Current documentation for 7.13.2 and capsman

hi, where can I find the corresponding guide for capsman under ROS 7.13.2?
If possible, also a kind of troubleshooting hints for the most common mistakes a user could make…

Thank you!

Right here for wave2:
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/WiFi#WiFi-WiFiCAPsMAN

For legacy wifi:
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/CAPsMAN

thank you.
It doesn’t contain what I need; with the configuration based on the guide my wifi doesn’t come up for longer than 1 minute.
After this time they say goodbye and I cannot bring them back.

CRS 112 with 7.13.2 (I refuse to downgrade, I’ll wait for updates, as long as it takes until it runs stable).
And 2 Accesspoints with a long name I don’t remember, also with 7.13.2

I won’t forget this one minute when I saw popping up the wifi on my iPad. Unfortunately as soon as I made a speedtest, the phone switched back to my productive wifi, I wasn’t even able to run at least one speed test.

In that case you should know the next action already.
(no, rest assured, it’s not reset :laughing: )

Export of your config please so we can check what you did.

no reset???

It’s easily possible that the config contains already too much. After the working config passed away, I configured it the same way as my single access point that I use in my productive network; here is the ap also a capsman at the same time. But the config is the same (regardless of IP, security etc…). Oh, and the other one is not 7.13.2, it’s something earlier…

What do I mean with “I configured it”: Yesterday we ended up with a working basic configuration (routing, DHCP, worked like expected).
Since then I didn’t change anything but the capsman parts. They worked for a minute, then both APs went off, I didn’t see wifi on any devices.
After that I double checked the settings with winbox and configured the same as in my single access point (wapRac) (which is in another network).

That’s all. Only thing I see, is the firmware. I’m quite sure 7.13.2 doesn’t work on my devices. In any other case they would run in the meantime.

# model = CRS112-8P-4S
# serial number = jupdiddldoooooo
/caps-man channel
add band=5ghz-a/n/ac control-channel-width=40mhz-turbo name=channel1
add band=2ghz-b/g/n control-channel-width=5mhz name=channel2
/interface bridge
add admin-mac=48:A9:8A:B5:C3:2A auto-mac=no comment=defconf name=bridge
/caps-man interface
add disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=48:A9:8A:89:E3:C4 master-interface=none name=cap1 radio-mac=48:A9:8A:89:E3:C4 radio-name=48A98A89E3C4
add disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=48:A9:8A:89:E3:C5 master-interface=none name=cap2 radio-mac=48:A9:8A:89:E3:C5 radio-name=48A98A89E3C5
add disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=48:A9:8A:89:E9:56 master-interface=none name=cap3 radio-mac=48:A9:8A:89:E9:56 radio-name=48A98A89E956
add disabled=no l2mtu=1600 mac-address=48:A9:8A:89:E9:57 master-interface=none name=cap4 radio-mac=48:A9:8A:89:E9:57 radio-name=48A98A89E957
/caps-man datapath
add bridge=bridge name=datapath1
/caps-man security
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk encryption=aes-ccm name=security1
/caps-man configuration
add channel.band=5ghz-a/n/ac country=germany datapath=datapath1 datapath.bridge=bridge installation=any mode=ap name=g21-wlan-intern security=security1 ssid=G21-intern
add channel.band=2ghz-b/g/n country=germany datapath=datapath1 datapath.bridge=bridge installation=any name=g21_2.4 security=security1 ssid=G21-2.4
/interface list
add name=LAN
add name=WAN
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] supplicant-identity=MikroTik
/ip hotspot profile
set [ find default=yes ] html-directory=hotspot
/ip pool
add name=dhcp-pool-intern ranges=192.168.21.130-192.168.21.180
add name=vpn ranges=192.168.89.2-192.168.89.255
/ip dhcp-server
add address-pool=dhcp-pool-intern interface=bridge name=dhcp1
/port
set 0 name=serial0
/ppp profile
set *FFFFFFFE local-address=192.168.89.1 remote-address=vpn
/caps-man manager
set ca-certificate=auto certificate=auto enabled=yes
/caps-man provisioning
add action=create-dynamic-enabled master-configuration=g21-wlan-intern
add action=create-dynamic-enabled disabled=yes master-configuration=g21_2.4
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=ether2
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=ether3
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=ether4
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=ether5
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=ether6
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=ether7
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=sfp9
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=sfp10
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=sfp11
add bridge=bridge comment=defconf interface=sfp12
add bridge=bridge interface=ether8
/interface l2tp-server server
set enabled=yes use-ipsec=yes
/interface list member
add interface=bridge list=LAN
add interface=ether1 list=WAN
/ip address
add address=192.168.21.254/24 comment=defconf interface=bridge network=192.168.21.0
/ip cloud
set ddns-enabled=yes
/ip dhcp-client
add interface=ether1
/ip dhcp-server network
add address=192.168.21.0/24 dns-server=10.43.210.11 domain=r403.local gateway=192.168.21.254 netmask=24 ntp-server=192.168.21.254
/ip firewall nat
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat out-interface=ether1
add action=masquerade chain=srcnat comment="masq. vpn traffic" src-address=192.168.89.0/24
/ppp secret
add name=vpn
/system clock
set time-zone-name=Europe/Vienna
/system identity
set name=GW_G21
/system note
set show-at-login=no
/system ntp client
set enabled=yes
/system ntp client servers
add address=10.43.210.254
/caps-man channel
add band=5ghz-a/n/ac control-channel-width=40mhz-turbo name=channel1
add band=2ghz-b/g/n control-channel-width=5mhz name=channel2

