Help to connect UDP device - Belkin Net USB-HUB

RouterOS Beginner Basics
1

Hello.
I have RB493G router. And I cannot make the USB NetHub (http://en-us-support.belkin.com/app/product/detail/p/4780) working. I suppose this HUB needs TCP and UDP to connect to clients. It uses port 19540 to connect. The client uses software to use the device, connected to HUB. For instance my client has address 192.168.130.54/24, router has 192.168.130.1/24 and NET HUB has 192.168.130.96/24.

When I run the Net HUB software on the client it sends some traffic like
UDP Src 192.168.130.54:49995 Dst 255.255.255.255:19540
to find the HUB.

And the HUB sends answer like
UDP Src 192.168.130.96:19540 Dst 192.168.130.1:49995.

That’s why I cannot see the HUB - Mikrotik router redirects HUB packets to itself. To avoid this I included the firewall NAT rule:

0 ;;; Belkin Net HUB
chain=dstnat action=dst-nat to-addresses=192.168.130.54 protocol=udp src-address=192.168.130.96 src-port=19540
dst-limit=100000,5,dst-address/1m40s
Now I can see devices, connected to Net HUB. But I cannot connect to it.

Te HUB help requires to set firewall rules on the client:

Name: NUHCC (Out)
TCP or UDP: TCP
Port Range: 19540 to 19540
For Connections: Outbound [remote ports]
Scope: Internet

Name: NUHCC(IN)
TCP or UDP: UDP
Port Range: 19540 to 19540
For Connections: Inbound [local ports]
Scope: Internet

If I switch off the Connection Tracking function, then HUB works good. But many other router functions also are stopped.
Help me, please. What should I do to make this HUB working?

2

Ответит кто нибудь???

Мало того, что техподдержка не отвечает, так ещё:
Этот роутер уже заеб… конкретно. Заеб… сплошные глюки. Мало того, что не пропускает соединения с paypal.com так теперь ещё в версии 5.2 невозмозможно соединиться с адресами *.dyndns.org, программа Microsoft OneNote перестала синхронизироваться, перестали работать усройства на UDP-протоколе.

Что же это за дерьмо??? Когда Вы собираетесь всё это исправить??? И не пытайтесь удвлят этот пост - я вас всё равно достану. Я заплатил 700 долларов за пару роутеров и теперь ни одним не могу пользоваться!!!

3

we have no information about any of the things you mention in the second post. this must be a coincidence or a configuration issue. did you send a supout.rif file to support?

we have no idea what this belkin device is, so we need more information

4

Let this Belkin alone and help to reach the *paypal.com and *.dyndns.org addresses.
Which rule should I use to resolve this problem?

5

You have given us zero information about these problems. Start by describing what is wrong

6

I cannot open sites:

www.paypal.com
*.dyndns.org

7

what is your RouterOS config? what is the error? show us the screenshots of the problem!

8

The Belkin USB nethub is a USB-HUB-device that is connected to the LAN network. The USB devices (flash drives, printers, scanners) are connected to this HUB hardware. Each user can connect to HUB via LAN and use connected to HUB USB devices like it was connected to user’s computer. (USB - устройства воткнуты в ХАБ, ХАБ воткнут в сеть. Пользователь подключается к хабу, видит подключенные к нему устройства и пользуется этими устройствами через сеть, как будто они подключены через USB его компьютера)

Also look, please at the normal communication of Belkin device (address 192.168.200.67) and client (192.168.200.54):

