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I don’t use Discord (too chaotic for me, don’t use any other social channel either for the same reason) so I can not comment on what is being said there.
I totally agree with your statement but are there concrete facts to support these claims ? Then this can be addressed.

For the ways used, not for himself of no longer being a moderator, if it wasn’t clear yet.

I just enter Discord and clearly see “same toxic reply”, if not more toxic, also there…

From Discord: If you’re going to be an asshole who just wants to aggravate the moderators, maybe just go away?

https://discord.com/channels/936294190948687922/936294190948687929/1128702453412532274

генаНА

12/07/2023 16:59
Hello

The question may not be very relevant)

I am a new user on the forum and made a post publication, he went to moderation.

What is the average waiting time for moderation?
Where will the notification come about that the post has passed moderation or not, and if it has not passed, then somewhere will information be indicated why the post has not passed moderation?


Please do not judge strictly if I applied to the wrong place > :slightly_smiling_face:


SkyHawk

12/07/2023 17:00
You’re not the first person I’ve seen pop into a new server and start asking such things. Is this some kind of bizarro-land bot behavior?
If you’re going to be an asshole who just wants to aggravate the moderators, maybe just go away?

генаНА

12/07/2023 17:07
Hmm, for some reason I thought that only representatives of the CIS community could be toxic, but it turns out that they are not.

I apologize if I hurt anyone’s feelings by posting my question here.

I’ll just sit and wait…

I did not know MT was in the business of getting people mad.
I think this forum is where one could get help. This discussion and the way MT handled the issue harmed the forum.

What discussion are you talking about?
I am talking about how volunteer moderators are bullying new members. Some of them got their moderator status removed.
This is a bad move?

I’m not concerned about who got bullied or who got banned.
The only thing I’m talking about is the documents that are no longer available because of this discussion.

Which documents?

He was referring to all the documentation and guides made by @Anav, which were often always better than the MikroTik documentation.

From @normis, post #160 on current topic.

I’m not involved this time, but is yet another moderator war against quotas starting? (just for 4 more lines on post…)
http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/mikrotik-rack-mounted-devices-visio-stencils/108138/1
Strangely enough, all moderators sooner or later start doing it, like on the past me and @BartoszP

Quoting shoold to be used limited, especially when you are first responder to that specific post. Then even do not qoute and just reply directly.

I’m perfectly agree with you,
but the only rule in this regard is not harass people about it…

@Normis had written that way because is already happened on the past various times:
Some new users who didn’t care about quoting correctly had complained about @BartoszP because he was trying to politely teach them how to do it correctly.

I might be wrong, but I think @Anav foremost wants MikroTik to engage much more in practical matters regarding the forum on order to create better conditions to eliminate structural problems that unnecessarily often result in “frustrating” comments. I agree with many of these suggestions:

https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=1049520#p1049520

Everyone has their agenda. All I know is what usually brought me here is no longer here, which is not in the best interest of anyone.

Try web.archive.org ..

Larsa, I could kiss you but for fear of catching something dreadful, I will not. :slight_smile:
Yes, frustration and the like is but a symptom of not having enough process and structure at the beginning of a posters experience here.
I am trying to address root causes and not focus on symptoms.
I listed all the benefits of having a bit of discpline in posting…
All I am asking for is an attempt to make the forum better, and to give the MODs the ability to make some changes to that end.
Getting mired down in minutia, such as tone or quoting, is missing the boat…
Setting a proper example at the beginning of a posters experience will reap many benefits for all.

Some occasional one-time sailors who jumped into a new eye-catching boat starts to rock that boat as experienced sailors, who volunteered to pass people safe from one coast to another, didn’t give them a hand dressed with a velvet glove but even dared to instruct them that the journey needs some better skills and equipment than using child’s lifebelt as the journey could abound in storms, rocks but not the expected marmaids. And they get higher priority and attention than safety.

Why were @anav’s guide threads deleted?

New User Pathway To Config Success https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=906567
New User Posting For Assistance https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=908118#p908118

Those were really useful threads with pointers to other relevant material.

It’s been a while since I have been here, but it seems that a lot of useful info was deleted when those threads were deleted.

In short:

There was topic where some of the new members complained about toxic environment on the forum and some senior members were called out.

the author of those posts, anav, decided to edit his posts and remove all the information, the reason for complete deletion might be tied to this.
Here, some older version of those threads: http://web.archive.org/web/20231002224436/https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=906567
http://web.archive.org/web/20240115025942/https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=908118#p908118
Print them, frame them. It’ll last longer. :unamused:

I would be interested in helping out with this.