If possible, use AC only, no turbo channel. Channel width=20/40/80mhz-Ceee
Similar, 2ghz n-only, channel width=20/40mhz-Ce (if a lot of other 2.4GHz APs are in the area, stick to 20MHz)

Set frequency for both radios manually. Otherwise you do not know what will be taken.
DFS frequencies can take up to 15 minutes before they appear.
Use frequency scanner on wireless tab to check which one is least occupied.
Typical settings:
2.4Ghz: 1/6/11 scheme (=2412/2437/2462 MHz)
5Ghz (if using 80MHz width): ch36/5180MHz - ch52/5260MHz - ch100/5500MHz - ch132/5660MHz

I played around with all possible settings, they make no difference. The config you see, is just one of some hundred I tried.
I tried as well to set the channel etc as a preconfigured setting, or directly configured, doesn’t make a change.

The whole idea is to get a stable working config first, then you can tweak and experiment.
Set the frequency manually so you know what it will be.
Then work from there.

If you look in Winbox / wireless it should show if DFS time-out is active.

ok.. but most of what you write is just not there to configure… I have much less to chose.
Eg. you talk about

no turbo channel. Channel width=20/40/80mhz-Ceee

that’s not there. I have 5-10-20 in 5 GHz
In 2Ghz I have 5-10-20-40t

ceee and those things are not there.

Ah yes, you’re going via capsman.

Then it should be extension Ce for 2.4Ghz, Ceee for 5Ghz.
Width shouldn’t be set then (leave unselected)

Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t experiment, I tried to get a fu***g config that my APs finally are ready to use.
Mikrotik, could you please advertise those things with “caution, they don’t do the most of what can be configured, they are dumb as hell, only one of 10.000 combinations will work, and it’s on you as a customer to successfully graduate as a physics+electronic+IT expert to get the knowledge about wifi. Just configure 5 GHz and hope you will see something, is not the way we want to go…”

It’s actually pretty easy: configure what’s necessary and keep defaults where possible. Forget that channel alignment stuff and channel width, fixed channel frequency and so on. Not necessary for get it up and running.

On frequency I highly disagree.
Most problems are with wrong frequencies being selected in high interference areas or even DFS range with constant disconnects because of the wait time.

Start with default, yes.
Set frequency.
Then tweak / optimize.

I can set what I want, there’s no CAP interface.
And nothing happens.
Either something is missing, or 7.13.2 is really not running.
I have a deadline. This evening. Either I get this stuff running (stable, reliable), or I’ll throw it into the recycle bin.
Just to be on the safe side, I already ordered a set of access point from HP. They offer a simple installer, even for IOS, it’s plug and play. A friend of me tried it and was up and running in 10 minutes. Without an issue ever.
On the other side an IT systems engineer that struggles half a year to learn how to get an access point up and running.
Best of all: I HAVE one AP up and running, and exactly the same config (IPs etc corrected) doesn’t work for the second set of equipment.

I don’t get it :confused:

and what IS necessary?
And please, if possible, post a link to the guide that explains what is necessary. I don’t want to “only” refer on personal experience, though (of course) I appreciate that.

https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1409149

“Read” the screenshots of the “Simple setup of a CAPsMAN system” section.

Thanks. I’m here because that is not enough to get it up and running.
I’m at troubleshooting for over a week now, what is missing in the guide.

I don’t find the place where it tells me what to do, when there are no CAP interfaces listet :unamused:

Please follow the disposal guidelines of your local waste disposal authority.

I don’t see anything missing in this guide. It shows how to create a capsman configuration, create the provisioning rules and enable capsman service (capsman manager). What are you having problems with? CAPs not beeing provisioned?

yes, we have a centralized disposal system for electronic devices. A lot of stuff has its end here - mostly 20 year old printer etc. :wink: