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by WirelessRudy
Wed May 30, 2018 3:17 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42.3 [current]
Replies: 80
Views: 23116

Re: v6.42.3 [current]

RouterOS version 6.42.3 has been released in public "current" channel!
*) wireless - improved Nv2 PtMP performance;
Does this improvement need an upgrade of AP only or all CPE's need to have the upgrade? Or if not, what minimal version do CPE's need to have to work with this improvement?
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 30, 2018 3:13 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42.3 [current]
Replies: 80
Views: 23116

Re: v6.42.3 [current]

RouterOS version 6.42.3 has been released in public "current" channel! *) wireless - improved client "channel-width" detection; Can we have an explanation on this one. How is it improved? What did not happen before? If client is set at 20Mhz where AP is at 40Mhz or higher client simply can't commun...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 24, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: LHG 60 project in Hawaii
Replies: 99
Views: 20620

Re: LHG 60 project in Hawaii

WHAT? "LEDS show you"?? Meaning they tell me to; "go left", or "go right"? "Go up", or "go down"?? Exactly, depending on used beam-forming pattern LHG can tell you where to turn it. LED sticker comes with small arrows and device "blinks you to the right direction" Ok, that would be nice. But then I...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 24, 2018 1:57 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)
Replies: 38
Views: 11407

Re: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)

I'm just saying that mikrotik distributors are not making much effort to make the new products available. This is not MK's fault but we can not import from other countries that have the product in stock. p.s. New estimated Availability: Third week of June I agree on the first line. In my experience...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 24, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

When i did tests with 6.43rc fixes the possibility of one client to overload the AP but overall throughput of the AP is low in 6.43rc. One client can go to 100mbps in 6.42 but in 6.43rc hardly going to 60mbps What rc version did you actually test? If this is the latest then MT needs to go back to t...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 23, 2018 6:08 pm
Forum: General
Topic: LHG 60 project in Hawaii
Replies: 99
Views: 20620

Re: LHG 60 project in Hawaii

wAP60 has a specially designed and calibrated beamforming antenna with pre-configured patterns. you can't use it with custom antennas and I am surprised it works for you at all. OK, and how is this with LHG 60? On bigger distances 'non' beamforming 60Ghz devices are very hard to align. How is this ...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 23, 2018 6:04 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

So we now have several users that confirm indeed NV2 has issues and in several occasions 802.11 or nstreme actually works better.... Last night spend two hours to read the 6.43.rc changelog and related forum tread and after several version it seems some changes (they call it 'improvements') are made...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 22, 2018 8:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: LHG 60 project in Hawaii
Replies: 99
Views: 20620

Re: LHG 60 project in Hawaii

I am worried about LHG in snowy weather and with jirous with radom it should be better... You could be right here. Somewhere on the forum a guy says the 5Ghz LHG's don't work in snow. The snow sticks to the disk and completely destroys the elips needed to reflect the radio waves. And due the design...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 22, 2018 8:34 pm
Forum: General
Topic: LHG 60 project in Hawaii
Replies: 99
Views: 20620

Re: LHG 60 project in Hawaii

I am worried about LHG in snowy weather and with jirous with radom it should be better... You could be right here. Somewhere on the forum a guy says the 5Ghz LHG's don't work in snow. The snow sticks to the disk and completely destroys the elips needed to reflect the radio waves. And due the design...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 22, 2018 8:22 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Feature requests
Replies: 1160
Views: 208408

Re: Feature requests

Those units that have multiple PoE out ports under 'Health' menu the option to read the amps - watts of the input. Thus we can see what the total consumption is for attached devices AND this unit itself. For many battery/solar operated units it's quit handy to see what the 'real' average power consu...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 22, 2018 7:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: LHG 60 project in Hawaii
Replies: 99
Views: 20620

Re: LHG 60 project in Hawaii

wAP60 has a specially designed and calibrated beamforming antenna with pre-configured patterns. you can't use it with custom antennas and I am surprised it works for you at all. OK, and how is this with LHG 60? On bigger distances 'non' beamforming 60Ghz devices are very hard to align. How is this ...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 22, 2018 7:26 pm
Forum: General
Topic: LHG 60 project in Hawaii
Replies: 99
Views: 20620

Re: LHG 60 project in Hawaii

Antonsb I hope you are true ;-) And I hope to see a version with integrated 5 Ghz backup And I hope they don't make the same mistake then as Ignitenet. Most of us will use 60Ghz to escape from the 5Ghz overloaded spectrum. But if the backup solution now is that it still needs to run this advantage ...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 22, 2018 7:09 pm
Forum: General
Topic: LHG 60 project in Hawaii
Replies: 99
Views: 20620

Re: LHG 60 project in Hawaii

Very nice indeed. But suppliers in Europe still can't deliver them. "Mid June" is best answer I get......
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 21, 2018 8:42 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Client authentication, where? And how?
Replies: 2
Views: 440

Re: Client authentication, where? And how?

The fact is that large providers have historically been able to provide services via the PPPoE protocol and vendors that sold them hardware should support it. In fact: vendors got money, providers don't need to change something in their network. Over time, it has not become worse, and cold patches ...
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 21, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting
Replies: 67
Views: 15633

Re: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting

I think these guys ever developed the 'radio mobile' or similar programs should do the next; These programs give nice theoretical spectral scenery based upon standard atmospheric conditions, the geographical location and elevation of terrain combined with a database of some antena characteristics an...
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 21, 2018 7:56 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?
Replies: 17
Views: 3006

Re: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?

Forgot to mention that if we would be able to 'split' the bandwidth of each channel 'in halve' or quarters, it would give us still even more flexibility. Given speeds at the present bandwidth are excessively more than what we now or the near future need.... (Can anybody show me a realistic example w...
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 21, 2018 7:38 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?
Replies: 17
Views: 3006

Re: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?

So far it all works out fine: One tower: 4 x 60Ghz Metrolinq's backhauls running towards 200 - 400 meter remote towers. They do backhauling and deliver 200-800Mbps one way traffic what is plenty for us... Same tower: 4 x 60Ghz Mikrotik AP's. Each has at least 2 clients connected, one actually has 5 ...
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 21, 2018 7:06 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Have you eliminated all the ar7240 stations and still having problems? that was the cause of the new nv2 instability for me. I have tested it now on 4-5 P2MP networks. One Omnitk-5ac that has only 3 SXT's (2 x rb sXT 5nD r2 and one rb DISCG-5acD), so all relative 'new' devices and still the differe...
by WirelessRudy
Fri May 18, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Client authentication, where? And how?
Replies: 2
Views: 440

Client authentication, where? And how?

I am wondering what is the general use of authentication of clients on a WISP or FISP (fixed line) Network. What are operators usually using, and where? We ever started with simple dhcp server and assigned an IP to the client antenna. Then we moved to use a more centralized system with the use of a ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 17, 2018 7:14 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Hi, first of all I'm sorry that my English is not very good I have updated to version 6.42.1 around 20 APs and since I updated them there are clients that disconnect and stay reconnecting Some take minutes to connect and others have taken hours This did not happen to me before. In all my APs the cl...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 17, 2018 1:10 pm
Forum: General
Topic: arm devices with issues
Replies: 0
Views: 353

arm devices with issues

We have now some 30-/40 arm devices fit in the field at different locations. But we have several that give us lots of problems. To start with, any ROS older then 6.42 doesn't work for us since we use PPPoE-client on the wlan and older ROS versions just don't work on 'arm' devices. Although a 'scan' ...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 16, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins
Replies: 10
Views: 1159

Re: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins

............... Out of curiosity after my experiences of the tests from yesterday and before I'd tried 802.11 now here as well. Bang, immediately I double the throughput on several devices! Now suddenly 50, 60 Mbps to the same units that never ran that in NV2. .... Has the latency increased with 80...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 16, 2018 1:16 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins
Replies: 10
Views: 1159

Re: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins

Today a new discovery, well "discovery..." We have one Omnitik 'n' serving some 20 clients, mainly SXT's. Today we needed to test a LHG that couldn't connect in the field. So I set it up to connect to this Omnitik from my house.. no problem whatsover. The Omnitik runs some 20-25Mbps towards clients ...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 16, 2018 1:09 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins
Replies: 10
Views: 1159

Re: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins

Well done for taking the time to conduct these tests, I am currently disabling unused system packages (Hotspot, Ipv6,mpls,routing) on the CPE's to see if there any improvements, as ROS is almost all based on software and recall what another user posted way back and I paraphrase "Just because you ca...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 15, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins
Replies: 10
Views: 1159

Re: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins

Hi WirelessRudy, If you have any questions, I'll explain or comment. Interesting. Out of curiosity why are you running nv2-mode=fixed-downlink ? It doesn't seem like a fair comparison to the other modes which will essentially have twice the airtime available to them? The downlink rate is set to 50 ...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 15, 2018 1:56 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins
Replies: 10
Views: 1159

Re: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins

This is the spreadsheet I made. If you have any questions, I'll explain or comment.
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 15, 2018 1:51 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins
Replies: 10
Views: 1159

After extensive tests; NV2 failes. Nstreme wins

Today I finished some extensive testing on a 4 km backhaul between a Netmetal and 911G-5HPacD I started with v.6.40.5, tested v.6.40.8 and ended with latest 'current' v.6.41.1 I tried both 'n' protocol as 'ac' for all three working modes. nstreme, 802.11 and NV2. First in v.6.40.5 I tried to find th...
by WirelessRudy
Fri May 11, 2018 5:30 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Keep a Topic. I do not care about GPS. Currently NV2 itself does not work properly. NV2 needs to be addressed in particular.
Right.. and True"
by WirelessRudy
Fri May 11, 2018 12:27 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

You mean clients of Sector A should not see clients of Sector B? If so, that's fair enough. And it's achievable with quality antennas with good F/B ratios. But sync is advantageous only on ABAB or ABCD setups. Only then it works. But in that case non syncd networks also works..... The sync makes on...
by WirelessRudy
Fri May 11, 2018 1:18 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

What with NV2 sync ? Is someone use in production NV2 sync (master-slave) and reuse same frequency on "behind" sectors on the same tower ? Are this function work OK or not ? We tried it, as well as others. Unless you have full 100% isolation for participating AP's it doesn't. So far haven't heard h...
by WirelessRudy
Fri May 11, 2018 12:32 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

