Hi all,
I was wondering if any of you had personal experience with using the MikroTik GPON ONU module (product code SFPONU). Specifically any experience using it with Google Fiber (if that’s possible). I’ll be getting Google Fiber in my area soon and would love to know if I can use the GPON ONU module with a MikroTik CCR1072-1G-8S+ router to connect to Google Fiber instead of the standard Google Fiber “Fiber Jack” and Network Box.
Any info would be much appreciated.
Has anyone here had experience with the GPON ONU at all? Even with a different fiber provider than Google Fiber?
The issue with the gpon onu on different providers networks lays with the providers.
Gpon provisioning is done on the olt. The ONT works with the olt to handle encryption and upstream time slots.
Long story short, you can only use the gpon onu if the provider lets you. No provider with a standard roll-out plan will let you use any ONT that isn’t approved and managed by them.
So, and please excuse my ignorance, are there any fiber providers out there at all that would let a person use the MikroTik GPON ONU?
If not, then what could a person use it for? Are there any uses for the GPON ONU other than connecting to a fiber provider/ISP’s network?
Thanks
I assume that there is a UTP cable coming out of the network box? So that box can be either:
If it is 1: what is the problem to use a SFP-UTP module? That is is you really want to use the SFP module in your CCR.
I know, it would be nice of you can connect directly the fibre into the SFP, but this will also work. Also it will give you 1 Gbit hardware connection.
If it is nr. 2: Then make sure that your network is in the same subnet as the mini router. The mini router will see only one device, and the CCR will route everything to the default gateway, without doing NAT.
Thanks but that doesn’t answer my question. I’m asking what are the possible uses for MikroTik’s “GPON ONU” product. The product at this link:
On the page linked above, the product description says:
The GPON module allows any RouterBOARD device to be used for Fiber to Home installations without any special modems or software. A plug and play solution means you simply plug it into your device, and no special configuration is needed. It is supported by all our SFP products, with any RouterOS version - all configuration will be done on the ISP side.
The GPON ONU integrates GPON OMCI Stack and is fully compliant with ITU-T G.984 standards. The ONU is in a standardized MSA SFP form-factor and is designed to simply plug into a standard SFP port in your router.
The product provides a pluggable GPON ONU interface for networking equipment with an uplink SFP receptacle enabling these devices to be deployed in GPON networks for FTTx, business services, and wireless backhaul applications.
So if the MikroTik GPON ONU actually can’t be used like is stated in the product description, why? Are are there any other uses for the MikroTik GPON ONU that aren’t mentioned in the product description?
Thanks
Well, any company that wants to deploy GPON could use Mikrotik routers as their CPE component with this SFP module. It’s very useful for that scenario. Bringing your own ONT (in this case, the ONT is in an SFP form factor, but from the ISP’s point of view, it’s just another ONT) is the same thing as providing your own cable modem or DSL modem. If the ISP allows you to do this, then there should be no problem. If not, then there’s no benefit to an end user. If you had cablemodem and the provider didn’t allow you to install your own cablemodem, this would be the same situation.
I wish Google fiber (or ANY competition for that matter) would arrive in my city, as Comcast rules the roost here, and I hate them so much. AT&T U-Verse is not a viable alternative - it costs the same for much less performance. Both have data caps. (time to hit submit before this turns into a rant)
You just forget that some customers ARE ISPs and can deploy them as their CPE solution. It is not exactly a product aimed at individual home users.
at&t, comcast, warner, google “fiber” is basically different sides of same Evil.
which another point to left GPON/GEPON nonsense unsupported.
Did anyone ever determine if this feature is possible? I have a new L2/3 managed switch coming with SFP ports that I’d like to just pop my fiber line into. Can we call an tell GF of our new ONU serial or maybe spoof it like mac’s?
Possible? Sure. Likely? No.
As stated earlier, the timing issues and other factors involved with authorizing GPON subscribers means having an OLT management software that can talk to compatible ONT’s. You push the software to the ONT and set all the control settings via the OLT. If voice is involved, sometime the ONT may even control some of the voice features in a SIP scenario, which complicates it even more(but we’re probably talking data only here obviously).
The issue is you WANT your management software to manage those ONT’s. I know Calix offers a Calix SFP/ONT device. Not aware of any others. But that would allow me to offer Calix ONT’s and the occasional SFP/ONU as necessary. I doubt the Mikrotik units are compatible with Calix or Alcatel or other management systems. They could be deployed, but most large providers wouldn’t want to deploy something they can’t manage.
So it has a relatively narrow use case from an ISP provider point of view. However, a small provider may use them or other special case scenarios where someone has enough customers to justify their use. What’s more likely is to simply offer an ONT on site that has an SFP port in it(more likely for 10Gig customer on GEPON or similar where you need more bandwidth than you’d get off 1Gb ethernet or avoid the head/costs of 10Gb ethernet).