Ok MK, in New Zealand we’ve just started receiving ROS HW with 7.18 installed, and this came with the unbelievable brick wall of a monumental feature on how to seriously disrupt the workflow and ultimately instill disbelief and make grown men cry for those of us who work in the WISP industry and ins…

[image] normis: Devices that are upgraded, stay working with all features. Just reading the changelogs shows that this statement is clearly incorrect. And in advanced mode these items are disabled (and it is also written in the changelog that these entries, which previously did not exist, a…

[image] normis: So we are discussing new devices and how to improve deployment flow. The future concern is what if you introduce new device-mode's. Basically, there is not some "best pratice", nor knowledge of how future device-mode additions be handled. [image] normis: Devices that are…

[image] Device-Mode Enabled on Majority of Newly Received Routers – Causing Major Deployment Delays General rofl rofl rofl rofl that scene is perfect. If you got the impression that I wasn’t updating / controlling the RouterOS version at the same time as app…

[image] normis: One thing seems to be incorrectly reported from time to time. Devices that are upgraded, stay working with all features. Nothing is breaking upon upgrade. No, no, it's always been reported correctly. You lose features with the upgrade, and it's absolutely false that the user…

Well what is worrying (in your scenario) is that there already are device-mode settings that are apparently set to “yes” on all devices (advanced, basic and home). These are: pp2p, l2tp, ipsec, smb, zerotier. What is the purpose of those? Were they too hastily introduced based on observed scenari…

available modes are: advanced basic home rose and details for every mode: [image] Default device-mode "modes" exhaustive list General Various modes, included new undocumented ROSE on 7.19.4 defaults for ROSE mode: (is like ADVANCED + container) …

Just to seperate problems here... I see three theme: out-of-box provision to set needed device-mode is "hard" and/or manual e.g. lack of netinstall/branding/flashfig control of device-mode How to allow device-mode changes in field "safely" and without requiring the power-cycle e.g. lack of s…

Well, these device-mode flags were added in the first beta release of the feature, and I think it was because the scenario at that time was “hackers have somehow got access to the device and to secure continued access they set up a VPN to a control server”. I think that is why several VPN technique…

@normis , minor issue in help doc on device-mode. It says: Available device-mode modes There are three device modes available for configuration (mode=advanced is default one) Beyond not mentioning mode=rose, "mode=advanced is default" in sentance is wrong, as it varies by hardware. The table b…

[image] normis: Brian, to be able to help you, we must be able to understand your goals. This is just common sense. Normis, I don’t know if it’s possible to be any more clear with my goals, it seems every other concerned person on the forum understands them except MikroTik staff, and many of …

Device Mode hell

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available modes are: advanced basic home rose

and details for every mode: