area along the main road in the heart of the city. Standing out front of the building....

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I think there are not many good working implementations of bandsteering. Besides, any modern device will choose 5G over 2.4G, especially if you tweak the TX power. Any effort on implementing this would be a total waste of time in my opinion. While there are so many other relevant implementations th...

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So is there any process since 2016?

We progressed to only using Mikrotik for routing... And someone else for Wireless.

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Currently many MikroTik WiFi devices include IPQ4018 or IPQ4019 chipset. The next generation will probably use IPQ60xx chipset. So when everybody else sells WiFi6E in 2022, MikroTik starts with WiFi6.

Mikrotik drags a lot farther behind than that. What are we at... 6 years on incomplete wifi 5?

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"If only caps-man could manage a good radio"

I hear that several times a week...

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6 years behind?
No references at all to WiFi 6?
Yeah... It's called RouterOS!
Well, no. The new wireless package contains firmware and drivers for multiple 802.11ax chipsets. Take a look at the screenshots above.

Here's the screen shot that matters...

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I was really hilarious when I got one email per month, for 4 months, as my clients would not connect from Mikrotik support. I had a dozen installs with the same problem that Mikrotik flat out told me... "It's your environment." Stopped using Mikrotik wireless and my problems went away inst...

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RVs have metal skins... Penetration each way is the first issue you have to chase.

So more APs, turned down, with smaller channel widths.

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As much as I hate to use it...
When I use caps-man... Create Enabled. Then I select the wireless channels for each radio manually.

I have a template for all the US channels and frequency. So I use that in the drop down menu.

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6 years behind?

No references at all to WiFi 6?

Yeah... It's called RouterOS!

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Always confirm whether you are dealing with SEND ALL, or SPLIT TUNNEL.

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Pay the upgrade for the public IP.

The netname from cloud updates every 60 seconds and will work just fine for DNS resolving to reach your router...ONCE YOU HAVE A PUBLIC IP.

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Make a firewall rule to accept the address scope of your VPN.

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My Ruckus H510 at my desk it where I connect hard wired devices. I bought it in 2017 for $200. It got a firmware update adding WPA3 a few months ago.

It's AC MU-MIMO has worked since day one.

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There are a few ways to do it. I have 2 sites that have a VPN between it. One device has to use the gateway on the other side. That's done in Mangle. My home and office have an EoIP VPN. One SSID is bonded to the EoIP tunnel in bridges. Get on that SSID... And you are on the office network... At lay...

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~500 Mbps download with 2x2 client very close to Chateau (no wifiwave2 for Chateau - not expensive enough I guess).
Thank you for the results.

Uhh huh... And what was the actually reporting throughput at the device?

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My CRS has been absolutely flawless... at propping the door open. As long as I don't plug it into power or connect a RJ-45 to it... It actually performs as expected. I used to hook it back up with each new "patched release" only to have the same problems come back. We went back to Ubnt Edg...

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I got in the 300s 4 feet away at the office since moving to 6.48.

Still 200M off the mark once you flip manufactures.
Do you have the possibility to do some iperf3 tests?

Honestly... I get really tired of testing Mikrotik wireless.

I have found its sandbox, and I keep it there.

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I got in the 300s 4 feet away at the office since moving to 6.48.

Still 200M off the mark once you flip manufactures.

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Did a couple dozen installs since my last post on this thread...

Had one Sonos problem and it was because the installer hardwired the Sonos, when I told him not too.

The built in radios on the Sonos Connects and Amps made connections via mesh as well... And all hell broke loose.

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Merry Xmas everyone. Radios not so behind, but comparing to other brands it lacks some options. however if I'd want to make air bridge, I would still choose Mikrotik due to the advanced options you allowed to make. But when it come to central management, it is definitely behind. ACv2 with MU-MIMO w...

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guys, you run bit offtopic.... :)

Let's get back on topic.

RB4011 IS A SOLID ROUTER.
Mikrotik radios are pretty behind the times. And caps-man only runs on Mikrotik radios.

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If you get an IP address from the local subnet of the router... You will need proxy arp enabled to see anything at the office. But to reach the second site... Your route between the 2 should apply to the VPN client too.

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You are welcome. I have been pairing Ruckus Wireless with Mikrotik routers for almost 10 years now. While I may use Mikrotik wireless here and their... I have been kicked in the teeth enough times to not use it in my commercial or high density projects. I did a reporters bull pen in 2012. They only ...

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Anav The R510 used to be 650 dollars. Amazon was selling them for 225. The R610 800 msrp. I got 2 from Amazon for $275 each. I would say the TP link business access points are way better dollar value and comparable to the 610 series are the EAP265 for $128US EAP245 for $89CDN of course waiting to s...

