Any plans for the future of Mikrotik and the Broadband 2.0 world? ftth Is becoming abig kille ro f wireless but in our State here in New Mexico we have seen problems with companies like Qwest. They are trying to deliver broadband 2.0 but they can not. If Mikrotik had a project to spear head this market I am sure that this will solidify your place in the world of wireless choices.
I love my Mikrotik’s but I need to be able to provide more to my customers. Is NSTREME the best way to do it or is there plans for greater speeds. (Broadband 2.0 is 10Mb or greater) Please tell me you guys are working around the clock for a great solution. If NSTREME is the way to go then how could one implement a MESH from end to end like this and do you have a recommended Routerboard for such projects?
It would be nice though to see MT offering Fibre Optic based alternatives as well. We are planning to deploy a moderate (5000+ clients) FTTH test roll out this year, and would definitely give MT a preference if they had something to offer.
Here is a company that did offer broadband 2.0 via wireless, but they are now shutdown due to a law suit with Qwest. I guess law suits with Qwest makes them angry and they don’t like that so they will unplug you. Any ways. The company is called SkyWi which is wild because they reside in my state of new Mexico but they have customers in multiple states. So everyone with them are down Internet and VoIP wise. Which is sad. So while they are down we want to help their customers in our area. Sooooo… We want to offer broadband 2.0 in the near future. Would at least doing NSTREME to the home be enough speeds for customers? What is the most you can get with NSTREME?
Oh here is that link of that broadband 2.0 company that does wireless.
Thx for the links desertadmin, but as jp pointed out, Fibre is going to be the king of last-mile for the next 15 - 20 years, if not more. Fibre Optic has immense possibilities, and we’re working hard to build a fibre optic network for the last mile in our country. Mikrotik has a great product, and all their equipment are excellently built and priced. I’m sure, if the put their minds to it, the could carry the same characteristics onwards to the Fibre Optic market. I hope the do so soon!
MikroTik ROS currently supports fiber interfaces. We’re using an Intel Pro 1000 with LX fiber in one router and two 10G Fiber adapters in another. As long as the Ethernet chipset on the adapter is supported; it should work. As far as a RouterBoard with fiber, I’m sure they’ll come. An RB1000 variant with a GBIC slot or two would be very useful (but probably also increase the cost).
Yes, dankerr. That is certainly possible, adding ethernet interfaces to PCs. But, what I would love to see is Fibre Optic offerings like RouterBoard. I would like to have CPEs from Mikrotik that have Fibre Optic interface on the Wan side. Granted it is going to be more expensive, but for wired networks who’re doing FTTH using Active Optics, this would be a very good choice to move forward, given that you’re having the power of the advancements in the Linux Kernel on each CPE. Wireless APs from MT already give this functionality to Wireless Carriers. We’re still trying to mix this and that to get the same.
Yes FTTH is the best that is understandable. But for a WISP to survive in the market we must compete to a closer degree then b/g mode that is not bidirectional. We must become a bidirectional symmetric provider of 10+Mb(UP and DOWN) to the customer. The problem is that the CPE side I do not think can handle 10Mb+ symmetrically. Has any one else been able to do such a thing? We have an OC3 facility so we have the bandwidth we just need to provide it to the customers.
I am just curious to see what other people are doing out there and if it is possible to offer such a thing to compete with FTTH, cable and aDSL2.
We are not in a radio deployment at all, as we live in a very densely populated city (13M living on 200sq km). But, this year in Communicasia, I came across a company based in SG called SmartBridges who does seem to offer much power CPEs at quite reasonable costs. I did have a preliminary talk with them about having MT on the CPEs, which they don’t advertise, as they compete directly with MT. The CPEs they make have quite a power radio inside, and they can do custom builds for you to allow for even higher output, within the regulatory guidelines in your area.
As for us, FTTH is the future plan, and we’re still searching for stable equipment partners.
Broadband 2.0 is referring to providing more bandwidth to your customers. Virgin announced that they will be providing 50Mb via FTTH this summer in the UK. This is not about a standard for your country it is a bout a standard for the rest of the world. You can not live in a b/g world any more unless you can push more bandwidth like a MIMO 802.11N based cards. I am not talking about stringing fiber to rural communities. I am talking about being able to provide something that will allow us to stay in this industry and to give enterprise class solutions to our clients. If we do not then their will be no WiFi community. We must work now and at least try to push for more speed throughput. Those that post they can get what ever speeds always seem to post only UDP packet tests. Which is very idiotic. What networks mainly push UDP packets. hardly any most traffic is TCP/IP not TCP/UDP. I am just saying that we need to work together and explain where we are in the world and what is growing. As a WISP we must be competitive. Please band together and show more support for one another do not point fingers, we must improve and give valuable feedback to grow this product more.
Any ways…
NSTREME; no one has given me an answer on how many ppl are recommended per sector and what is the most throughput any one has seen reliably on an NSTREME customer to sector real world example.
Broadband 2.0 is a real term most people are just not aware of it yet. Lets make them aware by providing the speeds to our customers.
BroadBand 2.0 is a marketing trick word. Just provide EnourmousBand 999 to your customers and use whatever technology you and your economists team can calculate to be a good business for you. I would recommend digging for optics, that can be made cheaper when digging for gas+optic; optic for you+optic for other companies, etc. etc…
The Air can only take so much before becoming too noisy and noise bursts at times can cause service to quite simply drop all packets where optic fiber is rock solid. Competition will provide more via fiber like IPTV so get off your wireless asses and give reliable communications to your customers.
While you are correct in your statement that optics is the connection method of choice when it comes to maximizing speed, in many scenarios such is not an option because of exorbitant costs. In rural areas, where density is low, cost per customer for laying down fibre is very expensive. So, Wireless will be the preferred choice in such cases. I’ve heard of a new wireless technology which is currently being tested by NTT (Japan) called Super3G which can provide speeds upto 250Mbps per CPE. Granted this is more of a telecom technology, not broadband, but as days are going by, it appears that all last mile technologies are converging to provide the same thing — bandwidth. What the customer does with that amount of BW available to them is becoming an entirely different ball game, with more and more content becoming available over the IP network. I won’t be surprised if in a few years time all the famous TV channels start being offered over the internet, with HD.
Cartes is very correct on the rural area deployment. That is pretty much the boat we are in. It is nor feasible for a fiber roll out. We are in a very NON-affluent part of New Mexico. So wireless is the only competition against Qwest’s DSL. And we want to be able to provide more than just a few Mb but closer to 10-15 Mb this will secure our future and allow us to be a better provider. Our problem is that when we use NSTREME as a back haul we can only push about a 30Mb and even 24Mb to a client using 333 boards and 532RBs. I would love to hear a story of someone who is able to do such a task using the same type of boards. Are ppl using nstreme with turbo or not etc..
