Any kind of "Compliance Test" for Mikrotik like Ubiquiti Has

I use “Compliance Test” on our Ubiquiti Bullets once in a while for testing, to find out if a problem is actually interference or not. It lets me TX all the way down in the 2300Mhz spectrum. We have a few Mikrotik bridges out there, does anyone know if there is such a thing for Mikrotik? I know there is super-channel or something, but that requires a costly upgrade? Again, this is just for testing, I’m sure a license is required to operate on these frequencies full time.

superchannel?!?!?
take a look in there

RouterOS WinBox Error “Couldn’t change Interface”, -license does not allow this freqmode(6)

Looks like Mikrotik makes you pay $$ to use this, unlike Ubiquiti :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: Errr…

upgrade to 4.3/4.4/4.5 and superchannel will work :stuck_out_tongue:

It is illegal to test at those frequencies… If you want to see if interference is the problem then get a spectrum analyzer.

^^ OK then why do they put Super-Channel on there if it is illegal to test with them? Does anyone know how much/if possible an FCC license on those channels would be to broadcast legally??

Before you purchase a superchannel license you are required to prove that you can legally use those frequencies. An example would be having your amateur radio license.

You must be from US :smiley:

Even if it is available, regulations do not allow you to transmit at those frequencies w/o licence.

  1. I am from US
  2. How much and where would one apply for license? I figure if it is a few hundred dollars a year, that would be ok. I would be nice to transmit on those frequencies and pay for a license and not worry about getting fined.

Thanks for everyone’s help

Sorry I don’t know much about licenced bands…(I’ve spoken in jest in my previous email, if that is not clear :slight_smile: )

Here’s what you’re getting yourself into: :smiley:

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf

Frequency allocation is a big business in US. I’m sure you’ve heard of recent wireless frequency auction:

http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/3/spectrum-auction-verizon-big-winner-google-happy-loser-

Imagine if you paid so much money you would not be very happy if someone was “testing” in frequency you own…

OK thanks, I just figured Mikrotik allowed it for SOME reason, like if you could by annual frequency licenses, but apparently that is not the case. And no, I would not broadcast on these frequencies unless I would have a license.

Also, I’m not looking to “buy” a part of the spectrum, that is whole nother deal! Multi-Million/Billion deal! We have another market that pays like $400/year for a license on the 33Ghz spectrum for a DS3 backhaul. I was just thinking maybe there was a small fee for something in the 2.3 or 2.5Ghz spectrum. WHY does streakwave sell a special 2.5Ghz antennas??? Am I missing something? I think people are transmitting on these frequencies its one of the things where “Nobody really cares”, even though the frequencies appear to be allocated to someone, no one is using them.

Also, where/what label is the 2.4Ghz 802.11 allocated on the chart?

If people are transmitting on licensed spectrum without a license the FCC most certainly would care, as that is illegal.

The 2.4GhZ spectrum for 802.11b/g is towards the end of the 300MhZ to 3GhZ slice, the two green “Amateur” sections under 2400.

802.11 b/g is considered Amature Radio? Because Amature Radio requires a license. Wish they could just put “unlicensed” on all the unlicensed spectrums… This will make it hard on determining what and what isn’t legal now.

Can someone explain why a wireless company site is selling these? http://www.streakwave.com/items.asp?Cc=ANT2.5GHz&Bc=

There has to be some give in why Mikrotik has Superchannel as an option, and why so many Mini-PCI cards transmit 4.9-6.1Ghz, and why a wireless company sells 2.5Ghz antennas.

802.11 b/g is considered Amature Radio?

2.4GhZ is part of the ISM (industrial, scientific and medical) band, which is a subsection of amateur radio frequencies. Part of the ISM spec is that you have to deal with all interference yourself, and that’s why it’s used for 802.11b/g - there are no license issues whatsoever since no one can complain about interference.

Because Amature Radio requires a license

It is my understanding that being a licensed radio operator has nothing to do with using licensed frequencies. Being a licensed radio operator gives you the right to use amateur radio spectrum without being assigned frequencies by the government. There are a lot more amateur radio frequencies than just the ISM band, which itself is a lot more than 2.4-2.5GhZ.

Can someone explain why a wireless company site is selling these? There has to be some give in why Mikrotik has Superchannel as an option, and why so many Mini-PCI cards transmit 4.9-6.1Ghz, and why a wireless company sells 2.5Ghz antennas.

Because they have customers that have paid for licensed frequencies.

GREAT info, thanks alot! So…there is a way to pay for those specific licensed frequencies, gotcha.

Oh, absolutely. Look at specex.com, for example.

I also know a ranch that pays the FCC an annual fee (something like a few hundred dollars a year), for a licensed VHF frequency. Your not actually BUYING part of the spectrum, you more of leasing/renting a part of it, and the FCC allocates that portion of the frequency to your location/coverage area. That is what I’m talking about.

Here is another classic example. GMRS 2-way radios are supposed to require a license from the FCC to transmit on, the cost, $75/year. There are currently 100,000’s of these radios being sold in large retail stores such as Walmart, Radio Shack, etc. NOBODY is buying a license before they transmit on these channels!!! They better be careful right? That is TOTALLY illegal. Man the FCC is going to be busy! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Your best option is to get 3.65 GHz licence. You can find more info here:

http://www.ligowave.com/wiki/index.php/LigoWave_3.65GHz_Licensing_Process_Walkthrough#Introduction

Well there are certainly individuals who subscribe to the notion that it’s legal until you get caught :smiley:

Here’s lic info from fcc:

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=service_home&id=general_mobile