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Bpwl I respect that you really demonstrate a deep understanding of wifi. But when you step out of theory... There is no way this won't end badly for this guy, if he tries to do this with Mikrotik's current WAPs. They just are not up to the task and you can't out tweak it. I would love to be wrong......

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Anav

The R510 used to be 650 dollars. Amazon was selling them for 225.

The R610 800 msrp. I got 2 from Amazon for $275 each.

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Absolutely incredible routers. Use them for everything.

Wifi... Not so much. I get much better results with Ruckus Wireless.

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Net install can be used to load whatever routerOS.

As for not finding the update server?

I have seen it happen before. Sometimes it's external. Sometimes it's the router.

But a up date from files should get you going.

Or you could use net install to get it factory fresh.

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The original post didn't include that some devices work.

Moving on.

Download the latest stable and put it in files then reboot.

After that... Update routerboard firmware.

Then default the router.

You will have an open SSID to connect too. See if that works.

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"Caps-man would be awesome... If it controlled better radios." No way I would do a large or high density install with Caps-Man. I would route it Mikrotik... But when it comes to wireless... Mikrotik radios are years behind. I just can't justify that when the 2.4 radio stops working. I was ...

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Need a route to match.

I am at he VPN'd to my office. I can jump right to field office devices by typing in the IP of the field device IP.

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OpenVPN has not been properly supported by Mikrotik in about 10 years.

Use another protocol.

IPSEC acceleration is included in a bunch of routerboards. To try using that when you can.

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Set the l2TP connection to have a unique IP.
192.168.200.2 and 192.168.200.3
Put that on each router.
Then tell your routers that the router has to use the VPN as the gateway.

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I have found that it's a waste of my time to trouble shoot caps on the router running caps-man.

Much better results by only controlling external radios.

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If you are in a noisy or crowded environment... Abandon all hope. Mikrotik 2.4 radios do not do well in dense environments causing 2.4 clients to appear to connect and disconnect constantly. The email support sent me said that it was purely my environment. Problem is... Most of my jobs are similar e...

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You would have to show us your configuration.

But it sounds like your WLAN might not be attached to a bridge.

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Don't even consider Mikrotik for the wireless. It can route that all day with a 70 dollar router. But you are going to need much better WAPs. Look at Ruckus t310 or better. T750 gets you wifi 6. But if it a temporary thing... They sell this https://www.commscope.com/press-releases/2020/commscope-int...

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Running caps-man on the local unit tends to not work well. Turning off the Radios on a hAP AC2 and letting it run several cAP ACs, has worked about as well as Mikrotik wireless can. But still not having MU-MIMO in 2020... Means I am putting in a radio comparable to other manufactures 2016 WAPs. With...

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Once in caps-mode

I use telnet to:
Update packages
Reboot
Update routerboard
Reboot

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Compared to other caps man setting that won't even let you set the channels.

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thanks rOOt. I will try to get a compex card.

I can't imagine to not using the RB4011 when now the new Wifi drivers are released...! Would be a pity...

New wifi drivers are in "Development" release.

Mikrotik can route. When it comes to wifi... Pick another vendor.

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I just connect to the device via default wifi.

Open winbox.
Select system
Reset-configuration
Skip backup
Caps-mode

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MU-MIMO spec was set over 5 years ago. Mikrotik has put their implementation for it into DEVELOPMENT branch now. Meanwhile... Evey other vendor is focused on WiFi 6. Many have had it out for months. I gave up on Mikrotik wireless for anything critical a long time ago. Mostly for how it doesn't deal...

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Ubnt EdgeSwitch

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If the radio is "controlled by caps-man"... That's the only control of the radio and create enabled seems to give you the most control of APs.

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You were on the right track.

You have to add a rule that allows clients to reach the captive portal. Put that above the drop rules for client to client.

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Buy a static IP from VZW for the SIM... Then it will work in a Mikrotik radio.

But I gotta tell you... In the US Mikrotik Cellular radios don't support the most commonly used VZW frequencies.

So I don't bother anymore...
I just pony up for the Cradlepoint.

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MU-MIMO spec was set over 5 years ago. Mikrotik has put their implementation for it into DEVELOPMENT branch now. Meanwhile... Evey other vendor is focused on WiFi 6. Many have had it out for months. I gave up on Mikrotik wireless for anything critical a long time ago. Mostly for how it doesn't deal ...

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I say it all the time... need better wifi... change vendors. Mikrotik routing... awesome. Mikrotik wireless... they released a Development Software recently to finish a standard ratified in 2016. For anyone keeping track or can't add... that's 5 years out of date. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_...

