Since some time I must replace my 2011. When is a 5009 ax coming out? Bare minimum required.
It has to be fanless.
Thanks
You mean RB5009 WITH Wifi ? I hope that version never comes…
Drop-in replacement for 2011 is L009, there is version with or without wifi.
And it’s fanless.
I need at least two 2.5G ports.
Now you are changing requirements… you said you needed replacement.
RB2011 doesn’t have any 2.5Gb ports.
There are no routers with at least 2x 2.5Gb ports AND wifi, not even when considering using 1 SFP+ as 2.5Gb port.
You need 2 devices then.
You are probably bound to 2 devices.
There is a version of the 5009 with SFP+. That allows for two 2.5G .
I don’t want more clutter.
Every version of rb5009 has SFP+ port but there is NO version of RB5009 with wifi.
Basic chip used on that platform doesn’t support wifi.
It is what it is.
That’s why I haven’t bought anything yet.
First I couldn’t netinstall, and now I got 2.5G WAN.
I was only interested in 2.5G WAN for a 2.5G computer.
The ISP’s router has one 2.5G LAN port but otherwise doesn’t cut it as more than a modem.
MikroTik isn’t really in 2.5G yet.
Yes there are some devices with a single 2.5G port and an SFP that can do 2.5G, but what you really would want is a device like the 5009 but with several 2.5G (UTP) ports. And probably some switches too.
And then for the router probably with wireless as well.
They should move quick or else all of the competitors will have overtaken them.
I see you have edited the title (I had intended to add ax).
If the router is fanless and has two SFP+ instead of one NBASE-T it would be even better as there is a bit of an ISP price war.
First 2.5G switch has been released already a year ago.
8x 2.5Gb ethernet and 2x SFP+ ports.
Not fanless though.
https://mikrotik.com/product/crs310_8g_2s_in
10G switch, fanless:
https://mikrotik.com/product/crs304_4xg_in
Personal preference: all-in-one is a single point of failure I do not like. Not even at home.
As reference: 2 weeks ago my RB5009 went completely flat due to something going wrong with 7.17rc1 upgrade. Didn’t have time to investigate nor netinstall at that moment but I could plug in my old Hex (reduced capacity, ok, but everything worked).
Other future proofing possibilities:
CRS with 4x SFP+ and 8x GBASE-T with 5 Gbps routing (for DOCSIS 4.0)
Ideally something similar but with 10 Gbps routing (so that it is also usable with fibre)
But I will get something with a fan only if it is the only way to match the current WAN.
Well, what I do not like about the switch products is the relatively small number of ports.
When I want a switch to extend the number of ports on my router, I would like to have at least 12 and probably 16 UTP ports.
For the 10G switch, I would have liked 8 ports.
“only” 8 2.5G ports that would be OK for a router, but not for a switch.
It would likely be better for the CRS/router to have 2x SFP+, 2x 10GBASE-T, and 8x GBASE-T at least.
I would not like it for it to be more than half-width, but I like optional ears. 1U height is OK (better if it can fit on a 1U tray). WiFi in a rack works for me.
And I stopped using 2.4 GHz.
CRS = switch. It has routing capabilities but not much.
You’re most likely looking for CCR then. And then prices go up up up.
E.g. CCR2004-16G-2S+
16 Gb ethernet ports, 2SFP+ cages, PLENTY of power. No Wifi. No passive cooling.
There is even a version with 12x SFP+ cages and 2x 25G SFP cages. Does that sound like something ? Pricey though … and you’d still have to buy all those SFP+ modules.
Why not use RB5009 with SFP+ port for second 2.5Gb and then add AP ? E.g. AX2, then you got 4 more extra 1Gb ethernet ports.
You can have 2 times this combo for the price of one CCR2004 which doesn’t have wifi…
i meant a new class of CRS with 10G ports but only 5 Gbps routing.
if this is not possible to make fanless, I’m even less interested in a CCR (I think there was a small fanless one but I did not buy it because it had only 8/9 ports, no WiFi, its power was overkill at the time, and I could manage with FastTrack).
I think it would be OK if 2.5/5/10 Gbps routing was only achievable with FastTrack. So the 5009 is likely overkill for me right now in terms of power, while not being enough for the next WAN upgrade because it has a 2.5G port instead of a second SFP+.
I liked the small and fanless CRS with WiFi but the most powerful one was like a 2011 for routing (it was like a 2011 with more ports that I could manage without, even if I could have used 3 or 4 more).
The 5009 is only acceptable in terms of ports because I am using fewer of them ATM.
I’m no longer looking for a 5009 with WiFi unless if has SFP+ or 10GBASE-T instead of 2.5G. The current versions are already a bad investment for me.
5NBASE-T port instead of 2.5G port would be fine if more than 5 Gbps cannot be reached with FastTrack.
I also see that DOCSIS 3.1 can reach 10 Gbps downstream, so 5 Gbps could be the best value on cable soon like 2.5G is now.
I do have a CCR2004-16G-2S+ in use at work, and maybe I would consider buying one for home, but it would have to come with 2.5G ports when I buy it now!
It does exist in passive cooling version: CCR2004-16G-2S+PC
I am not a fan of SFP+ slots because I do not use fiber inside my home (when I get fiber from ISP it will be terminated as UTP) and because all but fiber modules run much too hot. And with passively cooled devices it is even worse.
And while I could easily fill four/five 10G ports in the future, I should not need 2.5G ports besides that or so many gigabit ones.
I see no fibre in my LAN, so 2x SFP+ would be enough for redundant WAN connection.