I would add to this list but no sure its important or required but TDMA is Time -division multiple access, we have set all our CPE's and AP's in fact every router to sync to NTP pools, this for accurate time on logs and maybe this has helped our AP's and CPE's Imho: No, it doesn't mean anything to ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 10, 2018 7:56 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

- Apart from that, 'ac' chipsets are 1 to 2dB more powerful then its 'n' counterparts. See the specs of MT radios. (An SXT-5Lite has 22dBm at MCS7 where the SXT-5acLite has 25dBm. An Omnitik has 26dBm at MCS7 but the Omnitik-ac has 27dBm. - Newer chipsets (like the 'ac' chipset) usually also have b...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 10, 2018 6:01 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Sure, 802.11ac is better than 11n. It must be. But other manufacturers (we all know which ones) still use some implementation of TDMA instead of saving the costs and using industry developed mainstream protocol. Even some LTE networks use TDD based TDMA. So one way or another it seems TDMA is the w...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 10, 2018 11:33 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Usage of 802.11 versus NV2 is not only a matter of 'TDMA is newer developed and thus should be better'. In fact the new 802.11ac protocol has several improvements over 802.11-n which makes it a very good protocol if it is used in combination with rts/cts setting and a 'many' station P2MP network rel...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 09, 2018 2:59 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

You wrote that you have to test each AP separate, because the in different sectors the performance may differ. How you observed any patterns or AP/CPE combinations on which the issue repeats more often? This would give us valuable info to work with and improve the performance and stability. Well, t...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 09, 2018 12:52 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Just done a test on a NetMetal 5 (921UAGS-5SHPacD) with 28 clients associated that runs on v.6.42.1 and latest firmware. AP radio is on 'only-N', 20/40MHz Ce, NV2 protocol, some fixed MCS rates, Hw. Retries = 3, 75% dynamic downlink mode and tdma 2ms period size. I have one client with SEXTANT (v6....
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 09, 2018 12:45 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Narrowing the scan-list on the CPE will reproduce what you are describing, on the AP it shouldn't have any effect whatsoever. After a reboot we have noticed a much faster clients wireless registration when scan list it reduced, if it's set to Default or in the above example it will take longer. Tha...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 08, 2018 10:29 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Just curious why you have set the scan-list=5000-6000 as this results in the AP to listen to all frequencies between 5-6GHz - we when using 20Mhz channels set our AP's -/+ 20Mhz above and below the AP frequency, so for AP freq=5360 scan-list=5340-5480, just to add further we also set hw-retries=5, ...
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 07, 2018 11:45 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?
Replies: 17
Views: 3006

Re: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?

Those are real field tests
Good! When can we finally buy them?
I mean, already saw the pictures in Venice, spring 2017.......
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 07, 2018 9:00 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?
Replies: 17
Views: 3006

Re: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?

They have a longer range unit now, the "Dish" version. Of course it's the antenna what makes the difference. But that will only be suited to point to point links. I guess one of those "Dish" units used as CPE would get a much longer range than 200 m connecting to a w60AP unit. As CPE they will go f...
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 07, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)
Replies: 38
Views: 11407

Re: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)

HomeplugAV200 uses OFDM carriers between 2 and 32 MHz. Newer HomeplugAV standards extend to 85 MHz or more. Quality Brands will apply a PSD-mask to their devices to circumvent the 27 MHz ham band. Powerline communication is absolutely worst use of radio spectrum ever. While pretending it's only wir...
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 07, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?
Replies: 17
Views: 3006

Re: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?

60 Ghz indeed works perfect for short range high capacity back haul links. We have a 200 mtr, a 205 mtr. a 305 mtr and a 410 mtrs link from IgniteNet running. These are absolutely interference free links that can easy transport the 200-400Mbps of internet traffic (80/20 D/U) we'd only see at peak ti...
by WirelessRudy
Sun May 06, 2018 7:30 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)
Replies: 38
Views: 11407

Re: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)

PWR-Line devices don't work this way. They work more like WiFi using OFDM. -> Many small QAM carriers. HomeplugAV200 uses OFDM carriers between 2 and 32 MHz. Newer HomeplugAV standards extend to 85 MHz or more. Quality Brands will apply a PSD-mask to their devices to circumvent the 27 MHz ham band....
by WirelessRudy
Sun May 06, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?
Replies: 17
Views: 3006

Re: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?

indoor router on 60ghz? trollolol... i suggest to go to technical unviersity and get a basic physics. 2nd, attenuation of 60gsmthz - 3ch more than enought 3rd, for such freq, LOS and high directional accuracy is one of the requirements... (ptp <500m) 4rd, mostly ppl uses it instead of building fibe...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 05, 2018 8:28 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)
Replies: 38
Views: 11407

Re: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)

Is there any other further info about PWR-Line AP? will it run on different phase electricity ? how long the approx maximum range between A and B ? tq Basically these units communicate by putting a 27Mhz signal on the electricity wires (And that causes heavy interferences for those 27MC band radio ...
by WirelessRudy
Fri May 04, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?
Replies: 17
Views: 3006

Re: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?

I think somewhere it was stated that 3 channel limitation is from the used 802.11ad radio chip, so that's probably not going to change unless they upgrade hardware. Or it would be nice to get new 60GHz radios with SFP or new 2.5/5Gbit/s wired ports so full channel capacity can be utilized. Would be...
by WirelessRudy
Fri May 04, 2018 1:51 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?
Replies: 17
Views: 3006

Only 3 x 60Ghz bands for 60G devices?

Mikrotik has only 3 60Ghz channels for use. 58.32Ghz, 60.48Ghz and 62.64Ghz. I have a couple of Metrolinq's 60Ghz units and they have for Spain 4 channels available. 58.32Ghz, 60.48Ghz, 62.64Ghz and 64.80Ghz. Why is this? I noticed that Mikrotik doesn't have any country setting in the 60Ghz wireless...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 02, 2018 11:50 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)
Replies: 38
Views: 11407

Re: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)

How soon will the LtAP mini LTE kit be made available for purchase?
It is already available.
And 60Ghz Wireless Wire Dish?
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 02, 2018 12:48 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Firmware: As for firmware upgrades, I haven’t noticed any difference in wireless performance. What you call firmware here, to my understanding is a RouterBOOT bootloader, which has nothing to do with device performance after it boots to OS. But MT staff could verify if it has any effect or not. To ...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 01, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)
Replies: 38
Views: 11407

Re: Newsletter #82 (May 2018)

Would really like to know when the 60Ghz Wireless Wire Dish will be available at dealers. 1. Are these beamforming? 2. At what distance could they be connected to a Wap60G access point? 3. At 1.500+ meters, how fast would the capacity go down? What would be the rain impact? Any that already tried so...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 01, 2018 12:52 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

......................... I've noticed that older gen chipsets perform poorly and also drag down whole AP a little. Also older chipsets don't support Short GI on 20MHz channels. I rotate and replace old 5nD and 5HPnD devices and upgrade to newer ones when possible. Got boxes full of waste 5nD's lyi...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 01, 2018 12:49 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Well, I cannot guarantee that it’ll do a lot, but at least short GI gives additional capacity by reaching higher datarates on 20MHz. Off course it will. It reduces some overhead traffic which will payout if you are trying to squeeze the max out of a connection. But if the link has difficult spectra...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:14 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Is that SEXTANT of older generation by chance? I mean 5nD or something.. I've noticed that older gen chipsets perform poorly and also drag down whole AP a little. Also older chipsets don't support Short GI on 20MHz channels. I rotate and replace old 5nD and 5HPnD devices and upgrade to newer ones w...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:06 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Just done a test on a NetMetal 5 (921UAGS-5SHPacD) with 28 clients associated that runs on v.6.42.1 and latest firmware. AP radio is on 'only-N', 20/40MHz Ce, NV2 protocol, some fixed MCS rates, Hw. Retries = 3, 75% dynamic downlink mode and tdma 2ms period size. I have one client with SEXTANT (v6.4...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:10 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

What is final conclusion for best practice setup after this update ? TDMA Period: fiksed 2-3-4 ms or Auto ? Fixed or Dynamic downlink ? On the networks I tested dynamic download worked best. But tdma period is still not conclusive by me. I tend to use 2ms but don't see a lot of difference between '...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:48 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Esp with full towers the limited (expensive) resource is spectrum. So squezing >100MBit out of a 10MHz Channel and reusing the same freq is worth the money. Are you talking bits per second or bytes? I am referring to 100Mbps. That would equal to only 12,5Mega Bits per second (KB/s) Would be interes...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:36 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

You are kidding. You have 5X hangin and do this fiddling around with nv2 :-o. I've our first 5XHD hanging so 5X is already old stuff. There is no way I waste a second longer on trying to squeeze nv2 to get a poor link at best. We stay with MT routing and might use the upcoming switches. But wireles...
by WirelessRudy
Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

AP side; NetMetal on 24dBi Jirious. Full 30dBm power Client side; LHG-5acXL Full 27dBm power. ROS v6.42rc29 Link is 6km and signal on the AP is -50/-51dBm Bandwidth of the channel is 40Mhz wide and we've set the rates fixed for MCS7 (ac) and on each protocol and each setting we have a stable 270Mbps...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:10 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42 [current]
Replies: 147
Views: 28182

Re: v6.42 [current]

Ce - eC automatic selection? Just a guess.
For AP? Because for station any 20/40/80 setting wil work with AP. No matter what AP is using. As long as the frequency of the scan range can 'see' the AP it will adapt.
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:07 am
Forum: RouterOS v7 BETA
Topic: v6.42 [current]
Replies: 147
Views: 28182

Re: v6.42 [current]

What is the wireless XX option under Channel width?
Maybe set your wifi channel to combined ce and ec!
?? How is that? It can only be Ce or eC. The eCe would make a 60Mhz wide channel which is not supported by 802.11ac
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:04 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42 [current]
Replies: 147
Views: 28182

Re: v6.42 [current]

Rb2011 lost wireless option after the upgrade. I see the wireless 6.42 package is still in the files. I added the wireless package from the extras package and it won't load either. Many reboots and still no install. Just upgraded my rb2011 this afternoon and wireless just works..... try to downgrad...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:58 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience
Replies: 36
Views: 12341

Re: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience

What would the back to back noise be of these units? Would they be able to work back to back on a pole in the same frequency? We only have 3 to use and if we have a tower with 4 sectors plus maybe one or two P2P's leaving we already have to start to make a puzzle. Some more antenna and radiation cha...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:54 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience
Replies: 36
Views: 12341

Re: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience

Let's see how many client we can hook up. Please note that it is currently limited to only 8 clients at a time. See page 16 of the 60G presentation from the MUM in Berlin. Yes I am aware of this. But some wrote somewhere that after 4 things were spiraling down.... And is this limit just hardware li...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:48 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience
Replies: 36
Views: 12341

Re: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience

Glad to hear that you have managed to establish link with so far distances. but please keep in mind that these wAP units are targeted mainly for 100 m distances (full speed). All of the experiments mentioned within this topic has exceeded this distance. I thought with the latest ROS this was upgrad...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:11 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience
Replies: 36
Views: 12341

Re: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience

One AP with one client on 94 and the other at 108 meters. Each one along could have some 800Mbps download. If running both up and down we see some 1,4 - 1,5 Gb aggregated. When tests are run from both clients at the same time each falls back to some 60% of this and at the AP the traffic increases so...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:00 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42 [current]
Replies: 147
Views: 28182

Re: v6.42 [current]

What is the wireless XX option under Channel width?
Indeed, that what I would like to know too.....
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:59 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42 [current]
Replies: 147
Views: 28182

Re: v6.42 [current]

I can't see any improvement on Nv2 PTMP, someone have some tests and can share AP and client configuration? did you upgrade AP and stations, or only AP ? I've upgraded AP and two of three stations connected, only RouterOS It's been said somewhere in another tread, but the improvements are only noti...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:44 pm
Forum: General
Topic: PPPoE-Client issue on arm device
Replies: 0
Views: 295

PPPoE-Client issue on arm device

We have one LHG-5ac that is in bridge mode but its Usermanager assigned authentication is coming and going.... /interface bridge add admin-mac=E4:8D:8C:53:5A:9B auto-mac=no fast-forward=no name=bridge1 /interface bridge port add bridge=bridge1 interface=wlan1 add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether1-loca...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42 [current]
Replies: 147
Views: 28182

Re: v6.42 [current]

*) userman - added support for ARM and MMIPS platform; Previous versions don't support for these? What actually was not supported? We have one LHG-5ac that is in bridge mode but its UM assigned authentication is coming and going.... /interface bridge add admin-mac=E4:8D:8C:53:5A:9B auto-mac=no fast-...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:45 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Wireless Wire free Multi-point upgrade for AP feature
Replies: 21
Views: 10202

Re: Wireless Wire free Multi-point upgrade for AP feature

I've been SUPER-AMPED about this, as we have come so close many times to pulling the trigger on IngiteNet 60Ghz PtMP. However, I just don't think these little MikroTik 60Ghz units are going to cut it! They're SO small, and the distance is no longer than what you can run with Cat5e. Finally some goo...
by WirelessRudy
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:32 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Wireless Wire free Multi-point upgrade for AP feature
Replies: 21
Views: 10202

Re: Wireless Wire free Multi-point upgrade for AP feature

50 households within range of 100 meters is a field for wires, not for radios. So, who is going to deploy those wires? Need permission, need the wires, need switches and modems. Usually need trenches to dig and repair cloaked tubes. A wire (fiber) needs a full backbone infrastructure into each stre...
by WirelessRudy
Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:19 am
Forum: General
Topic: Mikrotik and Environment.
Replies: 12
Views: 964

Re: Mikrotik and Environment.

Wirelessrudy, the pm function is inactive here. Can you provide other way to contact you?
info@marucom.es
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Mikrotik and Environment.
Replies: 12
Views: 964

Re: Mikrotik and Environment.

Agree with the plastic removal. Screws can be punched directly into internal carton lid, for example. But the power adapters are a must. The device has to work out of the box and none can expect that it is replacing other already existing device with the same powering requirements that will be thro...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:39 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Mikrotik and Environment.
Replies: 12
Views: 964

Re: Mikrotik and Environment.

In omitting the power adapters the packages can become smaller and lighter. Less transport fees and again good for the environment (less weight to transport, less volume needed) and the price from the package can be reduced a little bit too! This could benefit either the Mikrotik company and/or the...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Mikrotik and Environment.
Replies: 12
Views: 964

Re: Mikrotik and Environment.

You realise though this massive push against plastic will mean that cardboard and/or paper will be used instead. Once that happens all the tree huggers currently spitting feathers over plastic will start complaining about the amount of trees being cut down because of the use of cardboard and paper ...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Mikrotik and Environment.
Replies: 12
Views: 964

Mikrotik and Environment.

Not a technical topic this time. More about the product line and where Mikrotik stands in relation to our mother nature. Because yes, also we users and producers of Mikrotik should look on how we can do better for our environment! Two items in particular are prone for a huge improvement towards our ...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:01 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

.................... But we had to tune down the radio to very low output to make a -40 signal. Basically we talk 4 or 6 dBm. We actually found that the links became unstable. On other occasions where we had the same issue we found that most Mikrotik devices don't like it when we set outpot lower t...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

In addition to my last remarks: To stay away of interference from other sources we tend to use high gain directional antenas on most of our links. But the result is also we increase the signals a lot. We have been playing before 2 Jirious 30dBi disks on a 350 meter link just to get a link going in a...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Full modulation, max speed, highest modulation. Not trying to offend, but English isn't your first language, is it? Just trying to figure out how that isn't clearly understood. I haven't pushed the AC limits in testing like I have the other hardware, I have tested 802.11n and below quite thoroughly...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:29 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Generally you can't get full modulation with signals stronger than a -38 in my experience. If it is requiring -20s to work in your area you might want to find another frequency or line of work. That is utterly horrible. The actual chipset is designed for like -40 to -97dB. You're usually running in...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:13 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

50-65 dB is low. The world does not know what the conditions are in the Czech Republic. -65dB is almost the level of ambient noise. I'm not going to solve the RX levels unless you do it yourself. We also have PTP connections with -20dB. You can test + 5dB on your desk and it works fine. The wifi ch...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:38 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Your theory? nonsense. We also have an AP with better signals and even if there is a weaker client and is alone on the AP. Do not worry about things. This is not the only place where the same thing happens. NV2 has always been worse with many clients. Otherwise it behaves with v6.40 in the same pla...
by WirelessRudy
Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:22 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

It's ok I read the manual again and realised that with dynamic the ratio comes into use when the ap is saturated. This brings me to ask how does ap determine when to use the ratio.. are there any settings that can effect the threshold Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk A very good question a...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42rc [release candidate] is released!
Replies: 538
Views: 97453

Re: v6.42rc [release candidate] is released!

Confirmation from MT in Mail RC55 will have fix for my LACP Bonding problem. Have a Nice week end and I hope for the soon Release of RC55. One wonder what more magical fixes will be included.
;-)
Let's hope is doesn't introduce new bugs after all that German beer..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

We have made a large deployment (70 ap) of new beta firmware on our network and I can confirm +25% in download speeds with GOOD upload speeds with maximum speed of 50Mb/s in peak time. Comparing new fw with ubiquiti AP gen 2 in the same enviroment mikoritk is slower. With ubiquiti we reach around 7...
by WirelessRudy
Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:30 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42rc [release candidate] is released!
Replies: 538
Views: 97453

Re: v6.42rc [release candidate] is released!

... Is there any bug? DFS searching time is 10minutes ?? p.s.: found answer... : IEEE 802.18-08/0016r0 Radar Detect and DFS on MikroTik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbrbRUAfpac Is it possible to display the time in the status window? I also have Mimosa and there the DFS even takes the network do...
by WirelessRudy
Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Additionally we had to switch nv2 configuration from fixed-downlink-mode to dynamic-downlink-mode and also set QoS to default instead of frame-priority . Our VoIP prioritization rules are now useless... but VoIP quality, throughput and latency are good. Now seeing a total througput on the sectors o...
by WirelessRudy
Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:56 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Plain 802.11-an better then NV2!
Replies: 7
Views: 1950

Re: Plain 802.11-an better then NV2!

Strange nobody has comments on this? This is a BIG surprise! Even Mikrotik staff should raise an eyebrow to learn their tdma is not as good as plain 802.11 an with RTS/CTS. If we then read about the improvements in the 802.11 ac standard in regard of frequency re-use and interferencia avoidance tech...
by WirelessRudy
Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

With adaptive-noise-immunity turned on throughput and latency are a mess. Download to the clients (still 20 subscribers per sector) only 2-3 Mbps, upload from the clients below 500 Kbps. So we switched it off. That doesn't make a lot of sense. I found some text prescribing in short (I found much mo...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

@WirelessRudy
You have news?
I made several posts in several wireless related treads this week. Search for them and you'll find a lot of info.
by WirelessRudy
Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:28 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting
Replies: 67
Views: 15633

Re: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting

Speaking of connection rates and CCQ ...etc....... North Idaho Tom Jones Good explanatory post! What we do now is squeezing CPE's as much as we can in a receive signal range no wider then 10dB apart and not higher then -60 / -65. So if needed some clients get 24dbi CPE antena where others can do wi...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:14 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting
Replies: 67
Views: 15633

Re: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting

As regards interference, we must not forget in a unlicensed band that interference can be from any type of RF device transmitting in that band and not just 802.XX....WiFi only ? I am somewhat bemused when I read users looking for WiFi spectrum analyzers, sure they will help for WiFi signals but if ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:18 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Plain 802.11-an better then NV2!
Replies: 7
Views: 1950

Plain 802.11-an better then NV2!

1 AP rb911G-5HpnD on a 12dBi omnidirectional antenna. 27 clients. Mixture of Mainly SXT-L, one SXT-Lac and one SXT-sq5ac and rb911 and some 711's and even still 3 411's. AP in bridge mode, CPE's routing with PPPoE on wlan1 Management network by dhcp server on RouterBOARD 750G r3 behind AP with vlan2...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting
Replies: 67
Views: 15633

Re: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting

- In general , I've found the average sweet-spot for signal strength to be in the range of -45 to -60 (-50 normally works best on average) - On an AP with many clients , it often takes only a single weak/bad client ACTIVE connection to degrade all clients on an AP. Example: ... 5 to 20 clients conn...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:06 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

I would argue that one must always test radio links with single tcp stream. Testing whether your tcp connection can build up and withstand its speed is the one true benchmark when it comes to testing your layer 1 (radio link in our case). Say for example you get 70meg with 1 connection tcp traffic ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:56 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting
Replies: 67
Views: 15633

Re: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting

We are rural, don’t have fiber yet. :( Actually our WISP has, but at a price that bleeds you dry. :D We used to run nv2 without password and then started running into problems when the competitors also started using nv2, we started using password. Did not find any significant change in speed. Also ...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:00 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting
Replies: 67
Views: 15633

Re: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting

Don't forget to play with NV2 Radius. If all clients are less than 10 and you have a NV2 Radius of 30 , it will run a bit slower. I try to set a NV2 Radius setting of furthest client + 10 percent. Thus if my furthest client is 20 , I would use 22. If my furthest client is less than 10, then I will ...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:52 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Massive improvement. However odd thing. Customer has 20megs. www.openspeedtest.com confirms. As does real world test like streaming multiple streams simultaneously. Ookla only shows 6 to 8 megs ??? Any ideas. Ookla is Def wrong Maybe mikrotik staff "borrowed" some technics from plain 802.11n. afair...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:56 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Why can I not put a picture (screendump) in this forum anymore? Drag and drop won't work. Click on 'insert image' give me the code for the image insert but cannot put the image from my PC in there....? It was to show that after my upgrade to the new rc the average overall throughput on one AP went u...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:51 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

What is the recommendation in noisy environments? Running nv2 with adaptive-noise-immunity switched on on client and AP? Does ist affect nv2 operation at all?


Robert
I always use it. To be honest be surprised by the question. Why NOT use them?
by WirelessRudy
Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:37 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

........ After the upgrade I could push the AP through the 100Mb limit when I did not use the poor clients. But in trying the poor clients I could stil increase their capacity from around 2-4mbps to over 10Mbps. ....... Just to be clear did connected poor clients impact on the AP overall performanc...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:15 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting
Replies: 67
Views: 15633

Re: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting

Yeah, but one of these "other vendors" show us perfectly that the most important part here is AP side. They reuse existing old SXTs or NS5's and make users happy for a time being with speeds up to 30-50M per client and with sectors toping at 120-150M without visiting their households. They simply b...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:10 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Tonight tried the new 6.42rc49 on a Netmetal that had 6.40.5 running. The radio is running 'n' mode with 28 'n' clients connected. Before the upgrade max TTL througput over the AP I could hardly get 40Mbps and some poor connected clients could hardly get 1Mbps of traffic. After the upgrade I could p...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting
Replies: 67
Views: 15633

Re: Nv2-downlink-ratio - new huge bandwidth increase setting

FYI - There are several methods to govern individual customer up/down bandwidth. Here is how I do my wireless network: - APs , many many many and many different locations all APs have the same SSID and same nv2 settings using (N-only 20/40 Ce). No two APs share the same frequency. All APs and custo...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:01 pm
Forum: General
Topic: fast ethernet versus gigibit ethernet in many node network
Replies: 0
Views: 245

fast ethernet versus gigibit ethernet in many node network

Any input in the discussion in regard the use of fast Ethernet / mixed Ethernet versus Gigabit only networks. Any considerations or comments on multiple hop networks, even if the traffic is not needing more then 100Mbps? My philosophy is to upgrade to Gigabit wherever we can, but at times it does gi...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:46 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Sorry, bad english. I thought 1 connection in Btest. I'm always testing 1 connection. Zero traffic: I think other AP clients carry a small amount of data. Previously, I was not able to make 100 Mbits for 1 connection in the NV2 protocol with so many clients. https://t18.pixhost.org/thumbs/98/671132...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

Ok, been reading this tread with interest. We've been migrating some AP's already to both eCambium and Mimosa en Albetia (Spanish) and although each in their field give better results then Mikrotik, they also come with side effects. Main factor is the higher price. Main complication is the need to s...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP
Replies: 245
Views: 53462

Re: Significant improvement for wireless Nv2 PtMP

@uldis Uploaded last rc46 i rc49 and watching great improvement. Linking to 1 thread is far better. Previously, I had to use AP 802.11 for that. Now Omnitik AC, 19 clients, 20/40 Ce, 2ms, dynamic 75 (no client has AC) .. 1 thread will make 110 Mbits, which was previously impossible. Of course, ther...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:17 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

@WirelessRudy Please check mikrotik Sync again with NV2 improvements version 6.42.rc49!!! I'm waiting for your report Thanks! Well, I am not really enthusiastic in putting a rc version on a production network..... The more since I see that NV2 in PtP setup is having serious problems lately with arm...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:02 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Feature requests
Replies: 1160
Views: 208408

Re: Feature requests

- there should be some way to "save as default" - there should be some way to interconnect the settings of a Group, so when you add some column to one window in one router out of that group, it is then also shown in all other routers from that group that you already had added (maybe some way to all...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:08 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.42rc [release candidate] is released!
Replies: 538
Views: 97453

Re: v6.42rc [release candidate] is released!

When you close your entire router they can use their 3G/4G connection.
That is what I see too, so then you have lost the battle :)
Better to give good education.
Exactly!
by WirelessRudy
Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:24 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: RBwAPG-60ad Real World Use and Feedback [SOLVED]
Replies: 11
Views: 2511

Re: RBwAPG-60ad Real World Use and Feedback [SOLVED]

Is there already any news about bigger 60ad (60Ghz) units? If we could be bridging distances around 500 meters up to 1km that would be great. Based on the experience we have with the recent RBwAPG-60ad links we are dying to see more units hit the streets.... And what about an indoor 60Gbps AP (tripl...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:23 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: AC equipment and spectral scan problem
Replies: 169
Views: 26782

Re: AC equipment and spectral scan problem

Bad thing is you see a lot of the pros/cons only running them in the field. Esp how they scale with >10 CPEs connected with different conditions. E.g. we tried the epmp1k line (11n based) and had good results with low numbers but ran into problems with more cpes connected. Lot of reconnects even wi...
by WirelessRudy
Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: AC equipment and spectral scan problem
Replies: 169
Views: 26782

Re: AC equipment and spectral scan problem

Gratulation you buyed a Wave 2 device without Wave 2 Feature Support For us waiting has ended.... We did internal tests with UBNT, Ligowave and next week we will get mimosa, all have Spectral Scan, and in more and more crowded band this is the only option to operate + Protocol that uses GPS sync. L...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:24 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience
Replies: 36
Views: 12341

Re: 60GHz multipoint, share your experience

We've deployed nearly 40 point-to-point pairs and things have been flawless. Reliability and performance is better than all other multipoint WiGig-based products we've tried, and at a fraction of the price. We've also deployed a multipoint AP with 4 stations. Reliability is still solid, but latency...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:08 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: RBwAPG-60ad Real World Use and Feedback [SOLVED]
Replies: 11
Views: 2511

Re: RBwAPG-60ad Real World Use and Feedback [SOLVED]

I did a test today of a 60Ghz 'out of the box' deployment over 130 meters. Aligning was simple, eye sight and that's it. From a laptop over the link via a Metrolinq 60Ghz link and 3 routers and a switch we ran 900+mbps download at peaks, around 800 mbps average and at the same time 250mbps upload to...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:47 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Wireless Wire free Multi-point upgrade for AP feature
Replies: 21
Views: 10202

Re: Wireless Wire free Multi-point upgrade for AP feature

Range is useless except for just "fun" and testing around indoors or across the street. When is the WISP gear coming out? I remember seeing LAH 60Ghz models advertised almost a year ago at the Denver MUM, is there any ETA on when those will be available, or did they scrap it? Also would be nice to ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:00 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

So another one: Had to change a wireless setting on an OmnitikAC running 6.40.4 with nv2. Interface goes into radar detect and finds radar on every single frequency in 5GHz. (Guess what. There is no radar). Upgrade to 6.40.6 does not help. Downgrade to the latest SW without radar detect = not allow...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:44 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

So another one: Had to change a wireless setting on an OmnitikAC running 6.40.4 with nv2. Interface goes into radar detect and finds radar on every single frequency in 5GHz. (Guess what. There is no radar). Upgrade to 6.40.6 does not help. Downgrade to the latest SW without radar detect = not allow...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: LHG XL 60Ghz home made
Replies: 13
Views: 3280

Re: LHG XL 60Ghz home made

I´ve heard that it did not pass EIRP test in LHG so thats the reason why it isnt sold and it also wont be soon. It will be nice if someone from staff can confirm that. The wavelength of 60Ghz compared to 5Ghz is so much smaller it just slips through the holes in the plastic LHG. So as a dish an LHG...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:00 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Ok, So I have had an actual email discussion with an actual Mikrotik agent. Here is his answer: Hello, You can look up in Internet how all the frequency re-use plan works. The CPE should see only the one of the Synced AP - it can't see the other AP otherwise the connection will not work correctly a...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:17 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Ok, So I have had an actual email discussion with an actual Mikrotik agent. Here is his answer: Hello, You can look up in Internet how all the frequency re-use plan works. The CPE should see only the one of the Synced AP - it can't see the other AP otherwise the connection will not work correctly a...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:09 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

What LTU gear ?
This is a MT forum. So I do not want to educate ;-). It is not LTE.
Well, several other platforms passed the discussions here including their technology and performances....
by WirelessRudy
Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:40 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Noone does LTE, Licensed wireless, 60GHz, unlicensed wireless, routing, switching, CRM, ... And dont trust markteting and fanboys. We see Mimosa and Cambium ePMP fall to it's nose with interference where nv2 still work. They dont have a magic bullet. And we soon have 2018 and ePMP is still 11n. We ...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:32 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

I think we have to wait until some bigger company that lacks routing knowledge and a neat OS. Wouldn't be surprised Cisco one day buys them. Just to get them away fishing from the router pond... Ubiquity could buy them too. They probably have the cash by now and the only fields where they are not as...
by WirelessRudy
Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:35 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

And that's why many of 'legacy' Mikrotik users for wireless are now exploring new manufacture's product lines. We already swapped 15% of our network and nextyear it will be 40 or 50%.
by WirelessRudy
Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:44 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

i noticed in lab test config with NV2 that you have to set the dynamic download to 80 to achieve good download rates to clients, set to 50 was no good. did you played with that too ? and what where your experiences. I never played with 80 since I'd presume that's too much. I played with 70, 60 and ...
by WirelessRudy
Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:13 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

I work with Mimosa where I for instance have 2 AP's only 250 meters separated from each other and both see each other (but obviously their respective CPE's don't see 'the other' due the different direction they'd pointed at) and all CPE's are only up to 500 meters away from their AP's and it works s...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:14 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Thanks Rudy, our customers from most high sites are between 5-15+Kms AP to CPE, we use 23dB CPE'e for all customers! Our challenge appears to be somewhat similar to what you have but to add we have also to switch from single polarity which gives us a additional headache; (1) Do we purchase Mimosa o...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:22 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.40.5 [current]
Replies: 82
Views: 25279

Re: v6.40.5 [current]

Wireless fix is made for configurations where nv2 and configured rates are used. If you experienced system lock-up or reboots, then this fix will most likely will solve the problem. Well, 80% of my network runs 6.40.4 and 95% of that has fixed configured rates across a whole range of different devi...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:39 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Can I ask which is the best Mimosa or Cambium? Not a lot people will be able to answer that properly. You need to run both systems in a sort of similar setup and environment to make real comparisons. We have 3 AP's now from Mimosa each with 40+ clients all short distance (500Mtr max) in a high used...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:53 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.40.5 [current]
Replies: 82
Views: 25279

Re: v6.40.5 [current]

*) wireless - fixed rate selection process when "rate-set=configured" and NV2 protocol is used;

When (version) did this go wrong and what was exactly the issue?
by WirelessRudy
Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:19 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Maybe Elevate will save us the rest of our MT investment, which for myself is a _LOT_ of money, but in the mean time I have stopped deploying MT on ALL new builds and we have replaced a couple hundred RB411 CPEs and a few dozen RB433AH AP's with Mimosa or Cambium and continue to do so. Zod I am awa...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:40 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Well, I have to agree with you guys that the basic csma protocol but added with RTS/CTS and fine tuned (set proper distance/acknowledge time) set RTS/CTS to always work and some other minor settings) can/will be better then NV2 or other tdma protocols on the market. We are already moving a P2MP netw...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:42 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Rudy 2x SA distance between 1m protocol 802.11 same channel running better than nv2 sync. Ok, let me try to understand what you wrote.. 2x SA = 2 x SXT-SA ok So you are saying that instead of 2 SXT-AC's 1 meter apart from eachother work better with 802.11 in the same channel then when they are in N...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:30 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

I tried again. Two AP's on shielded sectors, both facing in almost oposite direction. Both at least 3 meters apart with a tower inbetween. Both all clients at distant and these clients cannot 'see' clients from the other AP since the tower is on a hill and on both sides de clients are low. Done a sc...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:35 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Is there much involved in setting up a speedtest server? No. You need the hardware (A good server will do.) and a pipe (at least 100Mb simmetric I believe.). All info can be found on their website. We run it on the same server (virtual machine) that also runs virtuals for UserManager and log server...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:22 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

With nv2 and APs with more than 6-10 connected cpes customers *never* see 20MBit/s tcp even when all other cpes are quiet. This is not a simple bandwidth problem it is how nv2 works, Speedtest.net does 4 tcp-streams so you see a bit more than with a single tcp download/ftp. This got some way better...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:25 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

With 12 meg you are fine with MT. Problems start with 20. Customers get this speeds with udp but they complain with tcp. As speedtests are tcp ... I am so bored with this speedtester calls. This problem is for years now and consumed a lot of my time. This and some towers run out of frequency urged ...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:23 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

One of the reasons I'd go for Mimosa now is not only the specs in the brochures. There are some of guys in the US that really offer 200 to 300Mbps contract to clients based on a Mimosa P2MP network and these guys are very enthusiast about it. Mimosa is in fact build to fight with cable operators in ...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:08 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

..., but what I really don't like is when you read on sales brochure "...supporting Multi-User MIMO...." but in tech specs "Multi-User MIMO **" = enabled in future software releases....same for Collocation.....this in my opinion is nothing short of false advertising. I think they all do this... you...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:04 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

The chipset from MT is also different then what Mimosa uses. I have to look up what they actualy were but I have been reading before (independent resources and test panels) that the chipset of Mimosa is outdoing the Atheros in use but Mikrotik, Ubiquity etc. a lot. Mimosa chipset is just much bette...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:14 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

The difference between MT's Netmetal and the Mimosa is many: The CPU of a netmetal is 720Mhz where the cpu's (yes, they have two.) running on Gigahertz speeds and from a different architecture too. The OS is different too. The chipset from MT is also different then what Mimosa uses. I have to look u...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:54 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

While speed is very important I think a more deciding factor longterm for retaining residential customers (which makes up 90+% of our customers) will be cost effective media content delivery, that is who can give streamed sports and movie channels, etc plus broadband in a inclusive price? Already w...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:03 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

It that performance Mimosa AP to Mimosa CPE or Mimosa AP to Mikrotik and is that AC or N ? First what we did is setup one Mimosa A5 and just transferred a mix of SXT-Lite 'n' and some 711 board radios to it. In the end we'd had 60 clients to that tower and one by one they all worked fine. I've done...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:10 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

.................................................... I was about to cancel my 200 Mimosa client order but I am happy now I didn't. I hope Mikrotik finds a solution before we are forced to upgrade more of our P2MP networks. Or does is show again that cheap can't do the same as expensive? Is hoping t...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:24 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync works but destroys performance
Replies: 8
Views: 1838

Re: NV2 sync works but destroys performance

We have had very good result with this https://www.interprojekt.it/anti-noise-anti-interference-shield-routerboards-sxtg-5hpnd-p-1752.html https://www.interprojekt.it/anti-noise-anti-interference-shield-routerboards-p-1753.html I have a couple of these. Not connected to the specific AP's for the te...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:12 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync works but destroys performance
Replies: 8
Views: 1838

Re: NV2 sync works but destroys performance

I forgot to mention my extended post for the same matter; https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=124499 Here it is explained what the setup and performance test was. All the CPEs from one AP simply MUST have very good isolation from other AP(s) and vice versa. Well, imho the whole Idea of ru...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:55 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync works but destroys performance
Replies: 8
Views: 1838

NV2 sync works but destroys performance

Maybe on a short post I'll get some replies... :( 2 SXT-SA's side by side (1 mtr. vert. distance) covering both their sector. Both work fine. One with 8 clients, the other with 24. (All SXT) When the NV2 sync is setup according Wiki the sync works, but CCQ collapse and download to clients falls from...
by WirelessRudy
Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:52 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

Re: NV2 sync issues and solutions

Other question I have in regard of the sync. but more the download ratio settings: 1. Does it indeed work on the AP only? No need to have the CPE's upgraded? It looks like not but I'd always like the confirmation from some higher ranked MT technician! 2. Is there a minimal signal strenght or s/n rat...
by WirelessRudy
Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:26 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 sync issues and solutions
Replies: 91
Views: 8416

NV2 sync issues and solutions

Just recently found out the new NV2 developments in sync and up/download ratio distribution. So decided to do some tests in the field since this is what we have been waiting for! Well, don't work well. Setup: One tower, two SXT SA5 (SXT G-5HPnD r2) as AP some meter separated on same mast. Both looki...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:05 pm
Forum: Beginner Basics
Topic: Avoiding Double NAT with multiple routers
Replies: 25
Views: 9805

Re: Avoiding Double NAT with multiple routers

You need to setup the dst-nat rule (or also called "port-forwarding") in each router that functions as NAT-router and is not bridging networks. If your network has a gateway router functioning to masquerade all your users behind one IP (the public IP of your gateway) then it needs a dst-nat rule in ...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:56 pm
Forum: Beginner Basics
Topic: Avoiding Double NAT with multiple routers
Replies: 25
Views: 9805

Re: Avoiding Double NAT with multiple routers

Use dst-nat in IP / firewall / nat

Setup a rule for traffic (udp/tcp/icmp) that has the destination (IP) of the router and mention de port number (dst-port) and then under 'action' setup where you want that traffic to leave to (dst-to). Hence the IP of the host behind that firewall. that's it.
by WirelessRudy
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:28 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Newsletter 76
Replies: 50
Views: 14943

Re: Newsletter 76

Is there already any news on the availability of the 60Ghz devices? I have seen it working fine in the MUM Milan in March/April. We have usage for such devices. I believe they can give high capacity backhaul up to 150mtrs. We already use other 60Ghz solution much to our satisfaction. We have links o...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:42 pm
Forum: Beginner Basics
Topic: How to clear log
Replies: 37
Views: 79794

Re: How to clear log

I'm with pe1chi and the log clearing camp on this one. Basic on-box log management functionality should be brought up to par with equivalent products. Typical IT guy's reply. Mikrotik is sold for a great deal to small time self educated operators, like me. I build my 700+ client network over 15 yea...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:31 pm
Forum: Beginner Basics
Topic: How to clear log
Replies: 37
Views: 79794

Re: How to clear log

With so many routers it is even more apparent that you need to install a syslog server! You do not need a separate server for every router, they can all log to the same server. And all these logs to be send to a remote server that needs a big data capacity. Logs sometimes are running in many lines ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:07 pm
Forum: Beginner Basics
Topic: How to clear log
Replies: 37
Views: 79794

Re: How to clear log

Don't agree. I am a small operator and still have almost 800 Mikrotik routers. To setup and use syslog to a remote server for all these is ridiculous. Imagine a 10K of bigger operator... The log is a great troubleshooting tool, even for CPE's.... And indeed, usually the logs are also needed just to ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:05 pm
Forum: Beginner Basics
Topic: How to clear log
Replies: 37
Views: 79794

Re: How to clear log

A nice feature request for ages that would help debugging a lot: The option to highlight words or rules in the log. Helps keeping visual track of what where happened when. The option to then copy the highlighted parts from the log to paste in a txt doc or else. And last but not least, the option to ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:14 am
Forum: The User Manager
Topic: User Manager general problems
Replies: 3
Views: 992

User Manager general problems

We have User Manager running in a virtual server environment on a real hardware server. We occur regular problems: - Multiple session on different workstation do collide with eachother. - User Manager is sometime slow in opening - User Manager is sometimes not accepting changes in users (clients) Se...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:32 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Any edit in wireless breaks connections
Replies: 0
Views: 212

Any edit in wireless breaks connections

In Winbox In the old days we could change most parameters in either the access or the connect-to list without affecting the real associated stations. Since many versions back it started that when some settings was change in access list on apply (or OK) all associated stations disconnected from AP. T...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:35 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: rts/cts hw-protection threshold needs revision
Replies: 0
Views: 1056

rts/cts hw-protection threshold needs revision

The station working in rts/cts (Request to send/Clear to send) basic 802.11abcg mode has some extra feature embedded to battle the 'hidden node' effect. Years ago I already pointed MT about an small error in their preconfig state but more recently found the config is even changed and the manual is n...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:20 pm
Forum: General
Topic: What happens with the LHG-5?
Replies: 2
Views: 516

What happens with the LHG-5?

