IS-IS

[alex_rhys-hurn]

Also see:

 ip/route/print where 
.dead       bgp               comment      distance        gateway          is-is             pref-src          static                  vrf-interface   
.id         bgp-mpls-vpn      connect      dst-address     hw-offloaded     local-address     rip               suppress-hw-offload     
.nextid     blackhole         dhcp         dynamic         immediate-gw     modem             routing-table     target-scope            
active      check-gateway     disabled     ecmp            inactive         ospf              scope             vpn

is-is is available as an option. and the command ip route print where is-is does run but obviously returns nothing.

FYI.

[DarkNate]

If I have to wait to 7.14, 7.16 for a IPv4 is-is implementation.

is-is is not TCP/IP, it’s CLNP. Why would it require IPv4 or IPv6 addressing to function?

[alex_rhys-hurn]

This page was updated along with 7.12 release:

[netravnen]

is-is is not TCP/IP, it’s CLNP.

I know.

Why would it require IPv4 or IPv6 addressing to function?

feeling confused Unable to comprehend how to respond

[spippan]

Why would it require IPv4 or IPv6 addressing to function?

feeling confused Unable to comprehend how to respond
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guess it was meant as IS-IS does not need an ipv4/6 connection just to function (because of CLNP)

[mada3k]

It’s correct that IS-IS uses it’s own protocol for adjacencies, but you need either IPv4 or IPv6 support to make something useful of it.

OSPF is built around/top of IP
IS-IS has support is extensible and has support for IP

[millenium7]

This page was updated along with 7.12 release:

I see no mention of it in the patch notes and no routing is-is menu or CLI commands
There is however

/routing fantasy

MikroTik playing a cruel joke perhaps?

[Amm0]

/routing fantasy

MikroTik playing a cruel joke perhaps?

It a feature to test BGP (or presumable IS-IS, eventually)
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=74678282

Re ISIS, the lack of release note for it and no CLI suggests the status page is what maybe the joke (or to be fair, overly optimistic).

[mrz]

Unfortunately for some and fortunately for others it is not a joke. IS-IS is in development but disabled for wider public in v7.12. Stay tuned, its coming soon.

[millenium7]

All I can say is FANTASTIC!!! I won’t ask for any concrete information but I do hope its at least IPv4 functionally capable for production use within a years time. OSPF is, always has been and always will be an utterly shit protocol for ISP and especially WISP environments. It’s just completely the wrong protocol for it and does not allow growth and implementation that matches reality. So the sooner I can dump it in favor of IS-IS for backhaul the better

[nz_monkey]

All I can say is FANTASTIC!!! I won’t ask for any concrete information but I do hope its at least IPv4 functionally capable for production use within a years time. OSPF is, always has been and always will be an utterly shit protocol for ISP and especially WISP environments. It’s just completely the wrong protocol for it and does not allow growth and implementation that matches reality. So the sooner I can dump it in favor of IS-IS for backhaul the better

100%

IS-IS and Segment Routing is a match made in heaven for ISP networks.

[netravnen]

Nice. Just noticed the inclusion of IS-IS in the 7.13beta1. Time for testing it out.

[syadnom]

yep, it’s in 7.13b1. I’ve got it up in the lab. pretty straight forward, although I’m having some issue with it forgetting disabled or removed routes. but it does bring routes up so that’s step 1! Also, no BFD toggle, BFD is essential for ISIS.

[spippan]

yep, it’s in 7.13b1. I’ve got it up in the lab. pretty straight forward, although I’m having some issue with it forgetting disabled or removed routes. but it does bring routes up so that’s step 1! Also, no BFD toggle, BFD is essential for ISIS.

quick guess … they are working on it right now.

[anav]

Looking way back at the comparison table, Virtual Links Supported ( ospf yes / is-is NO ). Isnt that a plus for OSPF?

[syadnom]

yep, it’s in 7.13b1. I’ve got it up in the lab. pretty straight forward, although I’m having some issue with it forgetting disabled or removed routes. but it does bring routes up so that’s step 1! Also, no BFD toggle, BFD is essential for ISIS.

quick guess … they are working on it right now.

oh yeah, no criticism here, I’m happy to have rought it up in the lab so easily.

[syadnom]

Looking way back at the comparison table, Virtual Links Supported ( ospf yes / is-is NO ). Isnt that a plus for OSPF?

depends. and ‘virtual links’ is a big ambiguous. IS-IS requires an ethernet-like layer2 interface, it wont run over IPIP or Wireguard for example, but it will certainly work over anything that looks like layer2, EOIP tunnels, VPLS, WDS, etc.

It’s a trade off. Having to build an IP layer to run your dynamic routing for OSPF or BGP for example really makes you a ‘hybrid’ network, ie you have static IP configurations that enable the dynamic routing. IS-IS removes that, you have some interface templates but otherwise you’re just interface routing. Configuration, once well planned, is very very simple.

[netravnen]

Looking way back at the comparison table, Virtual Links Supported ( ospf yes / is-is NO ). Isnt that a plus for OSPF?

depends. and ‘virtual links’ is a big ambiguous. IS-IS requires an ethernet-like layer2 interface, it wont run over IPIP or Wireguard for example, but it will certainly work over anything that looks like layer2, EOIP tunnels, VPLS, WDS, etc.

I am looking forward to try IS-IS over primarily Zerotier tunnels (Layer 2). Either than, or VXLAN tunnels (over Layer 3 tunnels). Not to keen on maintaining OpenVPN tap tunnels.

[pe1chl]

When you are just looking for a routing protocol that can do routing in a MikroTik environment, e.g. for VPN, you can just as well use eBGP.
It works quite well and is easy to configure (although in v7 not as easy as in v6). Once you get the hang of it, you get it working in 5 minutes.

[syadnom]

When you are just looking for a routing protocol that can do routing in a MikroTik environment, e.g. for VPN, you can just as well use eBGP.
It works quite well and is easy to configure (although in v7 not as easy as in v6). Once you get the hang of it, you get it working in 5 minutes.

yes, and we do this, prefer it to OSPF (way faster…)

but, it’s still static subnets and ptp configurations etc.

IS-IS is basically setting up the instance and interface templates and it will just work and you can change costs etc as needed to direct traffic but it just works. That’s one thing that’s very very attractive about it, no messing up subnets, tracking /29s, no MTU mismatches, unlike OSPF it does differential updates so topology changes to rock the boat.