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I just bought a bunch, and installed, Tenda-AC21 routers. The only difference with the AC23 is it has 2 antennas less. But they work like a charm! People that needed repeaters before can ditch them. Those with 5 Ghz enabled devices automatically connect to the 5 Ghz radio and they see for the first...

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The discussed CRS354 Ethernet interface forwarding issue is related to CRS354 chip configuration and solving it involves internal parameter tuning of the device. By cooperating with the chip manufacturer, we are researching it and doing more extensive testing to properly fix this problem. At the mo...

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If I were dealing with several sites...

I would have the sites call the Main router over L2TP +IPsec VPNs. So the devices that are behind carrier grade NAT are the "dialer".

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If I were dealing with several sites...

I would have the sites call the Main router over L2TP +IPsec VPNs. So the devices that are behind carrier grade NAT are the "dialer".

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Kept needing to VPN to the office to reach remote sites. The ACL for client networks expect connections from the office. EoIP from my house to the office. Bridge at home contains VLAN 254 and the EoIP tunnel. Bridge at the office has the local-bridge and EoIP tunnel. Result... on the right SSID (tag...

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Local forwarding here.

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More APs with smaller channel widths.

But if I am relying on the wifi, I go with a different vendor. Other manufactures might cost a bit more... But the lack of complaints is worth it!

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I think it's a simple src-nat on router with IP address 172.16.100.1. If that router is Mikrotik, then simple /ip firewall nat add chain=srcnat action=src-nat dst-address=172.16.100.100 to-addresses=172.16.100.1 So whatever passing that router on the way towards router will get NATed. I usually add...

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I have a hAP AC2 at home, and it connects to the CCR at my office using EoIP + IPSec.

Been stable for a few weeks.

I have one SSID here tied to the bridge the EoIP tunnel connects too. So when I need an office resource... I jump to that SSID.

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You could check if an interface is active. Then if than based on that.

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Used the audience again for a few weeks. It seemed better...

But the new R550 which is WiFi6 really trounced it.

The audience is louder and let's 5ghz things connect farther away... But it slows down everything.

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All the places that pressured me to put Facebook wifi on their Ruckus Systems... Have all taken it off. (About 15 bars and restaurants)

What a difference a few years makes.

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Swapped my audience for a ruckus R550.

"Just till the rest of the hardware for the install shows up..."

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People look over my shoulder when i am working in caps-man...

"Damn... imagine if that could control good radios."

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Use mangle to push that interfaces traffic over the VPN

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Anything new around this topic? I have a case of Hap AC2 with newest firmware, that has this error: wlan1: disconnected, group key exchange timeout For now i tried to enable WMM and change group key timeout to 1 hour, but i doubt this will help, phones are just stuck on Acquiering IP adress. Someti...

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Used a Ruckus R550 for the last 2 weeks...

That's a painful reminder...

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Try and throw them off too early... And they jump back on the same antenna.

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My reject rules is down near 87.

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I also have a CAPsMAN system and sonos speakers that connect to different WiFI APs in my house. They work flawlessly. I didn't know Sonos could have synchronisation issues like you describe. Did you upgrade, try to re-start the setup, change speaker locations etc? From my experience, Sonos and CAPs...

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They do... Lists.

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-70 overlap seems a bit too hot to let something Want to Roam.

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Have them join. Hit the copy to access list. Adjust the rules to allow them into your preferred network. Ban everything else.

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Sonos makes its own mesh network. Wire a boost to your systems, and Sonos stops being an issue.

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I am thinking to change my WiFi interference and better coverage. But of course I need WiFi 6 devices as well to take advantage of that. WiFi 4 works with interference. But Mikrotik's radios don't deal with interference as well as other vendors. This pains me daily on installs... I would be deployi...

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Here is my recommendation /caps-man configuration add country="united states3" datapath.client-to-client-forwarding=yes \ datapath.local-forwarding=yes keepalive-frames=enabled mode=ap name=\ VLAN1 security.authentication-types=wpa2-psk security.encryption=\ aes-ccm security.group-encrypti...

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Been running Audience as a CAP with an hAP AC2 being the caps-man for about a month now. Config Results in this: 2.4 2x2 20mhz Ch1 5.0 2x2 80mhz Ch36 5.8 4x4 80mhz Ch149 Pretty much covers the whole house and has better throughput that the hAP AC2 and cAP AC that sat in the same spot. Its not the Ru...

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If your public IP is dynamic... Use IPCLOUD in your address list. That will dynamically adjust the dst-address. That would allow one rule to work inside and out. You would still need the loopback rule SEPARATE, that reads: src-address = 192.168.100.0/24 dst-address = 192.168.100.0/24 output interfac...

