[idea] cAP ax

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What do you think?

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  • Instead, I would like to see…
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Well, the first IEEE 802.11ax first generation ASICs (Wave 1) are available. It´s time to tell what I would like to have when we see “Wave 2” ASICs:

  • cAP ac design
  • low power version
  • PoE In and PoE Out => I would like to daisy chain 3 cAP ax devices. For now I can daisy chain 2 cAP ac devices. Would it be possible to increase the PoE capabilities to get 3 cAP ax devices all together?
  • 1x 2.4 GHz: 2x2:2
  • 2x 1GbE ports (802.3at PoE In, 802.3af PoE Out), no 2.5GbE
  • (1x 5.0 GHz: 2x2:2) – or – (2x 5.0 GHz 2x2:2 plus keep the PoE capabilities as cAP ac, i.e. daisy chain 2 cAP ax devices)

Update: Just fooling around with 802.3bt

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The 802.11ax (Wifi6) SoC’s are not available in quantity from Qualcomm yet.. They are sampling, and shipping in low quantity but that is it.

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Well, I don´t expect MikroTik to sell 802.11ax access points in 2019. We´re talking about 202x
The only (Wave 1) SOC I can find is Broadcom´s BCM6752 https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Broadcom#ax_2:
ARM Tri-core CPU
2x2 11ax dual-band Wi-Fi
2 ports of Gigabit Ethernet
PCIe Interface

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There’s plenty of chipsets available, the problem is likely software. Since Mikrotik write their own wifi driver, it will take a long time before a stable 802.11ax driver is available. Even the 802.11ac support still isn’t up to the competition after all these years.

If you need 802.11ax there’s other options that are shipping today: https://wikidevi.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Ask&q=<q>[[CPU1+model%3A%3A~IPQ8074*]]+OR+[[CPU2+model%3A%3A~IPQ8074*]]<%2Fq>&p=format%3Dbroadtable%2Flink%3Dall%2Fheaders%3Dshow%2Fsearchlabel%3D…-20further-20results%2Fclass%3Dsortable-20wikitable-20smwtable&po=%3FEmbedded+system+type%3DType %3FFCC+ID %3FManuf %3FManuf+product+model%3DManuf.+mdl %3FCPU1+model%3DCPU1 %3FCPU1+clock+speed %3FFLA1+amount%3DFLA1 %3FFLA2+amount%3DFLA2 %3FRAM1+amount%3DRAM1 %3FWI1+chip1+model%3DWI1+chip1 %3FWI1+chip2+model%3DWI1+chip2 %3FWI1+MIMO+config%3DWI1+MIMO %3FWI2+chip1+model%3DWI2+chip1 %3FWI2+chip2+model%3DWI2+chip2 %3FWI2+MIMO+config%3DWI2+MIMO %3FSupported+802dot11+protocols%3DPHY+modes %3FOUI %3FOUI+(ethernet)%3DOUI+(Eth) %3FEstimated+year+of+release%3DEst.+year &order=ASC&limit=500&eq=no

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What is the current market penetration for clients with 802.11ax? Example of phones/laptops?

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i expect 802.11ax to be a premium technology for a couple of years or until there is a ax second wave of chipsets

and i am not talking only about ap, talking about client devices too

im pretty sure mikrotik is fully aware of ax tech but the decisions taken to bring a product to the market involve not only technical reasons but commercial and strategic ones

from our perspective as customers and / or users of the products it seems simpler than it really is

there is a lot of hype and marketing around ax that’s why it will be a recurring theme

but will take time to see an ax AP under 100 USD for example

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good point

is practically 0 (posted today, may of 2019)

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Samsung Galaxy S10?

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I think today there are no difference in everyday use between 802.11ac and ac speed, latency & radius for smartphone usage. What task do you have for your s10 for about 1Gbps?

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ax is not only about higher peak thruput. It will give you improved coverage and less interference in crowded environments. And there is more, e.g. lower latency.

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http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/mikrotik-cap-ax-capgi-5haxd2haxd-r2/163485/1