1 20:28:15 27/04/11 1.3981052 NetmonFilter NetmonFilter:Updated Capture Filter: None
2 20:28:15 27/04/11 1.3981052 NetworkInfoEx NetworkInfoEx:Network info for , Network Adapter Count = 1
3 20:28:15 27/04/11 1.3981052 [001EC1 A40643 [00-1E-C1-A4-06-43]] [0180C2 000000 [01-80-C2-00-00-00]] SPANTreeBPDU SPANTreeBPDU
4 20:28:15 27/04/11 1.5524857 FE80:0:0:0:D8CB:2FF:FEA8:14FB FF02:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 ICMPv6 ICMPv6:Router Advertisement {IPv6:1}
5 20:28:16 27/04/11 2.6436754 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51906, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:3, IPv4:2}
6 20:28:16 27/04/11 2.6439024 192.168.200.54 255.255.255.255 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51907, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:5, IPv4:4}
7 20:28:17 27/04/11 2.7643199 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51906, Length = 174 {UDP:3, IPv4:2}
8 20:28:17 27/04/11 2.7700622 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51908, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:6, IPv4:2}
9 20:28:17 27/04/11 2.9143256 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51907, Length = 174 {UDP:7, IPv4:2}
10 20:28:17 27/04/11 2.9144705 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51908, Length = 79 {UDP:6, IPv4:2}
11 20:28:17 27/04/11 2.9149809 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51908, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:6, IPv4:2}
12 20:28:17 27/04/11 2.9152803 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51908, Length = 16 {UDP:6, IPv4:2}
13 20:28:17 27/04/11 3.3973085 [001EC1 A40643 [00-1E-C1-A4-06-43]] [0180C2 000000 [01-80-C2-00-00-00]] SPANTreeBPDU SPANTreeBPDU
14 20:28:17 27/04/11 3.4908968 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51909, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:8, IPv4:2}
15 20:28:17 27/04/11 3.4912196 192.168.200.54 255.255.255.255 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51910, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:9, IPv4:4}
16 20:28:17 27/04/11 3.6243229 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51909, Length = 174 {UDP:8, IPv4:2}
17 20:28:17 27/04/11 3.6294242 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51911, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:10, IPv4:2}
18 20:28:17 27/04/11 3.7243294 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51910, Length = 174 {UDP:11, IPv4:2}
19 20:28:17 27/04/11 3.7244691 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51911, Length = 79 {UDP:10, IPv4:2}
20 20:28:17 27/04/11 3.7246733 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51911, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:10, IPv4:2}
21 20:28:17 27/04/11 3.7249818 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51911, Length = 16 {UDP:10, IPv4:2}
22 20:28:18 27/04/11 4.2013309 192.168.200.54 255.255.255.255 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51910, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:9, IPv4:4}
23 20:28:18 27/04/11 4.2843237 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51910, Length = 174 {UDP:11, IPv4:2}
24 20:28:19 27/04/11 4.8349309 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51912, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:12, IPv4:2}
25 20:28:19 27/04/11 4.8352571 192.168.200.54 255.255.255.255 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51913, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:13, IPv4:4}
26 20:28:19 27/04/11 4.9243389 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51912, Length = 174 {UDP:12, IPv4:2}
27 20:28:19 27/04/11 4.9295863 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51914, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:14, IPv4:2}
28 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.0742951 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51913, Length = 174 {UDP:15, IPv4:2}
29 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.0744628 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51914, Length = 79 {UDP:14, IPv4:2}
30 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.0746424 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51914, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:14, IPv4:2}
31 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.0749395 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51914, Length = 16 {UDP:14, IPv4:2}
32 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.3438213 192.168.200.153 192.168.200.61 TCP TCP:Flags=…A…, SrcPort=NETBIOS Session Service(139), DstPort=1168, PayloadLen=0, Seq=3042146061, Ack=3820605381, Win=2920 {TCP:17, IPv4:16}
33 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.3439102 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.153 ICMP ICMP:Redirect Message {IPv4:18}
34 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.3965129 [001EC1 A40643 [00-1E-C1-A4-06-43]] [0180C2 000000 [01-80-C2-00-00-00]] SPANTreeBPDU SPANTreeBPDU
35 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.4828893 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51915, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:19, IPv4:2}
36 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.4831088 192.168.200.54 255.255.255.255 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51916, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:20, IPv4:4}
37 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.5643114 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51915, Length = 174 {UDP:19, IPv4:2}
38 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.5725945 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51917, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:21, IPv4:2}
39 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.6043259 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51916, Length = 174 {UDP:22, IPv4:2}
40 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.6044611 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51917, Length = 79 {UDP:21, IPv4:2}
41 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.6046692 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51917, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:21, IPv4:2}
42 20:28:19 27/04/11 5.6049874 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51917, Length = 16 {UDP:21, IPv4:2}
43 20:28:20 27/04/11 6.1468309 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51918, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:23, IPv4:2}
44 20:28:20 27/04/11 6.1471057 192.168.200.54 255.255.255.255 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51919, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:24, IPv4:4}
45 20:28:20 27/04/11 6.1643157 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51918, Length = 174 {UDP:23, IPv4:2}
46 20:28:20 27/04/11 6.1696913 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51920, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
47 20:28:20 27/04/11 6.2543225 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51919, Length = 174 {UDP:26, IPv4:2}
