Help me beat the competitor

hi guys,

i plan to beat RADWIN products using Mikrotik based solutions. I need to do it for E1/T1 areas and all other fields where RADWIN has its presence too.

all inputs are welcome.

**** LONG LIVE MIKROTIK ****

What exactly are you looking for?

You can beat the price and features of radwin with MT.
But you cant beat the wireless quality/performance.
Radwin 2000c is settled in between MT and Moto PTP-600
regarding price and performance.

in what way do you think radwin is better, ste?

They are better for PTP-Backhaullinks. We’re using Radwin2000c on some links.

  1. ETSI 5,8GHz ETSI EN 302 502 compliant
    So I am allowed to use it with 36db.
    In 5,4 I am allowed to use it with 30db.
    MT is allowed with 27db in 5,4 (no ATPC)
    and with 24db in 5,8 (not sure the DFS patterns are
    accurate).

  2. The predicted performance is the real performance
    even with other gear in same band nearby. So it seems
    to have a more robust wireless interface. They have a sync
    mechanism to improve on fully loaded towers.

  3. real 100MBit/s Fullduplex.

  4. Quality: Handle on top, metal feed-through, cooling ribs

  1. OK, ATPC support
  2. Depends on who makes the predictions, not a real argument
  3. Easy, many customer have that. In MUM USA 2010 we showed more than 100Mbit fullduplex
  4. See our MFM page, we only make the PCB board, you choose your own outdoor box and antennas
    nv2_TCP_both.PNG
  1. Is critical for me. As we use 5,4 to connect customers I want to use another band for
    backhaul. So we use licensed or 5,8 wherever it’s affordable.
  2. I’m using their HTML-Based Linkcalculation-Tool. It matches with reality.
  3. Yes. I see the improvements. You’re on the way but you’re not there at the moment.
    NV2 and the OS it runs on is beta and it has some quirks. I test every version and get
    mixed results so I do not dare to use it in production yet. But even if it’s perfect I cant
    do long backhauls due to the limited power I am allowed to use. I will be happy with NV2
    for our APs.

STE,

Would you mind shooting me an email outside this forum please. I would like to ask you a few questions regarding our post here.

Thanks scott at flhsi dot com

We use MT, Alvarion, Trango, UBNT, Solectek, and Radwin.

The MT interface is nicer than radwin. Radwin has a nasty windows program you use to configure stuff. I like the cross platform configuration MT offers.

Radwin is indeed quality hardware. No question.

Radwin also does synchronization, MT doesn’t, nor do the others.

Radwin does 5.4 FCC as well. Alvarion is pretty much the only other one we use that can do that, though trango had some gear that would at one point.

We buy radwin because it’s fast and does 5.4. Not many choices for 5.4. We’ve got real crowded 5.8 here and use 5.4 for backhaul stuff (radwin) and shorter distance ptmp (Alvarion).

So unless you are legally doing 5.4, you’re not building something that I consider “beating” Radwin.

hey ‘JP’ thanx for that input.

we are looking at ISM band only. License Exempt.

I think saintofinternet is from India, FCC doesn’t apply there.

you said it right normis FCC does not apply here but…but…but…

we have WPC (Wireless Planning Commission) here which governs the same issues as handled by FCC in the US

Signal strength -36 LOLOL

want to integrate something like this in Mikrotik…

• WL1000-IDUR-E1
• WL1000-IDUR-T1

all inputs appreciated…

What hardware setup are you using to get that results?
Is it possible to get those results with RB433 cards at each site?

My rb450g topped out at 200mbits tcp performance over gig-e.

I would imagine you would want to use at least an rb433AH to get 100mbit full duplex over wireless. the 433vanilla is probably too slow.

derr12, don’t run the test from the RB itself, run it from powerful x86 routers at each side of the RB. This way the TCP termination would be handled by the x86 (or more powerful RB) and the test subject will be tested for routing and forwarding performance. In case of Layer 2 bridge - the throughput should be even more.