These units are not available anymore? Most of the main stream providers in Europe don't have these in stock now for more weeks or months....... Can Mikrotik inform about the reason for this? Has this to do with the bankrupcy of Hyunday shipping line? Some containers with the devices not beeing able...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:46 pm
Forum: Scripting
Topic: script challenge....
Replies: 5
Views: 1185

Re: script challenge....

Does your radios have the ability to run the spectrum scan? I know you are looking for a dump of the wireless scan, but a spectrum scan will give you a more complete picture. I assume the challenge is reading the spectrum files generated by i.e.: /interface wireless spectral-scan 0 duration=20 rang...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:43 pm
Forum: The Dude
Topic: 6.37.2 Warning Dude doesn't work! Wait for 37.3?
Replies: 10
Views: 1736

Re: 6.37.2 Warning Dude doesn't work! Wait for 37.3?

The changelog is updated, thanks.
No, its not.
changelog 6.37.2.PNG
by WirelessRudy
Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:40 pm
Forum: The Dude
Topic: 6.37.2 Warning Dude doesn't work! Wait for 37.3?
Replies: 10
Views: 1736

Re: 6.37.2 Warning Dude doesn't work! Wait for 37.3?

Who is such a selfkiller to be willing to make an update over all network devices without prior reading of change log, observing forum and appropriate testing? Especially when he doesn't know why he needs to update? Maybe it is some kind of fool but definitely not an administrator. I don't know if ...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:36 am
Forum: The Dude
Topic: 6.37.2 Warning Dude doesn't work! Wait for 37.3?
Replies: 10
Views: 1736

Re: 6.37.2 Warning Dude doesn't work! Wait for 37.3?

As I understand it, Dude doesn't work only(*) in 6.37.2. If 6.37.1 works fine for you, then keep it, stay calm and wait for 6.37.3, which should come out soon. The changelog for 37.2 actually only says that the dude doesn't work. Nothing else. Nothing else to update for.... but it is enlisted now a...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:13 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: MikroTik News November 2016 (Issue #73)
Replies: 27
Views: 10932

Re: MikroTik News November 2016 (Issue #73)

But im still wait for new LGH5 with 802.11ac, gigabit ethernet and industrial grade aluminium. That will make it more expensive, but the whole point of this LHG5 device is that it's cheap . For those willing to pay more there's a DynaDish 5 available already. The LGH5 is preliminary a client unit w...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:44 pm
Forum: The Dude
Topic: 6.37.2 Warning Dude doesn't work! Wait for 37.3?
Replies: 10
Views: 1736

6.37.2 Warning Dude doesn't work! Wait for 37.3?

What the heck is this? We have been updating our complete network over the last weeks to 6.37.1 and since it's 'current' now for an amazingly long time for MT standards we last week finally decided to update our Dude Program to 6.37.1. After soo many weeks "current" it must be safe to do so...... we...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:33 pm
Forum: General
Topic: timeout while waiting for program 20
Replies: 10
Views: 4112

Re: timeout while waiting for program 20

We also experience these problems.

Are you using OSPF?

Do you have a full BGP feed?
Yes, we do use OSPF. BGP feed I am not fully aware of what that means..
by WirelessRudy
Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:34 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Mimosa and first PtM with MU-MIMO
Replies: 19
Views: 4334

Re: Mimosa and first PtM with MU-MIMO

@ste That's my feeling towards Mikrotik; They don't spend too much time/resources on wifi since they aim at a low-medium segment WISP market. Like in Asia, Africa and the South America's. On the more heavier used and higher profiled Europe and North America together with the Far East (China, Taiwan,...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:20 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Mimosa and first PtM with MU-MIMO
Replies: 19
Views: 4334

Re: Mimosa and first PtM with MU-MIMO

@WirelessRudy I don't believe Mimosa will do it on the long run. They don't fulfill their promises for long now. Where is their sector, where is TDMA, where is mumimo, where is gps sync in ptmp ? They never will make this product's work as promised. Instead of using their A5 I installed 3 Mantbox 1...
by WirelessRudy
Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:26 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Mimosa and first PtM with MU-MIMO
Replies: 19
Views: 4334

Re: Mimosa and first PtM with MU-MIMO

We installed our first Mimosa A5 last week and hooked now some 35 SXT's on it. Last night I finally could do some test with several clients each capable of 25mbs (limit by simple queue in central) Allthough compared to the Omnitik previously running 25 clients that could not produce more than some 3...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:48 am
Forum: General
Topic: timeout while waiting for program 20
Replies: 10
Views: 4112

Re: timeout while waiting for program 20

Similar happened to us last night. Lost all access to our Dude running on CHR and also all access to our main gateway CCR. From different network segments we were not able to login to the CCR. We'd happen to have one old vlan not in use between a MT switch and this CCR that gave us mac-winbox access...
by WirelessRudy
Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:07 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Possible bug in CCR1016-12G v6.37.1
Replies: 0
Views: 510

Possible bug in CCR1016-12G v6.37.1

We are running this CCR with some 650 PPPoE tunnels and up to 320Mbps aggregated traffic as our main gateway to the internet. The machine runs fine for months and 3 weeks ago updated to 6.37.1 Tonight, while just looking at my Dude (that runs on a virtual CHR device only connecte by ether to this CC...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:12 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: N-Devices (QRT5) perform better than AC-Devices (QRT5ac) in noisy environments
Replies: 4
Views: 1043

Re: N-Devices (QRT5) perform better than AC-Devices (QRT5ac) in noisy environments

The physic is the problem and there is no way around. For higher modulation rates you must have higher SNR (more cleaner channel). So in noisy environment it is actually better to use lower (manually set) rates/modulations which are almost the same in both 802.11ac and 802.11n radios. And because t...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:20 am
Forum: General
Topic: fcs error?????
Replies: 13
Views: 46142

Re: fcs error?????

well, might be but the MT software is either too sensitive or has bug. We use latest stable softwares and firmwares and have at several places fcs errors coming up at times. Sometimes for months nothing and than suddenly one, some or many ports on a router show fcs errors. Sometimes only 2,3 a day, ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:20 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Solving 20km wireless link issues
Replies: 147
Views: 102256

Re: Solving 20km wireless link issues

Isn't it all about the money in the end?  If we see here in Europe people are getting used to € 30,-/month for 10, 20 or up to 100megs nowadays, the earning model becomes more and more difficult. I'll bet these Vivato CPE's weren't cheap neither...if they already had beamforming. I've been testing s...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:13 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Solving 20km wireless link issues
Replies: 147
Views: 102256

Re: Solving 20km wireless link issues

have you ever saw some new SOHO Wi-Fi routers ? 6x antennas !! 8x antennas !! and announced development of router with 10x and 12x !!!(but 4x and 6x of them advertised as "internal", Godness :) thats crazy ! (and crazy-looking IMHO :) and eventually become mainstream so routers/AP become AFAR-alike...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:40 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput
Replies: 47
Views: 10969

Re: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput

I have over 1,500 subs and  was going to update each sub to a dual chain board probably a QRT as it is the cheapest dual chain solution that is not Ubiquity (sorry hate Ubiquity) but if I can only get 10 clients per AP I will have to spend my $225,000 on a different solution. I really love Mikrotik...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:36 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput
Replies: 47
Views: 10969

Re: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput

+2 I am about to order a new system (not ubnt, hate it!) because indeed we cannot even get close to speeds that other systems are claiming possible. I can't even get the numbers #resotat# is talking about. And that's with duo stream antennas! I'd love MT for a long time, and complained about their p...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:32 pm
Forum: Scripting
Topic: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data
Replies: 34
Views: 16044

Re: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data

It is clearly written in the manual too:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:In ... eless#Scan
Oeps, your right. Seldom read the manual anymore. Habit from the past I guess when the manual was about century behind developments.... Sorry. 8)
by WirelessRudy
Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:50 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: v6.35.4 [current] is released!
Replies: 51
Views: 22149

Re: v6.35.4 [current] is released!

We run v6.35.1 in a virtual environment (CH) and it only has usermanager running (this virtual CH).
Would there already be any differences between v6.35.4 and v6.35.1? 
In the changelog I don't see any changes that have anything to do with usermanager?
by WirelessRudy
Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:00 am
Forum: Scripting
Topic: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data
Replies: 34
Views: 16044

Re: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data

Congratulations to your re-invented ability to read. It is very useful... :-) Never mind, I have sometimes the same problem - overlooking obvious things. Enjoy the background scan! If I would follow all posts in this forum not to miss anything I would'n make no more sense since I wouldn't have any ...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:03 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput
Replies: 47
Views: 10969

Re: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput

Well i had been facing exactly same issues with Mikrotik NV2,performance degrades after 25-30 clients,latency keeps between 15-20 ms. I have made following changes to my network and now everything has returned to normal. You can try these changes and check if it helps you. 1) all client's are kept ...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:46 pm
Forum: Scripting
Topic: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data
Replies: 34
Views: 16044

Re: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data

Can you try again with 6.35.4? I did the test with this version using wireless-rep package while you are using 6.35.2, as shown on your picture... This topic is from year 2010, so it was not about ac at all for sure. You have just brought it here. Nothing against you, you are right, the ac should h...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:55 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput
Replies: 47
Views: 10969

Re: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput

wireless is not good option in point to multi point wireless is good only for point to point i think this way may b i m wrong Your post doesn't make sense a lot... I don't understand. But your last remarks are hilarious. Indeed, we should all stop in what we are doing and deploy cables to our clien...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:50 am
Forum: Scripting
Topic: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data
Replies: 34
Views: 16044

Re: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data

1) Not true. Just tested on such station (actually station-bridge mode): station scanned while there was uninterrupted traffic flowing both ways and the winbox was connected over the scanning wlan. 2) Not true. Really funny idea to have a client without working scan. How could it connect to ap with...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:13 pm
Forum: Scripting
Topic: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data
Replies: 34
Views: 16044

Re: Help with retrieving /interface/wireless > scan data

Have you noticed the background scan function? What use is the background scan function? 1. It is not possible on a 'station-mode' unit. 2. ac units don't support scan function. 3. The scan function itself doesn't 'see' all. For instance it doesn't see ubnt equipment with frequency shift. 3b The sc...
by WirelessRudy
Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:55 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Microstrip (flat panel) versus eliptical (disk) antenas?
Replies: 24
Views: 2396

Re: Microstrip (flat panel) versus eliptical (disk) antenas?

