450G update CPU+RAM+Solid Capicitors

Hi MikroTik

You have updated and brought a lot of new products out which is great. (951G)

Are you planning to update the long serving 450G? With a new gen CPU, more memory and maybe solid capacitors?

(Maybe 800MHz with 512Mb ram to sit between 915, 2011 and the RB1200?)

I think it would be great if you did to keep it competitive with other products such as 951G and 2011, but everyone can carry on using the current 450 enclosures.

Would anyone else like to see MikroTik update this product?

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Hi,

I too would like to see an upgraded version of the 450 or such - Whilst the new 951 looks great, its still badged and sold as SOHO equipment which is not the impression we wish to give our customers.

Hi Guys,

Dobby - Yes I agree it would be good to have a cheaper dual core product..

Thanks for your replies its good to know I’m not the only one wanting this product update.

Lets hope MikroTik will reply with an answer…

The 450g is the device which was the worst product we used. The capacitor problem caused a lot of outages. The RB2011 is a good replacement so far.

Yes which is why it would be good to see them being made with Solid Capicitors instead of liquid.

The compact size of the 450 is what I need 2011 is too big and don’t need all the ports…but every ones needs are different

I would of thought the 450 is one of the best selling units…so others would need this

If MikroTik does replace the venerable 450G with a different product, I must insist that it not receive a downgrade in either RAM or NAND flash. Sadly, we have been seeing a trend with this: The RB1100 and the RB1100AH “rev. A” both had 512MB of NAND flash, but then the 1100 was discontinued and the AH was revised to use a 64MB NAND part, even though it sold for the same price as the old one. New RB models that have been coming out recently typically no longer have the NAND size even listed on the spec sheet. MikroTik’s only response to complaints about all of this was: “it’s a router…why do you need that much space on a router?”

Well, I need the extra space for MetaROUTER. If MetaROUTER guests could run off of the SD or CF card, then I wouldn’t have a problem with 64MB of NAND. But they have to live on main NAND, and 64MB is not near enough for what I do. Using MetaROUTER, I use RB450Gs to make all-in-one internet gateway, firewall, and IP phone PBX servers (including voicemail) for small business offices. 512MB gives me enough room for RouterOS, an OpenWRT userland, Asterisk, a complete set of prerecorded audio prompts, hold music, the firmware needed to boot my SIP phones (200MB!), and space for voicemail storage. Asterisk and OpenWRT can run comfortably in 128MB of RAM, leaving the other half of RAM for RouterOS. The ~700MHz single-core CPU has more than enough horsepower to drive all of this. At $99 USD, the value of the 450G is out of this world: combine a 450G with a PoE switch and some Polycom phones, and you have a complete internet and IP PBX system that is hard to compete with on price alone, not to mention performance and feature-set.

If MikroTik kills the 450G and replaces it with something that has a quarter of the 450G’s NAND storage (or less!), the replacement will be of no use to me. I’d also love to see a dual-core version of the 450G, but not if it means that MetaROUTER won’t run: the 1100AHx2 still doesn’t support MetaROUTER even though the single-core version does, and I don’t believe we have yet seen a multicore RouterBoard released that will…especially not at the $99 price point.

Right now, as far as I am concerned, the only thing wrong with the 450G is that its gigabit ports don’t support jumbo frames! Everything else about it is fantastic.

– Nathan