48 20:28:20 27/04/11 6.2544617 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51920, Length = 79 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
49 20:28:20 27/04/11 6.2546738 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51920, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
50 20:28:20 27/04/11 6.2549750 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51920, Length = 16 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
51 20:28:21 27/04/11 7.0167456 sidebar.exe 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.1 HTTP HTTP:Request, GET http://export.yandex.ru/bar/reginfo.xml, Query:rnd=0.533463697271684&region=213 {HTTP:29, TCP:28, IPv4:27}
52 20:28:21 27/04/11 7.0177859 sidebar.exe 192.168.200.1 192.168.200.54 TCP TCP:Flags=…A…, SrcPort=3128, DstPort=61204, PayloadLen=0, Seq=1265826279, Ack=2484008438, Win=4570 {TCP:28, IPv4:27}
53 20:28:21 27/04/11 7.3484390 sidebar.exe 192.168.200.1 192.168.200.54 HTTP HTTP:Response, HTTP/1.0, Status: Ok, URL: http://export.yandex.ru/bar/reginfo.xml {HTTP:29, TCP:28, IPv4:27}
54 20:28:21 27/04/11 7.3487065 sidebar.exe 192.168.200.1 192.168.200.54 TCP TCP:[Continuation to #53]Flags=…AP…, SrcPort=3128, DstPort=61204, PayloadLen=1083, Seq=1265827739 - 1265828822, Ack=2484008438, Win=4570 {TCP:28, IPv4:27}
55 20:28:21 27/04/11 7.3488696 sidebar.exe 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.1 TCP TCP:Flags=…A…, SrcPort=61204, DstPort=3128, PayloadLen=0, Seq=2484008438, Ack=1265828822, Win=16425 {TCP:28, IPv4:27}
56 20:28:21 27/04/11 7.3957556 [001EC1 A40643 [00-1E-C1-A4-06-43]] [0180C2 000000 [01-80-C2-00-00-00]] SPANTreeBPDU SPANTreeBPDU
57 20:28:23 27/04/11 9.1679399 192.168.200.54 192.168.130.90 SNMP SNMP:Version1, Community = public, Get request, RequestID = 597 {UDP:31, IPv4:30}
58 20:28:23 27/04/11 9.2173700 192.168.200.54 255.255.255.255 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51919, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:24, IPv4:4}
59 20:28:23 27/04/11 9.3143265 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51919, Length = 174 {UDP:26, IPv4:2}
60 20:28:23 27/04/11 9.3949965 [001EC1 A40643 [00-1E-C1-A4-06-43]] [0180C2 000000 [01-80-C2-00-00-00]] SPANTreeBPDU SPANTreeBPDU
61 20:28:25 27/04/11 11.2552078 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51920, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
62 20:28:25 27/04/11 11.2555665 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51920, Length = 79 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
63 20:28:25 27/04/11 11.2556880 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51920, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
64 20:28:25 27/04/11 11.2559971 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51920, Length = 16 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
65 20:28:25 27/04/11 11.3392402 FE80:0:0:0:D8CB:2FF:FEA8:14FB FF02:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 ICMPv6 ICMPv6:Router Advertisement {IPv6:1}
66 20:28:25 27/04/11 11.3971376 [001EC1 A40643 [00-1E-C1-A4-06-43]] [0180C2 000000 [01-80-C2-00-00-00]] SPANTreeBPDU SPANTreeBPDU
67 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.1305884 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51920, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
68 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.1309790 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51920, Length = 79 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
69 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.1311062 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51920, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
70 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.1313965 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51920, Length = 16 {UDP:25, IPv4:2}
71 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2248485 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51921, DstPort = 19540, Length = 518 {UDP:32, IPv4:2}
72 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2254262 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51921, Length = 19 {UDP:32, IPv4:2}
73 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2256840 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 19540, Length = 1032 {UDP:33, IPv4:2}
74 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2341398 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51921, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:32, IPv4:2}
75 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2344997 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51921, Length = 16 {UDP:32, IPv4:2}
76 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2452709 System 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 TCP TCP:Flags=…S., SrcPort=61205, DstPort=19540, PayloadLen=0, Seq=2936280916, Ack=0, Win=8192 ( Negotiating scale factor 0x2 ) = 8192 {TCP:34, IPv4:2}
77 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2455287 System 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 TCP TCP:Flags=…A..S., SrcPort=19540, DstPort=61205, PayloadLen=0, Seq=1118239, Ack=2936280917, Win=1460 ( Scale factor not supported ) = 1460 {TCP:34, IPv4:2}
78 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2540929 System 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 TCP TCP:Flags=…A…, SrcPort=61205, DstPort=19540, PayloadLen=0, Seq=2936280917, Ack=1118240, Win=64240 (scale factor 0x0) = 64240 {TCP:34, IPv4:2}
79 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2543951 System 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 TCP TCP:Flags=…A…, SrcPort=19540, DstPort=61205, PayloadLen=0, Seq=1118240, Ack=2936280917, Win=33580 (scale factor 0x0) = 33580 {TCP:34, IPv4:2}
80 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2553185 System 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 TCP TCP:Flags=…AP…, SrcPort=61205, DstPort=19540, PayloadLen=22, Seq=2936280917 - 2936280939, Ack=1118240, Win=64240 (scale factor 0x0) = 64240 {TCP:34, IPv4:2}
81 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2556150 System 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 TCP TCP:Flags=…A…, SrcPort=19540, DstPort=61205, PayloadLen=0, Seq=1118240, Ack=2936280939, Win=33580 (scale factor 0x0) = 33580 {TCP:34, IPv4:2}
82 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2575586 System 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 TCP TCP:Flags=…AP…, SrcPort=19540, DstPort=61205, PayloadLen=28, Seq=1118240 - 1118268, Ack=2936280939, Win=33580 (scale factor 0x0) = 33580 {TCP:34, IPv4:2}
83 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2576316 System 192.168.200.54 192.168.200.67 TCP TCP:Flags=…AP…, SrcPort=61205, DstPort=19540, PayloadLen=22, Seq=2936280939 - 2936280961, Ack=1118268, Win=64212 (scale factor 0x0) = 64212 {TCP:34, IPv4:2}
84 20:28:27 27/04/11 13.2579070 System 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 TCP TCP:Flags=…A…, SrcPort=19540, DstPort=61205, PayloadLen=0, Seq=1118268, Ack=2936280961, Win=33580 (scale factor 0x0) = 33580 {TCP:34, IPv4:2}

