IPv6 [yes/no] ????

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Do we need IPv6

  • Yes
  • No
  • I do not know
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I do now what IPv6, but my question is: Do I need it? Should I care about?

My ISP do offer it, but should I use it.
What is the real benefit of it? As a home user?

We are running out of IPv4. This have I heard the last 15+ year, but still IPv4 is the backbone of internet.
Do IPv6 give me some extras? Faster internet? Reach site that I can not reach by IPv4.

To answer on the latest question, only thing I did find useful, maybe bitTorrent..

But since configuration becomes more complex and not easy to understand, I did remove IPv6.

At work we do use some IPv6 for Microsoft Direct Access and some other stuff.

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Voted yes.

We’re moving towards that IPv4 wall whatever way you look at it.
Yes, the wall has been moved a bit by things like CGNAT but it will be hit.

Like you I don’t know enough of it yet. But we will have to learn sooner or later :laughing:
(besides, a day without learning something new is a wasted day)

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Pro:
Even for home user sometimes it’s good to have more than one public address.
No need for NAT which in theory means lower load on edge router … if router performance is bottleneck, this means higher throughput.
Everybody and their dog has it, so should you.

Con:
If the real bottleneck is the last mile, then IPv6 slightly reduces application throughput as IPv6 overhead is slightly bigger than IPv4.
No fast-track for IPv6 (yet).
Slightly more complex firewall configuration.
Some ISPs just don’t get it and in such cases IPv6 is unusable.

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That I do not see as a problem. You can setup 60000+ nat port. You can use an revese proxy and have as many Web server as you like.
To need to have more than 60000 port for outgoing nat, you have to be a larger company.

Problem is that there are noting that forces us to change.

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I understand what you’re trying to say but isn’t it better to be ready for the change (prepared) instead of being forced to do so (in a hurry, with all possible consequences) ?

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I didn’t write “even home user must have more than one public address” … we’ve survived with one per household by now and mostly we’d survive in the future. Besides, not everything revolves around https, there are other protocols that don’t know about SNI, you know :wink:

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For how many years ?
When RouterOS 9 is released :wink:

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Ipv6 is THE one
Three reasons why IPv6 is worth the effort
1… End-to-end connectivity
2… Reduced network complexity
3… Support and content have become common place

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I know that NAT is not a firewall, but it help to protect local network. Will be interesting to see all open routers that expose all internal devices on the net.

2… Reduced network complexity

Not sure about that. Not easy to setup a firewall and very hard to see what each IPv6 device is. Maybe a firewall based on name would help.
Have you tried to look at logs etc in a large company and understand what is going on in an Ipv6 environment?

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It assumes that you have at least one public IP address, but it’s already a luxury that not everyone can have. Sometimes it’s not available at all, sometimes it “only” costs extra. Monthly +25% is quite common here, but I’ve seen worse. And for what? IPv6 has plenty of free addresses for everyone, more than anyone could ever need. It exists for over quarter of century, it’s supported by every client OS for fifteen years, server software wasn’t usually behind either, it’s supposedly the new normal for almost ten years, and somehow I still see more people who don’t have it than those who do. If only half of the effort spent on “how to live with IPv4” was spent on IPv6 instead…

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What is the point of this topic?
Trying to justify “why” we need IPv6 for home? Just like some users try to justify “why” we need 10Gbps at home?
Some need it, some don’t, some don’t even care as long as netflix/whatever streams low bitrate movies to their 8k TV.

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Hi Jotne,

Good subject to me. I voted No :blush:

One might definitely need IPV6. But IPV6 is only a piece of the puzzle, a piece of technology.
My thinking is it allows to change the way your home network, ultimately your digital life is handled.
To me, it means at the end to all of this, you won’t own your digital life anymore, you are just a user allowed to have
a digital life by some companies/the cloud.

As you see this is now already no more about IPV6 :wink:

I am 100% against any of my devices get data to/from the cloud and return it to me via the cloud if not needed.
What good is an super-duper end-to-end encrypted connection to a server in a country owned by a regime?
(you could even say any commercial company etc.)

I want things to run, as much local as possible, with or without internet connection!
I had once a WD Cloud Home NAS not knowing what I bought. The dammed thing would not even work if it could not ping
WD servers every minute!!! You could NOT access over LAN to the device!
What usage is a NAS to me in case of internet being down, WD servers corrupted etc.?
I sold the thing immediately and use a Synology device now.

I actually do test my network and devices sometimes switching off internet access, to see if I can print (harder and harder catually),
read NAS, see the camera, control the IOT automation devices with the LAN app.
If you can not use them in that case, it means I don’t “own” these device.

I know this view is rudimentary, maybe IPV6 has nothing to do with above (which is partially true) and everything is going the cloud way.
But as long as I can resist, I will do.
And to me, IPV6 is part of the things I don’t need for now, and will use IPv4 only at home.
That way maybe IPV4 for home usage might stay longer before suppliers won’t support it anymore…

IPV4 in local network, for ever !
:blush:

PS: I might miss super cool IPV6 features I am not aware of, but well, till now I don’t miss anything.
PSS: All this is for a home/private network point of view.

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How is IPv6 related to the cloud crap you wrote?