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Znevna,

This one's for you...

From support:
"Hello,

We had some issues with the cloud servers in the past weeks, but if the same issue happens again, please let us know.

Best regards,
#####"

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I have owned Sonos gear since it first came out. Configured hundreds over the years for work. Always wire one unit to the network and let the rest connect to the Sonos Mesh Wifi. Once you do that... Make sure that caps-man allows client to client and local forwarding. Don't put the Sonos on the hous...

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Noticed yesterday that routers that would be using IP cloud1 started popping back up.

Edit/update

Received email this morning 10/05/20
"Hello,

We had some issues with the cloud servers in the past weeks, but if the same issue happens again, please let us know.

Best regards,
######"

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cAP AC has the same MSRP... But I often find them for less than the hAP AC2. Something about sellers thinking of it as a WAP rather than the same unit with less switching ports. Good tip thanks. AC2 currently £68 on amazon which seems to be way better value then the £110 for hAP AC unless I am miss...

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Since you didn't understand the suggestion by @sindy with the static DNS entry to some other public IP to which you have access instead of the MikroTik ones, you can replace almost all of the above "yes, I did" with "No, I did not" and any further "debugging" seems poi...

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Do the devices all share the same ISP? All of my tests have been on Comcast, from various locations on their network. Nope. Geographically diverse too. All over the US. Some are on Comcast. Some on Verizon. Some on Spectrum. Some on ATT Cellular. etc etc etc. The issue where OLD routerOS and IPCLOU...

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yay, another useless topic for the same issue. @sindy suggested something in the OTHER thread, did you do it? On your devices that don't work, point cloud.mikrotik.com and cloud2.mikrotik.com to another public IP where you can monitor incoming packets and see if you receive any UDP packet on port 1...

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Solved: From support: "Hello, We had some issues with the cloud servers in the past weeks, but if the same issue happens again, please let us know. Best regards, ######" I appreciate the help some are trying to provide with the other thread... I think it might be easier to follow if I have...

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routers and CHRs are eligible for IP Cloud (sorry no x86 installs). If you try to get that - you can check the status of the ordeal. Fastest way is to use /ip cloud force-update instead disable/enable - as the first will attempt to re-auth with the server, the second will attempt to send a packet t...

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Znevna, I have set up a rule to look for the 15252 in and out. They are set to log. On one router I will see it sending packets every minute with no response. I have set up a static entry in dns to force cloud2 to the IP address that was listed here. Support also gave me the same IP address. I have ...

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Updated a hEX that would not update with Ipcloud... Used 6.47.4

Ipcloud started working.

The wAP AC behind it... Nope.

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I have a CCR1009 which is almost 5 years old and it has been updating fine - I keep it current, so at one point was on 6.33 or earlier.

My CCR is also about that old... but it has been kept current.

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I used the packet sniffer and when you enable ip cloud on a new device it sends one udp packet to one of the addresses resolved by cloud2.mikrotik.com on port 15252. In my case it is sending data to 159.148.172.251 and 159.148.172.201. I tried on two different cap ac devices. Once the request is ma...

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What can you see if you just traceroute the resolved cloud IPs? This should tell you whether it is a routing issue somewhere between you and the servers or an overload of those servers. I am running ddns update on two units since yesterday and never hit a pause (but I just had a look a few times du...

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Here is the output of a 6.40.8 unit that is not updating either. [admin@mikrotik] > /ip cloud print ddns-enabled: yes update-time: no public-address: 75.17x.xxx.xxx dns-name: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.sn.mynetname.net status: Error: request timed out And since this router has 3 wAP ACs behind it... here is wh...

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I have a new cap ac that was shipped with 6.44 and updated it to 6.47.4 before resetting the config into caps mode. I just ran the following and it worked fine. /ip cloud set ddns-enabled=yes I have seen this across a few units now... ddns is enabled. [admin@MikroTik] /ip cloud> /ip cloud print ddn...

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Solved: From support: "Hello, We had some issues with the cloud servers in the past weeks, but if the same issue happens again, please let us know. Best regards, #####" I have been seeing more and more cases of things not getting responses from IP cloud. Erroring out. Or just looking like ...

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Took a wAP AC from 640.1 to 6.47.4.
IP cloud had never been enabled.
After reboot and update of firmware... IPCloud doesn't work.

Come ON Mikrotik... SOMETHING IS UP.