The Metrolinq's are very good but still with some defects. We have two complete links running; 1 x 348 and 1 x 655 meters. It's a new product and manufacturer is still working on the firmware, Landatel actually warns for that.  :) We have some issues with signal strengths were we should get more for...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:35 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Apple devices won't connect
Replies: 49
Views: 32099

Re: Apple devices won't connect

yes djape, Please send to support and see what MT is going to do with it. I am dying to see what they'll say...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:02 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Random client disconnects in NV2 ROSv6.35.2
Replies: 8
Views: 1293

Re: Random client disconnects in NV2 ROSv6.35.2

Guys; very welcoming these suggestion. We'll look at the solutions (we already started to use Dude, but still a bit in a learning curve) and see how and if it can benefit us. But the main problem of the disassociate unit not coming back is not really cured with it. But I am in contact with support a...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:12 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Winbox3.4 released!
Replies: 54
Views: 19362

Re: Winbox3.4 released!

In the 'old' day a client listing in an AP in winbox could be edited in the 'comment' field, or even the 'access list' or 'connect to' list could be altered or add or deleted where the applying of the new text or setting did not make the subject interface disconnect. Since the latest versions of win...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:50 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Winbox3.4 released!
Replies: 54
Views: 19362

Re: Winbox3.4 released!

I've seen the same error many times lately. Don't know if this is winbox related or Window10 related.  We mainly use windows winbox sessions and at times we get this error messages presented. Sometimes the message repeats its self at such a speed the screen gets filled rapidly with the message until...
by WirelessRudy
Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:46 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Random client disconnects in NV2 ROSv6.35.2
Replies: 8
Views: 1293

Random client disconnects in NV2 ROSv6.35.2

We finished some 700+ routers upgrading to v6.35.2. Amongst them some 40 AP's and 650 clients connected to these. All AP use NV2. We now find that whenever an AP is disconnecting clients because some text field has to be changed in the AP's wireless access-list 'comment' field, or because the AP jus...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 21, 2016 7:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

[quote] Hardware Yes but for our centralized PPPoE server we have set a custom buffer /queue> type print detail 5 name="PPPoE-Customers" kind=pfifo pfifo-limit=10 These are the queues we'd use; CCR queues.JPG These are the queue type as used by the simple queues; CCR simple queues used queue.JPG And...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 21, 2016 6:40 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability
Replies: 162
Views: 38883

Re: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability

Your ptmp numbers are ok but not good. With this signals >100MBit/s should be doable. Under ideal conditions >130MBit/s should be seen. I see this with another product with only 4 connected CPEs to one Test-CPE. Well, to be honest I am convinced there must be people out there that can have 20-40 CP...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 21, 2016 3:55 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability
Replies: 162
Views: 38883

Re: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability

Hello! Yes, we are still going strong, all works to satisfaction. We also have introduced several SXT 5 ac, QRT 5 and SEXTANT to get higher speeds in ptmp. We achieve easily sustainable speeds of 80-90Mbit/s in such networks and yet everything is stable, peaks up to 150Mbit/s has been observed. We ...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 21, 2016 12:00 pm
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

2) In fact we don't have nowhere cable links with on one end gig and the other end fast. If we go deeper in the network it just changes to fast. What for example on one port of CCR is GB to start with but along the way it changes to fast - well my opinion is that section maybe needs to be set fast ...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 21, 2016 11:29 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability
Replies: 162
Views: 38883

Re: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability

One year plus later report! All is still very stable! We now got gigabit internet at basastations, our rb411 cpe:s devices is pumping data up to 20-25Mbit/s without any hassle, cpu 40%-45% and sxt goes up to 35Mbit/s and basastation with standard mt r52 radioboards. Pingtimes is less than 16ms all ...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 21, 2016 3:06 am
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

@WirelessRudy Have you noticed any improvements ? For me I am spending some time on (1) Flow control - OFF (2) Set to 100Mb sections of the network that have a mix of gigabit and 100Mb.. ( and test ) (3) Queue buffers (4) Correctly set Ethernet/MPLS/VPLS/ VLAN MTU and L2MTU (5) The effects of bridg...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 19, 2016 12:31 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Will Mikrotik shoot 110 km? 66 Miles?
Replies: 12
Views: 2226

Re: Will Mikrotik shoot 110 km? 66 Miles?

That means 60dBm EIRP.
What country are you from ?
One that doesn't pursue the rules.... some 60% of the worlds countries?
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 19, 2016 12:25 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability
Replies: 162
Views: 38883

Re: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability

One year plus later report! All is still very stable! We now got gigabit internet at basastations, our rb411 cpe:s devices is pumping data up to 20-25Mbit/s without any hassle, cpu 40%-45% and sxt goes up to 35Mbit/s and basastation with standard mt r52 radioboards. Pingtimes is less than 16ms all ...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 18, 2016 9:08 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server(s)
Replies: 574
Views: 419634

Re: 3.5 GIG - Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server

So, maybe we have a provider that is having saturation issues or we are not having a 100% contented to us pipe. But how to proof? We've had something similar in the past and than the provider comes up with some ftp servers we can download from with ftp and off course, always we reach top speed accor...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 18, 2016 9:05 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server(s)
Replies: 574
Views: 419634

Re: 3.5 GIG - Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server

Peplink multi stream download from some servers; peplink multi tcp download test from some servers.JPG http://www.speedtest.net; http://www.speedtest to and from local provider's server.JPG Both up as download on the main pipe reached 185mbps (roughly 100-140mbps client running) I tried to do some h...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 18, 2016 8:55 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server(s)
Replies: 574
Views: 419634

Re: 3.5 GIG - Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server

I tried your server from Spain now several times and best I ever got download was some 100Mbps. This is done directly from a CCR as our gateway router. We are on a 300/300 symmetric line and with other programs can easy push over 250Mbps. Doing same Mikrotik speedtest with its Window bandwidth test...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 18, 2016 6:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server(s)
Replies: 574
Views: 419634

Re: 3.5 GIG - Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server

I tried your server from Spain now several times and best I ever got download was some 100Mbps. This is done directly from a CCR as our gateway router. We are on a 300/300 symmetric line and with other programs can easy push over 250Mbps. Doing same Mikrotik speedtest with its Window bandwidth teste...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 17, 2016 7:52 pm
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

In regard to the Netonix switch with PoE inserter; I did some tests between the two CCR1016-12G's I have. And in fact there is hardly any difference in the traffic just over a cat6 cable between the two or with a Netonix Mini in between as switch. What struck me though is that max speed one way is o...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 17, 2016 7:38 pm
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

I have now almost everywhere L2 MTU set to 1600 and some port here and there still read 1580 The Netonix switches and one IgniNet Metrolinq 60Ghz link are also set to 1600. I only see that vlan's get automatically 14 bytes lower to 1586 The VPLS interfaces are still 1500 since I am not sure if they ...
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 16, 2016 8:56 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput
Replies: 47
Views: 10969

Re: Low NV2 802.11ac PTMP Thoughput

Well i had been facing exactly same issues with Mikrotik NV2,performance degrades after 25-30 clients,latency keeps between 15-20 ms. I have made following changes to my network and now everything has returned to normal. You can try these changes and check if it helps you. 1) all client's are kept ...
by WirelessRudy
Mon May 16, 2016 4:02 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Nv2 QoS
Replies: 5
Views: 2091

Re: Nv2 QoS

Rather old topic, but better ask here instead of making a new one. As other have asked - what exactly is the 'default' value for NV2 QoS. And please don't send me to the wiki. All that is written there is 'based on size and type'. Ok but what exactly does that mean. I guess smaller packets get high...
by WirelessRudy
Sun May 15, 2016 6:58 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability
Replies: 162
Views: 38883

Re: NV2 Real life PTMP migration and stability

@steen Where are you today with your PtMP deployment? Still MT based and NV2? Would be interesting to know since capacity demand and supply have gone up (supply gone cheaper) since last posts in this tread. Lately I see many of us in the forum run into this limit of MT AP's. Hard to get more then 50...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 14, 2016 2:52 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: AC equipment and spectral scan problem
Replies: 169
Views: 26782

Re: AC equipment and spectral scan problem

"Orange M": https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfQ7GYuoCRPyl2Il-sZxQlz4_-tgIcjc3dbUgrloVDz9PrU3t-LA Don't forget this is a manufacturer official forum. In most of manufacturer forums, is strictly forbidden mention or write about competitors brands Yes, but this is Mikrotik forum....
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 14, 2016 11:43 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: AC equipment and spectral scan problem
Replies: 169
Views: 26782

Re: AC equipment and spectral scan problem

"U brand", "Orange M" brand, "Mim brand"; What are you guys talking about? :? I'm guessing there's a reason why they arn't using the manufacturers names..... dont know why though.. and can't think of "Orange M" hmm "U-brand" = Ubiquity, "Mim brand" = Mimosa, "Orange brand" = ??? (Orange, mobile pho...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 14, 2016 11:05 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: AC equipment and spectral scan problem
Replies: 169
Views: 26782

Re: AC equipment and spectral scan problem

"U brand", "Orange M" brand, "Mim brand"; What are you guys talking about? :?
by WirelessRudy
Fri May 13, 2016 8:25 pm
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

:shock: @WirelessRudy: just wanted you to conduct the test in order to realize you could be having issues with the netonix switches. In my tests, didn't matter with or without flow control, duplex, MTU settings or whatever, pure gigabit throughput across the netonix switch was cut in more than half...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 12, 2016 1:02 am
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

If you're running tagged VPLS, I wouldn't have an L2 MTU lower than 1530 anywhere in the network for simplicity. In the WISP world, I've been burned a number of times with "Jumbo" frames set on PtP radios (from more than one manufacturer) where we actually weren't passing an L2 MTU that would suppo...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 12, 2016 12:38 am
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

ehh, you suspect the Netonix mtu setting might be an issue? I couldn't know, but for a clean start, you should do that test first: measure bandwidth between two directly connected routers for a reference point, then repeat the test with each router connected to the netonix, so that traffic crosses ...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 11, 2016 12:34 am
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

Nice wireless ASCII art. :) 8) Worst case, try setting the interfaces to 100M (if the wireless link is at or below 100M) - otherwise, I don't think there's a lot on the physical link that you can/must do. Any tweaking you investigate should come in the form of queues/traffic shaping. Ok, conclusion...
by WirelessRudy
Wed May 11, 2016 12:33 am
Forum: General
Topic: QoS, where? And then, how?
Replies: 0
Views: 558

QoS, where? And then, how?