UDP packets - looking for connected to HUB devices.
TCP packets - connecting to device and using it.

Mikrotik router when, gets this packet:
22 20:28:18 27/04/11 4.2013309 192.168.200.54 255.255.255.255 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 51910, DstPort = 19540, Length = 96 {UDP:9, IPv4:4}
sends answer
23 20:28:18 27/04/11 4.2843237 192.168.200.67 192.168.200.54 UDP UDP:SrcPort = 19540, DstPort = 51910, Length = 174 {UDP:11, IPv4:2}

to the router address, instead to the sender address.

Why and what can I do to resolve this?

9

please stop mixing two separate issues in one topic. first you said to forget about that USB HUB, now you bring it up again … make separate topics please

10

Internet Explorer cannot open page with normal “Cannot open page Error”
Which config do you whant to see?
I cannot include backup file - forum says - “The extension backup is not allowed”

11

do you use proxy? what have you configured in the RouterOS device? which settings did you change at all?

12

I use he Web-proxy according to your mannual on Wiki:

enabled: yes
src-address: 192.168.130.0
port: 3128
parent-proxy: 0.0.0.0
parent-proxy-port: 0
cache-administrator: “webmaster”
max-cache-size: unlimited
cache-on-disk: yes
max-client-connections: 600
max-server-connections: 600
max-fresh-time: 3d
serialize-connections: no
always-from-cache: no
cache-hit-dscp: 4
cache-drive: micro-sd

And NAt rule:

6 ;;; Web proxy 3128
chain=dstnat action=redirect to-ports=3128 protocol=tcp
in-interface=bridge1 dst-port=80

13

I found solution.

/ ip firewall mangle add chain=forward protocol=tcp tcp-flags=syn tcp-mss=1453-65535 action=change-mss new-mss=1360  disabled=no