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Updated a unit from older RouterOS to current. DID NOT DISABLE IP CLOUD IN BETWEEN. IP cloud doesn't work. Confirmed I can ping cloud2 See the router sending packets on the right port. Factory default unit and text imported to resume network. IPCloud doesn't even show updating anymore in winbox... H...

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Updated a router from using Cloud to Cloud2.

Now IP cloud doesn't even show updating.

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I have had the hAP AC, hAP AC2, cAP AC, wAP AC, RB 4011, and the Audience in the same spot. I load up the network with a minimum of 25 clients on that one wAP and start a video stream on my Roku before testing. Then I take the average. Have you also done the tests with RouterOS v7.1beta2 and compar...

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cAP AC has the same MSRP... But I often find them for less than the hAP AC2. Something about sellers thinking of it as a WAP rather than the same unit with less switching ports.

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Got an email from support
..... "The server has not received any info prom this device."

So yeah it looks like Mikrotik broke something on IPCloud 1 relating to 6.40.

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"if caps-man could only control a good radio..."

I type it here all the time. When it comes to wireless... I am going to go with another vendor.

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Some news , I have my IPv4: 207.32.194.24 IPv6: 2605:4e40:0:1fe:: back on-line again. EDIT: btest user is --> btest and btest password is --> btest ( btest & btest ) I set the queue to allow btest-ing up to 4-Gig. Question - Who has a 10-Gig Internet connected Mikrotik I can perform a btest to/...

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Little to the right.

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they can deprecate anytime support for version older than 6.43, why would anyone care about those with so many security issues in them anyway? Because when you try to take a look at an old system that was installed in 2014 and last touched in 2018... knowing that IP cloud(1) has been deprecated wou...

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Since my other post is getting read but not answered... Is the older IP Cloud service still working? cloud.mikrotik.com I have a few older routers out there that I think still use the old service. Was it shut down or is something else going on? ############ UPDATE: Got an email from support (several...

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Go to interfaces.
Find your WAN interface.
Go to status. You will see up/down since last reboot.

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Why not slide the board out of the case?

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With a printer a few years back...
I couldn't get it to connect to WPS.

Made an unencrypted network and connected the printer is o that. Then I used the web GUI of the printer to enter the SSID and password for the actual network. Hit apply and the printer has been on wireless for several years now.

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So do both my hAP ac & RB4011, with a 866Mbps PHY rate (OnePlus 5T as client). I have had the hAP AC, hAP AC2, cAP AC, wAP AC, RB 4011, and the Audience in the same spot. I load up the network with a minimum of 25 clients on that one wAP and start a video stream on my Roku before testing. Then ...

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My R610 would get up near 400/400 So do both my hAP ac & RB4011, with a 866Mbps PHY rate (OnePlus 5T as client). I have had the hAP AC, hAP AC2, cAP AC, wAP AC, RB 4011, and the Audience in the same spot. I load up the network with a minimum of 25 clients on that one wAP and start a video strea...

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log into one of the caps and watch its logs.

If they can't reach the controller... that would explain it.

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Is the older IP Cloud service still working?
cloud.mikrotik.com

I have a few older routers out there that I think still use the old service.

Was it shut down or is it just cranky yesterday and today?

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My R610 would get up near 400/400 So do both my hAP ac & RB4011, with a 866Mbps PHY rate (OnePlus 5T as client). I have had the hAP AC, hAP AC2, cAP AC, wAP AC, RB 4011, and the Audience in the same spot. I load up the network with a minimum of 25 clients on that one wAP and start a video strea...

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Sorinp, His post looks like he stated he has a hAP AC2 and a cAP AC. Yeap, you're right. Sorry for missing that. I have a hAP AC2 down in the basement running caps-man. The radio is not turned on. Then there is an Audience sitting in my living room set to use all 3 radios as APs. Which results in: ...

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Sorinp, His post looks like he stated he has a hAP AC2 and a cAP AC. Yeap, you're right. Sorry for missing that. I have a hAP AC2 down in the basement running caps-man. The radio is not turned on. Then there is an Audience sitting in my living room set to use all 3 radios as APs. Which results in: ...

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Get a bunch of wAP AC and spread them around.

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Sorinp,

His post looks like he stated he has a hAP AC2 and a cAP AC.

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20 MHz 2.4 signals go 2 channels over.
So 1 interferes on 2 and 3.
5 would interfere on 4 and 3. 6 and 7.

1 6 11. Repeat with geographic boundaries.

Setting the power levels is the next step. (After physical placement again)

Then the reject rules.

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Drop rule.

Then somewhere above the drop rule... An accept rule from an address list that you approve of.

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It's not L2TP that I'm an trying to get to work. It's an ipsec site to site vpn between firewalls. I can get L2TP to work ok.

