hEX S is not a bad device and it will be able to run at 200/200 even with NAT and complex firewall.
Maybe even twice as much or more.
But it costs the same as hAP ac2 and hAP ac2 will outperform it at the factor of 2 in identical conditions.
Additionally hAP ac2 has a better switch chip and decent wifi.
So if you don’t need specific features of hEX S (such as SFP cage, PoE-out or microSD card slot) hAP ac2 is just a better choice.
Well since sfp was of my needs at the first place i was looking on hAP ac instead of using OLT device,
When I understood that hAP ac is out of the game
i was thinking of using hEX s with cAP ac or hAP ac^2 for better flexibility…so here i am asking for ideas from people who knows 
The HAPAC2 is more powerful than the hex, plus has reasonable wifi for your small space and will enable future growth to 1gig down in the future!!
You should get 200-300 s down on 5ghz with it, and about 50-100Mpbs on 2.4ghz.
Are you sure that the heX s won’t handle 1000/100? I have seen people gets it on screenshot on amazon.
Using default config with fasttrack enabled - it will.
Ok and what about having better wifi with hAP ac? Will it be better with hAP ac with combination of hEX s?
hAP ac with it’s tripple-chain wireless radios can give 50% higher throughput … with clients that support (at least) 3 chains. Many (possibly most) clients support 2 chains and in this case hAP ac in optimal radio conditions doesn’t gain anything (compared to hAP ac2). In sub-optimal radio conditions it may gain slightly due to possibility of selecting better oriented antennae for 2-chain operation.
One thing to consider: wifi does push device’s CPU and single device doing both routing/firewalling and wifi might end up in CPU overload condition thus limiting achievable throughput, while it might perform quite better when only doing one task. In this case combination of hEx+hAP ac might actually do better than “lone” hAP ac2 …
The HAPAC2 kicks the hex’s ass when it comes to throughput. NO matter what XVO says, the hex will not service a 1gig down connection.
Why, because I have two of them and neither could even come close.
If he does have one and he can reach 1gig its because his firewall ruleset looks like this.
ip firewall
end of file.
Do it in steps.
A. BUY hapac2, check WIFI, if still to weak at certain locations then dont bother with a hex, add the existing hapac to the far end.
B. If the wifi of the hapac is a problem, cannot get it to work, then perhaps the unit is defective in which case get a second hapac2 and stick the second one at the far location assuming a wired connection.
I just don’t understand the lack of logic in all these ‘experts’ (эксперты, eksperci, experti. eksperti, esperti, experten, expertos)
That what exacly my way of thinking to put hex s as rhe main router ans second device just as a wifi. The problem starts and ends with the way those devices will be in 1 year from now when wifi6 will be more mainstream. That’s the reason i wanted device between one device for routing and one for wifi plus benefits of having poe and sfp available.
From what i understand i cannot count on better performance of hap ac from hex s from routing and global performance.
Since I already have hex s on delivery i need to decide if i should add either hap ac or hap ac^2 to the order. Or maybe i should take hex s as the main router only and use meraki for wifi for the short time.. i really wanted to be fully mikrotik eployment but i got some different recommendations that leads me to buy a product that i wasn’t 100 percent sure about.
At first place i though that hAP ac will do everything in one box but then i realized that it wont be sufficient , i want a device for yeats not for 1 year lifetime.
Your comments could help me to decide if i return the hex s or taking another unit that will be suitable for future 1gig upgrade…
I cant remember the default config on the hEX, if it is “switched or not”, but will definitely route 1Gb/s depending on your config.
Geez, I need to add another so called ‘experts’ to the list (ochwepheshe)
Take your Hex 1GIG and politely shove it.
Hmmmm, maybe you should add one more to the list (self-opinionated)
Wow.
Don’t you worry Shy, we banter back and forth all the time. CZFAN is cool and one of handle full of experts here that really know their stuff.
As to opinionated, I certainly am LOL, otherwise who else would provide some accountability to the MT elites? but seriously, I live in the real world of real ISPs and have played with two HEXES and an RB450Gx4 that is rated higher than the HEX and lower then the Hapac2.
Guess what in the real world my RB450Gx4 could get into the low 900 range but never got to 980 in any tests, believe I achieved 960ish or so with few rules.
Once loaded with many rules it went down to between 600-700.
These are tests within the ISP domain, once reaching real world sites they diminish further.
Truth be told, I am a cheap bastad so I wouldnt recommend spending a penny more than you have to, but I dont want to see someone waste their money when their expectations are not realized.
I got the RB because the HEX was way worse.
So opinionated maybe, but based on my experience. So its not from thin air.
Go ahead Shy, get the HEX, but first get a notarized piece of paper from CZFAN and XVO that you will achieve 1gig speed with default rule set plus maybe 5 extra rules.
The paper should state that if you are unable to achieve 1gig, they will send you $1000US dollars as payment of apology and shame.
Lets see if they put their money where their mouths are… somehow I dont think the non-accountable MT elites have the guts.
When I get this badboy fired up I will let you know my speed test results…
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Thats a nice stuff!! I am low on budget so i prefer to buy exactly what is needed to my setup. I want to thank you all for that thread even though i was just shocked earlier.
I will update once i will get the hex s i hope that he will do the magic and will handle the traffic on 200/200 easily. About atttaching AP device to it i still looking for my best option if its hAP or hAP ac^2 i still dont have any idea…
Can some1 confirm If on wifi hAP ac gives max of 500mb and hAP ac^2 is up to 300mb ?
Also overal load hAP ac could manage?
Yes the hex will easily handle 200/200 traffic, it will work well into the 600 range as well if you increase your service to 500 down for example.
@XVO, are you game for the @anav challenge?
If me and @XVO proves 1Gb/s routing on hex(s), @anav will give us (CZFan & XVO) 1000 US$
Oh jeez!
Just one evening I’m not paying attention to the forum, and that’s exactly the evening, when @anav gone wild after some bad whiskey!
I don’t have an 1gig uplink, and the hEX i have access to is currently “in production”.
But for 1000$ I think I can figure something out…
Btw is it 1000$ each, or we need to split?
And by the way, @anav, congrats on the CCR.
I guess we are now “router buddies” 
Although strictly speaking I have an RM version.