hi guys
is it possible to run an AP on A/B/G mode with both 2.4 and 5.8 one for backbone to server (5.8) and one for hotspot (2.4)
and use this a diplexer such as this to separate signals into two antennas.
thanks
You’re talking about two radio cards, merging the antenna’s into one tower cable, and then splitting them apart at the top, right?
Two of those duplexers costs less than just putting a second run of LMR up the tower? You’re going to be introducing signal loss with each additional connection point also, so that 4 more connections than you’d normally need that would be susceptible to water infiltration and signal loss.
This buys you what?
I don’t think MT supports A/B/G on one card. It’s A or B/G, not both. Someone please correct my if I’m wrong.
No, I don’t think anybody makes a card that can do 2.4G and 5G at the same time, and I’m hoping that wasn’t what hellbound was actually asking about.
you mean you never heard of Super AG?
nobody from mikrotik never heard of it?
just google “Super AG”
combination of 5.8 and 2.4 toghether:
http://www.sparklan.com/product_details.php?prod_id=13
it can boost speed a lot.
and those guys had reason to make that device
any idea?
no this is not what I’m talking about.
The device you pointed us to is not a single card that does all three bands, it’s an AP with two seperate wireless cards in it, one for each band.
WX-7800A contains two separate wireless connectivity radio transceivers, which support all three popular wireless networking specifications.
I’ll ask again, just what is it you’re trying to do, since it isn’t two cards combined into a single antenna cable and demuxed at the antenna end?
I understand what you are asking now.
First off I dont think that an AP can run A and G at the same time with out two radios connected to two antennas. A client card will scan for A and G APs but connects to one or the other not both.
But lets just say that they can, then your problem would be that MT will force you to pick one or the other. So in MT you can’t do it with one card.
But You can install two cards, one for A and one for G. Then you could connect them to two antennas or add the hyperlink Diplexer for two radios to one antenna, as long as the antenna supports A and G.
Did this help or did I miss the point again!?!
FIRST: there is NO such miniPCI card in market that actual DOES 2.4 and 5 GHz at the same time
SECOND: stop dreaming/spamming the forums with useless topics about things that actually DOES NOT EXIST
seriously, i almost fell of chair 
i wonder what will be next? a/b/g/turbo/and 900MHz from one parabolic sector antenna? 
I think he got the point with out your post!
Hellbound,
If your dreaming that’s good! Dreamers are the people that make this happen in this world. The rest of us just follow.
actually that is technologically possible (I mean, Hellbounds dream of 1 mPCI with 2 bands)
it will be more like 2 mPCI cards together in one slot.
the drawback would be - if one card is blown by accident (lightning and stuff) the other will be rendered useless also.
as result you will end with greater expenses that you have now.
or create something like RB14, but for mPCI interface 
it is really shame that your company develop driver mainly for atheros and you have not actually read atheros’s suer-g.com completely and never heard of super-AG,
you better look closely to find mini pci that work on SUPER-AG.
if you couldn’t find use atheros.com product finder. it might give you some clues.
just for your information check this:
http://www.super-g.com/faqs.html
To be honest with you I did a mistake to chose Mikrotik, and since I have purchased and implemented my network I have no other choice unless I have some extra money to convert.
nice link hellbound, but where is the catch?
super AG mode gives same theoretical speed as if you set atheros based chip R52 in turbo mode (or whatever you call available data throughput to 108Mbit/s air rate)
and i looked and atheros products and find NONE that could provide with one card (integrated or no) 802.11g and 802.11a standard simultaneously
and your idea is bad to end-user - due to fact, that i mentioned before, there are possibility, that one is blown, so you have to change a whole card.
as production of such card would be more expensive, and replacement of such card would me even more pricier.
it would be good for sales but not customer.
and since this is user forum, i can only state my opinion and mine only.
Here is some cards that can operate on Super-AG modulation:
EMP-8601 6G: 802.11a/b/g 316mW
WLM54AG
Sparklan :: WMIA166AG 802.11a/b/g Mini PCI Module
they’re cheap and easy to find.
I don’t quite understand why mikrotik officials in forums are not really
announced by their nickname or logo.
all we know that all mikrotik officials are putting comments in the forum
as it is a planet outside mikrotik broundry.
why do they always have to play “WE-ARE-ALWAYS-RIGHT” game?
when do you really want to officially confirm that you are wrong about
any matter?
Why I have not received any support from mikrotik except vague answers?
even microsoft a multi billion dollar company who has a big reputation in
buggy softwares will dare to announce “MICROSOFT CONFIRM THIS IS
MICROSOFT WINDOWS BUG”
please do not offend anyone in this forum personally or impersonally
when you have lack of knowledge or your other party (like me
does not have good knowledge).
I hope I can receive official answers from mikrotik, I don’t really
understand who’s the boss there or who make statement and how
shall we deal with this forum?
If i have offended you or anyone else i deeply regret that and ask for forgiveness. I did not mean to do so.
These cars you just posted here DOES support TurboA, turboG modes they really do, here you are correct, but they do not do so at the same time, you cannot set then in turbo-AG mode so they are working in 2.4 GHz and 5GHz.
About forums - these are announced to be user forums, where one user replies to another, and as all we are human beings we can be wrong, all of us.
Nope, not offended.
I think I see where the misunderstanding is coming from.
Super AG bonds together two 54mb channels, yes, but it doesn’t bond 2.4GHz with 5GHz, it bonds together two of the non overlapping 2.4GHz channels or two non overlapping 5GHz channels.
It cannot operate in two different bands at the same time. There is no such beast. The first AP you linked to has two radios, same as if you put two mini PCI cards in your router.
What you are requesting and complaining a lack of support for does not exist today.
EMP-8601 6G: 802.11a/b/g 316mW
WLM54AG
Sparklan :: WMIA166AG 802.11a/b/g Mini PCI Module
Most people here are familiar with that card. It does 2.4GHz or 5GHz at one time, not both.
hellbound, you are talking about regular turbo which is supported in routeros for a long time. it does not use two modes at the same time, but channels, as 0ldman said. none of the links that you provided do say something about simultaneous use of multiple modes.
i’ve tried to explain that several times - and ended in accusations of being rude etc. etc. this is USELESS.
see next post - http://forum.mikrotik.com//viewtopic.php?t=12998
i wonder what will be next! 
I think you ha missted the simultaneous word!
- open this > http://www.sparklan.com/product_details.php?prod_id=13
- press CTRL+F and search for Simultaneous. it will show it to you.
to my understanding :
11g turbo uses 40mhz in 2.4 ghz
11a turbo uses 40mhz in 5.x ghz
11ag, uses 40mhz in 2.4 plus 40mhz in 5.8 doubling actual throughout.
I’ve seen another orinoco ap-4000 triband which I think also is using the same concept.
in fact, I don’t care about this topic anymore, and I don’t really care if mikrotik add new features or not, what I need urgently is that mikrotik fixes the bugs in its current so called stable 2.9.38, I have two access point crashing on me with 40 user on each one of them. that I can’t even make support file after crash, I’ll post my hand phone screen shot in another post.
thanks.