I get that.

I am telling you about something that actually works.

Hoping you could maybe look at that and figure out what "might be helpful" for your issue.

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I have a "portable camera system" that uses a similar link. The camera system is a box with several cameras attached. There is a Netgear wireless modem in the box. This connects to a hAP AC2. The output of that goes to a switch to drive the cameras. The Netgear is on ATT cellular and has c...

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Use channels 1 6 11.
Turn down the transit power on APs. (Or place them better)
Use that access control list... But set the reject LOWER.

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"I like to listen to my stereo from 2 rooms away..."
Said by no one EVER!

Put wireless access points where devices are used.

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I have had to use a cAP AC as a router. The hAP AC2 was out of stock for months and I needed to get a system online.

As most resi systems only have 1 wan feed... Its not outside the realm of reasonable to make it a router.

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Had to loan out my Ruckus R610. Reconfigured an Audience to be the WAP (cap) for my house. Its 3 radios 2.4 2x2 5.0 2x2 5.8 4x4 All the radios are serving clients... and between me working and the kid in Zoom class... not dropping yet. I am on the 4x4 (5.8) radio and he happens to be in the 2x2 (5.0...

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I think beamforming (the explicit/standard 802.11ac one) is more important than MU-MIMO because it focuses the signal to clients and thus they can negotiate better data rates with the AP. Although MU-MIMO can help on a four chain radio (like the RB4011 or the Audience) with several devices using th...

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I pay the 75 bucks a year to Domotz.

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MU-MIMO never worked/supported...
And busy environments cause the 2.4 radios to "give up".

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Default settings in caps-man have local forwarding turned off and client to client forwarding turned off.

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nobody has 40 locations liar

Umm what?

I have been deploying Mikrotiks for around 10 years now. I assure you... I have done more than 40 sites in a month during peaks.

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Check the log?

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Put APs where you need signal... Not 2 walls away.

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Set channel width to 20 is a pretty good rule for 2.4 too.

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The easiest way is to use capsman forwarding mode, by defining the bridge in capsman datapath configuration and not enabling local forwarding traffic for the new ssid will be sent to the bridge without vlans.

If you don't mind slowing your throughput to a crawl... Go right ahead and do this.

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Besides, you can ignore the rants...MikroTik does supply rocksolid WiFi solutions. They just require proper setup . I am sorry... That's just not true. Mikrotik wireless has been behind the times for a while now. They never got MU-MIMO working. And the 2.4 radios will flat out stop accepting client...

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The point of the forum is to share information peer to peer. So none of this crap from manufactures like... "Well we have never heard of that before." Further more... I would go weeks between emails with support about their crap wireless. Only bitching about it on the forum got them to pub...

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No betas for me... Or my end users.

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OLD issue/topic. No fix.

Move it to trash (where the crs354-48G/P should be also).

Hahaha

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Audience?

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i believe in Mikrotik I believe I need a different vendor for wireless. Routers have been good to me. Switches have burned me. Wireless has dragged consistently. I invested a lot of time in caps-man only to have to abandon it for radio performance. Stick with other vendors for switching and wireles...

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It doesn't make sense to use CAPsMAN on the (single) device it is managing. So, no...just config the hAP ac2 as preferred.
I use CAPsMAN if there are three or more accesspoints involved.

Audience

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Homes are not exempt. Business at least usually have hours of operation. Homes owners can, will and do call anytime!

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Mangle to mark the connections.

Routing rule to catch the output.

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Need a loop back rule too.

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how to reboot the router monthly
Why?

Exactly!

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I find it easiest to do with RSC files.

But you can copy a backup onto a new unit... You have to reset the MACs afterwords.

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Do you have a public IP at the LTE modem.

In the US... You don't unless you paid extra for a static IP.

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Woohoo! Figured it out with your recommendation to set the country code in the CAPsMAN Configuration, and a bit of playing around. Thank you for your quick response, it is greatly appreciated! For anyone else that may come across this, I had to do a few things to get the WAP AC broadcasting on both...

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Sorry guys, could you please move your "i hate wireless from mtik" to another, different thread? we need to get this port 1 till 8 issue resolved quickly, but to mix all up here doesnt help much. thank you. Mikrotik specifically asked for it... But I did include the problem with my switch...

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>> So what I meant was... I have found that their is a pretty common problem that I run into using Mikrotik Wireless that I can solve by swapping vendors. >> AND THAT I DO NOT SPEC MIKROTIK RADIOS FOR ANYTHING CRITICAL ANYMORE. I know we're getting off topic here but which vendor did you switch to?...