Complicated network; Xmas tree structure with at some stages 7 to 8 legs down to the client. Mixed where some legs consist out of wireless. Capacity from uplink provider 300/300Mbps simmetric. Average max utilisation (at the moment) is 200Mbps down and 50Mbps up. Clients authenticated with PPPoE ser...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 9:12 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

In general, no, if you have a 100M device going through a switch which forwards along a 1G interface, there's no way for your device to overflow the capacity of the 1G interface so it doesn't hurt to go from smaller to larger, even with "dumb" devices like workgroup switches, media converters, etc....
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 9:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ROS dns cache has its limits?
Replies: 5
Views: 1388

Re: ROS dns cache has its limits?

Wow @ZeroByte! Good stuff and reasonable good explanations! :D The only thing acadabra to me is the last paragraph.... Anyway, on my network with some 700 clients and with some 20 AP locations (some of them just some OmniTik on a roof with a back haul antenna connecting it to an uplink node and upwa...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 6:59 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ROS dns cache has its limits?
Replies: 5
Views: 1388

Re: ROS dns cache has its limits?

You should set up your own cacheing DNS servers. A good strategy for a larger deployment would be to set up a pair of anycast IP addresses, and deploy lightweight forwarding-only caches around your network, all pointed to your real cacheing resolver hosts. Configure all clients to use your anycaste...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 6:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

@zerobyte; Any input on the mixed 100M/1000M theme? Is it indeed a better idea that once the route from gateway to client has seen the first 100M cable it is not wise to use 1000M in the network further down to the client? But what is the client itself installs gigabit in his LAN? Or it the 'mixtur...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 5:49 pm
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

Hook a spare CCR (:D or 2011 at least) to the already deployed CCR, and measure speeds from / to each RB to have a reference or "calibration test". Then repeat the same test, this time across the Netonix (CCR --> Netonix <-- CCR/2011) Do you get similar results? ehh, you suspect the Netonix mtu set...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 2:25 pm
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

Re: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

Was going to ask you before if you were using netonix... where are those switches located? Are they connected to a CCR?
Yes. Why?
We have one WS-8-250-AC that has a CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+ directly behind it. We actually use it as a gigabit power inserter for 3 antenna links.
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 2:19 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

Flow Control, should I use it? IMHO: NO . Now we have VoIP and great and more modern QoS systems thath can hadle this type of traffic the right way. extract from wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_flow_control It is an old mechanism, it was the FIRST mechanism! : "The first flow control m...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 12:18 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

Also opened another tread in relation to our issue but off tread of this one; http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=108202
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 12:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?
Replies: 25
Views: 4244

mtu in a mpls/vpls ospf vlan and routed mixed MikroTik network?

We'd use to have a simple routed network. (And bridged or switches in some places.) Central dhcp-servers assigned clients of IP's and each AP had its own network and was routed towards from the gateway. To upgrade our service level and improve the quality of the network (redundancy!) we started to w...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 11:45 am
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

@zerobyte; Any input on the mixed 100M/1000M theme? Is it indeed a better idea that once the route from gateway to client has seen the first 100M cable it is not wise to use 1000M in the network further down to the client? But what is the client itself installs gigabit in his LAN? Or it the 'mixture...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 11:35 am
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

Just opened a new tread on the dns discussion; http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php ... 01#p537093
We were drifting off topic.

Here I'd like to talk more about the 'flow control' and or mtu settings and or mixed 100M/1000M ethernet in our network
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 11:32 am
Forum: General
Topic: ROS dns cache has its limits?
Replies: 5
Views: 1388

ROS dns cache has its limits?

/ip dns set allow-remote-requests=yes cache-max-ttl=1d cache-size=2048KiB max-udp-packet-size=4096 query-server-timeout=2s query-total-timeout=10s servers=8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4,208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220 /ip firewall nat add action=redirect chain=dstnat comment="re-route dns requests to Google DNS" dst...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 11:21 am
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

Well, I switched the 'redirect to my own' rule on yesterday to be woken up this morning with several clients complaining their internet is down. After some checks found their resolving stopped working. (Google presenting the 'unvalid certificate' message???, other pages simply didn't open. Even when...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 2:07 am
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

Regarding your network, pointing out possible enhancements is just one part while tuning a production network... then comes actual enhancements deployment, measurements, testing and reasoning out results towards further improvements or pointing out bottlenecks and "weak rings in the chain"... it's ...
by WirelessRudy
Tue May 10, 2016 1:50 am
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

Great discussion going on here. So keep it going! :D One tidbit I'd like to add is that if you're going back and forth between 100Mbps and 1Gbps several times in a path, this can cause issues if the equipment isn't well aware of it - suppose a router can transmit across a gigabit interface to some ...
by WirelessRudy
Sun May 08, 2016 5:07 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

@WirelessRudy: Yes, Earthing in Spain or any other country with very hot weather can be a challenge... The best is not trusting anything already installed (unless you measure it and tests ok on a dry, hot summer day), and to install you own grounding, you can source everything needed from a Electri...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 07, 2016 9:18 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

@pukkita: We don't have an issue with errors. We see an occasional fcs error but usually that has something to do with poor cabling indeed and lately we found our installers tied an ftp cable to a 'cattle wire' sending thousands of volts (low amp) that induced into our network cable!!!! But new to m...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 07, 2016 12:43 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control in ROS
Replies: 10
Views: 3162

Re: Flow Control in ROS

Best would be to eliminate this 100M devices out of your network. Second best is to enable flow control. There it depends on the devices how they do flow control to make a smooth slow down of traffic at the overflowed interface. Hmm, but what do you refer to as "network"? Does that include the clie...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 07, 2016 12:39 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

More bandwidth? Without knowing all the details of your network, links, load, traffic, etc - there is really no way to answer that. If you have over-sold your bandwidth, you don't have a lot of choice. You can try traffic shaping, throttling, etc.. Flow Control is going going to help with the physi...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 07, 2016 2:38 am
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control in ROS
Replies: 10
Views: 3162

Re: Flow Control in ROS

So, is the flow control a good thing or not? I've found this negative old article: http://virtualthreads.blogspot.sk/2006/02/beware-ethernet-flow-control.html What do you think? It depends. We use it at links where speed changes. E.g. 100M to 1G or Ethernet to wireless. There it helps to reduce the...
by WirelessRudy
Sat May 07, 2016 2:07 am
Forum: General
Topic: Flow Control, should I use it?
Replies: 35
Views: 11600

Re: Flow Control, should I use it?

Honestly, the only time that you **REALLY** need it off, is with VoIP. it really screws with the packets and makes tons of jitter. So nobody can really switch it on? I'd presume every traffic nowadays has VoIP packages in it as well (if you are a internet provider)? We have tcp throughput issues an...
by WirelessRudy
Fri May 06, 2016 11:42 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Newsletter 71
Replies: 66
Views: 22263

Re: Newsletter 71

Maybe not entirely related, but spectral scan missing on AC makes the units very unappealing to us. We have high noise areas (shared among other WISPs) and we have to stick with normal a/n for our back haul, as we cannot get to see where is open space for 80mhz. We have recently started implementin...
by WirelessRudy
Thu May 05, 2016 6:53 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server(s)
Replies: 574
Views: 419634

Re: 3.5 GIG - Public-Mikrotik-Bandwidth-Test-Server

Hi, great work done. We used to use a Mikrotik router from a friend's network to do 'real' internet traffic test from our network towards his server. But his business is sold.... Anyway, I can use your's now to test again. We have a 300/300Mb simmetric line delivered to us over a dual hop microwave ...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:28 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ethernet ports overrunning - default interface queue (only-hardware-queue) not working well
Replies: 9
Views: 2965

Re: ethernet ports overrunning - default interface queue (only-hardware-queue) not working well

Any news to this tread? We seem to have same sort of issue. Even between two CCR's (CCR1016-12G) with a 30cm Cat-6 cable we can't stransport more than 250-300Mbps tcp from one side to the other. cpu's on both end are not reaching 100%. (although their is a big difference. One bandwith test on 'send'...
by WirelessRudy
Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:08 pm
Forum: RouterBOARD hardware
Topic: New OmniTik!
Replies: 0
Views: 605

New OmniTik!

Is Mikrotik considering replacement for the Omnitiks? Just the upgrade to 'ac' and faster cpu would already be a big bonus. (PA models!) Advantage of OmniTik that so far not seen in any other AP soluction: 1- Light weight 2- 4 poe-out ports! 3- Cheap Improvement needed in order of importance due cha...
by WirelessRudy
Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:22 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Antenna diagrams
Replies: 1
Views: 758

Antenna diagrams

Anybody has seen some antenna diagrams de SXT-HG's? ('n' y 'ac' models).

And the normal SXT diagrams are also not very usable. The Vertical axis of the gain has no figures which makes the diagram almost useless.
by WirelessRudy
Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:52 pm
Forum: SwOS
Topic: Feature Request - Name Ports
Replies: 24
Views: 6796

Re: Feature Request - Name Ports

1.15 from today can add port name :) .
Indeed! At last! :D :D
by WirelessRudy
Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:52 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Minimum power settings for Mikrotik radios
Replies: 17
Views: 2147

Re: Minimum power settings for Mikrotik radios

Generally what are you using for links? On the links > 2km I use Jirious 25dBi dishes, > same but 29dBi. Now we also fit some ubnt dishes. On the short to medium we use either dynadish, QRT (with metal shield), Sextant (with metal shield). On the real short ones (20mtr to 500mtrs) we use some SXT's...
by WirelessRudy
Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:57 am
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Minimum power settings for Mikrotik radios
Replies: 17
Views: 2147

Re: Minimum power settings for Mikrotik radios

Generally what are you using for links? On the links > 2km I use Jirious 25dBi dishes, > same but 29dBi. Now we also fit some ubnt dishes. On the short to medium we use either dynadish, QRT (with metal shield), Sextant (with metal shield). On the real short ones (20mtr to 500mtrs) we use some SXT's...
by WirelessRudy
Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:35 pm
Forum: Wireless Networking
Topic: Minimum power settings for Mikrotik radios
Replies: 17
Views: 2147

Re: Re:

I do understand. As I said, my links work good nearby the zero. If you have too much selective antenna, you need to attenuate the signal somehow or change the antenna because overheating the input of the receiver makes the link problems. Strange I always thought in reception mode a low-noise amplif...
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