CCR 1016-12G 2Gbit upgrade recomendation

Hello,

I have CCR 1016-12G router running 6.49.15 using a NETGEAR CM2000 cable modem and Netgear RAX120-AX12 as AP

ISP gave me a deal to upgrade to 2Gb speed.

Have 5 ports used all fine at 1Gb, 1 of 5 looking to upgrade to 2Gb in near future.
Very stable setup for several years and don’t really want to upgrade to V7 right now.

Need recommendation on a router that will run V6 but supports 2Gb with at least 1 port and/or SFP+ for AP

Just need to have 2Gb port for cable modem and ability for RAX120 to see 2Gb to its port.
Currently cable modem plugs into port 1 of CCR 1016-12G and output is to RAX120.

Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance! :smiley:

Likely you are going to have to go for a ccr with at least 1 SFP+ port, and perhaps 2.
eg. CCR1036-8g-2s+ if you can find one.

Then how does your ISP provide you with 2Gbe, it seems like a non-standard value.

If over a 2.5Gbe ethernet connection, none of the CCR 10xx series supports this directly.
You could plug a SFP+ port on the CCR into an SFP+ port on a managed 2.5G switch
(And with router on a stick, have the Switch also providing lan side connectivity, and only need 1SFP+ on CCR)

If over a bonded pair of 1G interfaces you could use your existing CCR.
(The Netgear also supports bonding for lan side)

If over a 10G SFP+, you can use the CCR (with SFP+ port) directly.

Thank you rplant!

As for the ISP speed that was just what they called it, I would guess it really is 2.5Gb.

Currently the CM2000 cable modem plugs in to port 1 of the CCR 1016 and RAX120 AP plugs into port 2.
CCR1016 hosts DHCP and Firewall. RAX120 is just wireless AP.

I just want to come to out of the CCR1016 or replacement with 2.5Gb to the RAX120 AP.

The other wired devices are fine to stay at 1Gb for now, down the road would like to have
10Gb for 1 workstation, but that isn’t required currently.

I will look into the bonded pair, have looked at LACP but as I understand it that only gives
1Gb with redundancy.

I will look for a CCR1036-8g-2S+ and see what I can find.

Thank you for your reply!!
Tim

An ISP can sell whatever they want and call it whatever they want. Comcast/Xfinity out here has sold 1200Mbps for a long time (no real way for people to see that extra 200Mbps unless they modems and routers with 2.5/5/10G ports).

Most consumer modems that support DOCSIS 3.1 and later have the ability to bond 1G ports (as suggested) using LACP. LACP will load-balance based on Layer 2 (MAC address), Layer 2+3 (MAC + IP), and some even do L2+3+4 (TCP/UDP port). The device builds up a hash table of those tuples or triplets and alternates sending data across the bonded links. It’s not just 1Gbps with redundancy.

Where the 1Gbps limit comes to play is the fact that an individual flow cannot be spread across ports. So a single download test might max out at 975Mbps, but a second test run alongside it might make up the difference (either 200-300Mbps in the 1200Mbps case, or another 975+Mbps in the 2000Mbps case). Speedtest.net, by default, will try to run tests to 2-4 servers at a time, which often gets around that single-flow limitation.

Of course, it’s usually more about multiple devices/users in the house getting access to 500-900Mbps each, as opposed to one device getting 1200-2000Mbps by itself.

Combining the 8x2.5Gbps version of the CRS310 would give you all the 2.5Gbps ports you could need (and 2 SFP+ ports to boot), and would allow you bond 2-4 of your 1016’s ports if you wanted.

Thank you for that information!

I will look into more and report outcome.

Appreciate your reply!!
Tim

I was finally able to give it a try!

Using MT youtube video was easily able to bond 2- CCR-1016 1Gb ports.

However the RAX120 wasn’t so friendly. Their documenation is confusing at best. To setup internet aggregation it says to use RAX120 internet port and ethernet port1 to connect to cable modem with multiple ports. My CM2000 only has 1 port. Ok so I’m thinking I would use the MT bond ports instead. Next step was to turn on WAN Aggregation ( 1 Gbps + 1 Gbps ) via radio button in RAX120 admin. So I follow instructions, but there is no selection as they indicate. More research leads me to needing to change RAX120 from AP mode to Router mode. Ok that’s no problem EXCEPT that Netgear wants to do the setup for you. So I start down that road and it’s clear they are assuming they will do ALL router functions and there isn’t an option that I could find, to setup router mode manually. So I’m stuck! Would have to continue with their configuration for router function.
As this is being done on a production system and I’m not sure of what I will get if I continue, I stopped.

As this is not my first rodeo, I had current backups for both CCR=1016 and RAX120 just in case!

Of course their factory reset function for the RAX120 is simple enough, engage reset button for at least 6 seconds and wait for reboot. Took a couple of attempts to get that to work. Finally was able restore RAX120 AP configuration and reload MT from backup.

System was back running but still unsure as to what all was setup/required in RAX120 Router mode.

I aquired a refurb RAX120 to be able to play with outside of production system to be able to test with and see what’s next.

It SURE looked simple enough! Murphy law strikes again!

So I won’t be able to further update until my refurb gets here which is next week.

If Netgear was easy as MikroTik, It would up and running by now!!

Thanks again for your information and suggestions!!

Tim

Refurb RAX120 arrived today.

Plan to try LACP bonding with it.

As I want the default CCR-1016 gateway interface ( port 1 ) to be bonded can I just use port 1 & unused port 2 for that?

If yes, I assume I would just remove both from bridge, do the bond and then add bond back into bridge, is this correct?
( I will connect bonded CCR-1016 interface to RAX120 bonded lan ports 1 & 2 )

Thank you