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Also... they finally admitted there is "just nothing they can do about" busy airtime. So I stopped using their wireless radios. What do you mean by that? To improve stability in a high noise environment you can enable RTS/CTS. You can always fine-tune the wireless interface by adjusting h...

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I think the most important thing is stability. As for others, they are still acceptable. The latest version is not stable. In my impression, the previous version is very stable. Fully agree. Stability is a must. The rest is nice to have. For my experience the 6.45.6 is the most stable version. (The...

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Might have been nice if they ever got it working.

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I get right in the Low 300s point blank with AC2 radios from Mikrotik. well as long as the environment is not crowded.

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Hi GotSprings, You populate the Wap-R ac with what ever LTE PCIe modem you want. My case an Quectel EP06. The modem works pretty good and is available in various versions and think one that fits well the US. I really love this thing. I use it as a Wifi AP for the garden (switch Wifi on/off via SMS)...

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Dug back into the unit Yesterday. Defaulted the unit with NO CONFIGURATION. Manually put in a DHCP client and built a bridge for the interfaces. Put in my Caps-Man Template. This made it possible to make use of the 4x4 AC radio for clients. The 2x2 5Ghz Radio is currently Turned off... lets see how ...

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The new wAP-R-AC is the great 4 core ARM with 2.4GHz, 5GHz and a mini-PCie slot and LTE antennas in the classic wAP case. https://mikrotik.com/product/wap_r_ac If only Mikrotik Cellular could work worth a crap in the US... I WOULD BE ALL OVER THIS THING!!! Set it up as my failover for commercial in...

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I have Gigabit service. The Audience Never came close to 500M. Used it as a WAP running caps-man with it's wireless as the cap. (What it is designed to do). And much like every other Mikrotik WAP I have ever used (ONCE THEY SHAKE THE INITIAL BUGS OUT)... it slammed into a brick wall right around 300...

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Ok... well here is an idea. So in practice... assuming your PiHole sits at 192.168.1.3 Set your DHCP server to tell clients to use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. Make a firewall address list named Google /ip firewall address-list add address=8.8.8.8 comment="GoogleDNS" list=Google add address=8.8.4....

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So in caps-man we are supposed to lower transmit power.
I am (and it is working perfectly)

Aside from all the mikrotik WiFi glitches... lowering power level like this has worked for me too.

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From the Wiki:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:C ... e_TX_power

So in caps-man we are supposed to lower transmit power.

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However according to Mikrotik you are not supposed to adjust tx power, only antenna gain.

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Is that the same for caps-man?

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Put a back up controller on site? In wireless, there is a configuration option to have more than one caps-man. I tried running my inlaws wireless from my office... and any hickup caused the APs to "return to adoption mode." All my caps-man jobs have been with the ROUTER ONSITE running Caps...

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I mean... I did answer 2 hours and 36 minutes after you posted...

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You could run caps-man on your switch?

Then you could set up your wireless profile in caps-man config. Once that's set... All you need to do on the APs is set the to caps-mode. You can do this in cli with one line. Or you can do it by press and hold on the WAP at Power Up.

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If caps-man is running on your router...

Telnet to the capAC.
/system reset-configuration skip-backup=yes caps-mode=yes

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Posted before.... Here are a few ways to get the public IP address Pick IP From Route (add WAN to your WAN connection name. ie. ether1-WAN) :global Stat [/ip route get [find gateway~"WAN"] pref-src] Pick IP from Address (add WAN to your WAN connection name. ie. ether1-WAN) :global OnEtherS...

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/IP firewall mangle

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Set the Mikrotik to use a DNS other than piehole... Like 8.8.8.8, 1.1.1.1. Then in your DHCP server... Set the DNS value under network to be piehole, Mikrotik. If piehole doesn't work... The client will ask the Mikrotik. I tried this and it doesn't work Can you tell where it fails? Is it that the p...

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this switch is cheap for the capabilities it has, but for broken hardware its too much... If it doesn't work... it doesn't mater what it costs. Also... they finally admitted there is "just nothing they can do about" busy airtime. So I stopped using their wireless radios. Routing... Love T...

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Set the Mikrotik to use a DNS other than piehole... Like 8.8.8.8, 1.1.1.1. Then in your DHCP server... Set the DNS value under network to be piehole, Mikrotik. If piehole doesn't work... The client will ask the Mikrotik. I tried this and it doesn't work Can you tell where it fails? Is it that the p...

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Broadcasts don't work over VPN. So unless you use EoIP from Tik to Tik... You are not going to see the printer via airprint. Now if you can set the IP address of that printer on your device... That would work.

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I meant: would a CRS326 running RouterOS be a more stable solution?

