hAP ac² - more RAM than in HW specification

I observed on my international version, EU plug hAP ac² that it reports more RAM than described in product specification, product brochure and block diagram. In all documentation 128 MB is mentioned, however “/system resource print” shows 256 MB:

[admin@MikroTik] > /system resource print 
                   uptime: 41m6s
                  version: 6.40.5 (stable)
               build-time: Oct/31/2017 13:05:15
         factory-software: 6.40.5
              free-memory: 207.7MiB
             total-memory: 233.4MiB
                      cpu: ARMv7
                cpu-count: 4
            cpu-frequency: 716MHz
                 cpu-load: 1%
           free-hdd-space: 4092.0KiB
          total-hdd-space: 15.3MiB
  write-sect-since-reboot: 92
         write-sect-total: 92
               bad-blocks: 0%
        architecture-name: arm
               board-name: hAP ac^2
                 platform: MikroTik

Are there multiple HW revisions on the market? Not that I would need more than 128 MB memory for my SOHO routing requirements, but I am still interested. Maybe it would worth to update documentation.

Thanks.

started to get interesting, just need to increase the flash too.

As I undestand it, sometimes you may get lucky and receive a little more than what’s in specification. Not that double RAM helps much, even 128MB is probably more than what this device will ever need. I wouldn’t dare to say the same about flash. But hey, it’s free, no need to complain. :slight_smile:

Just change specifications from “Size of RAM: 128 MB” to “Size of RAM: at least 128 MB”. :slight_smile:

Rather not. Everyone would start to ask what does it mean and what is the probability distribution of each variant…

Add a little lottery to marketing … Who will be lucky, will get more RAM. Hurry to buy!!!

It works so for ages. Only newcomers are realising it now…

But there is only 233.4MiBs. In my RB750Gr3 all 256.0 MiBs is written. Where are the last 23 MiBs?

Where is it written that you should have 256M of RAM? You got a 233Mb chip, live with it :laughing:

What a fortune!

Hmm… This will make me unhappy… 233 is not so beautiful as 256… :slight_smile:

Have you heard about gift horse? :slight_smile:

I looks the same in my version of hAP ac²

Yes, and also about her teeth. But. But.
Ah, of course, i will live with this. I already bought hAP ac². I’m wait it from EuroDK. May be i will more lucky and my hAP ac² will have a SD-card slot or something else??? :slight_smile:

Mine hAP ac2 also have 233mb of ram. Also, I noticed that it has IPQ4019 SoC. Awesome! What SoC do you have?

How did you checked that? Did you disassembled your unit? I could only check with command “/system resource irq print”, and there I see 2 entries with “ipq4019_ahb” which indicates that it is IPQ-4019 as you said, however the specification on Qualcomm site says 1 GB RAM for 4019, and 256 GB RAM for 4018. So hard to says without disassembling the unit, but one guy disassembled it, and on his picture the SoC is clearly 4018. And one of his screenshot in the article also shows 233 MB RAM.

Edit: Ok, I see in Wireless/WiFi Interfaces, under the Type field that it is IPQ4019. However I still believe just the driver is named like 4019, the SoC itself is IPQ-4018.

Can you send me screen from System > Resources ?

Now I want to dissamble my ac2 :smiley:
This may be not true, however there are quite a few IPQ4019 devices with 256MB ram out there. I believe 256MB - IPQ4018/1GB - IPQ4019 is maximum amount of RAM.
https://i.imgur.com/v8U1QUk.png

It’s strange, but I see only two antennas, and the block diagram shows 4 antennas. For the first time I see that Mikrotik would use dual-band combined antennas. How do the transmitters not jam the receivers of the other range, while maintaining a decent sensitivity?

Translated by Google translator.

Labels on the circuit board says “2G CH0 + 5G CH1” … the other is obscured by antenna itself, but I guess print would be similar (but with swapped chains).

The frequency of two WiFi bands are (radio wise) far away from each other with plenty of other occupied bands in between so that filters (both in TX and RX branches) can do very decent job. TX needs decent band-pass filter not to emit energy outside of ISM band (that would be illegal). RX needs band-pass filter as well to reject some adjacent-band interference which might lower usable sensitivity. Further more, RX needs channel-pass filter and this one is usually implemented in DSP software (or else channel switching would be a hard thing to do). Decent band-pass filter would have out-of-band attenuation of at least 40dB. Given that there are two band-pass filters in play (e.g. TX filter on 2G and RX filter on 5G), overall out-of-band attenuation inside single device should be at least 80dB … if TX power is +20dB, that would mean -60dB at input of RX pre-amplifier. Which is not good, but not useless either … given the nature of OFDM being used for recent WiFi standards where sensitivity is less of an issue than with other (legacy) technologies.