Changing vendors would be "more stable".

Mikrotik can route... But man... Switching and wireless is absolutely not in the same league.

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Thanks for the assist bpwl.

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We'll check that out... Once you change indoor to any, you get the upper frequencies.

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I have worked on caps-man for some time now. Today I needed to take my home wireless AP out as it's needed for a commercial install. Still had a cAP AC in my trunk. So it seemed a good time to put it back online. Unit was defaulted and rather than. Setup cap... I set it up as an Access Point. Went i...

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Thanks for the replies. Decided to sell the Mikrotik gear on eBay and use something else - routers and switches are great from MikroTik but wireless is terrible IMO. "Terrible" is a bit much. When it comes to routing... I am confident I can beat a Tik into what I need. When it comes to wi...

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Use a wireless wire for a PtP link. I got nearly 950Megs over a wireless connection with that product. Would definitely try it to link the buildings.

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And this is "swatting a fly with a SHOTGUN"... but here is a little tip to help out if you have 2.4 radios doing this to you... First... Once you set up caps-man... NAME ALL YOUR RADIOS SOMETHING WITH 2.4 IN IT. (i.e. : caps-man interface name=Router_2.4) /system scheduler add interval=1d ...

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BPWL. That system on main street was only listed as it was obvious. But as also stated in that post... Lots of standard US HOME deployments. Places where I wouldn't call interference "that high". Problems are less frequent... But still occurs. Now here... 2 cAP ACs will run about $140. The...

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So your main point is a 240$ AP from Rukus is better than a 50$ AP from MK? My point is maybe you were trying to use the MK in a setup they were never meant to support ( heavy noise, lots of clients) ? Because I have 3 CAP ACs at home with capsman and around 30 Wifi Clients and I have yet to see an...

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Gotsprings, in very particular cases we will see issues with all vendors. People are buying Tiks and thinking they will get cheap Ciscos or Arubas. They will not, especially discussing Wifi. As people say here, MK is great for routing, mediocre for WIFI. But I prefer to have everything from the sam...

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That seems to be the product its built to compete with. Anyone done the comparisons yet? In the Mesh world and for busy home networks, based on my field experiences nobody beats Netgear RBKxx systems -- NOBODY period FULL Stop Ruckus --- The only manufacturer that has successfully exploited Spatial...

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I gave the audience a few months... Same old quirks here and there. Shutting of a radio was new to me. I have seen Tik radios stop accepting clients until rebooted... but actually disabled and stopped transmitting the SSID... that was new. R610 was on sale for $270. Couldn't pass that up. Configured...

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Are you saying that your Router is Running Caps-Man? Thats fine if it is... (Most common deployment I would think.) the firewall will function at your router like normal. If you have LOCAL FORWARDING unchecked... all traffic is tunneled back to the Caps-Man Controller. This cause a considerable slow...

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Because you can't fast track and actually have to route and use encryption, for what you asked But the configuration shows neither - fasttracking cannot speed up anything as the firewall is not there at all, and encryption is not used either. Do I read it right that the main WAN is PPPoE? I can't g...

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Tech Lord... Point 2 about stability... With Tik Radios... In noisy environments radios will just stop accepting clients and will continue doing this until rebooted. Then devices can connect for some amount of time again. Until its time to reboot again. My work around was to keep a printer on the sa...

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Because you can't fast track and actually have to route and use encryption, for what you asked

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Can you use a VPN to go faster than your current internet speed?
Is that what you asked?

If so, in short... No.

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Once again... The cost savings are not equal to the drop in performance.

Also as stated in another post... I picked up a Ruckus R610 for $270 US. It absolutely beats the Audience that sat in the same spot for several months. Throughput. Number of clients. Connectivity. It's just not close.

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2011 is way to slow to hit 600 for just straight NAT. Pick up an hAP AC2. Much better processor and IPSec acceleration built in.

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Which model?

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Limit bandwidth of the others

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A ruckus R710 is a pretty dated unit. An R510 or R610 is newer and I would take a R610 over the R710 anyday.

Now lets also skip the B--L$h!+. Ruckus has been on Promo for nearly 2 years. The $650 R510 is readily available on Amazon for ~$250. AND STOMPS ALL OVER THE AUDIENCE.

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I was incredibly excited when caps-man first came out. I spent months tweaking and coming up with some really neat stuff. Mimicking features found in wireless systems costing 10-20 times more. But... I was wasting a TREMENDOUS amount of time on some pretty bad radios. You can tweak Mikrotik wireless...

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Local forwarding will improve performance. However the radios themselves are "performance limited" compared to other manufactures.

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/caps-man interface channel tx-power

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